Availability of Lagavulin
Christian Probst
We had in the last time delivery problems of Lagavulin (16 yrs., Classic-
Malt- Series). The Whisky is nearly unavailable yet.
Does anybody know why? Is this a Problem of the Destillery, or it it just a
specific german dealer- problem?
Greetings and thanks,
Christian Probst
Bochum, Germany
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mhicaoidh
|
| Hi!
| We had in the last time delivery problems of Lagavulin (16 yrs., Classic-
| Malt- Series). The Whisky is nearly unavailable yet.
| Does anybody know why? Is this a Problem of the Destillery, or it it just
| a specific german dealer- problem?
Prost! Seems I remember hearing some time back that there was a
reduction in production of Lagavulin and Oban in the 80s. They started
producing again in the early 90s, but the result is that the result would be
a shortage of Lagavulin 16 and Oban 14 supplies while they recover the gap.
It was projected that the shortage would show up over the next four years
(starting in 2002), and then return to normal (around 2006). Working from
memory, so I'm not sure how accurate the dates are.
Liquorama Fine Wines & Spirits
Lagavulin. We have gone out of stock twice for a short period of time, and
have been given the word that it will be out of stock for longer in the near
future.
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Andreas Gugau
>
> | We had in the last time delivery problems of Lagavulin (16 yrs., Classic-
> | Malt- Series). The Whisky is nearly unavailable yet.
> | Does anybody know why? Is this a Problem of the Destillery, or it it just
> | a specific german dealer- problem?
> Prost! Seems I remember hearing some time back that there was a
> reduction in production of Lagavulin and Oban in the 80s. They started
> producing again in the early 90s, but the result is that the result would be
> a shortage of Lagavulin 16 and Oban 14 supplies while they recover the gap.
> It was projected that the shortage would show up over the next four years
> (starting in 2002), and then return to normal (around 2006). Working from
> memory, so I'm not sure how accurate the dates are.
You're right with the dates. It was expected that Lagavulin will start
using older barrels, just the way Ardbeg does, but at the moment, the 16
y.o. is nearly unavailable. Two choices for a younger ones: Lagavulin
12, Cask Strength. I haven't tried it yet but I've heard that ist has
some more muscles than the 16 yo. And "The Ileach" which is about 8 yo,
a wild one. Fuaran Ile isn't my choice, but also a heavy Islay whisky.
And btw. Ardbeg is currently bottling whiskies distilles in 1979 and
even 1978 in it's 17 years old.
Andreas
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Jason
"Andreas Gugau" <postm...@andreas-gugau.de> wrote in message
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> mhicaoidh wrote:
> >
>
> You're right with the dates. It was expected that Lagavulin will start
> using older barrels, just the way Ardbeg does, but at the moment, the 16
> y.o. is nearly unavailable. Two choices for a younger ones: Lagavulin
> 12, Cask Strength. I haven't tried it yet but I've heard that ist has
> some more muscles than the 16 yo.
That wasn't my impression when I tried it. An extremely nice malt - as you'd
expect from a Lagavulin - and certainly plenty of alcohol strength (by
definition), but much less peat than the 16yo. That lets a host of other
flavours through, so it's still a very satisfying experience. Well worth a
try, but, nevertheless, "more muscles" is not really the description I'd
give it.
Johanna
bottling. I guess everyone has a different palate. I'd be interested in hearing
other opinions of Lagavulin 12 year old -- so far the Lag fans I've spoken with
like this better than the 16 year old which many thought was dumbing down.
Johanna
Mark K
sherry (unlike OB 16), just lots of sweet malt and smoke. More power than
OB 16, and not just owing to its greater abv. I find Lagavulin of all
stripes more smoky than turfy, and OB 12 is no exception. Perhaps my
familiarity with OB 16 has bred contempt, as I am one who thinks it not as
complex or powerful as it once was. I like OB 12 a lot. OB 25 is a more
mature version of 12, rather than the (sherry influenced) 16. Not sure 25
is worth the extra cost, however.
Mark K
"Johanna" <joh...@singleminded.ca> wrote in message
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Brett...
> mhicaoidh wrote:
>
> You're right with the dates. It was expected that Lagavulin will start
> using older barrels, just the way Ardbeg does, but at the moment, the
> 16 y.o. is nearly unavailable.
Not in the UK it isn't. Makro have shelves of it at £22 a bottle.
--
Brett
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over there and write misspelled words on them.
Jason
Sorry if I offended! Actually, I think your description of it being the
Lagavulin equivalent of Laphroaig cask strength is bang on the nail. I
thought the similarities and differences between the standard expressions of
these two malts and their cask strength equivalents to be in many respects
very comparable. As it happens I rather dislike the standard Laphroaig and
think that the less medicinal, more complex CS is absolutely superb. In
contrast, I felt slightly cool towards the Lagavulin CS - probably because I
love the 16yo so much and haven't yet had so much of it that familiarity has
bred contempt. I can see why people might prefer the CS and why they might
consider the 16yo dumbed down. I wouldn't necessarily disagree with them,
either, since I admit to being pretty dumb about malts! Nevertheless, I
still can't see either these two cask strengths as having more muscles - but
maybe it depends on what you consider it is that gives a malt "muscle".
--
Jason
Reply without acrimony
Johanna
tell me that you've already gotten yourself a bottle of the Lag 25? Or are your
remarks based on samples in Islay from last year's festival?
Johanna
Andreas Gugau
>
> Andreas Gugau wrote:
> > mhicaoidh wrote:
> >
> > You're right with the dates. It was expected that Lagavulin will start
> > using older barrels, just the way Ardbeg does, but at the moment, the
> > 16 y.o. is nearly unavailable.
>
> Not in the UK it isn't. Makro have shelves of it at £22 a bottle.
Hmmm... first time I hear this, but thanks ;-) It's good to know.
Serge Valentin
I tasted the Lagavulin 25yo, which arrived here in France one month ago or
so. To be honest, it isn't stellar at all, and not worth the bucks, to say
the least. The old 'White Horse' 16yo was much better IMHO.
Santé,
Serge
dans l'article 3EB174E8...@andreas-gugau.de, Andreas Gugau à
postm...@andreas-gugau.de a écrit le 1/05/03 21:26 :
Geoff
>Andreas Gugau wrote:
>> mhicaoidh wrote:
>>
>> You're right with the dates. It was expected that Lagavulin will start
>> using older barrels, just the way Ardbeg does, but at the moment, the
>> 16 y.o. is nearly unavailable.
>
>Not in the UK it isn't. Makro have shelves of it at £22 a bottle.
I tend to disagree. My local supermarkets (Asda, Tesco, Safeway and
Morrisons) always had some on the shelf but there's only a few bottles
left at Asda now. When I inquired, they stated it was because they
couldn't get the restock.
I don't know who/what Makro is, but if they have it in a £22 a bottle,
I'd get it before it goes, not least because the usual UK retail is
between £27 and £32.
As for the Lagavulin Cask strength, the only places I've seen it have it
at about £10 dearer than the Lagavulin 16. Hardly a replacement. :-(
--
Geoff
Jason
"Geoff" <Ge...@alt.dev.null> wrote in message
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There's been no sign of a shortage in my local Sainsbury's - but I think
I'll lay in a bottle or two anyway, just in case.
Brett...
> On Thu, 1 May 2003, Brett... wrote (give or take a snip);
>
>> Andreas Gugau wrote:
>>> mhicaoidh wrote:
>>>
>>> You're right with the dates. It was expected that Lagavulin will
>>> start using older barrels, just the way Ardbeg does, but at the
>>> moment, the 16 y.o. is nearly unavailable.
>>
>> Not in the UK it isn't. Makro have shelves of it at £22 a bottle.
>
> I tend to disagree. My local supermarkets (Asda, Tesco, Safeway and
> Morrisons) always had some on the shelf but there's only a few bottles
> left at Asda now. When I inquired, they stated it was because they
> couldn't get the restock.
>
> I don't know who/what Makro is, but if they have it in a £22 a bottle,
> I'd get it before it goes, not least because the usual UK retail is
> between £27 and £32.
>
Trade Retail outlet. all prices plus vat. They were selling it for £17 a
bottle before Christmas! I think your shortage may be a peculiarity of your
local store, there is plenty in supermarkets in this area (North
Worcestershire).
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Brett
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EPM
enough.
epm
"Christian Probst" <christia...@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Beaker
>
>There's been no sign of a shortage in my local Sainsbury's - but I think
>I'll lay in a bottle or two anyway, just in case.
Lagavulin is now rare in Colorado - I only know of one shop
that has a supply, and they charge too much. It's been this
way since November.
bkr
Greg Beaulieu
: Lagavulin is now rare in Colorado - I only know of one shop
: way since November.
I just picked up (a hour ago) what may be the last bottle in Nova
Scotia... an inventory search found one in a remote store in the rural
part of the province, and they transferred it into town for me to buy. No
idea when the new allocation may arrive.
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Ingemar M
from several markets but, fortunately for me, Sweden is not one of them. A
quick search on the homepage of the state monopoly "Systembolaget" shows
that the availability here is still good.
When I last visited one of the smaller shops I saw 9 bottles on the shelf
there. The price here is SEK 529 (ca. EUR 57).
Slainte
Ingemar Markstrom
(Aka "Fredrik M")
"Greg Beaulieu" <ab348...@chebucto.ns.ca> skrev i meddelandet
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Greg Beaulieu
: I guess I'm one of the lucky ones here. AFAIK Lagavulin16yo is withdrawn
: from several markets but, fortunately for me, Sweden is not one of them. A
: quick search on the homepage of the state monopoly "Systembolaget" shows
: that the availability here is still good.
I was told earlier this week by my contact that I did indeed score the
last bottle in the entire province. He says they will not be getting any
more until the new allocation arrives in August.
With a spare bottle on hand, I treated myself to some from my open bottle
the other night. It tasted even better than I remembered. Lovely stuff.
But then again, last night I had some Highland Park and it tasted better
than I remembered too. Maybe it's just me. :)
mhicaoidh
|
| With a spare bottle on hand, I treated myself to some from my open bottle
| the other night. It tasted even better than I remembered. Lovely stuff.
| But then again, last night I had some Highland Park and it tasted better
| than I remembered too. Maybe it's just me. :)
It's an enviable position when your palette actually changes for the
better. ;-)
R
True, it's still widely available here but a tad bit more expensive. Sweden
got 1100 cases fewer than ordered but at least we're not dried out. Yet.
R
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Kjetil
queried him about the shortage. He said Lagavulin 16 should be back in stock
in a two years time, or at least availability would begin to normalize. It
is true what's been stated earlier in the thread, that the shortage is due
to decreased production late 1980'ies.
Personally i found Lagavulin 25 yrs to be an extremely complex malt. The
long ageing surely has camouflaged some of the classical Lagavulin
characteristics, but in return added alot of amusing traits to it :)
Cheers
Kjetil
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mhicaoidh
|
| Personally i found Lagavulin 25 yrs to be an extremely complex malt. The
| long ageing surely has camouflaged some of the classical Lagavulin
| characteristics, but in return added alot of amusing traits to it :)
I don't want me Lagavulin amusing ... I want it loud and obnoxious! ;-)
Johanna
them.
Johanna
mhicaoidh
|
| Lagavulin is many things... loud and obnoxious are not, in my opinion,
| either of them.
"Loud and obnoxious" meant in a good way. To me, Lagavulin is the life
of the party ... as opposed to Glen Livet being quiet and mousy ... in a
bad way. ;-)