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cal...@green.net

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Dec 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/3/99
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On Sat, 04 Dec 1999 02:02:40 -0800, ana...@coastnet.com (Erik Bjørn
Pedersen) wrote:

>Here in Victoria, Canada, there is a small club of about 300 PC users
>called "Big Blue and Cousins". For five years they have operated the domain
>bbc.org. Now the British Broadcasting Corporation


BBC? Wow, they are powerful, they have extensive legal resources,
fighting them would be extremely expensive as fighting for principle
always is. Note, they can sue whether they have a right to that name
or not. They do that in the US all the time. the point is people are
going to confuse bbc.org with BBC and so thats the concern.

john....@virgin.net

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Dec 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/4/99
to Erik Bjørn Pedersen
I would not give it up. BBC actually paid someone for the name
BBC.co.uk and in any event they have no right unless the person using
the name is trying to pass off as British Broadcasting Corporation. Do not
just cave in, FIGHT THEM !!. If they want transfer it to us and we'll fight.

Erik Bjørn Pedersen wrote:

> Here in Victoria, Canada, there is a small club of about 300 PC users
> called "Big Blue and Cousins". For five years they have operated the domain

> bbc.org. Now the British Broadcasting Corporation has sent them a note
> asking them to give up their domain within three weeks. The local group is
> not a bunch of parasites squatting on BBC's turf, and they do not want to
> get a lot of money for sselling their domain. Unfortunately, they have
> printed stationery, etc. with bbc.org, and Auntie BBC is not willing to
> compensate them for the cost of changing their domain name. The local
> bbc.org group is not interested in profiteering; they only wish to have
> their out-of-pocket conversion costs to a different URL covered. If the
> intransigence of the BBC bothers you, you might wish to send them a brief
> letter asking them to "do the right thing."
>
> Best wishes,
> Ananda das


Garry Anderson

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Dec 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/4/99
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It is not illegal, YOU ARE NOT INFRINGING ON A TRADEMARK, else you would be
arrested, i.e. if you use macdonald.com to start selling pretend Big Macs.
There is NO encroachment on their business; also you are NOT representing
your goods or services as that of someone else. You just have same name
prefix.
Please visit my site @ www.garryanderson.co.uk and click cybersquatting
button, it will explain why they (government and business) are doing this.
It is down at moment (Saturday @ 12:30 UK time) - try later.

Regards,
Garry.

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Chris Cane

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Dec 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/4/99
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I agree! Fight! Bargain! Take cash!

Don't give up!

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Chris Cane
www.amjocorp.com

pau...@redshift.com

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Dec 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/5/99
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On Mon, 06 Dec 1999 06:27:08 GMT, alch...@mephisto.px.pl (Michal
Margula) wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:56:53 GMT, cal...@green.net <cal...@green.net> wrote:
>>BBC? Wow, they are powerful, they have extensive legal resources,
>>fighting them would be extremely expensive as fighting for principle
>>always is. Note, they can sue whether they have a right to that name
>>or not. They do that in the US all the time. the point is people are
>>going to confuse bbc.org with BBC and so thats the concern.
>

>But they may ignore BBC and do nothing. They will have domain and it will be
>no problem :). They should give uo their domain if they get document saying
>that they have to - probably from court(?).

If they sue the people for the name, the people with the name would
have to spend $50,000 in legal defense. I bet they don't have that so,
they have to give up the name for nothing.

Mike Davidson

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Dec 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/5/99
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Hiya - This NG has just appeared on my list - very interesting stuff.....

Isn't it tempting to put some soft porn on the bbc.org domain space and tell
them you're getting 20,000 hits a week - I reckon they'll soon come up with
some cash....

Speak to you soon

Mike D

Michal Margula

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Dec 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/6/99
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On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:56:53 GMT, cal...@green.net <cal...@green.net> wrote:
>BBC? Wow, they are powerful, they have extensive legal resources,
>fighting them would be extremely expensive as fighting for principle
>always is. Note, they can sue whether they have a right to that name
>or not. They do that in the US all the time. the point is people are
>going to confuse bbc.org with BBC and so thats the concern.

But they may ignore BBC and do nothing. They will have domain and it will be
no problem :). They should give uo their domain if they get document saying
that they have to - probably from court(?).

--
Michal Margula, alch...@uznam.top.pl, ICQ UIN 12267440, +)
http://uznam.top.pl/~alchemyx/, PL section of Linux Counter maintainer

john....@virgin.net

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Dec 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/6/99
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They could do the legal stuff themselves, like serve a Defence etc,
its not hard and sure they'd stand a chance. I am sure America did'nt
reach where it is by being spineless so fight !!.

John Pepin

pau...@redshift.com wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Dec 1999 06:27:08 GMT, alch...@mephisto.px.pl (Michal
> Margula) wrote:
>

> >On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:56:53 GMT, cal...@green.net <cal...@green.net> wrote:
> >>BBC? Wow, they are powerful, they have extensive legal resources,
> >>fighting them would be extremely expensive as fighting for principle
> >>always is. Note, they can sue whether they have a right to that name
> >>or not. They do that in the US all the time. the point is people are
> >>going to confuse bbc.org with BBC and so thats the concern.
> >
> >But they may ignore BBC and do nothing. They will have domain and it will be
> >no problem :). They should give uo their domain if they get document saying
> >that they have to - probably from court(?).
>

Talk21

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Dec 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/7/99
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I worked at the BBC Online offices earlier this year in London (bush house
offices) and they PURCHASED www.bbc.com from Boston business company, it is
believed that they paid £1.3million ($2million approx) as they were losing
internet traffic.

The BBC is in the business of buying all the domains available with bbc to
stop people trading as them, alot of the domains are never used.

If i was getting emails and letters from the bbc, I would hold out for
payment from them, they will give it as the bbc has an image for being clean
cut and would not want its name draged through the courts and if it was
taken to court they would settle out of court.

Dave

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Robert A. Rosenberg

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Dec 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/7/99
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<cal...@green.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 04 Dec 1999 02:02:40 -0800, ana...@coastnet.com (Erik Bjørn
> Pedersen) wrote:
>
> >Here in Victoria, Canada, there is a small club of about 300 PC users
> >called "Big Blue and Cousins". For five years they have operated the
domain
> >bbc.org. Now the British Broadcasting Corporation
>
>
> BBC? Wow, they are powerful, they have extensive legal resources,
> fighting them would be extremely expensive as fighting for principle
> always is. Note, they can sue whether they have a right to that name
> or not. They do that in the US all the time. the point is people are
> going to confuse bbc.org with BBC and so thats the concern.

Which is "solved" by starting the home page with:

THIS IS THE HOME PAGE OF "BIG BLUE AND
COUSINS".
IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE BRITISH BROADCASING
CORPORATION SITE
CLICK HERE ---> WWW.BBB.CO.UK.

Clueless types will then be pointed at the correct location.

Ananda das

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Dec 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/8/99
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> They could do the legal stuff themselves, like serve a Defence etc,
> its not hard and sure they'd stand a chance. I am sure America did'nt
> reach where it is by being spineless so fight !!.

> John Pepin

I am not sure how America came into this discussion. The conflict is
between a Canadian amateur computer club and a British broadcaster.

Ananda

john....@virgin.net

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Dec 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/8/99
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So it was, sorry. Anyway, stand and fight dont cave in
so very easily !

John Pepin

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