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Father Haskell

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Dec 14, 2009, 11:51:02 PM12/14/09
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Connect white LED to DVM, point the LED at a light source,
and read light intensity as voltage -- pointing the LED at
the noonday sun produces 1.4 v. Very cool. Are there
any problems with this design? Is the output linear -- if
I read 0.7 v from a given light source, is that light source
one half as bright as the sun at high noon?

Jasen Betts

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Dec 15, 2009, 5:06:09 AM12/15/09
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On 2009-12-15, Father Haskell <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Connect white LED to DVM, point the LED at a light source,
> and read light intensity as voltage -- pointing the LED at
> the noonday sun produces 1.4 v. Very cool. Are there
> any problems with this design?

white LEDs cost more than coloured LEDs and are less efficient in this
application. try with a RED led in an uncoloured case.

if you measure microamperes instead of volts it's approximately linear

> I read 0.7 v from a given light source, is that light source
> one half as bright as the sun at high noon?

the LED only responds to frequencies above some limit.

brightness of light sources is not being measured with that arrangement
of optics.

George Herold

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Dec 15, 2009, 11:53:48 AM12/15/09
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Forrest Mims uses LED's as spectrally selective photo detectors.
Google "Forrest Mims +solar radiometer"

Cool stuff.

George H.

Father Haskell

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Dec 15, 2009, 9:23:18 PM12/15/09
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On Dec 15, 11:53 am, George Herold <ggher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 14, 11:51 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Connect white LED to DVM, point the LED at a light source,
> > and read light intensity as voltage -- pointing the LED at
> > the noonday sun produces 1.4 v.  Very cool.  Are there
> > any problems with this design?  Is the output linear -- if
> > I read 0.7 v from a given light source, is that light source
> > one half as bright as the sun at high noon?
>
> Forrest Mims uses LED's as spectrally selective photo detectors.

Mims is the writer who showed me that LEDs could be used
as sensors.

George Herold

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Dec 16, 2009, 9:06:05 AM12/16/09
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Oh, Well If you want to use the LED as a 'linear' detector, then I
would try measuring the current and not the voltage. But read the
Mims articles.. he's much more of an expert than I am. I might expect
white LED's to be messier than red, orange or yellow ones (Doesn't the
'white' come from the phosphour around a blue LED?). Do you have
some project in mind or are you just fooling around?

George H.

Father Haskell

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Dec 16, 2009, 10:28:28 PM12/16/09
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Meter for testing plant lights. Don't need extreme precision,
+/- 5% is good.

George Herold

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Dec 17, 2009, 4:42:25 PM12/17/09
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Hmm, are you interested in the spectrum from the lamp or just the
total intensity? The LED's will give you some spectral information...
but I've never used them and you'd have to think about how to
calibrate them. Again Mims is the source for that type of info. For
an intensity measument you could try a photodiode or if pirce is
important, a solar cell. (And agian it will be best to measure the
current from the diode.)

George h.

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