Dick Grob
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newspaper. Has anyone seen this? Im curious as to what some of you think about
all this. I must say I was shocked and disapointed to read this because I had
met Dick Grob at a convention in Florida and enjoyed talking to him and
listening to his stories. After reading this article I now don't believe a
thing he has to say. Any opinions?
The article was very long so I snipped a lot of the article to post here.
Article below:
By MICHAEL D. SALLAH
BLADE NATIONAL AFFAIRS WRITER
<snipped article on Dick Grob>
He was the son of an army officer, he spent most of his life in Middle
America: Born in Sandusky, he lived for three years in Germany before his
parents moved to Toledo in 1949.
While the future king was being raised in Memphis, the future bodyguard was
growing up in the shadows of Willys Park, watching people test drive the Jeeps
rolling off the assembly line.
Tragedy struck two days after his 12th birthday: His father, Richard, was
killed by mortar fire in Korea. He woul [bad text] ed into the Air Force
Academy as the son of a deceased war veteran. But he lasted nearly eight months
before dropping out, records show - a tenure that would later give ammunition
to his critics.
He returned to Toledo and eventually joined the police force in 1962 -
beginning a career in law enforcement that spanned two decades. He began by
driving a patrol car, and within two years he earned a commendation after he
and a partner arrested three unruly teens at a Highland Park dance without
provoking a riot of 300 youths.
He would use those same crowd control skills years later in much larger venues
guarding the world’s most famous singer.
Longing for a warmer climate, Mr. Grob - married, with two young daughters -
joined the Palm Springs police department in 1965.
Two years later he drew a chance assignment: keeping crowds away from a private
home where Elvis and his wife, Priscilla, were honeymooning.
While sitting in a patrol car in front of the house on a sweltering May
afternoon, the 28-year-old policeman was surprised by a visitor. "This guy
walks up and he has a glass of lemonade in his hand, and he says, ‘Officer, I
bet you’re thirsty. Mind if I sit with you?’ It was Elvis.’’
They sat for an hour, talking about police work - a fascination with the then
32-year-old entertainer until his death.
Later, Mr. Grob invited Elvis to the police range for target practice, and
Elvis soon offered him a job, says the former policeman. He accepted - at
first, part-time.
The job was Mr. Grob’s ticket to an exclusive entourage for the rock and roll
king. But he joined the team at the time that Elvis was changing from the
wholesome southern boy who sweetly sang "Love Me Tender" to a man who was
losing an insidious battle to drugs.
By 1970, a growing addiction to sedatives and other medications and a
tumultuous marriage were dominating Elvis’ life, according to biographers.
And no one, not even his new bodyguard, could stop him.
While on tour, Elvis was shadowed by his physician, George Nichopolous, who
dispensed thousands of pills a year to his patient - including painkillers like
Dilaudid and Demerol.
Because of concerns over Elvis’ drug use, Mr. Grob says he joined others in
giving Elvis placebos - sugar or other harmless pills.
"I believe more than anything else, he was mentally addicted to certain
things," Mr. Grob says, adding he doesn’t like to talk of Elvis’ drug
intake. "I still can’t say he abused drugs."
It’s one of the many differences between Mr. Grob and other members of
Elvis’ inner circle, including Elvis’ close cousin Billy Smith, who long
have said that by this time Elvis was hopelessly hooked on prescription drugs.
His cousin said in the 1995 book Revelations from the Memphis Mafia that in
Elvis’ waning years, he was becoming "a Howard Hughes" figure - refusing to
bathe, and staying in his room for days. "He’d be so depressed, he’d just
go through hell," noted his cousin.
Mr. Grob says much of the descriptions of his old friend were "exaggerated,"
preferring instead to tell stories about the fun-loving Elvis who hammed for
the cameras at Mr. Grob’s wedding to his second wife in 1970.
Still, at times, the security had to keep a close watch on the singer when he
would fire bullets into furniture and television sets.
While Elvis was grossing $130,000 a concert, his advance team was forced to
cancel at least seven appearances in Las Vegas and Lake Tahoe after 1973 -
three for drug-related problems.
"By 1976, he really started to show the affects of drugs," says Jerry Osborne,
the Seattle author who wrote the book The Complete Elvis. "His weight gains,
cancelled shows, in and out of the hospital" were obvious to critics.
After sitting through a performance in Las Vegas in December, 1976, former
Memphis newspaper columnist Bill Burk wondered "why the king of rock ’n’
roll would subject himself to possible ridicule by going onstage so ill
prepared."
"One walks away wondering how much longer it can be before the end comes."
Richard Grob, in this 1997 photo, shows off his book "The Elvis Conspiracy" and
the unreleased record that he says Elvis signed over to him but which RCA said
is not in Presley's voice.
Answers
A grieving Vernon Presley wanted answers.
How did his son die at the age of 42? It didn’t seem possible, he told cousin
Billy Smith and others. Fearing Elvis may have been the victim of foul play, he
asked Mr. Grob to look into his son’s death.
"Vernon was grasping at straws," Mr. Grob says. "He was a father who lost his
son unexpectedly."
But what the former policeman discovered in his investigation was different
from what others had documented later in books.
His focus was on the girlfriend, Ginger Alden, in a chilling interpretation of
events that are still debated today.
Mr. Grob claims that based on his initial interviews, Miss Alden awoke at 1:30
p.m., after hearing a thump. He theorizes that she rose from bed and found
Elvis in the bathroom, but didn’t call her help.
Instead she made two phone calls.
This was verified, he says, from the maids who heard a thump and saw the lights
blink downstairs on the phone bank at 1:30 p.m., showing a call from Elvis’
room. "It made absolutely no sense, because everyone was supposed to be
sleeping," he says.
Mr. Grob claims that Miss Alden called her mother and then phoned the National
Enquirer to tell the paper to stay tuned: Something big was going down at
Graceland.
Finally, at least 50 minutes after she found her lover’s body, she called for
help.
Ten minutes later, after the ambulance arrived and was driving out the gates -
with Elvis inside - Mr. Grob says Miss Alden picked up the phone to call the
tabloid again: Elvis is dead.
Mr. Grob, who was not at Graceland, noted from his interviews that it appeared
that Ginger was completely dressed by the time the alarm was sounded and
"showed no emotion." He also noted in his book, The Elvis Conspiracy?, that
"there were no tear marks on Ginger’s face observed by anyone."
The bodyguard claims in his investigation that Ginger Alden and her mother
secretly had been negotiating a deal with the National Enquirer at the time of
the death - accusations the family has denied.
When he released his book six years ago, many fans were enraged at Miss Alden,
writing letters to fan clubs and other publications.
Ginger Alden, married and living on Long Island, N.Y., says the accusations are
not true.
"I want to say that there was never - ever - any phone call made by me to
anyone dealing with any type of publication on the day that I found Elvis’
body," she said in a prepared statement to The Blade. "I loved Elvis with all
my heart."
She referred to Mr. Grob’s conclusions as "very deplorable," and "maliciously
fabricated."
She says she agreed to a talk to the National Enquirer for $35,000 about Elvis,
but it was after his death, not before.
Mr. Grob says he drew his conclusions after interviewing Jim Kirk, a former
freelance reporter for the National Enquirer, who was living in Memphis and who
received the first call from Graceland about 1:30 p.m.
In a transcribed interview with Mr. Kirk - included in Mr. Grob’s book - Mr.
Kirk admitted the person who called him was a woman who sounded like Ginger
Alden, but she did not identify herself.
He said he had met her previously when she was a reigning Miss Mid South and
had seen her on other occasions in Memphis.
Mr. Kirk, now an engineer and residing in Maryland, did not respond to repeated
requests for an interview.
Mr. Grob says his conclusions were supported by a girlfriend of another
National Enquirer reporter, who confided to her about Ginger Alden’s alleged
calls. But he says she spoke on the condition of anonymity.
In his book, the former bodyguard concludes it was "possible if not probable"
that Elvis could have lived if someone had responded to him more quickly. He
says carpet fibers were found in Elvis’ nose, indicating he may have been
still breathing after he hit the floor.
Still, that cannot be corroborated.
Despite a court challenge, Elvis’ family sealed the 44-page autopsy report in
which his estimated time of death is reported.
Conflicting stories abound about other issues.
Ginger Alden and her family have always maintained that Elvis was going to
announce his engagement to Miss Alden at the end of the 10-city tour. Indeed,
he even gave her an 11-carat diamond that was removed from his ring.
But Mr. Grob and others, including Elvis’ longtime friend Charlie Hodge, say
the opposite: He was getting ready to break up with her.
As far as the phone calls from Graceland, a former Tennessee journalist who
covered the singer’s death says that someone called from Graceland that
morning - tipping off the National Enquirer - but it was a male’s voice.
"I’ve researched this, and I talked to the National Enquirer people many
times," said the former reporter, who asked not to be named, "and people have
always told me it was a male, not a female."
Mr. Grob says he believes his sources of information were credible, and that
the facts can be "backed up, certainly investigated and corroborated."
Reputation
Before Mr. Grob’s book was published in 1996, he was chatting with fans a
block from Graceland when an elderly woman rushed to him and wagged her finger.
It was Ginger Alden’s mother, and she wasted no time criticizing the former
policeman about comments he was making to fan clubs about his investigation.
"It just made me so mad," recalls Jo Alden, now in her 80s. "This is a girl who
didn’t do anything to hurt Elvis. She loved him."
By the time the 665-page The Elvis Conspiracy? was released, it immediately
began stirring debate among the fans - many who were incensed by the
allegations of Ginger turning a cold shoulder to her lover.
But the book has inaccuracies that have placed Mr. Grob on the defensive. In
his own biography, he compares himself to his father by saying: "I received
only one Silver Star to his four and only one Purple Heart to his four as an
example." But according to his own military records, he was never in combat,
nor did he serve in a war for which those medals are awarded.
Records show he left the Air Force Academy in 1959 before his first year and
joined the reserves until his discharge as an airman second class in 1964. He
wrote in the jacket of his book he had been an officer.
Mr. Grob says he’s aware of "misconceptions" by what was written but declined
to comment. "I’m not going to dignify this with a response," he says. "I
dealt with this years ago."
The questions didn’t stop there.
In 1995 he tried to sell what he says was a rare, unreleased recording that
Elvis gave him at Graceland. The recording was even signed "To Dick." A Las
Vegas auction set the minimum bid at $50,000 for the song, titled "Just Let Me
Make Believe."
But RCA didn’t believe it.
Despite a signature purporting to belong to the singer, RCA - the co-owners of
Elvis’ other recordings - warned that the voice in the song did not belong to
the famous singer. And the song never sold at the auction.
Mr. Grob did make money on the song in 1996, but that has been mired in
controversy. German businessman Max Schaeffers says he bought the rights to the
tune from Mr. Grob for $15,000. But Mr. Grob counters that the businessman
bought only temporary rights that have expired.
At that same auction, Mr. Grob offered an illustration of Elvis - again signed
"To Dick" from Elvis. But before the bidding started, someone pointed out the
print was created after 1980, years after Elvis died.
One of Elvis’ closest friends, Joe Esposito, says he was at the auction, and
then warned the operators the signature was a fake. "It wasn’t the real deal,
and I told them so," he says.
Mr. Grob says he was duped, because he purchased the piece from a man in
California who swore the item was signed by Elvis. "I got my money back," he
claims. He says it’s unfair that he’s forced to defend himself.
Now living comfortably in Las Vegas with his fourth wife, he says much of the
controversy swirling around him is coming from supporters of Ginger Alden.
"They have attacked me," says the father of three grown children. "I get
e-mails from people with no names. My wife gets e-mails about me. ...I
haven’t begun to deal with these people yet."
He left Graceland in 1979 and worked as a sales consultant with Honeywell,
working in California and Nevada, as well as traveling on the Elvis speaking
circuit.
Now semiretired, Mr. Grob says he has remained true to the memory of Elvis.
Supporters say Mr. Grob is one of the few members of Elvis’ inner circle who
has never revealed the personal details of his former employer.
"Others made money doing that. Dick never did," says Elvis disc jockey Steve
Christopher.
But Mr. Grob’s biggest claims from his investigation 25 years ago remain
unproven.
To Charlie Hodge, one of Elvis’ closest friends, no one will ever know
whether Mr. Grob’s theories are true. "Only two people will ever know that,"
he says. "Ginger and God."
H
had changed his mind about marrying Ginger. He said that there was no way he
was marrying into that family. That marriage wouldn't have lasted anyways.
He didn't love her. He was just trying to recapture his youth. In "The
Definitive Elvis", George Klein was really the only one that seems to have
liked her. The rest say she was nice enough but...
.H.
ForElvisMemory wrote in message
<20020822004657...@mb-cu.aol.com>...
GoodLuckCharm77
ended his book with the "cancer" crap about Elvis and later under deposition,
had to admit he just put it in there because it "read better".
~GLC~
Bob1910533
anyone read his book The Elvis Conspiracy? He tells a lot of things in his book
about himself that is not true. If this news artical is accurate the writer has
verified these things with people that new Grob.
Moon7331
Marty
TCBforEAP
Enter "Grob" in the search box. You have to wade through the rehash of his book
of fairytales to get to the meat.
Moon7331
I read it and the guy did a wimpy whitewash compared to what he said he was
going to do.
he let Grob off the hook big time.
Marty
Bill Burk
compared to what he said he was going to do. >>
Martin is being ultra-nice here. After hearing the scorching promises for a
month from this "investigative" reporter, Sallah, I have called him a
"pussy" and even then I am giving him more respect than I think he's worth.
This guy was really going to unload the cannons!!! (he said) ... and a wide
range of "knowing" people gave him documentary evidence to back up what they
were telling him . . . and instead of cannons, he didn't even produce BBs.
A real disgrace to the word "journalist" and he knows there are bridges he
can never again come back across.
007
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Bill E. Burk
Publisher, Elvis World Magazine
Jumpsuit Boy
Craig
Dick Grob
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venues guarding the world’s most famous singer.
Longing for a warmer climate, Mr. Grob - married, with two young
daughters - joined the Palm Springs police department in 1965.
Two years later he drew a chance assignment: keeping crowds away from a
private home where Elvis and his wife, Priscilla, were honeymooning.
While sitting in a patrol car in front of the house on a sweltering May
afternoon, the 28-year-old policeman was surprised by a visitor. "This
guy walks up and he has a glass of lemonade in his hand, and he says,
‘Officer, I bet you’re thirsty. Mind if I sit with
you?’ It was Elvis.’’
They sat for an hour, talking about police work - a fascination with the
then 32-year-old entertainer until his death.
Later, Mr. Grob invited Elvis to the police range for target practice,
and Elvis soon offered him a job, says the former policeman. He accepted
- at first, part-time.
The job was Mr. Grob’s ticket to an exclusive entourage for the
rock and roll king. But he joined the team at the time that Elvis was
changing from the wholesome southern boy who sweetly sang "Love Me
Tender" to a man who was losing an insidious battle to drugs.
By 1970, a growing addiction to sedatives and other medications and a
tumultuous marriage were dominating Elvis’ life, according to
biographers. And no one, not even his new bodyguard, could stop him.
While on tour, Elvis was shadowed by his physician, George Nichopolous,
who dispensed thousands of pills a year to his patient - including
painkillers like Dilaudid and Demerol.
Because of concerns over Elvis’ drug use, Mr. Grob says he
joined others in giving Elvis placebos - sugar or other harmless pills.
"I believe more than anything else, he was mentally addicted to certain
things," Mr. Grob says, adding he doesn’t like to talk of
Elvis’ drug intake. "I still can’t say he abused drugs."
It’s one of the many differences between Mr. Grob and other
members of Elvis’ inner circle, including Elvis’ close
cousin Billy Smith, who long have said that by this time Elvis was
hopelessly hooked on prescription drugs.
His cousin said in the 1995 book Revelations from the Memphis Mafia that
in Elvis’ waning years, he was becoming "a Howard Hughes" figure
- refusing to bathe, and staying in his room for days. "He’d be
so depressed, he’d just go through hell," noted his cousin.
Mr. Grob says much of the descriptions of his old friend were
"exaggerated," preferring instead to tell stories about the fun-loving
Elvis who hammed for the cameras at Mr. Grob’s wedding to his
second wife in 1970.
Still, at times, the security had to keep a close watch on the singer
when he would fire bullets into furniture and television sets.
While Elvis was grossing $130,000 a concert, his advance team was forced
to cancel at least seven appearances in Las Vegas and Lake Tahoe after
1973 - three for drug-related problems.
"By 1976, he really started to show the affects of drugs," says Jerry
Osborne, the Seattle author who wrote the book The Complete Elvis. "His
weight gains, cancelled shows, in and out of the hospital" were obvious
to critics.
After sitting through a performance in Las Vegas in December, 1976,
former Memphis newspaper columnist Bill Burk wondered "why the king of
rock ’n’ roll would subject himself to possible ridicule
by going onstage so ill prepared."
"One walks away wondering how much longer it can be before the end
comes."
Richard Grob, in this 1997 photo, shows off his book "The Elvis
Conspiracy" and the unreleased record that he says Elvis signed over to
him but which RCA said is not in Presley's voice.
Answers
A grieving Vernon Presley wanted answers.
How did his son die at the age of 42? It didn’t seem possible,
he told cousin Billy Smith and others. Fearing Elvis may have been the
victim of foul play, he asked Mr. Grob to look into his son’s
death.
"Vernon was grasping at straws," Mr. Grob says. "He was a father who
lost his son unexpectedly."
But what the former policeman discovered in his investigation was
different from what others had documented later in books.
His focus was on the girlfriend, Ginger Alden, in a chilling
interpretation of events that are still debated today.
Mr. Grob claims that based on his initial interviews, Miss Alden awoke
at 1:30 p.m., after hearing a thump. He theorizes that she rose from bed
and found Elvis in the bathroom, but didn’t call her help.
Instead she made two phone calls.
This was verified, he says, from the maids who heard a thump and saw the
lights blink downstairs on the phone bank at 1:30 p.m., showing a call
from Elvis’ room. "It made absolutely no sense, because everyone
was supposed to be sleeping," he says.
Mr. Grob claims that Miss Alden called her mother and then phoned the
National Enquirer to tell the paper to stay tuned: Something big was
going down at Graceland.
Finally, at least 50 minutes after she found her lover’s body,
she called for help.
Ten minutes later, after the ambulance arrived and was driving out the
gates - with Elvis inside - Mr. Grob says Miss Alden picked up the phone
to call the tabloid again: Elvis is dead.
Mr. Grob, who was not at Graceland, noted from his interviews that it
appeared that Ginger was completely dressed by the time the alarm was
sounded and "showed no emotion." He also noted in his book, The Elvis
Conspiracy?, that "there were no tear marks on Ginger’s face
observed by anyone."
The bodyguard claims in his investigation that Ginger Alden and her
mother secretly had been negotiating a deal with the National Enquirer
at the time of the death - accusations the family has denied.
When he released his book six years ago, many fans were enraged at Miss
Alden, writing letters to fan clubs and other publications.
Ginger Alden, married and living on Long Island, N.Y., says the
accusations are not true.
"I want to say that there was never - ever - any phone call made by me
to anyone dealing with any type of publication on the day that I found
Elvis’ body," she said in a prepared statement to The Blade. "I
loved Elvis with all my heart."
She referred to Mr. Grob’s conclusions as "very deplorable," and
"maliciously fabricated."
She says she agreed to a talk to the National Enquirer for $35,000 about
Elvis, but it was after his death, not before.
Mr. Grob says he drew his conclusions after interviewing Jim Kirk, a
former freelance reporter for the National Enquirer, who was living in
Memphis and who received the first call from Graceland about 1:30 p.m.
In a transcribed interview with Mr. Kirk - included in Mr.
Grob’s book - Mr. Kirk admitted the person who called him was a
woman who sounded like Ginger Alden, but she did not identify herself.
He said he had met her previously when she was a reigning Miss Mid South
and had seen her on other occasions in Memphis.
Mr. Kirk, now an engineer and residing in Maryland, did not respond to
repeated requests for an interview.
Mr. Grob says his conclusions were supported by a girlfriend of another
National Enquirer reporter, who confided to her about Ginger
Alden’s alleged calls. But he says she spoke on the condition of
anonymity.
In his book, the former bodyguard concludes it was "possible if not
probable" that Elvis could have lived if someone had responded to him
more quickly. He says carpet fibers were found in Elvis’ nose,
indicating he may have been still breathing after he hit the floor.
Still, that cannot be corroborated.
Despite a court challenge, Elvis’ family sealed the 44-page
autopsy report in which his estimated time of death is reported.
Conflicting stories abound about other issues.
Ginger Alden and her family have always maintained that Elvis was going
to announce his engagement to Miss Alden at the end of the 10-city tour.
Indeed, he even gave her an 11-carat diamond that was removed from his
ring.
But Mr. Grob and others, including Elvis’ longtime friend
Charlie Hodge, say the opposite: He was getting ready to break up with
her.
As far as the phone calls from Graceland, a former Tennessee journalist
who covered the singer’s death says that someone called from
Graceland that morning - tipping off the National Enquirer - but it was
a male’s voice.
"I’ve researched this, and I talked to the National Enquirer
people many times," said the former reporter, who asked not to be named,
"and people have always told me it was a male, not a female."
Mr. Grob says he believes his sources of information were credible, and
that the facts can be "backed up, certainly investigated and
corroborated."
Reputation
Before Mr. Grob’s book was published in 1996, he was chatting
with fans a block from Graceland when an elderly woman rushed to him and
wagged her finger. It was Ginger Alden’s mother, and she wasted
no time criticizing the former policeman about comments he was making to
fan clubs about his investigation.
"It just made me so mad," recalls Jo Alden, now in her 80s. "This is a
girl who didn’t do anything to hurt Elvis. She loved him."
By the time the 665-page The Elvis Conspiracy? was released, it
immediately began stirring debate among the fans - many who were
incensed by the allegations of Ginger turning a cold shoulder to her
lover.
But the book has inaccuracies that have placed Mr. Grob on the
defensive. In his own biography, he compares himself to his father by
saying: "I received only one Silver Star to his four and only one Purple
Heart to his four as an example." But according to his own military
records, he was never in combat, nor did he serve in a war for which
those medals are awarded.
Records show he left the Air Force Academy in 1959 before his first year
and joined the reserves until his discharge as an airman second class in
1964. He wrote in the jacket of his book he had been an officer.
Mr. Grob says he’s aware of "misconceptions" by what was written
but declined to comment. "I’m not going to dignify this with a
response," he says. "I dealt with this years ago."
The questions didn’t stop there.
In 1995 he tried to sell what he says was a rare, unreleased recording
that Elvis gave him at Graceland. The recording was even signed "To
Dick." A Las Vegas auction set the minimum bid at $50,000 for the song,
titled "Just Let Me Make Believe."
But RCA didn’t believe it.
Despite a signature purporting to belong to the singer, RCA - the
co-owners of Elvis’ other recordings - warned that the voice in
the song did not belong to the famous singer. And the song never sold at
the auction.
Mr. Grob did make money on the song in 1996, but that has been mired in
controversy. German businessman Max Schaeffers says he bought the rights
to the tune from Mr. Grob for $15,000. But Mr. Grob counters that the
businessman bought only temporary rights that have expired.
At that same auction, Mr. Grob offered an illustration of Elvis - again
signed "To Dick" from Elvis. But before the bidding started, someone
pointed out the print was created after 1980, years after Elvis died.
One of Elvis’ closest friends, Joe Esposito, says he was at the
auction, and then warned the operators the signature was a fake. "It
wasn’t the real deal, and I told them so," he says.
Mr. Grob says he was duped, because he purchased the piece from a man in
California who swore the item was signed by Elvis. "I got my money
back," he claims. He says it’s unfair that he’s forced
to defend himself.
Now living comfortably in Las Vegas with his fourth wife, he says much
of the controversy swirling around him is coming from supporters of
Ginger Alden.
"They have attacked me," says the father of three grown children. "I get
e-mails from people with no names. My wife gets e-mails about me. ...I
haven’t begun to deal with these people yet."
He left Graceland in 1979 and worked as a sales consultant with
Honeywell, working in California and Nevada, as well as traveling on the
Elvis speaking circuit.
Now semiretired, Mr. Grob says he has remained true to the memory of
Elvis.
Supporters say Mr. Grob is one of the few members of Elvis’
inner circle who has never revealed the personal details of his former
employer.
"Others made money doing that. Dick never did," says Elvis disc jockey
Steve Christopher.
But Mr. Grob’s biggest claims from his investigation 25 years
ago remain unproven.
To Charlie Hodge, one of Elvis’ closest friends, no one will
ever know whether Mr. Grob’s theories are true. "Only two people
Bob1910533
and gave him some facts that would knock your socks off but he did not use
them. I know he did talk to Grob and knowing Grob he probably threatened a law
suit if he used some of the info I gave him. It's time the few Elvis Fans that
have him come to their events know the truth about this -----d.
Bob
CLCrandall963
<< Martin is being ultra-nice here. After hearing the scorching promises for a
month from this "investigative" reporter, Sallah, I have called him a "pussy"
and even then I am giving him more respect than I think he's worth.
This guy was really going to unload the cannons!!! (he said) ... and a wide
range of "knowing" people gave him documentary evidence to back up what they
were telling him . . . and instead of cannons, he didn't even produce BBs.
A real disgrace to the word "journalist" and he knows there are bridges he can
never again come back across.
007>>
This guy has made me totally cynical about journalists. The elephant labored -
he had the goods! - and produced a mouse. A disgrace to the profession indeed.
He called saying The Blade had the story for the 20th anniversary; that Grob's
book was in the Toledo Public Library and the newspaper started getting calls
from police officers - how extraordinary is that? - complaining they knew
Grob's background, that he was a fraud; that he'd washed out of the Air Force
Academy before joining the Toledo police force. The paper decided to hold the
story for the 25th anniversary.
The phony military history turned out to be just the tip of the iceberg. We
were shocked at the amount of information the investigation developed, most of
it from first-hand sources. I had no idea that he'd stolen/purloined over 100
negatives from a well-known fan photographer who'd been his loyal friend for
over 25 years and sold them as his own. I would put nothing, absolutely
nothing, past Grob. If any of you have bought any memorabilia from or certified
by him, congratulations - you have been stiffed.
This is not the time or place for a complete article, but thanks to the
internet we are no longer dependent on others to write the news they see fit
for you to read and to spike what they don't. All the facts the so-called
reporter spiked will be posted on appropriate websites in due time, and I think
you will be as shocked as we were.
ForElvisMemory
It's one thing to lie about your time around Elvis because it's hard to confirm
those stories, but to lie about your military and persona career - something so
easily checked out - He's not very smart is he?
Bill and Marty tell us what you know! What information did this reporter have?
I have heard stories over the past few years about Dick Grob but didn't really
think too much of it until now. Now I realize all the things that I have heard
are true. How sad, there is nothing worse than a liar. Now I do not believe
anything he says.
ForElvisMemory
verified, he would have been a fool if he didn't.
TLC4Elvis
>really
>think too much of it until now. Now I realize all the things that I have
>heard
>are true. How sad, there is nothing worse than a liar. Now I do not believe
>anything he says.
>
>
comes out of this guys mouth! At this point I'm guessing that's what he is
counting on, that no matter what or who he's talking about, we fans will take
him at his word without question. Wellllll ...... no more, he is so NOT
credible. Not to mention he's gotten so cocky with his excuses at fan
functions. I'm almost embarrased for him!
Some fans have been warned about Grob, selling fakes, lying, etc but they would
not believe that someone like him would do such a thing. Well he did! He is
charming to your face and stabs you in the back when you are not looking!
Hopefully now those who have been warned about this man will now know the
truth about him, is a fraud and has taken advantage of Elvis fans, what can be
worse than that!
TLC
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> Was he prosecuted?
As far as I know,Dick has not been investigated or prosecuted...if he had lied about his military record,why has he not got into trouble? It just does not make sense.