Did Elvis have a nose-job, Marty?
J.B. van der Zee
But when you compare early pictures with later ones his nosebridge seems
different.
In the early pictures the bridge looks wider compared to later pictures on
which his nosebridge looks sharper, less wide.
Do you know if Elvis had a nose-job, Marty. If so, the operation must have
taken place already in the fifties, I would say.
(Maybe from the dentist's office he went straight to a plastic surgeon)
Regards,
J.B.
Scott
"J.B. van der Zee" <vande...@home.nl> wrote in message
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Hmm. This is a new one on me. I've read that he had some stuff done
around his eyes and that it was so minor nobody he knew even noticed, but
I've never heard anything about a nose job.
Scott
Roberto Z.
also notice that you always make questions on Elvis "appearance" ... If
you're gay and in love with Elvis that is ok, but I guess you are in the
wrong ng .....
Roberto, Milano, Italia
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Deelen
say the least.
J.B. van der Zee <vande...@home.nl> skrev i en
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asmo
If I was gay and in love with Elvis, why would this be the wrong
newsgroup for me? Is this a "heterosexuals only" ng?
I think homophobes like yourself should pack their bags and go
somewhere else...
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:43:28 GMT, "Roberto Z." <robym...@yahoo.it>
wrote:
Flaming Star
ivor
asmo wrote in message <3aec6693.1902688@news>...
Flaming Star
this person wants to ask about Elvis and his appearence thats fine. Its part
of the interesting history of Elvis. If you dont like just ignore but if you
want a debate and I have no problem with that, just make a strong statement
in return. Now I guess this just is homophobic argument and you are dieing
to call someone gay. I know the feeling. :-)
ivor
Roberto Z. wrote in message ...
Moono123
As far as i know he never had a nose job in the 50's or any other time.
He did have surgery around his eyes in the 70's.
Marty
J.B. van der Zee
But rest assured... I am not! I am just not only interested in his music.
I am interested in Elvis as a human being too. His appearance and possible
surgery are part of that.
If my questions are a bit out of line, so be it. At least they are new and
original, I think.
If however you don't like them, don't read them!
Have a nice evening y'all!
J.B.
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suave harv
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> I don't think that my questions have anything to do with being gay or not.
> But rest assured... I am not!
I am!!
On alternating weekdays. You gotta cast a wide net these days.
suave harv
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> This is no "discuss music only ng". Its just plain old ELVIS ng. Now if
> this person wants to ask about Elvis and his appearence thats fine.
Fine by me too, but this guy keeps asking questions like "were his teeth
capped" and "who changed his bed linen after he erm, 'soiled' them". I'm
sure he's a very nice, well balanced person, but his posts give me the
creeps.
IISergioII
from the 1950s it's fairly flaired at the nostrils, while by the 1970s it seems
to be much sleeker/narrow.
Flaming Star
>Fine by me too, but this guy keeps asking questions like "were his teeth
>capped" and "who changed his bed linen after he erm, 'soiled' them". I'm
>sure he's a very nice, well balanced person, but his posts give me the
>creeps.
>
But so what? - nobody is being hurt or insulted. Hes justs been accused of
being gay here. Suave - do you have a problem with gay people?
Flaming Star
for me" ? - The stalker makes a remark to Clint about the way his nostrils
spread out like wings when hes angry!
LiVi...@prodigy.net
Now, I do remember reading in 'Down at the End of Lonely Street' that Elvis
had a nose job in the fifties (prior to 1957). . . I quote:
"When he showed up on the set (Loving You) in January 1957, he had been
glamourized -- with the help of one of Hollywood's leading plastic surgeons.
Both he (Elvis) and his high school buddy turned disk jockey, George Klein,
had become patients of Dr. Maury Parks, who was known at the time as the
"nose doctor." Klein's surgery has never been a secret, but Elvis insisted
on it. (it meaning the secrecy of his nose job)
"He wanted someone else to have the operation at the same time," said Joe
Esposito, a longtime Presley confidant. According to Esposito, Elvis' nose
was altered "only slightly." The acne scars disappeared and his complexion
was suddenly flawless. Elvis would go on to be a repeat customer for Dr.
Parks.
Other changes were made as well. Elvis teeth had been capped. And most
noticeably after years of temporarily darkening his hair -- with greases,
oils, and on rare occassion even shoe polish -- he finaly decided to dye it
black. With rare exceptions he would retain that color for the rest of his
life. In, fact, Elvis Presley's black hair became such a part of his image
that many people would never realize he was once sandy blonde."
a note: A few years ago, there was a documentary out . . . which aired on
the romance channel (I taped it)
it was about June Juanico, who was Elvis' girl in the middle to late 50's,
it was called Elvis' Lost Love.
There is COLOR footage taken of Elvis and June, and others, on a fishing
boat while on vacation in Bilouxi (June's hometown), the footage is
interesting, Elvis is sort of chubby, just enough to make you go aw (sighs)
he smokes cigars, fishes some, and this is the ONLY time that I can ever
recall seeing his natural hair color.
June Juanico wrote a book called Elvis: In The Twilight Of Memory, suggested
reading.
Almost everyone and anyone who ever had any kind of contact with the man,
has written a book, I wonder how Elvis would feel about that ? Some of the
books are not so nice, but then there are books like Billy Stanley's book
(Elvis' step-brother) Elvis: My Brother. I really liked that book, I just
had to smile. Read Down at The End of Lonely Street if you haven't already.
Livia in Illinois
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suave harv
I answered that question twenty minutes ago, Ivor, on this same thread. I
thought you knew me better than that! I am always accommodating to all
genders, ask anyone that knows me (there are a few on this ng).
suave
Bouh
>
> Dunno if h did in fact have a nose job done BUT if you look at his schnozz
> from the 1950s it's fairly flaired at the nostrils, while by the 1970s it seems
> to be much sleeker/narrow.
When you've had a nose job, you have blood-injected rings around your
eyes for at least two weeks, sometimes a few months. Some (unlucky)
people need almost a year before their face is back to, say, rest.
I mean a real, actual nose job, not a slight thing that doesn't change
your appearance.
I doubt Elvis was ever long enough from the public eye to have been
through this on the sly.
(I can tell : I've had a nose job two months ago and my surgeon told
that kind of stuff).
Flaming Star
>
Why?
Ivor
Flaming Star
I saw it after in another post by you. and I always only kidding really. I
do know you are the most reasonable of the reasonable.
I didnt know anyone here knew you personally!
who does?
ivor
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suave harv
To catch more fish?
Moono123
>Now, I do remember reading in 'Down at the End of Lonely Street' that Elvis
>had a nose job in the fifties (prior to 1957). . . I quote:
>
> "When he showed up on the set (Loving You) in January 1957, he had been
>glamourized -- with the help of one of Hollywood's leading plastic surgeons.
>Both he (Elvis) and his high school buddy turned disk jockey, George Klein,
>had become patients of Dr. Maury Parks, who was known at the time as the
>"nose doctor." Klein's surgery has never been a secret, but Elvis insisted
>on it. (it meaning the secrecy of his nose job)
>"He wanted someone else to have the operation at the same time," said Joe
>Esposito, a longtime Presley confidant. According to Esposito, Elvis' nose
>was altered "only slightly." The acne scars disappeared and his complexion
>was suddenly flawless. Elvis would go on to be a repeat customer for Dr.
>Parks.
>
Isn't that interesting, since Joe didn't meet Elvis until 1959 in Germany.
He was not a repeat patient of Dr. Parks'.
The one plastic surgery that any of us knew about was done by a Memphis
surgeon. Dr. Parks was in Hollywood.
Elvis did pay for Klein's nose job because George's original nose was huge and
he was self conscious about it. No mention was ever made of Elvis having
plastic surgery back then by Klein, Elvis or anyone else that was there at the
time.
He had no problem talking to us about the one in the 70's and I'm confident
that if he had one in '56 or '57 he would have told us.
Believe what you want.
Marty
Flaming Star
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>> Why?
>
>To catch more fish?
>
>
>
Angeline
Michael Jackson told the reporter that Lisa Marie had told him that Elvis
did have a nose job.
I did a search and found:
TVG: What about the plastic surgery?
MJ: All of Hollywood has plastic surgery! I don't know why they point me
out. The press exaggerated it. It's just to my nose, you know. They want it
to be everything. Just the nose isn't enough. Elvis had his nose done- Lisa
Marie [Presley, to whom Jackson was married from May 1994 to January 1996]
told me. They don't talk about that. They single me out. It's not fair.
Here's a link to the entire interview:
http://www.pip.com.au/~barrotra/mj/noframes/trans/tvguide.shtml
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J.B. van der Zee
of them, can you?
He had his teeth capped, he did mess his bed sometimes, was a drug- addict
and he probably had a nose- job too.
And he also made great music and was the greatest performer the world has
ever seen.
Sorry if my posts offend you-I think the truth should be discussed.
Stop seeing Elvis through rose-tinted glasses, please. He wasn't perfect.He
was human.
J.B.
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suave harv
> Maybe my posts give you the creeps but you can't deny there's truth in
each
> of them, can you?
Certainly not. I wouldn't even dare. It's interesting that you enjoy talking
about your favourite performer's incontinence, all in the name of truth!
What a noble cause!
> He had his teeth capped, he did mess his bed sometimes, was a drug- addict
> and he probably had a nose- job too.
There you go again, extolling the great man's virtues. How dignified!
> And he also made great music and was the greatest performer the world has
> ever seen.
You obvously haven't seen me play piano then!
> Sorry if my posts offend you-I think the truth should be discussed.
Good for you. I tend to think that the topic of whoever changed Elvis'
shitty bedsheets is a bit of a strange topic to wonder about, let alone post
messages about in the internet.
We'll agree to differ on this one, I think.
> Stop seeing Elvis through rose-tinted glasses, please. He wasn't
perfect.He
> was human.
No he wasn't, he was a Martian. I saw it on the internet. Honest.
suave
Jb20002
>
>Maybe my posts give you the creeps but you can't deny there's truth in each
>of them, can you?
>He had his teeth capped, he did mess his bed sometimes, was a drug- addict
>and he probably had a nose- job too.
>And he also made great music and was the greatest performer the world has
>ever seen.
>Sorry if my posts offend you-I think the truth should be discussed.
>Stop seeing Elvis through rose-tinted glasses, please. He wasn't perfect.He
>was human.
>J.B.
J.B.
What is the harm in viewing Elvis with rose-tinted glasses? Why must everything
be the truth and real? Why do we have to know every last detail?
Hollywood is made up of fantasies. It has been successful for many years doing
just that. We all live with truth and reality, some of us like to get away from
it once in a while.
JB
suave harv
> Why u need more fish?
It was an analogy, that's all.
suave harv
> What is the harm in viewing Elvis with rose-tinted glasses? Why must
everything
> be the truth and real? Why do we have to know every last detail?
A good point. A few years ago, someone lent me the book 'The Death Of
Elvis'. One chapter describes the autopsy. I read it and it chilled me to
the bone. Surely it can't be morally right to intrude so on another's
private life just because we enjoy his music?
Elvis autopsy!!! How absolutely, fucking twisted and creepy! Do we need to
know all this stuff?
People are buying copies of the 'ambulance' footage, as it carries Elvis
through the gates of Graceland on that fateful night. Why?
People are discussing Elvis' bowel movements on the internet, and justifying
it because it is "the truth".
How twisted and perverse.
Surely I'm not the only one who feels uncomfortable about all this unhealthy
fascination?
suave
Angeline
problem with it, I also don't feel that I look at Elvis with rose colored
glasses, but to me there is a certain amount of a person's dignity that
should not ever be taken away from them.
Angeline
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LiVi...@prodigy.net
I read Bill Stanleys book, and thought that it was a little sad that he and
his brothers did not stay very involved with Lisa and Priscilla after Elvis
died. Billy loved Lisa. I wonder if Graceland takes care of those boys? Last
thing I heard about Billy was he was a race car driver, married with
daughters go BILLY. He had a tough time after Elvis died, not because Elvis
died, but. I don't read very much about Marty, what are you doing these
days? did you stay in touch with people you knew then, obviously you weren't
best friends with everyone involved? Do you read any of the books that have
come out? They quote you at times.
I souppose they might sound plastic, sometimes I think they do. READ: "with
the help of one of Hollywood's leading plastic surgeons." Ah, anyway.
>>>>>Did Elvis like All in the Family, I read he met Sally Struthers. I love
that show :+)
Livia in Illinois
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Moono123
>
>I read Bill Stanleys book, and thought that it was a little sad that he and
>his brothers did not stay very involved with Lisa and Priscilla after Elvis
>died. Billy loved Lisa. I wonder if Graceland takes care of those boys? Last
>thing I heard about Billy was he was a race car driver, married with
>daughters go BILLY. He had a tough time after Elvis died, not because Elvis
>died, but. I don't read very much about Marty, what are you doing these
>days? did you stay in touch with people you knew then, obviously you weren't
>best friends with everyone involved? Do you read any of the books that have
>come out? They quote you at times.
>I souppose they might sound plastic, sometimes I think they do. READ: "with
>the help of one of Hollywood's leading plastic surgeons." Ah, anyway.
>
>
>>>>>>Did Elvis like All in the Family, I read he met Sally Struthers. I love
>that show :+)
>
>Livia in Illinois
>
There are six of us who are still close and good friends.
We don't have anything to do with the Stanley's nor do we vouch for anything
they say or write.
I have an advertising publishing and marketing company.
Marty
Big Fan
Elvis, getting a nose job...cmon !
>
Angeline
seem less significant.
I think Elvis' face just grew up to his nose, if that makes any sense... : )
And of course the lighting of the different photos makes a huge difference,
we can all compare pictures of him from different stages in his career when
his nose looks larger or smaller.
Angeline
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Jb20002
>I think Elvis' face just grew up to his nose, if that makes any sense... : )
>And of course the lighting of the different photos makes a huge difference,
I think Elvis looked shorter in pre-army photos. Compare the pics from "King
Creole" to the pics from the "Sinatra" special, you'll see what I mean.
JB
TheBrokenS
TheBr...@aol.com
"He was the Man of Tomorrow, until tomorrow passed him by."
Roberto Z.
Are you sure that I am not gay too ???
I am the one who is homophobic ???
Poor idiot ........
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>
>
> If I was gay and in love with Elvis, why would this be the wrong
> newsgroup for me? Is this a "heterosexuals only" ng?
>
> I think homophobes like yourself should pack their bags and go
> somewhere else...
Bill Burk
>> Elvis did pay for Klein's nose job because George's original nose was
huge and he was self conscious about it. No mention was ever made of Elvis
having plastic surgery back then by Klein, Elvis or anyone else that was
there at the time. >>
I am at THIS moment checking with someone who "would" have been there if
Elvis were there when GK got his nose job. Hope to have a reply by tonight.
007
--
*********************
Bill E. Burk
Publisher, Elvis World Magazine
suave harv
> suave, I know what your saying. Im only playing with ya! :-) Is it me or
are
> you acting a bit tense. You recent messages lack the charm they usually
do!
> ivor
Hey man, it was Sunday night, I'd had a mega weekend. I played a gig on
Friday, worked Saturday and spent Saturday night in a stupor in Manchester.
Perhaps my hangover was showing.
love & kisses, you sensitive soul you!
Flaming Star
you acting a bit tense. You recent messages lack the charm they usually do!
ivor
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Flaming Star
>love & kisses, you sensitive soul you!
>
ooohhh suave , not in front of all these people!
ivor
SF
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Richard Palmer
<ha...@SPAMLESScassiopeia95.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> What is the harm in viewing Elvis with rose-tinted glasses? Why must
>everything
>> be the truth and real? Why do we have to know every last detail?
>
>A good point. A few years ago, someone lent me the book 'The Death Of
>Elvis'. One chapter describes the autopsy. I read it and it chilled me to
>the bone. Surely it can't be morally right to intrude so on another's
>private life just because we enjoy his music?
The first point that needs making is, anyone who buys or borrows a
book called "The Death Of Elvis" is going to be in for a shock if they
expect to be reading perhaps a fluffy document about his favourite
recipes.
>Elvis autopsy!!! How absolutely, fucking twisted and creepy! Do we need to
>know all this stuff?
Some people need to know it, in the way that people "need" to watch
the Zapruder footage, or (if you think about it) want to watch a film
based on the eventual death of several hundred folks on board the
Titanic. What makes these things acceptable is the passing of time,
and it's the reason why the forthcoming movie about Harold Shipman
(notorious British doctor who killed a stack of patients) is causing
so much controversy, coming so soon after the event.
And for the people who don't want to know about Elvis' autopsy, and
who want to only know about his music, then they can avoid all
references if they so wish.
>People are buying copies of the 'ambulance' footage, as it carries Elvis
>through the gates of Graceland on that fateful night. Why?
I have no idea, but equally I have no idea why people spend so much
time tracking down almost unwatchable footage from 1970's concerts.
Of course I do have an idea, and it's that fans make no distinction
between what is good and what is bad, and they only know that it's
Elvis. The possibility that something might be rare is also a draw.
Should someone come forward one day with CCTV footage of Elvis
dropping off the lavvy and going blue, I have no doubt at all that
somebody somewhere will bootleg it and it will become as equally
sought after.
>People are discussing Elvis' bowel movements on the internet, and justifying
>it because it is "the truth".
>How twisted and perverse.
>Surely I'm not the only one who feels uncomfortable about all this unhealthy
>fascination?
Like I said, it's no more perverse than sitting and watching John F
Kennedy get the side of his head blown off in slow motion colour. I
doubt if Jackie Onassis ever pulled up a chair, made herself a cup of
coffee and bit into a chocolate biscuit while viewing it on her large
screen TV, but to the rest of the world, with no personal involvement,
it's one of the more grotesquely fascinating documents of modern
times.
And Elvis is no different, almost a quarter of a century after his
death, than JFK. A public figure with an above averagely interesting
life (and death), about which folks love to speculate.
In the absence of a newsgroup called alt.elvis.bizarre, this is as
good a place as any to indulge ourselves in that speculation.
Richard
IISergioII
>>It was an analogy, that's all.<<
Speaking of which, did Elvis ever fish? If so, did he enjoy it? What did he
like to fish for and where? Did he go up to the edge of the water, strike a
"fisherman" pose, and wait for Charlie Hodge to insert a fishing pole into his
outstretched hands?
Did Joe Esposito ever sue any of the fish Elvis caught?
IISergioII
had become patients of Dr. Maury Parks<
Really?
Ever see what George "The Ghoul" Klein looks like?
Presumably Dr. Parks worked on Klein's schnozzola either on a Friday or a
Monday, if ya get my drift.
IISergioII
noticeably after years of temporarily darkening his hair -- with greases,
oils, and on rare occassion even shoe polish -- he finaly decided to dye it
black. With rare exceptions he would retain that color for the rest of his
life."
Yet when Elvis went for his Army induction and boot camp haircut his hair was
again light brown, this AFTER filing "Loving You" with jet black hair. What
gives?
IISergioII
>Last thing I heard about Billy was he was a race car driver, married with
daughters <
Is he the toe-headed one who became a preacher after kicking his drug habit?
IISergioII
"He had no problem talking to us about the one in the 70's and I'm confident
that if he had one in '56 or '57 he would have told us."
Did Elvis ever talk about what he'd do if he lost his hair? The thouht must
have, in the back of his mind, really terrified him, judging by the times he
joked about it onstage.
IISergioII
>I have an advertising publishing and marketing company.<
People should read Marty's "Elvis, Portrait of a Friend" that I believe I
read in the early-1980s, in addition to "Elvis: New Revelations from the
Memphis Mafia" (my all-time fave Elvis-related book) to get to know more about
Marty, who has long been involved in the business side of the music industry.
Marty had a lot to do with the great Elvis "comeback" sound from the late-1960s
that we enjoy.
Moono123
No, I never heard him say anything about it. he might have spoken to Larry
about it as Larry was his hairdresser for a few years.
Marty
Moono123
He couldn't take his hair dresser with him. Do you know what kind of ribbing
he would have taken in 1958 by his army mates for dying his hair? He wouldn't
take the chance of being embarrassed that way.
Marty
Moono123
He went deep sea fishing a couple of times in Biloxi in the 50's. Other than
that, I have no recollection of him ever fishing.
We did go to a small lake on numerous occassions and shoot snakes.
Marty
JESSE10802
LiVi...@prodigy.net
I think that was David Stanley
There were three David, Billy and Ricky
My middle name is actually Olivia (and you are the first)
Livia in Illinois
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Johnnynoangel
>'The Death Of
>Elvis'. One chapter describes the autopsy. I read it and it chilled me to
>the bone. Surely it can't be morally right to intrude so on another's
>private life just because we enjoy his music?
>
>Elvis autopsy!!! How absolutely, fucking twisted and creepy! Do we need to
>know all this stuff?
>
SO, WHY DID YOU READ THE BOOK?
DON'T BE HYPOCRITICAL!
Johnny~
Rachael Carrington
<vande...@home.nl> wrote:
I think if Elvis did have a nose job somebody would have written a
book about it by now.
Sorry about the short comment, but I dont really care.
Rach.
Oh if anyone is interested I have had a couple of my teeth capped.
suave harv
So, I'm not allowed to criticise anything I'm familiar with? What type of
screwed up logic is this?
If watched a public hanging, does that make me a supporter of the death
sentence? If I read the Bible, does that make me a Christian?. . .
I've even read your post. . . see, I'll read anything, me!
Remember the fans that dissed the Goldman book, without even reading it?
Well I read it, because if I didn't, then what worth would my opinion be of
it? Got it? . . . . .hello?
> DON'T BE HYPOCRITICAL!
It's called making an informed decision. Had I have *written* the book, or
even *bought* (knowing of its contents) it, then I would be a hypocrite.
Now stop shouting, you'll bust a bloodvessel!
suave.
Jb20002
>screwed up logic is this?
>If watched a public hanging, does that make me a supporter of the death
>sentence?
A little bit. If you observe a crime or a murder without notifying the police,
in some states in the US, they can arrest you too. So, does that make you a
supporter of the crime? The states seem to think so.
>>If I read the Bible, does that make me a Christian?. . .<<
The Bible is not exclusive to Christians
>
>Remember the fans that dissed the Goldman book, without even reading it?
>Well I read it, because if I didn't, then what worth would my opinion be of
>it? Got it? . . . . .hello?
>
>> DON'T BE HYPOCRITICAL!
>
>It's called making an informed decision. Had I have *written* the book, or
>even *bought* (knowing of its contents) it, then I would be a hypocrite.
>Now stop shouting, you'll bust a bloodvessel!
>suave.
>
>
>
We all know it got a little ugly towards the end for Elvis. And we remain fans
in spite of it. So why must the gruesome end always get shoved down our throats
every time the topic of Elvis is discussed.
We're not ill informed, we just prefer other aspects of his career.
Yes, watching JFK's head being blown by a bullet is interesting when you're
discussing the conspiracy of his assassination. But certainly, you can discuss
his administration and his policy without always running this film clip.
So, why can't Elvis ever be discussed or documented without getting into the
before and after thing?
JB
>
suave harv
> >If watched a public hanging, does that make me a supporter of the death
> >sentence?
> A little bit. If you observe a crime or a murder without notifying the
police,
> in some states in the US, they can arrest you too. So, does that make you
a
> supporter of the crime? The states seem to think so.
Is this your opinion, or the opinion of the law? when you know the
difference, get back to me.
As for the rest of your post, I can't decide whether you are agreeing,
disagreeing or simply making a statement.
Anyhow, don't sweat it man. Just keep listening to the music, and when you
have a considered reply, post away. I'll look forward to it.
suave
Johnnynoangel
>>know all this stuff?
Well, You obviously needed to know!
Why else would you even consider reading it?
But this is a human reality......
Folks always say how twisted this and that is...BUT, still slow down to view
the wrecks & carnage on the highways.
Johnny~
IISergioII
>My middle name is actually Olivia (and you are the first)<
Lovely name.
And I'm honored to be "the first." ;-)
IISergioII
> Yet when Elvis went for his Army induction and boot camp haircut his hair
was again light brown, this AFTER filing "Loving You" with jet black hair. What
gives?
Marty Lacker replied:
>>He couldn't take his hair dresser with him. Do you know what kind of ribbing
he would have taken in 1958 by his army mates for dying his hair? He wouldn't
take the chance of being embarrassed that way.<<
I know, what I was referring to was how his jet-black dyed hair appeared its
natural brown color at the Army induction haircut.
Presumably his hair had been dyed black all the way down to the roots. How,
then, did his Army crew-cut appear "dirty blonde" and not at all dark?
Moono123
Marty
suave harv
> Why else would you even consider reading it?
I've seen bestiality pictures, but I wouldn't fuck a goat!
Get some perspective here. I read it because it's a book about one of my
favourite perfomers. After I read it, I formed an opinion. That's how it
works.
I don't think Thomas Hardy's 'Return Of The Native' is as good as his 'Far
From The Madding Crowd', but I still read it. Understand?
> But this is a human reality......
> Folks always say how twisted this and that is...
Chubby Checker was the worst for saying this, I reckon.
BUT, still slow down to view
> the wrecks & carnage on the highways.
I don't. I speed past. That's the difference. I'm always speeeeding.
Man.
suave
Johnnynoangel
>favourite perfomers. After I read it, I formed an opinion. That's how it
>works.
Oh...so you didn't think it would have been twisted and gross before you read
it?
I'm not saying DON"T read it......
I'm just pointing out the fact that you probably had a GREAT idea how twisted
it could be before you read the first sentence........but you just had to read
it anyhow.........Most would.
>BUT, still slow down to view
>> the wrecks & carnage on the highways.
>
>I don't. I speed past.
Yea...right!
Not when everybody around you is rubbernecking themselves.
Folks all around this world are getting desensitized from all forms of
media......
This is just another example.
Johnny~
Gregor Retkowski
for example is interested in stuff like that...
the truth...hm
the fans of today....
the fans in the seventies...don´t believe everything which was written in
the yellowpress...today after reading it again and again...
do you believe really all that shit they writte in books???
he was incortinent...
a raccist
not be able to have normal good sex anymore...
he had sex with his mum....
in the near future we will read(they had to come up with brand new shit...to
sell again)
he wear a wig till he was 17(hello ivor)
he never sing by himself....
he had sex with liza and other little girls...
ok i forgoten he had sex with mini mae...and it will be uglier everytime
because they had to have somting new and more uglier...
today i must hear fans not only the press saying he was loaded...not able to
give a good concert...fat ...thats not the treatment i expect from a fan...
i think it´s a good idea to think first then talk...
and it´s goes on my nerves when i talk about stuff like that and the "truth"
that some people treat me like a fan with rose glaces!
the truth about him having sex with his mum....i know bymyself when i read
this what to think about it...
today there are people here they believe in every word what someone of the
yellowpress write...start thinking again
Greg
"suave harv" <ha...@SPAMLESScassiopeia95.freeserve.co.uk> schrieb im
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>
> > What is the harm in viewing Elvis with rose-tinted glasses? Why must
> everything
> > be the truth and real? Why do we have to know every last detail?
>
> A good point. A few years ago, someone lent me the book 'The Death Of
> Elvis'. One chapter describes the autopsy. I read it and it chilled me to
> the bone. Surely it can't be morally right to intrude so on another's
> private life just because we enjoy his music?
>
> Elvis autopsy!!! How absolutely, fucking twisted and creepy! Do we need
to
> know all this stuff?
>
> People are buying copies of the 'ambulance' footage, as it carries Elvis
> through the gates of Graceland on that fateful night. Why?
>
> People are discussing Elvis' bowel movements on the internet, and
justifying
> it because it is "the truth".
> How twisted and perverse.
> Surely I'm not the only one who feels uncomfortable about all this
unhealthy
> fascination?
> suave
>
>
>
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