Palin VP pick idea scares liberal media
The_Carpathia
then...silence...from the left winged media. Why? Suddenly, Sarah
Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
She is a female....obviously. She is pro-life and religious (would
get the conservative vote). She is Gov of Alaska and could help
resolve the oil shortage problem. She is young, which would off-set
Obama. She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
have. She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
personal angel to her management of the war. She has a child that his
handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
influence in education.
I don't know if she will be selected or not. She would combine the
positives I said about Pawlenty the other day with the positives I
pointed out for Forena...and then some. However, the silence of the
liberal media to her choice possibility is deafening.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
The_Carpathia
One note: It doesn't have to be Palin. I think she would be a great
pick, but any woman leader that is pro-life would kill the Obama
ticket at this point.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
John
> The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> then...silence...from the left winged media. Why?
Probably because they had to find out about her?
>Suddenly, Sarah
> Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> She is a female....obviously.
So was Geraldine Ferraro...
>She is pro-life and religious (would
> get the conservative vote).
Of the Southern Baptists? The ones who say that woman should be
subservient to man?
>She is Gov of Alaska
Very small electoral state. State of Uncle Ted Stevens who seems to
be in a bit of hot water right now. No one in Alaska's politics gets
in without the blessing of Uncle Ted. What are her ties to dear old
Uncle Ted?
>and could help
> resolve the oil shortage problem.
Wyoming, North Dakota, Montana and South Dakota also are energy rich
with not just oil. Why not choose one of their Governors? Oh, that's
right, most of them are Democrats.
>She is young,
And inexperienced--even more so that Obama.
>which would off-set
> Obama.
Or not.
>She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> have.
Hardly.
>She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> personal angel to her management of the war.
And so does Joe Biden.
>She has a child that his
> handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> influence in education.
And Obama has worked to improve education for special needs children.
But you're making her sound liberal.
>
> I don't know if she will be selected or not. She would combine the
> positives I said about Pawlenty the other day with the positives I
> pointed out for Forena...and then some. However, the silence of the
> liberal media to her choice possibility is deafening.
You don't think that, no, well maybe, nah it couldn't be, that maybe,
just maybe, the on-going Democratic Convention had something to do
with the spotlight being off McCain?
I hope McCain chooses Palin. It just might be the worst choice he
could make. Well, maybe Fiorina would have been a worse choice.
>
> Kenneth Clifton
> christiansuperhero.com
John
Or not, as the case may be. You're going to vote for McCain anyway so
why not want him to choose a strong VP, not an inexperienced person
from a remote state?
>
> Kenneth Clifton
> christiansuperhero.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Cary Kittrell
> The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> then...silence...from the left winged media.
"leftwinged media"
When did "wing" become a transitive verb?
> Why? Suddenly, Sarah
> Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> She is a female....obviously. She is pro-life and religious (would
> get the conservative vote). She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> resolve the oil shortage problem. She is young, which would off-set
> Obama. She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> have. She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> personal angel to her management of the war. She has a child that his
> handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> influence in education.
Don't worry: I heard about her on staunchly conservative rightwinged
National Public Radio this morning, so in spite of the vast leftwinged
conspiracy, patriotic right-thinking Public Broadcasting patriots
are slipping the news past the evul librul news embargo.
-- cary
The_Carpathia
OH? Experience is important? Keep that in mind consideing McCain vs.
Obama.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
The_Carpathia
> In article <11e8cdaf-ef18-427a-8cba-2b3329951...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> > then...silence...from the left winged media.
>
> "leftwinged media"
>
> When did "wing" become a transitive verb?
>
> > Why? Suddenly, Sarah
> > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> > She is a female....obviously. She is pro-life and religious (would
> > get the conservative vote). She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> > resolve the oil shortage problem. She is young, which would off-set
> > Obama. She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> > have. She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> > personal angel to her management of the war. She has a child that his
> > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> > influence in education.
>
> Don't worry: I heard about her on staunchly conservative rightwinged
> National Public Radio this morning, so in spite of the vast leftwinged
> conspiracy, patriotic right-thinking Public Broadcasting patriots
> are slipping the news past the evul librul news embargo.
>
> -- cary
She is the pick. Scared? She wins the woman vote, the conservative
vote, the soccor mom vote, the sports vote (former sportscaster), the
youth vote (younger than Obama), the special needs family vote (with
her youngest child), the economy vote, the energy needs vote, the war
vote (her child is there), etc.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
The_Carpathia
A few more things about her. She was Miss Congeniality and 2nd place
for being Miss Alaska, before her political career. She was a
sportcaster in Alaska. She was head of her Fellowship of Christian
Atheletes at her school, where she won the basketball championship,
playing with a fractured ankle. She is known as a "hockey mom." She
is married to a man that won the Iron Dog snowmobile race (2000 miles)
in Alaska for 4 years. She has 80 percent support in her state,
having beat an incumbant to be Gov. She was President of the Alaska
Mayor's association, when she was Mayor.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
The_Carpathia
Another note. She is very young. So, she could run as President in
the future (against Clinton), whether McCain wins or not.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
the_pc_jellybean!!
"The_Carpathia" <writi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:849a2096-e47a-4343...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
That's nice.
Do you take milk with your tea, vicar?
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
Cary Kittrell
> On Aug 29, 10:46=A0am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > In article <11e8cdaf-ef18-427a-8cba-2b3329951...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups=
> .com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> > > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> >
> > "leftwinged media"
> >
> > When did "wing" become a transitive verb?
> >
> > > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> > > get the conservative vote). =A0She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> > > resolve the oil shortage problem. =A0She is young, which would off-set
> > > Obama. =A0She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> > > have. =A0She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> > > personal angel to her management of the war. =A0She has a child that hi=
> s
> > > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> > > influence in education.
> >
> > Don't worry: I heard about her on staunchly conservative rightwinged
> > National Public Radio this morning, so in spite of the vast leftwinged
> > conspiracy, patriotic right-thinking Public Broadcasting patriots
> > are slipping the news past the evul librul news embargo.
> >
> > -- cary
>
> She is the pick. Scared? She wins the woman vote, the conservative
> vote, the soccor mom vote, the sports vote (former sportscaster), the
> youth vote (younger than Obama), the special needs family vote (with
> her youngest child), the economy vote, the energy needs vote, the war
> vote (her child is there), etc.
Why you make me want to rush out and cast my vote for Vice President
right now!
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
> On Aug 29, 10:06=A0am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> > get the conservative vote). =A0She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> > resolve the oil shortage problem. =A0She is young, which would off-set
> > Obama. =A0She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> > have. =A0She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> > personal angel to her management of the war. =A0She has a child that his
> > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> > influence in education.
> >
> > positives I said about Pawlenty the other day with the positives I
> > liberal media to her choice possibility is deafening.
> >
> > Kenneth Clifton
> > christiansuperhero.com
>
> A few more things about her. She was Miss Congeniality and 2nd place
> for being Miss Alaska, before her political career. She was a
> sportcaster in Alaska. She was head of her Fellowship of Christian
> Atheletes at her school, where she won the basketball championship,
> playing with a fractured ankle. She is known as a "hockey mom." She
> is married to a man that won the Iron Dog snowmobile race (2000 miles)
> in Alaska for 4 years. She has 80 percent support in her state,
> having beat an incumbant to be Gov. She was President of the Alaska
> Mayor's association, when she was Mayor.
>
Sounds like she's got a total lock on the critical Boy Scout
and True Love Waits constituencies.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
But, but...don't you see the sheer *brilliance* of this?
In one deft, unexpected stroke, McCain has offset
the "experience" imbalance on the ticket!
-- cary
John
> On Aug 29, 10:46 am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <11e8cdaf-ef18-427a-8cba-2b3329951...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> > > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> > > then...silence...from the left winged media.
>
> > "leftwinged media"
>
> > When did "wing" become a transitive verb?
>
> > > Why? Suddenly, Sarah
> > > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> > > She is a female....obviously. She is pro-life and religious (would
> > > get the conservative vote). She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> > > resolve the oil shortage problem. She is young, which would off-set
> > > Obama. She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> > > have. She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> > > personal angel to her management of the war. She has a child that his
> > > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> > > influence in education.
>
> > Don't worry: I heard about her on staunchly conservative rightwinged
> > National Public Radio this morning, so in spite of the vast leftwinged
> > conspiracy, patriotic right-thinking Public Broadcasting patriots
> > are slipping the news past the evul librul news embargo.
>
> > -- cary
>
> She is the pick. Scared?
Um, not at all. Joe Biden will eat her alive.
>She wins the woman vote,
Nope. Not with the policies McCain is pursuing.
>the conservative
> vote,
Why? Just because she's a woman? Even though Evangelicals have a
history of believing that a woman's place is subverient to man?
>the soccor mom vote,
So are women not soccer moms?
>the sports vote (former sportscaster),
This may just possibly be the silliest thing you've said this month.
>the
> youth vote (younger than Obama),
Or maybe THIS is the silliest thing.
>the special needs family vote (with
> her youngest child),
Millions upon millions of families like that.
>the economy vote,
Damn, you've got 'em rolling in the aisles now.
>the energy needs vote,
Please stop, I can't take breathe.
>the war
> vote (her child is there), etc.
So is Beau Biden (but he doesn't count since he's a Democrat).
John
> On Aug 29, 10:06 am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> > then...silence...from the left winged media. Why? Suddenly, Sarah
> > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> > She is a female....obviously. She is pro-life and religious (would
> > get the conservative vote). She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> > resolve the oil shortage problem. She is young, which would off-set
> > Obama. She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> > have. She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> > personal angel to her management of the war. She has a child that his
> > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> > influence in education.
>
> > I don't know if she will be selected or not. She would combine the
> > positives I said about Pawlenty the other day with the positives I
> > pointed out for Forena...and then some. However, the silence of the
> > liberal media to her choice possibility is deafening.
>
> > Kenneth Clifton
> > christiansuperhero.com
>
> A few more things about her. She was Miss Congeniality and 2nd place
> for being Miss Alaska,
Just what we need a beauty queen one heartbeat away from the
Presidency. I can see it now. "Madame Vice-President, President
McCain has passed away. You're now the President." Oh please, can't
it wait? I'm getting my nails done!"
>before her political career.
Two-year Governor of a remote state with the highest gas prices in the
Nation. That's someone I want leading my Country in time of
emergency.
>She was a
> sportcaster in Alaska.
I guess that prepared her for the Presidency.
>She was head of her Fellowship of Christian
> Atheletes at her school, where she won the basketball championship,
> playing with a fractured ankle.
By herself? And in her spare time she leaps over tall buildings in a
single bound.
>She is known as a "hockey mom." She
> is married to a man that won the Iron Dog snowmobile race (2000 miles)
Great. If we ever go to war with Lapland he can lead the charge.
> in Alaska for 4 years. She has 80 percent support in her state,
> having beat an incumbant to be Gov. She was President of the Alaska
> Mayor's association, when she was Mayor.
Does one presidency actually prepare you for another? If so then
millions of people are prepared for to be President.
John
So youth is bad for Obama, but not for Palin?
>So, she could run as President in
> the future (against Clinton), whether McCain wins or not.
After she gets some more experience.
John
> "The_Carpathia" <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Um, Kenny-boy, you're slipping around the bend here. Please take your
meds.
John
So you're saying experience is NOT important? Remember that when you
cast your vote between McCain and Obama.
Steve Thomas
The leftards dont know her yet, when they meet her they will shit
their diapers.
> Kenneth Clifton
> christiansuperhero.com
Cary Kittrell
> On Aug 29, 8:55=A0am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 29, 10:46=A0am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article <11e8cdaf-ef18-427a-8cba-2b3329951...@x41g2000hsb.googlegrou=
> ps.com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> > > > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> >
> > > "leftwinged media"
> >
> > > When did "wing" become a transitive verb?
> >
> > > > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> > > > get the conservative vote). =A0She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> t
> > > > Obama. =A0She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC tick=
> et
> > > > have. =A0She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add =
> a
> > > > personal angel to her management of the war. =A0She has a child that =
> his
> > > > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> > > > influence in education.
> >
> > > Don't worry: I heard about her on staunchly conservative rightwinged
> > > National Public Radio this morning, so in spite of the vast leftwinged
> > > conspiracy, patriotic right-thinking Public Broadcasting patriots
> > > are slipping the news past the evul librul news embargo.
> >
> > > -- cary
> >
>
> Um, not at all. Joe Biden will eat her alive.
>
> >She wins the woman vote,
>
> Nope. Not with the policies McCain is pursuing.
>
>
> >the conservative
> > vote,
>
> Why? Just because she's a woman? Even though Evangelicals have a
> history of believing that a woman's place is subverient to man?
Dude! She's a beauty contestant! I can all but guarantee you that
she's not only worn pearls and gold, but that she's even
plaited her hair! All in DIRECT defiance of what good
Christian women are to do.
-- cary
tvor
"Cary Kittrell" <ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:g996lr$nlh$1...@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
this is it? This is what you will be criticizing her for?
ALso, If the VP position is un-important, why all the disaffected Hillary
voters? Why such an emphasis on "repairing the rift" between Obamma and the
Clintons?
Cary Kittrell
Me? She can wear ermine and fishnet; such things are
irrelevant to me.
Not, however, to evangelical Christians. Or more precisely,
not to such evangelical Christians as refrain from picking and
choosing among the convenient and inconvenient strictures
of the New Testament.
>
> ALso, If the VP position is un-important, why all the disaffected Hillary
> voters? Why such an emphasis on "repairing the rift" between Obamma and the
> Clintons?
Her followers are disconsolate mostly over the fact that she
lost the nomination, not that she was passed over for vice
president.
Me, I think she would have considerably strengthened the ticket.
But then, I'm not the one who would be sharing the office
with the Clintons, were the Deomcrats to win.
-- cary
Bob LeChevalier
>She is the pick. Scared?
Not hardly. If I though experience as important as you did a couple
days ago, I would be. But I think she is at least 35 and natural born
and therefore minimally qualified. But really truly minimally.
And if you think that she scares the left, you should see how dailykos
is laughing at McCain:
www.dailykos.com
<By picking Palin, McCain revealed his desperation to make a splash to
< rival the genuine excitement generated by the Obama campaign. But
< desperation leads to poor decisions -- and McCain's Hail Mary, like
< most last second desperation moves, is destined to fail miserably.
< He's smeared himself with the pungent mud of Alaska Republican
< corruption, while cutting the legs out from one of his most reliable
< attacks against Obama. And he's presented Americans with the
< prospect of electing a dangerous neophyte to be a heartbeat away from
< the presidency, behind a man whose life expectancy is less than two
< presidential terms.
<
<We all expected McCain to pick someone underwhelming to run with him.
< But we never could have expected a pick worse than Quayle. Yet
< that's what we got. Thanks, John
and
<The Sarah Quayle////// Palin pick is an abandonment of the "Obama is
< not ready to lead" attack lines. Those are dead, and to be honest,
< while that line didn't work for Hillary and it had limited traction
< for McCain, it still had some traction. That attack line is gone.
<
<Quayle Palin is also a an ideologue, on choice, on the environment, on
< energy -- all the way down the line. This an ideological pick in an
< election where self-identified Republicans are a dying breed and
< Democratic self-identification is skyrocketing. McCain has abandoned
< any notion of playing for the center. He's looking to shore up his
< right flank and hoping that the Evangelical Right can somehow drag
< McCain over the line.
They also found this quote:
<Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility
< of becoming McCain ticket mate.
<Palin replied: “[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I
< still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what
< is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?
>She wins the woman vote,
Only if the women are as dumb as Kennie, and very few are (although
somebody apparently married him)
>the conservative vote,
If McCain didn't have that already, the race was over a long time ago.
>the soccor mom vote,
How many "soccor (sic) moms" aren't already women?
>the sports vote (former sportscaster)
[cough, cough, guffaw]
the only way that she would get the sports vote (assuming that there
is such a thing) would be if she were qualified for the Sports
Illustrated swimsuit issue, and that would likely lose her any
"woman's vote"
>the youth vote (younger than Obama),
Now he thinks that the kids are as stupid as Kennie.
>the special needs family vote (with her youngest child)
whose care she will have to abandon to the rigors of a national
campaign.
>the economy vote,
Oh, she's an expert on how to fix the economy now.
>the energy needs vote,
Does she know about anything except oil?
>the war vote (her child is there), etc.
As mentioned, Biden matches on this, and she has to debate him, and
he's a skilled debater while she apparently interviews like a deer in
headlights.
You omit that she loses the women's rights vote, the
non-Christian-reich vote, the anti-government-scandal vote. And she
might even lose Alaska, since her popularity has been dropping like
that of other Republicans in the state.
---------------
Personally, I think it may come out that you were going to get your
wish regarding Jindal, and then Gustav messed up McCain's plans. It
is really hard to believe that she was McCain's first choice.
lojbab
Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
loj...@lojban.org Lojban language www.lojban.org
jissie
nation needs after 8 criminal years with your White house war
criminal.
SAY, IS McCAIN the father of Palin's latest child?
She has at least FIVE ... she's but another Repub gun-grasping,
religious-freaky, abortion foe -- with zero experience outside of the
delivery room!
So, did Mc"Cane" toss in the towel with the Palin pick? Are the
Repubs giving up?
He'd have done just as well picking a D.C. whore off of
14th Street. Which Palin might turn out to be, she being Republican.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article46...
As for those Clinton backers threatening to vote the McCain ticket, I
say --- BE MY GUEST! SUCKERS!
tvor
Get a grip! evangelical Christian votes aren't voting Dem just becaus the
Rep VP was in a beauty contest. That's absurd.
Baldin Lee Pramer
> The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> get the conservative vote). She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> resolve the oil shortage problem. She is young, which would off-set
> Obama. She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> have. She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> influence in education.
>
> positives I said about Pawlenty the other day with the positives I
> pointed out for Forena...and then some. However, the silence of the
> liberal media to her choice possibility is deafening.
No, there is no silence of the "liberal media". It is all over the
news. Are you *really* this ignorant? If so, it must be intentional
because you obviously have internet access.
Pramer
Bob LeChevalier
>this is it? This is what you will be criticizing her for?
>
>ALso, If the VP position is un-important, why all the disaffected Hillary
>voters?
Because most of them were crossover Republicans who weren't going to
vote for a Democrat anyway.
And to the extent that there was "disaffection" it was because they
thought that Hillary wasn't getting her due respect. Hillary will be
far more effective in the Senate.
>Why such an emphasis on "repairing the rift" between Obamma and the
>Clintons?
Image. The Dems need to LOOK united. And the media (and the
opposition) were focused on the possibility of a rift, so it had to be
dealt with strongly.
Bob LeChevalier
>A few more things about her. She was Miss Congeniality and 2nd place
>for being Miss Alaska, before her political career.
Maybe we should rethink the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue.
Do you really think this will endear her to women?
>She is married to a man that won the Iron Dog snowmobile race (2000 miles)
>in Alaska for 4 years.
Now that is a real qualification for VP - something her husband did.
>She has 80 percent support in her state,
Are there any numbers since she was embroiled in scandal?
>She was President of the Alaska Mayor's association, when she was Mayor.
And this is significant because ...
Cary Kittrell
Ah, but that's a good question, and the answer is not at all straightforward.
Traditionally: make sure the White House coffe pot is fresh. Meet
with mayors from towns under 5000. Participate in
photo-ops involving puppies.
Last eight years: run the world.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
Nope, I agree.
I'm mostly twitting Ken for his resolutely ingenuous style
of political "analysis".
(and, to a lesser degree, for his unabashed buffet-style Christianity)
-- cary
Bob LeChevalier
>Another note. She is very young. So, she could run as President in
>the future (against Clinton), whether McCain wins or not.
I actually don't think Clinton will run again. I think she will take
up Teddy's role as statesman of the Senate.
Cary Kittrell
> On Aug 29, 8:06=A0am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> > get the conservative vote). =A0She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> > resolve the oil shortage problem. =A0She is young, which would off-set
> > Obama. =A0She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> > have. =A0She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> > personal angel to her management of the war. =A0She has a child that his
> > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> > influence in education.
> >
> > positives I said about Pawlenty the other day with the positives I
> > liberal media to her choice possibility is deafening.
>
> No, there is no silence of the "liberal media". It is all over the
> news. Are you *really* this ignorant?
No, he's just "excitable". Very, very excitable.
Rather like the boy in the Warren Zevon song.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
>
> The_Carpathia <writi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >A few more things about her. She was Miss Congeniality and 2nd place
> >for being Miss Alaska, before her political career.
>
> Maybe we should rethink the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue.
>
> Do you really think this will endear her to women?
>
> >She is married to a man that won the Iron Dog snowmobile race (2000 miles)
> >in Alaska for 4 years.
>
> Now that is a real qualification for VP - something her husband did.
Ah, but THERE's your women's vote: it's a musher family -- and
up there there's a saying: "Alaska: where men are men and women
win the Iditarod".
-- cary
Bob LeChevalier
>> They also found this quote:
>
>> <Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility
>> < of becoming McCain ticket mate.
>
>> <Palin replied: “[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I
>> < still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what
>> < is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?
>
>Ah, but that's a good question, and the answer is not at all straightforward.
>
>Traditionally: make sure the White House coffe pot is fresh. Meet
> with mayors from towns under 5000.
Oops. Sounds like Palin is supremely qualified for those two.
>Participate in photo-ops involving puppies.
Per Kennie, they will involve huskies rather than puppies, but she
might be able to adapt.
>Last eight years: run the world.
On the other hand, THAT wouldn't be her forte.
John
> In article <3bf1c623-58fe-4957-bde0-10cd8d9e4...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 29, 8:06=A0am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> > > then...silence...from the left winged media. =A0Why? =A0Suddenly, Sarah
> > > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> > > She is a female....obviously. =A0She is pro-life and religious (would
> > > get the conservative vote). =A0She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> > > resolve the oil shortage problem. =A0She is young, which would off-set
> > > Obama. =A0She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> > > have. =A0She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> > > personal angel to her management of the war. =A0She has a child that his
> > > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> > > influence in education.
>
> > > I don't know if she will be selected or not. =A0She would combine the
> > > positives I said about Pawlenty the other day with the positives I
> > > pointed out for Forena...and then some. =A0However, the silence of the
> > > liberal media to her choice possibility is deafening.
>
> > No, there is no silence of the "liberal media". It is all over the
> > news. Are you *really* this ignorant?
>
> No, he's just "excitable". Very, very excitable.
>
> Rather like the boy in the Warren Zevon song.
>
> -- cary
Notice how Little Boy Spew has dropped out of this thread. Shame.
His arguments are so fatuous.
>
> If so, it must be intentional
>
>
>
> > because you obviously have internet access.
>
> > Pramer- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Cary Kittrell
> On Aug 29, 11:20=A0am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > In article <3bf1c623-58fe-4957-bde0-10cd8d9e4...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.=
> com> Baldin Lee Pramer <baldinleepra...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 29, 8:06=3DA0am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> Sarah
> > > > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> ld
> > > > get the conservative vote). =3DA0She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> > > > resolve the oil shortage problem. =3DA0She is young, which would off-=
> set
> > > > Obama. =3DA0She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ti=
> cket
> > > > have. =3DA0She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would ad=
> d a
> > > > personal angel to her management of the war. =3DA0She has a child tha=
> t his
> > > > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> > > > influence in education.
> >
> he
> > > > positives I said about Pawlenty the other day with the positives I
> the
> > > > liberal media to her choice possibility is deafening.
> >
> > > No, there is no silence of the "liberal media". It is all over the
> > > news. Are you *really* this ignorant?
> >
> >
> > Rather like the boy in the Warren Zevon song.
> >
> > -- cary
>
> Notice how Little Boy Spew has dropped out of this thread. Shame.
> His arguments are so fatuous.
Well, one aspect lf "excitable" is "distractable"...
-- cary
The_Carpathia
The_Carpathia
> In article <0941f31f-feeb-4afe-96ca-6e49fcf94...@73g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 29, 10:46=A0am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > > In article <11e8cdaf-ef18-427a-8cba-2b3329951...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups=
> > .com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> > > > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
>
> > > "leftwinged media"
>
> > > When did "wing" become a transitive verb?
>
> > > > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> > > > get the conservative vote). =A0She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> > > > resolve the oil shortage problem. =A0She is young, which would off-set
> > > > Obama. =A0She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> > > > have. =A0She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> > s
> > > > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> > > > influence in education.
>
> > > National Public Radio this morning, so in spite of the vast leftwinged
> > > conspiracy, patriotic right-thinking Public Broadcasting patriots
> > > are slipping the news past the evul librul news embargo.
>
> > > -- cary
>
> > vote, the soccor mom vote, the sports vote (former sportscaster), the
> > youth vote (younger than Obama), the special needs family vote (with
> > her youngest child), the economy vote, the energy needs vote, the war
> > vote (her child is there), etc.
>
> right now!
>
> -- cary
Against a woman?
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
The_Carpathia
> In article <48b82292$0$48215$815e3...@news.qwest.net> "tvor" <n...@home.com> writes:
>
> > "Cary Kittrell" <c...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
> >news:g996lr$nlh$1...@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
> > > In article
> > > <cecfd4d3-1621-44d1-962f-7f71672b1...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> John
I have no problem with it, but I guess you know what we conservatives
want. If it is as you claim, you have no problem and should be
cheering the ticket choice...right?
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
John
No I will vote against John McCain for the White House. He is still
the Republican nominee, isn't he? He hasn't resigned from the ticket
has he? Palin hasn't replaced him has she? This race is between
Obama and McCain, not Biden and Palin. The VP choice can either help
a little (Gore) or hurt a little (Quayle). McCain hurt himself a
little by choosing someone who most people will find out should not be
a heartbeat away from the Presidency. He was losing anyway, this pick
just sealed his fate.
The_Carpathia
> c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> >> They also found this quote:
>
> >> <Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility
> >> < of becoming McCain ticket mate.
>
> >> <Palin replied: “[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I
> >> < still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what
> >> < is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?
>
> >Ah, but that's a good question, and the answer is not at all straightforward.
>
> >Traditionally: make sure the White House coffe pot is fresh. Meet
> > with mayors from towns under 5000.
>
> Oops. Sounds like Palin is supremely qualified for those two.
>
Spoken like a true sexist. It's going to be enourmously funny to
watch the party that has been preaching affirmative action for Clinton
going out to tell all the women voters to NOT vote for elevation of
the only woman on either ticket.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
The_Carpathia
> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Another note. She is very young. So, she could run as President in
> >the future (against Clinton), whether McCain wins or not.
>
> I actually don't think Clinton will run again. I think she will take
> up Teddy's role as statesman of the Senate.
>
>
Good. Since the Democrats choose to jump over a VERY qualified woman
that was second in delegates and will be running an anti-woman
campaign from this point on...they were be disqualified from claiming
to be the woman's party.
I can just hear it...we are for the elevation of women, so vote
against that woman.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
The_Carpathia
> On Aug 29, 9:01 am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 29, 10:06 am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> > > then...silence...from the left winged media. Why? Suddenly, Sarah
> > > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> > > She is a female....obviously. She is pro-life and religious (would
> > > get the conservative vote). She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> > > resolve the oil shortage problem. She is young, which would off-set
> > > Obama. She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> > > have. She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> > > personal angel to her management of the war. She has a child that his
> > > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> > > influence in education.
>
> > > I don't know if she will be selected or not. She would combine the
> > > positives I said about Pawlenty the other day with the positives I
> > > pointed out for Forena...and then some. However, the silence of the
> > > liberal media to her choice possibility is deafening.
>
> > > Kenneth Clifton
> > > christiansuperhero.com
>
> > for being Miss Alaska,
>
> Presidency. I can see it now. "Madame Vice-President, President
> McCain has passed away. You're now the President." Oh please, can't
> it wait? I'm getting my nails done!"
Spoken like a true sexist. No wonder your party bypassed Clinton for
VP.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
The_Carpathia
There is one woman on either ticket for the White House. If you are
for elevation of women, you'd vote for Palin. If you refuse to vote
for her, you aren't really for elevation of women but want to use it
for party politics. If she is a heartbeat away, as you claim, she is
a heartbeat away from a WOMAN BEING PRESIDENT. Again, will you vote
against a woman for the White House? If so, you cannot claim to be
the party for elevation of women again (bypass a woman and then attack
a woman in the same election).
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
Cary Kittrell
> On Aug 29, 11:32=A0am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > In article <0941f31f-feeb-4afe-96ca-6e49fcf94...@73g2000hsx.googlegroups.=
> com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 29, 10:46=3DA0am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrot=
> e:
> > > > In article <11e8cdaf-ef18-427a-8cba-2b3329951...@x41g2000hsb.googlegr=
> oups=3D
> > > .com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> > > > > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> >
> > > > "leftwinged media"
> >
> > > > When did "wing" become a transitive verb?
> >
> > > > > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair=
> .
> > > > > She is a female....obviously. =3DA0She is pro-life and religious (w=
> ould
> > > > > get the conservative vote). =3DA0She is Gov of Alaska and could hel=
> p
> > > > > resolve the oil shortage problem. =3DA0She is young, which would of=
> f-set
> > > > > Obama. =3DA0She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC =
> ticket
> > > > > have. =3DA0She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would =
> add a
> > > > > personal angel to her management of the war. =3DA0She has a child t=
> hat hi=3D
> > > s
> > > > > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster h=
> er
> > > > > influence in education.
> >
> > > > Don't worry: I heard about her on staunchly conservative rightwinged
> d
> > > > conspiracy, patriotic right-thinking Public Broadcasting patriots
> > > > are slipping the news past the evul librul news embargo.
> >
> > > > -- cary
> >
> e
> > > vote, the soccor mom vote, the sports vote (former sportscaster), the
> > > youth vote (younger than Obama), the special needs family vote (with
> > > her youngest child), the economy vote, the energy needs vote, the war
> > > vote (her child is there), etc.
> >
> > Why you make me want to rush out and cast my vote for Vice President
> > right now!
> >
> > -- cary
>
> Against a woman?
Why not? I'm no chauvinist.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
> On Aug 29, 12:40=A0pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > In article <48b82292$0$48215$815e3...@news.qwest.net> "tvor" <n...@home.c=
> om> writes:
> >
> > > "Cary Kittrell" <c...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
> > >news:g996lr$nlh$1...@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
> > > > In article
> ohn
> > > > <dahlgren.j...@gmail.com> writes:
> > > >> On Aug 29, 8:55=3DA0am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >> > On Aug 29, 10:46=3DA0am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell)=
> wrote:
> >
> > > >> > > In article
> > > >> > > <11e8cdaf-ef18-427a-8cba-2b3329951...@x41g2000hsb.googlegrou=3D
> > > >> ps.com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> > > >> > > > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> >
> > > >> > > "leftwinged media"
> >
> > > >> > > When did "wing" become a transitive verb?
> >
> > > >> > > > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP
> > > >> > > > chair.
> us
> > > >> > > > (would
> > > >> > > > get the conservative vote). =3DA0She is Gov of Alaska and coul=
> d help
> > > >> > > > resolve the oil shortage problem. =3DA0She is young, which wou=
> ld
> > > >> > > > off-se=3D
> > > >> t
> > > >> > > > Obama. =3DA0She has executive experience, which neither on the=
> DNC
> > > >> > > > tick=3D
> > > >> et
> > > >> > > > have. =3DA0She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which w=
> ould
> > > >> > > > add =3D
> > > >> a
> > > >> > > > personal angel to her management of the war. =3DA0She has a ch=
> ild
> > > >> > > > that =3D
> > > >> his
> > > >> > > > handicapped and would need special education, which would bols=
> ter
> > > >> > > > her
> > > >> > > > influence in education.
> >
> nged
> > > >> > > National Public Radio this morning, so in spite of the vast
> > > >> > > leftwinged
> s
> > > >> > > are slipping the news past the evul librul news embargo.
> >
> > > >> > > -- cary
> >
> >
> > > >> Um, not at all. =A0Joe Biden will eat her alive.
> >
> > > >> >She wins the woman vote,
> >
> >
> > > >> >the conservative
> > > >> > vote,
> >
> > > >> Why? =A0Just because she's a woman? =A0Even though Evangelicals have=
> a
> > > >> history of believing that a woman's place is subverient to man?
> >
> at
> > > > she's not only worn pearls and gold, but that she's even
> > > > Christian women are to do.
> >
> > > > -- cary
> >
> >
> > Me? =A0She can wear ermine and fishnet; such things are
> > irrelevant to me.
> >
> > Not, however, to evangelical Christians. =A0Or more precisely,
> > not to such evangelical Christians as refrain from picking and
> > choosing among the convenient and inconvenient strictures
> > of the New Testament.
> >
> >
> >
> ry
> > > voters? =A0Why such an emphasis on "repairing the rift" between Obamma =
> and the
> > > Clintons?
> >
> > Her followers are disconsolate mostly over the fact that she
> > lost the nomination, not that she was passed over for vice
> > president.
> >
> > Me, I think she would have considerably strengthened the ticket.
> > But then, I'm not the one who would be sharing the office
> > with the Clintons, were the Deomcrats to win.
> >
> > -- cary
>
> I have no problem with it,
With which? I made three separate points, above.
> but I guess you know what we conservatives want
> If it is as you claim, you have no problem and should be
> cheering the ticket choice...right?
Absolutely. I was happy for Geraldine too, back in the day.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
> On Aug 29, 1:33=A0pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
> > c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > >> They also found this quote:
> >
> bility
> > >> < of becoming McCain ticket mate.
> >
> ou, I
> > >> < still can=92t answer that question until somebody answers for me wha=
> t
> > >> < is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?
> >
> ward.
> >
> > >Traditionally: make sure the White House coffe pot is fresh. =A0Meet
> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 with mayors from towns under 5000.
> >
> > Oops. =A0Sounds like Palin is supremely qualified for those two.
> >
>
> Spoken like a true sexist. It's going to be enourmously funny to
> watch the party that has been preaching affirmative action for Clinton
> going out to tell all the women voters to NOT vote for elevation of
> the only woman on either ticket.
Why?
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
> On Aug 29, 1:20=A0pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
> > The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >the future (against Clinton), whether McCain wins or not.
> >
> > up Teddy's role as statesman of the Senate.
> >
> >
>
> Good. Since the Democrats choose to jump over a VERY qualified woman
> that was second in delegates and will be running an anti-woman
> campaign from this point on...they were be disqualified from claiming
> to be the woman's party.
>
> I can just hear it...we are for the elevation of women, so vote
> against that woman.
Because, as we all can plainly see, all other issues -- the war,
the other war, the economy, the future of energy, mortgage
foreclosures, forty million without health insurance,
continuation of failed policies -- have evaporated like the dew,
leaving only the gender of the second spot the ticket for deciding
how to cast one's vote.
-- cary
Crecentius Vespasianus
> from a remote state?
How many times have you been to Delaware?
John
Sexist? No. Just anti-beauty queen. Your team picks a beauty queen
because of Obama's popularity.
John
Your reasoning is full of holes. If I'm for the elevation I'm going
to vote for the party who offers the most chance for women to get the
reforms needed. Think of the word "conservative." The American
Heritage Dictionary defines "conservative" as Favoring traditional
views and values; tending to oppose change. So should I vote for a
movement that favors keeping things as they are or should I vote for a
movement favoring liberalizing the laws that keep women from achieving
their highest rewards? Easy choice.
>If you refuse to vote
> for her, you aren't really for elevation of women but want to use it
> for party politics.
Okay. So McCain put Palin on the ticket because she was the most
qualified person for the job. He did not do it for politics--even
though you've already said he did.
>If she is a heartbeat away, as you claim, she is
> a heartbeat away from a WOMAN BEING PRESIDENT.
She is a heartbeat away from being the MOST INEXPERIENCED President in
history. Even Lincoln had more experience than she does.
>Again, will you vote
> against a woman for the White House?
A woman is not running for the White House.
>If so, you cannot claim to be
> the party for elevation of women again (bypass a woman and then attack
> a woman in the same election).
Your logic is circular. Look it up.
John
wrote:
> not an inexperienced person> from a remote state?
>
> --------
> How many times have you been to Delaware?
Um, Delaware isn't considered "remote." Small, maybe. But many, many
corporations are organized in Delaware since they have pretty liberal
laws. Can Alaska say that? I live in Wyoming and we're remote, but
not as remote as Alaska. If you think Delaware is remote, then you
have problems with geography. (And you don't have to cross another
country to drive into Delaware.)
Dennis Kemmerer
news:522399d6-45bf-484f...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
[snip]
Sexist? No. Just anti-beauty queen. Your team picks a beauty queen
because of Obama's popularity.
----------
I think it was more about pandering to the religious right. Palin's
anti-same-sex marriage and anti-choice positions are far more important to
that small-minded group than her qualifications for taking over the
presidency or her views on economic or foreign policy issues.
Bob LeChevalier
18 million Democrats voted against Hillary, who was FAR more qualified
than Palin.
And Palin isn't in fact running for the White House, except as backup
for if the old guy dies. Otherwise she is running for the Navel
Observatory (a fitting goal perhaps for a former beauty queen).
Bob LeChevalier
>> > Ok. Now, will you vote against a woman for the White House?
>>
>> No I will vote against John McCain for the White House. He is still
>> the Republican nominee, isn't he? He hasn't resigned from the ticket
>> has he? Palin hasn't replaced him has she? This race is between
>> Obama and McCain, not Biden and Palin. The VP choice can either help
>> a little (Gore) or hurt a little (Quayle). McCain hurt himself a
>> little by choosing someone who most people will find out should not be
>> a heartbeat away from the Presidency. He was losing anyway, this pick
>> just sealed his fate.
>
>There is one woman on either ticket for the White House. If you are
>for elevation of women, you'd vote for Palin.
Actually not. Her election wouldn't elevate women at all. It would
elevate the concept of tokenism and pandering to women.
>If you refuse to vote for her, you aren't really for elevation of women
Or perhaps you are for the elevation of ALL women rather than
elevation of one woman as a token while shoving down all the other
women in the country.
>but want to use it for party politics.
That is precisely why McCain chose her.
>If she is a heartbeat away, as you claim, she is
>a heartbeat away from a WOMAN BEING PRESIDENT.
She is also a heartbeat away from being an anti-abortion, creationist
lightweight scandal-ridden nonentity being president.
>Again, will you vote against a woman for the White House?
If that is the woman, probably.
>If so, you cannot claim to be the party for elevation of women
I claim to be me, not a party.
>again (bypass a woman and then attack a woman in the same election).
The same party seems to have bypassed a lot of men while attacking a
man. Does this mean that it is anti-men?
Bob LeChevalier
>On Aug 29, 1:33 pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
>> c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
>> >> They also found this quote:
>>
>> >> <Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility
>> >> < of becoming McCain ticket mate.
>>
>> >> <Palin replied: “[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I
>> >> < still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what
>> >> < is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?
>>
>> >Ah, but that's a good question, and the answer is not at all straightforward.
>>
>> >Traditionally: make sure the White House coffe pot is fresh. Meet
>> > with mayors from towns under 5000.
>>
>> Oops. Sounds like Palin is supremely qualified for those two.
>
>Spoken like a true sexist.
No. Just noting that she is qualified for PART of the traditional job
description of a Vice President, as suggested by someone else.
I've also said that she is qualified for the constitutional
description of the office of Vice President.
On the other hand, women aren't fungible (except for those who only
use them as tokens and sex objects), and there are a lot of women who
can look at Palin and say "I *know* Hillary Clinton, and you're no
Hillary Clinton."
>It's going to be enourmously funny to
>watch the party that has been preaching affirmative action for Clinton
>going out to tell all the women voters to NOT vote for elevation of
>the only woman on either ticket.
It's going to be enormously funny watching the Republicans defend
against precisely the same attacks that they've been offering against
Obama for the last month.
Cary Kittrell
"Governor, I knew Geraldine Ferraro. Geraldine Ferraro was
a friend of mine. And Governor...".
-- cary
Bob LeChevalier
>On Aug 29, 1:20 pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
>> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Another note. She is very young. So, she could run as President in
>> >the future (against Clinton), whether McCain wins or not.
>>
>> I actually don't think Clinton will run again. I think she will take
>> up Teddy's role as statesman of the Senate.
>
>Good. Since the Democrats choose to jump over a VERY qualified woman
Hillary probably would appreciate your comment if it were sincere, but
since we know what you would have said if she had actually been
nominated, I'll simply call you a liar.
>that was second in delegates and will be running an anti-woman
>campaign from this point on.
Not hardly. They will be running an anti-third-Bush-term campaign
from this point on, and Palin offers only more ammunition. After all,
Bush has a lot token women in his administration who have screwed up
their jobs. Attacking that ideologue who screened out lawyers
applying for the justice department for political reasons, is not
anti-woman, just because the law-breaking perp happens to be an adult
female.
>they were be disqualified from claiming to be the woman's party.
I don't know any party that was claiming to be the woman's party.
I think that the Democrats may have some argument for being the
women's rights party, or the women's equality party, but even that
isn't their primary identity.
Dom
> The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> then...silence...from the left winged media. Why? Suddenly, Sarah
> Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> She is a female....obviously. She is pro-life and religious (would
> get the conservative vote). She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> resolve the oil shortage problem. She is young, which would off-set
> Obama. She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> have. She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> personal angel to her management of the war. She has a child that his
> handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> influence in education.
The notion of a "liberal media" is as nonsensical as the claim that
the Reagan-Bush-Bush crowd is "conservative." If John McCain had not
been smeared by the Rove-Bush establishment Republicans in 2000, it is
very likely that McCain would have won by a landslide. There would
have been no reason for the Supreme Court to appoint the current
occupant of the White House. The neocons would not have highjacked the
U.S. government, and the U.S. armed forces would not have been misused
for their reckless, irresponsible adventure in Iraq. Clueless
Condoleezza Rice would not have been put in charge of National
Security, and quite possibly the 9-11 attacks might have been
prevented.
The questions that are being raised about Palin's qualifications to be
President are quite laughable, in view of the complete lack of
qualifications of the current occupant.
Steve Thomas
> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe we should rethink the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue.
>
> Do you really think this will endear her to women?
>
> >She is married to a man that won the Iron Dog snowmobile race (2000 miles)
> >in Alaska for 4 years.
>
> Now that is a real qualification for VP - something her husband did.
>
> >She has 80 percent support in her state,
>
> Are there any numbers since she was embroiled in scandal?
>
> >She was President of the Alaska Mayor's association, when she was Mayor.
>
> And this is significant because ...
Obama was a fucking community organizer hahahahahah, and a tool of
the corrupt Chicago political machine.
johac
ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org>
> >
> > The_Carpathia <writi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >She is the pick. Scared?
> >
> > Not hardly. If I though experience as important as you did a couple
> > days ago, I would be. But I think she is at least 35 and natural born
> > and therefore minimally qualified. But really truly minimally.
> >
> > And if you think that she scares the left, you should see how dailykos
> > is laughing at McCain:
> >
> > www.dailykos.com
> > <By picking Palin, McCain revealed his desperation to make a splash to
> > < rival the genuine excitement generated by the Obama campaign. But
> > < desperation leads to poor decisions -- and McCain's Hail Mary, like
> > < most last second desperation moves, is destined to fail miserably.
> > < He's smeared himself with the pungent mud of Alaska Republican
> > < corruption, while cutting the legs out from one of his most reliable
> > < attacks against Obama. And he's presented Americans with the
> > < prospect of electing a dangerous neophyte to be a heartbeat away from
> > < the presidency, behind a man whose life expectancy is less than two
> > < presidential terms.
> > <
> > <We all expected McCain to pick someone underwhelming to run with him.
> > < But we never could have expected a pick worse than Quayle. Yet
> > < that's what we got. Thanks, John
> >
> > and
> > <The Sarah Quayle////// Palin pick is an abandonment of the "Obama is
> > < not ready to lead" attack lines. Those are dead, and to be honest,
> > < while that line didn't work for Hillary and it had limited traction
> > < for McCain, it still had some traction. That attack line is gone.
> > <
> > <Quayle Palin is also a an ideologue, on choice, on the environment, on
> > < energy -- all the way down the line. This an ideological pick in an
> > < election where self-identified Republicans are a dying breed and
> > < Democratic self-identification is skyrocketing. McCain has abandoned
> > < any notion of playing for the center. He's looking to shore up his
> > < right flank and hoping that the Evangelical Right can somehow drag
> > < McCain over the line.
> >
>
>
> > They also found this quote:
>
> > <Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility
> > < of becoming McCain ticket mate.
>
> > <Palin replied: “[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I
> > < still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what
> > < is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?
>
> Ah, but that's a good question, and the answer is not at all straightforward.
>
> Traditionally: make sure the White House coffe pot is fresh. Meet
> with mayors from towns under 5000. Participate in
> photo-ops involving puppies.
I forget who said it and I can't find the origin of the quote, but I
recall it as: "The only duties of the Vice President is to inquire as to
the health of the President once a day and to go to the funerals of
third world dictators."
>
> Last eight years: run the world.
>
>
> -- cary
>
--
John #1782
Bob LeChevalier
>On Aug 30, 12:17 am, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
>> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >A few more things about her. She was Miss Congeniality and 2nd place
>> >for being Miss Alaska, before her political career.
>>
>> Maybe we should rethink the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue.
>>
>> Do you really think this will endear her to women?
>>
>> >She is married to a man that won the Iron Dog snowmobile race (2000 miles)
>> >in Alaska for 4 years.
>>
>> Now that is a real qualification for VP - something her husband did.
>>
>> >She has 80 percent support in her state,
>>
>> Are there any numbers since she was embroiled in scandal?
>>
>> >She was President of the Alaska Mayor's association, when she was Mayor.
>>
>> And this is significant because ...
>
> Obama was a fucking community organizer hahahahahah, and a tool of
>the corrupt Chicago political machine.
Obama organized a presidential campaign from scratch, turned it into
an army of workers, is overseeing a budget of a half-billion dollars
of campaign contributions, setting down policies while also providing
"the vision thing", managed numerous crises during his campaign, and
then defeated his opponents and brought them together in support of
his candidacy. And he hasn't during this period shown himself to be
the "tool" of anyone.
The_Carpathia
Wasn't that Hillary's campaign message?
Regardless. I'll leave it up to women to decide if electing a woman
or keeping a woman from excelling is supporting women. Obama appars
to disagree with th e posters on here, since he reprimanded his staff
for their earlier criticism. He obviously figured out the threat he
faces, if he attacks a woman having passed over a woman. But, you
guys go ahead and disagree with your candidate and show your true
sexist colors. I'm not even going to reply any more to this specific
thread, since your words are the best case I can make.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
John
> "John" <dahlgren.j...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Agreed. But with her lack of experience, she'll be a drag on the
ticket.
John
Or since you've been made a fool of once again. Bye-bye Kenny-boy.
WBY...@ireland.com
<writi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>She is the pick. Scared? She wins the woman vote, the conservative
>vote, the soccor mom vote, the sports vote (former sportscaster), the
>youth vote (younger than Obama), the special needs family vote (with
>her youngest child), the economy vote, the energy needs vote, the war
>vote (her child is there), etc.
>
>Kenneth Clifton
>christiansuperhero.com
The only vote she might win is the conservative vote. If she was going
to win all the other folks, she should have been the nominee. She will
NOT win the women's vote or any other block you mentioned save MAYBE
the soccer mom's votes. Stupid is as stupid does.
WB Yeats
Bob
news:77oib4ljeh9s7grpa...@4ax.com...
I believe the Republican ticket is much more appealing
to independents than the Democratic ticket. The Dems
have nominated two far left party loyalists. The Reps
have nominated two people who are not afraid to oppose
their own party when the party position conflicts with their
principles.
WBY...@ireland.com
McCain has gone back on all the principles he espoused on the Straight
Talk Express. He even made up with the bozos at Bob Young and with the
other fundies. To feel that there has been a sea change in the
Republican Party or its candidates is just untrue - McCain voted with
Bush about 95% of the time. The country should steer clear of McSame.
WB Yeats
Bob LeChevalier
Look at McCain's comments about the Christian reich in 2000. Look at
the pandering he's been doing now. Either his principles have changed
(not likely), or he is indeed "afraid to oppose" that nutwing branch
of the party.
Larry Hewitt
"Bob LeChevalier" <loj...@lojban.org> wrote in message
news:vo6jb4pa9tmeq5orc...@4ax.com...
And Palin is solidly in the Christian Reich camp.
Already anti-choice organization are cheering her and getting behind McCain.
Larry
graysh...@gmail.com
(in article
<93f34ed5-2e7f-4938...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>):
> On Aug 29, 10:06 am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
>> then...silence...from the left winged media. Why? Suddenly, Sarah
>> Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
>> She is a female....obviously. She is pro-life and religious (would
>> get the conservative vote). She is Gov of Alaska and could help
>> resolve the oil shortage problem. She is young, which would off-set
>> Obama. She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
>> have. She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
>> personal angel to her management of the war. She has a child that his
>> handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
>> influence in education.
>>
>> I don't know if she will be selected or not. She would combine the
>> positives I said about Pawlenty the other day with the positives I
>> pointed out for Forena...and then some. However, the silence of the
>> liberal media to her choice possibility is deafening.
>>
>> Kenneth Clifton
>> christiansuperhero.com
>
> One note: It doesn't have to be Palin. I think she would be a great
> pick,
Me, too; me, too! She's a /wonderful/ choice. I can't think of anyone I'd
be happier to see as Future President John "Bush3" McMental's partner in
slime.
> . . . but any woman leader that is pro-life
"pro-life"?
You mean, of course, pro-illegal abortion. The sign of legal abortion is the
caduceus; the sign of illegal abortion is a bent coat hanger.
I still remember 22-23 year old grandmothers.
I hope you're aren't going to complain when social services taxes go up by 40
or 50 per cent (100%?). You ask for it and win, you pay the bill.
You do seem to think that there /is/ such a thing as a "free lunch".
Unwanted children tend to be part of "the criminal class". You don't mind if
we raise taxes by very significant amounts to build more and bigger jails and
more and stronger police forces, doyounow?
And, then, of course, we're going to need new schools for "Baby Boomer II -
The Movie" participants.
She's got a real nowhere bridge,
Not sitting in her Nowhere Land,
Making all her nowhere plans
for nobody.
- A Song From My Childhood
When you're down and out,
When you're at the Observatory,
When evening comes &
John McCain falls so hard,
No one will comfort you.
No one will take your part.
When darkness comes
And Karl Rove is all around,
Like a bridge to exactly nowhere,
You will lay an egg.
Like a bridge to exactly nowhere,
You will lay an egg.
- A Song From My Childhood
John McBush is the answer.
Someone to serve is the answer.
Once you've found him,
Destroy the world around him.
Make someone else's war.
Make just one person's war.
And you will be killing, too.
- [And Good night, Mrs. Calabash,
wherever you are.]
> would kill the Obama ticket at this point.
Yeah, but they still had 83,999 tickets so it went unnoticed
> Kenneth Clifton
Apparently eight years of Bush wasn't enough for you.
You just can't stop worshipping the torturers and war criminals.
I find it impossible to think of anyone who has supported George Wc Bush for
the last seven years and advocates the election of the damaged mind and the
virgin of experience as honorable.
"Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of
decency?"
Gray Shockley
---------------------
... a government committed to a policy of
improving the nation by improving the
condition of some of the individuals will
eventually run into trouble in attempting
to distinguish between a national good
and a chocolate sundae. - E. B. White
graysh...@gmail.com
> The_Carpathia <writi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Another note. She is very young. So, she could run as President in
>> the future (against Clinton), whether McCain wins or not.
>
> I actually don't think Clinton will run again. I think she will take
> up Teddy's role as statesman of the Senate.
There are nine jobs in D.C. that are more powerful than Senator or President.
And she - if I recall correctly - graduated #1 in her class at Yale Law.
Dontchaknow . . .
Gray Shockley
--------------------------------------------------------
Life isn't about how to survive the storm,
but how to dance in the rain.
--Author Unknown
graysh...@gmail.com
(in article
<cc1d1546-5b8a-4085...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>):
> On Aug 29, 10:24 am, John <dahlgren.j...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 29, 8:11 am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 29, 10:06 am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
>>>> then...silence...from the left winged media. Why? Suddenly, Sarah
>>>> Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
>>>> She is a female....obviously. She is pro-life and religious (would
>>>> get the conservative vote). She is Gov of Alaska and could help
>>>> resolve the oil shortage problem. She is young, which would off-set
>>>> Obama. She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
>>>> have. She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
>>>> personal angel to her management of the war. She has a child that his
>>>> handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
>>>> influence in education.
>>
>>>> I don't know if she will be selected or not. She would combine the
>>>> positives I said about Pawlenty the other day with the positives I
>>>> pointed out for Forena...and then some. However, the silence of the
>>>> liberal media to her choice possibility is deafening.
>>
>>>> Kenneth Clifton
>>>> christiansuperhero.com
>>
>>> One note: It doesn't have to be Palin. I think she would be a great
>>> pick, but any woman leader that is pro-life would kill the Obama
>>> ticket at this point.
>>
>> Or not, as the case may be. You're going to vote for McCain anyway so
>> why not want him to choose a strong VP, not an inexperienced person
>> from a remote state?
>>
>>
>>
>>> Kenneth Clifton
>>> christiansuperhero.com- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> OH? Experience is important? Keep that in mind consideing McCain vs.
> Obama.
It's worth noting that McCain appears to be mentally ill.
However, the reason - apparently - that so many of the higher ranking Navy
and Marine officers hate / are scared of McCain is because of his temper.
Many, many military and next of kin folks (MIA/POW) also hate McCain's guts
(such as they might be).
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
Gray Shockley
-------------------
"Swinehood hath no remedy." - Sidney Lanier
>
> Kenneth Clifton
> christiansuperhero.com
65ja...@gmail.com
> <WBYe...@Ireland.com> wrote in message
>
> news:77oib4ljeh9s7grpa...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:55:16 -0700 (PDT), The_Carpathia
> > <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>She is the pick. Scared? She wins the woman vote, the conservative
> >>vote, the soccor mom vote, the sports vote (former sportscaster), the
> >>youth vote (younger than Obama), the special needs family vote (with
> >>her youngest child), the economy vote, the energy needs vote, the war
> >>vote (her child is there), etc.
>
> >>Kenneth Clifton
> >>christiansuperhero.com
>
> > The only vote she might win is the conservative vote. If she was going
> > to win all the other folks, she should have been the nominee. She will
> > NOT win the women's vote or any other block you mentioned save MAYBE
> > the soccer mom's votes. Stupid is as stupid does.
>
> I believe the Republican ticket is much more appealing
> to independents than the Democratic ticket. The Dems
> have nominated two far left party loyalists.
here you go again... Talking about things you don't know Bob: next to
you, everyone is a socialist.
If you seriously think that Obama and BIden are "far left", then
you're dumber than I though... which is quite a feat I must admit.
graysh...@gmail.com
(in article
<61e0cebf-729d-4a97...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>):
> On Aug 29, 11:59 am, John <dahlgren.j...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So you're saying experience is NOT important? Remember that when you
>> cast your vote between McCain and Obama.
>>
>
> Ok. Now, will you vote against a woman for the White House?
Uh, dummie . . .
That would be the Naval Observatory.
The White House would be "just another house" for the crazy McCain who
appears to combine the intelligence of George Wc Bush and the ethics of
Richard "Les" Cheney.
It's going to be "interesting" to see if the Republican party self-destructs.
Conservatives are no longer in charge of it; Irving Kristol lives.
Gray Shockley
----------------------------
A M-79 in the hand is worth
- uh - well - a buncha stuff.
>
> Kenneth Clifton
> christiansuperhero.com
graysh...@gmail.com
Unless, of course, you're suggesting that wacko McCain is going to commit
adultery with this wife as he did to his first wife.
graysh...@gmail.com
(in article
<306d903d-b599-49cc...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>):
> No I will vote against John McCain for the White House. He is still
> the Republican nominee, isn't he? He hasn't resigned from the ticket
> has he? Palin hasn't replaced him has she? This race is between
> Obama and McCain, not Biden and Palin. The VP choice can either help
> a little (Gore) or hurt a little (Quayle). McCain hurt himself a
> little by choosing someone who most people will find out should not be
> a heartbeat away from the Presidency. He was losing anyway, this pick
> just sealed his fate.
I still think that Crazy McCain is going to self-destruct.
/ Gray /
graysh...@gmail.com
(in article
<191f10a0-d077-4ab9...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>):
> On Aug 29, 1:33 pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
>> c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
>>>> They also found this quote:
>>
>>>> <Larry Kudlow of CNBC s Kudlow & Co. asked her about the possibility
>>>> < of becoming McCain ticket mate.
>>
>>>> <Palin replied: [A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I ll tell you, I
>>>> < still can t answer that question until somebody answers for me what
>>>> < is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?
>>
>>> Ah, but that's a good question, and the answer is not at all
>>> straightforward.
>>
>>> Traditionally: make sure the White House coffe pot is fresh. Meet
>>> with mayors from towns under 5000.
>>
>> Oops. Sounds like Palin is supremely qualified for those two.
>>
>
> Spoken like a true sexist. It's going to be enourmously funny to
> watch the party that has been preaching affirmative action for Clinton
Your trousers are afire.
Gray Shockley
-------------------
"Swinehood hath no remedy." - Sidney Lanier
> going out to tell all the women voters to NOT vote for elevation of
> the only woman on either ticket.
>
> Kenneth Clifton
> christiansuperhero.com
graysh...@gmail.com
(in article <77oib4ljeh9s7grpa...@4ax.com>):
Ah; an elitist.
Gray Shockley
----------------------------
If you don¹t stand for
something, you just
might fall for anything.
Cary Kittrell
> On Aug 29, 4:38=A0pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > In article <6e5bcbea-1bf5-47ea-9afc-6134facbc...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups=
> .com> The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 29, 1:20=3DA0pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
> > > > The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ident in
> > > > >the future (against Clinton), whether McCain wins or not.
> >
> take
> > > > up Teddy's role as statesman of the Senate.
> >
> > > that was second in delegates and will be running an anti-woman
> > > campaign from this point on...they were be disqualified from claiming
> > > to be the woman's party.
> >
> > > I can just hear it...we are for the elevation of women, so vote
> > > against that woman.
> >
> > Because, as we all can plainly see, all other issues -- the war,
> > the other war, the economy, the future of energy, mortgage
> > foreclosures, forty million without health insurance,
> > continuation of failed policies -- have evaporated like the dew,
> > leaving only the gender of the second spot the ticket for deciding
> > how to cast one's vote.
> >
> > -- cary
>
> Wasn't that Hillary's campaign message?
Only if you weren't listening to anything she said about
the war, the other war, the economy, the future of energy, mortgage
foreclosures, forty million without health insurance,
and the continuation of failed policies.
>
> Regardless. I'll leave it up to women to decide if electing a woman
> or keeping a woman from excelling is supporting women. Obama appars
> to disagree with th e posters on here, since he reprimanded his staff
> for their earlier criticism. He obviously figured out the threat he
> faces, if he attacks a woman having passed over a woman. But, you
> guys go ahead and disagree with your candidate and show your true
> sexist colors.
While, according to your "logic", you continue to show your
true racist colors.
And to think that just last week I defended you against a
charge of racism...
-- cry
John
> John wrote:
> >On Aug 29, 2:21 pm, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Aug 29, 11:56 am, John <dahlgren.j...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Aug 29, 9:01 am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Aug 29, 10:06 am, The_Carpathia <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > The internet and media chatter grew hotter and hotter and
> >> > > > then...silence...from the left winged media. Why? Suddenly, Sarah
> >> > > > Palin was left as one of the remaining people circling the VP chair.
> >> > > > She is a female....obviously. She is pro-life and religious (would
> >> > > > get the conservative vote). She is Gov of Alaska and could help
> >> > > > resolve the oil shortage problem. She is young, which would off-set
> >> > > > Obama. She has executive experience, which neither on the DNC ticket
> >> > > > have. She has a son that is going to war in Iraq, which would add a
> >> > > > personal angel to her management of the war. She has a child that his
> >> > > > handicapped and would need special education, which would bolster her
> >> > > > influence in education.
>
> >> > > > I don't know if she will be selected or not. She would combine the
> >> > > > positives I said about Pawlenty the other day with the positives I
> >> > > > pointed out for Forena...and then some. However, the silence of the
> >> > > > liberal media to her choice possibility is deafening.
>
> >> > > > Kenneth Clifton
> >> > > > christiansuperhero.com
>
> >> > > for being Miss Alaska,
>
> >> > Presidency. I can see it now. "Madame Vice-President, President
> >> > McCain has passed away. You're now the President." Oh please, can't
> >> > it wait? I'm getting my nails done!"
>
> >> Spoken like a true sexist. No wonder your party bypassed Clinton for
> >> VP.
>
> >Sexist? No. Just anti-beauty queen. Your team picks a beauty queen
> >because of Obama's popularity.
>
I'm neither and still an Obama supporter. And Palin is only popular
among those who want to limit American's rights and among those who
think anyone who doesn't look like them is a terrorist.
>
> Q: Why is an Arab-American is so popular among leftists?
>
> A: Because they detest American-Americans
Why is a Nazi-American so popular among right-wingers?
Because they detest American-Americans.
>
> So why are 93% of negroes pro-Arab-American?
>
> Jd- Hide quoted text -
graysh...@gmail.com
(in article <3ok3c4d1g5en931s1...@4ax.com>):
> Bob LeChevalier wrote:
>
>> The_Carpathia <writi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Ok. Now, will you vote against a woman for the White House?
>>>>
>>>> No I will vote against John McCain for the White House. He is still
>>>> the Republican nominee, isn't he? He hasn't resigned from the ticket
>>>> has he? Palin hasn't replaced him has she? This race is between
>>>> Obama and McCain, not Biden and Palin. The VP choice can either help
>>>> a little (Gore) or hurt a little (Quayle). McCain hurt himself a
>>>> little by choosing someone who most people will find out should not be
>>>> a heartbeat away from the Presidency. He was losing anyway, this pick
>>>> just sealed his fate.
>>>
>>> There is one woman on either ticket for the White House. If you are
>>> for elevation of women, you'd vote for Palin.
>>
>> Actually not. Her election wouldn't elevate women at all. It would
>> elevate the concept of tokenism and pandering to women.
>>
>>> If you refuse to vote for her, you aren't really for elevation of women
>>
>> Or perhaps you are for the elevation of ALL women rather than
>> elevation of one woman as a token while shoving down all the other
>> women in the country.
>>
>>> but want to use it for party politics.
>>
>> That is precisely why McCain chose her.
>
> Perhaps like you, McCain is psychic.
You misspelled "psycho".
Gray
>
> "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and
> there is none else."
> (Isaiah 45:22)
>
> Jd
>
John Q Public
> Your problem not mine. If McCocain wins the catholic cult just may very
> well fill it's pews again.
> Nevermind. Go back to watching TV.
>
> ZFire
Its so refreshing hear the left defend all women, sneering at the
60-70% who don't hold
the party line with NOW and assuming the 30% or so that do are
representational of the
whole country.
Guess thats why they keep winning them elections or has NOW taught them
to be big boys and
not whine about it for the next 4 years!
Gray Shockley
(in article <2008091223415675249-interjecting@2centscom>):
But we're "a nation of whiners".
Stated by the, then, co-chair of the campaign to elect a punk President.
Gray Shockley
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