Is Homosexuality a Healthy Lifestyle?
The Psychiatrist
assert that they are both normal and healthy individuals. We
have already discussed the "normality" of homosexuality. The
question of whether or not it is a healthy lifestyle can be
addressed in two areas: promiscuity and actual sexual practices.
(1) Promiscuity. If one agrees with the assertion that being
promiscuous is not healthy, from either an emotional or physical
standpoint, then homosexuality as typically practiced must be
termed extremely unhealthy. Homosexualities, an official
publication of The Institute for Sex Research founded by Alfred
Kinsey, Alan Bell, and Martin Weinberg, reported that only ten
percent of male homosexuals could be termed as "relatively
monogamous" or "relatively less promiscuous." Additional
findings showed that 60 percent of male homosexuals had more
than 250 lifetime sexual partners, and 28 percent of male
homosexuals had more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners.
Another startling fact is that 79 percent admitted that more
than half of their sexual partners were strangers.39
Just a few years after the publication of this report, Dr.
William Foege, the director of the Centers for Disease Control,
stated: "The average AIDS victim has had 60 different sexual
partners in the past twelve months."40 In contrast with this,
"the average heterosexual male has � throughout his life � from
five to nine sex partners."41
What about lesbian relationships? Are homosexual women less
promiscuous than homosexual men? While less research has been
done on lesbians, the data shows that they are much more
monogamous than homosexual men. However, their relationships are
still not very secure. Yvonne Zipter, a lesbian writing in
Chicago's gay journal Windy City Times, in an article entitled
"The Disposable Lesbian Relationship," notes that the "lasting
lesbian relationship" is a "mythic entity."42
(2) Sexual Practices. A second item that cannot be avoided in a
discussion of the health aspects of homosexuality is the actual
sexual practices of homosexuals. Are these healthy? Once again,
the vast preponderance of medical evidence is resoundingly
negative.
Many different medical sources document the physical aberrancy
of homosexual sexual practices. The following information comes
from an article entitled "Medical Perspective of the Homosexual
Issue." It was written by Dr. Bernard J. Klamecki, a
proctologist (rectal specialist) for more than 30 years.
Dr. Klamecki states in this article that when he began his
medical practice in 1960, only one percent of his patients were
homosexuals. By 1988 this number had grown to 25 percent of his
patients, the majority being referred by a local gay free
clinic. The following material comes from one who is known and
respected by the homosexual community, a medical professional
who has care and compassion for all his patients and who donates
a good deal of his time to their service.
I know well the medical and surgical pathology directly related
to the sexual practices typical of active homosexuals,
particularly anal intercourse (sodomy) and oral intercourse
(fellatio)....
Sexual practices typical of homosexuals can affect the oral
cavities, lungs, penis, prostate, bladder, anus, perianal areas
outside of the rectum, rectum, colon, vagina, uterus, pelvic
area, brain, skin, blood, immune system, and other body
systems.... While none of the following practices is unique to
homosexuals, they are nonetheless typical....
Most common is anal intercourse (sodomy)....Foreign objects are
often used in order to produce a different erotic sensation or
to instigate a more violent sexual activity (sadomasochism).
Objects that I have removed from the rectum and lower bowel
include corn cobs, light bulbs, vibrators, soda bottles, and
varied wooden sticks.
"Fisting" is when a fisted hand is inserted into the rectum,
sometimes as far as the elbow, which produces varied sexually
exciting sensations, strongly linking eroticism with pain....
Oral intercourse (fellatio) is when the tongue is used to lick
or tickle the outlet of the rectum for sexual excitement,
arousing, or foreplay. Needless to say, bacteria may contaminate
and infect the mouth. One other sexual practice is "Water
Sports," in which urinating into the mouth or rectum is used as
a sexual stimulant.
Physical damage to the rectum may occur because of some of these
practices....There is an antinatural activity being performed
when the rectum is the recipient of a penis or foreign object.
Because of this activity, cracking of the tissue (fissuring),
open sores (ulcers), boils (abscesses), and other infections can
occur in the skin of the surrounding tissues....
Persistent anal-rectal sexual activity can lead to various pre-
cancerous lesions such as Bowen's disease and Kaposi's sarcoma.
Whenever tissues are traumatized, cracked, or abraded, they are
vulnerable to bacterial infection.43
Dr. Klamecki then continues, discussing the various bacterial
diseases and viral diseases he regularly encounters with his
homosexual patients � the most prominent being AIDS (the current
figure is that 70 percent of Americans with AIDS are male
homosexuals or bisexuals). In addition, he asserts that up to 86
percent of homosexual males use various drugs to enhance and
increase their sexual stimulation.44
Is the homosexual lifestyle a healthy one? The information
presented above just scratches the surface showing the
pathological nature of these sexual practices. Much more could
be shared (e.g., the homosexual is three times more suicidal
than the heterosexual; a recent study shows the life expectancy
of homosexual men and women without AIDS being about 33 years
shorter than that of the heterosexual; and so forth),45 but
space will not permit it. I believe that any unbiased reader
would have to admit that homosexuality is neither a healthy
lifestyle nor a natural one.
Pat Magroyne
mentally-...@psych.org> wrote:
> As noted above,
There's nothing up there.
Richo
mentally-...@psych.org> wrote:
> As noted above, those in the gay rights movement constantly
> assert that they are both normal and healthy individuals. We
> have already discussed the "normality" of homosexuality. The
> question of whether or not it is a healthy lifestyle can be
> addressed in two areas: promiscuity and actual sexual practices.
>
If you dont think its healthy (or have some other objection) dont do
it.
No one is suggesting it be made compulsory or anything.
You are way too much interested in other peoples buisness.
Why is that?
Mark.
Uncle Vic
i...@psych.org> wrote:
Top-posting intended.
Why are you posting this to alt.disney? For that matter, why cross-post
to alt.atheism? Trying to start a flame war, TROLL?
> As noted above, those in the gay rights movement constantly
> assert that they are both normal and healthy individuals.
Do you have some kind of evidence they are not? Keep your answer out of
the bible, please.
> We
> have already discussed the "normality" of homosexuality.
No, we have discussed your opinion about the "normality" of
homosexuality. Which seems to sway to the side normally occupied by
bigots.
> The
> question of whether or not it is a healthy lifestyle can be
> addressed in two areas: promiscuity and actual sexual practices.
>
> (1) Promiscuity. If one agrees with the assertion that being
> promiscuous is not healthy, from either an emotional or physical
> standpoint, then homosexuality as typically practiced must be
> termed extremely unhealthy.
If normal protection is used, it is as safe as hetero sex. If not, at
least those participating will never need an abortion. You would think
gays and catholics would make natural allies for this one reason.
> Homosexualities, an official
> publication of The Institute for Sex Research founded by Alfred
> Kinsey, Alan Bell, and Martin Weinberg, reported that only ten
> percent of male homosexuals could be termed as "relatively
> monogamous" or "relatively less promiscuous."
One would wonder why. Persecution, shoving those involved underground,
would be one reason. You have yourselves to thank for that.
> Additional
> findings showed that 60 percent of male homosexuals had more
> than 250 lifetime sexual partners, and 28 percent of male
> homosexuals had more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners.
> Another startling fact is that 79 percent admitted that more
> than half of their sexual partners were strangers.
Like I said...
<big snip>
>
> (2) Sexual Practices. A second item that cannot be avoided in a
> discussion of the health aspects of homosexuality is the actual
> sexual practices of homosexuals. Are these healthy? Once again,
> the vast preponderance of medical evidence is resoundingly
> negative.
>
> Many different medical sources document the physical aberrancy
1. Deviating from the proper or expected course.
2. Deviating from what is normal; untrue to type.
Who are you to determine what is proper, expected, normal, or untrue to
type?
> of homosexual sexual practices.
You mean homosexual practices? Your Golden Asshole is showing.
The actual act consists of putting a penis into an orifice, and moving it
in and out. Just like hetero sex, except the orifice is the anus. Many
heterosexual couples have engaged in anal sex. What's the goddamn
difference?
Leviticus?
<snip homophobic bullshit>
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs.
anonymous
>
> As noted above, those in the gay rights movement constantly
> assert that they are both normal and healthy individuals. We
> have already discussed the "normality" of homosexuality. The
> question of whether or not it is a healthy lifestyle can be
> addressed in two areas: promiscuity and actual sexual practices.
Well, no, we already know that you can be promiscous and never get an
STD if you practice safe sex. You can have only 1 partner in life and
get herpes or AIDS.
Firstly, homosexual men tend to look younger because they don't have to
care to a wife and family but can live quite happily and free even with
a same sex spouse. Most homosexuals work, be they married or not. Most
homosexuals have a good education or are very well trained in some way
to ensure good employment and income in spite of being the most hated
people on the planet. Travel, nice home, apartment and car as need are
a given - in a good neighbourhood.
I will leave it to others to tell us how heterosexuals fair with
marriage, employment and offspring, not to mention, housing, vehicles
and vacations.
anonymous
>
> As noted above, those in the gay rights movement constantly
> assert that they are both normal and healthy individuals. We
> have already discussed the "normality" of homosexuality. The
> question of whether or not it is a healthy lifestyle can be
> addressed in two areas: promiscuity and actual sexual practices.
Well, no, we already know that you can be promiscous and never get an
STD if you practice safe sex. You can have only 1 partner in life and
get herpes or AIDS.
Firstly, homosexual men tend to look younger because they don't have to
care to a wife and family but can live quite happily and free even with
a same sex spouse. Most homosexuals work, be they married or not. Most
homosexuals have a good education or are very well trained in some way
to ensure good employment and income in spite of being the most hated
people on the planet. Travel, nice home, apartment and car as need are
a given - in a good neighbourhood.
I will leave it to others to tell us how heterosexuals fair with
marriage, employment and offspring, not to mention, housing, vehicles
and vacations.
>
Mitchell Holman
news:2311bc30ff030feb...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:
>
> Dr. Klamecki then continues, discussing the various bacterial
> diseases and viral diseases he regularly encounters with his
> homosexual patients � the most prominent being AIDS (the current
> figure is that 70 percent of Americans with AIDS are male
> homosexuals or bisexuals).
"the vast majority of people with AIDS worldwide got the
disease from heterosexual - not homosexual - intercourse."
http://ezinearticles.com/?Is-AIDS-a-Homosexual-Disease?&id=1301567
seastew
Why are you so obsessed with gays? Sounds like someone is stuck in the
closet and is self-loathing.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
"The Psychiatrist" * <the-IDIOTICALL...@psych.org> wrote:
* Remember the profession of the Fort Hood killer.
> Is Homosexuality a Healthy Lifestyle?
BZZZzzzttt!!!
It's not a "lifestyle." It is a perfectly normal sexual
ORINTATION. Just as heterosexuality is.
http://www.Egalitarian.biz/Orientation-at-Birth.html
<flush bigoted crap>
6sicks...@gmail.com
Why do you care?
jcon
"Above"? Look, if you're going to cut and paste things
straight from the web
http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0107a.html
without the courtesy attribute
them to the original author, you should at least
put the tiny amount of work necessary to remove
words that make it obvious.
Jeez.
-jc
Dänk 1010011010
mentally-...@psych.org> wrote:
> As noted above, those in the gay rights movement constantly
> assert that they are both normal and healthy individuals. We
> have already discussed the "normality" of homosexuality. The
> question of whether or not it is a healthy lifestyle can be
> addressed in two areas: promiscuity and actual sexual practices.
>
> (1) Promiscuity. If one agrees with the assertion that being
> promiscuous is not healthy, from either an emotional or physical
> standpoint, then homosexuality as typically practiced must be
> termed extremely unhealthy.
I'm a gay man who has been criticizing the extreme promiscuity of most
gay men for years now, only to be called a homophobic bigot, and also
accused of lying about my own homosexuality. But I'm not lying, and
only describe what I have personally witnessed among fellow
homosexuals, and I don't care how politically incorrect my
observations are, because they are the truth.
> Homosexualities, an official
> publication of The Institute for Sex Research founded by Alfred
> Kinsey, Alan Bell, and Martin Weinberg, reported that only ten
> percent of male homosexuals could be termed as "relatively
> monogamous" or "relatively less promiscuous."
This is an interesting statistic, coming from the institute founded by
Alfred Kinsey, who is a hero and even the patron saint of the gay
rights movement. Kinsey is so beloved because of his famous "10%"
statistic - the percentage of men who are supposedly homosexual, a
figure that has never been replicated in later studies.
> Additional
> findings showed that 60 percent of male homosexuals had more
> than 250 lifetime sexual partners, and 28 percent of male
> homosexuals had more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners.
Now these statistics are rather hard to believe, since they seem to be
unusually low. A more realistic estimate is two or three sexual
partners per night, times 365 days a year, times the ten or twenty
years before succumbing to AIDS - which comes out to approx. 10,000
sexual partners.
> Another startling fact is that 79 percent admitted that more
> than half of their sexual partners were strangers.
This is probably not entirely accurate, either. Since the number of
homosexual men in the population is quite low, it is likely that many
of their sexual partners have been recycled several times, and that
they just don't remember them. Crystal meth and crack cocaine have
been proven to affect memory, and even someone with the best memory is
unlikely to remember one former partner out of several thousand.
RamRod Sword of Baal
"D�nk 1010011010" <dan...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
news:10f78d59-f971-4595...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> Now these statistics are rather hard to believe, since they seem to be
> unusually low. A more realistic estimate is two or three sexual
> partners per night, times 365 days a year, times the ten or twenty
> years before succumbing to AIDS - which comes out to approx. 10,000
> sexual partners.
From you who say that you do not have sex with anyone comes the ridiculous
supposition that men can have sex 2 or 3 times a night EVERY night of the
year for 20 years.
You are quite deranged.
Pat Magroyne
> Now these statistics are rather hard to believe, since they seem to be
> unusually low. A more realistic estimate is two or three sexual
> partners per night, times 365 days a year, times the ten or twenty
> years before succumbing to AIDS - which comes out to approx. 10,000
> sexual partners.
Your "estimate" would be different if you'd spend some time in gay
coffeeshops, gay churches, gay restaurants, and gay and lesbian
centers, instead of leather bars and sex clubs.
juanjo
mentally-...@psych.org> wrote:
> As noted above, those in the gay rights movement constantly
> assert that they are both normal and healthy individuals. We
> have already discussed the "normality" of homosexuality. The
> question of whether or not it is a healthy lifestyle can be
> addressed in two areas: promiscuity and actual sexual practices.
>
> (1) Promiscuity. If one agrees with the assertion that being
> promiscuous is not healthy, from either an emotional or physical
> standpoint, then homosexuality as typically practiced must be
> termed extremely unhealthy. Homosexualities, an official
> publication of The Institute for Sex Research founded by Alfred
> Kinsey, Alan Bell, and Martin Weinberg, reported that only ten
> percent of male homosexuals could be termed as "relatively
> monogamous" or "relatively less promiscuous." Additional
> findings showed that 60 percent of male homosexuals had more
> than 250 lifetime sexual partners, and 28 percent of male
> homosexuals had more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners.
> Another startling fact is that 79 percent admitted that more
> than half of their sexual partners were strangers.39
Our dear fundamentalist friends seem to want to have it both ways.
First they point to a subset of behaviours indicating promiscuity
among homosexual men and then they oppose any attempts by that same
group of men to engage in any sorts of monogamous relationships. The
fact is that for many years and certainly at the time of Kinsey's
research, it was a crime to engage in homosexual relations in mnost of
the United States. One could lose one's job and be run out of the
community in which one lived if the fact was known that you were a
homosexual. Thus sexual liaisons tended to be quick and anonymous as
this was a way to protect one's self from such negative repercussions.
>
> Just a few years after the publication of this report, Dr.
> William Foege, the director of the Centers for Disease Control,
> stated: "The average AIDS victim has had 60 different sexual
> partners in the past twelve months."40 In contrast with this,
> "the average heterosexual male has — throughout his life — from
> five to nine sex partners."41
>
Here we have the repetition of the lie by misdirection. Dr. Foege did
indeed do a study and publish the results of the same in 1981. In
that study he stated the following:
" Epidemiologists identified a subset of homosexual men who were more
likely to have many anonymous sexual partners, to have a history of a
variety of sexually transmitted diseases, and to engage in sexual
practices that increased the risk of exposure to small amounts of
blood and feces. The most important variable was that AIDS patients
had more male sexual partners than the controls, an average of 60 per
year for patients compared with 25 per year for controls."
In other words the people who in 1981 were being diagnosed with AIDS
had several common factors that made them different from other members
of the gay community. Among these was the fact that they had an
average of 60 sexual partners a year as compared with the average of
25 for non-infected homosexuals. Now this study was done of
homosexual males between 18 and 40 in 1981 before the dynamics of HIV
transmission were completely understood. It was asking these men to
self report sexual contacts during the 60's, and 70's a time of much
freer sexual activity in the United States.
If we go forward a few years the data is different. MSM enrolled in a
study published in the American Journal of Public Health in 2003
reported a median number of seven male sex partners over the previous
six months. Koblin, et. al., “High-Risk Behaviors Among Men Who Have
Sex With Men in Six U.S. Cities: Baseline Data from the EXPLORE
Study,” American Journal of Public Health, June 2003, vol. 93, no. 6,
pg. 928. A 1997 study of young gay and bisexual men found that 91
percent reported an average of 43 male sexual partners in their
lifetime. Seage, George, Kenneth Mayer MD), et. al., “HIV and
Hepatitis B Infection and Risk Behavior in Young Gay and Bisexual
Men,” Public Health Reports, v. 112 (2) March-April 1997, pg. 161.
Now let us consider the data for heterosexuals. First John Hopkins
School of Medicine published a study which showed that a significant
subset of heterosexual males engaged in a significantly higher number
of sexual contacts than other heterosexual males. Not surprisingly
these men tend to be younger and unmarried. There also seems to be a
much higher rate of marital infidelity than previous thought. Another
study by the University of California at Irvine showed that
heterosexual males routinely did not report or under reported their
contacts with prostitutes when asked about the number of sexual
partners they had in a year. Males stated they had an average of 1.5
sexual partners a year between age 18 and age 59 or 61.5 on average.
However the numbers did not jibe with studies done of female,
heterosexual prostitutes who reported an average of 869 partners a
year. The ratio of female heterosexual prostitutes to the general
population in 2005 was determined to be 22:100,000 based upon surveys
of arrest records. Using the reported statistics and some followup
questioning they found that only 15 to 23% of heterosexual males who
used the services of prostitutes actually included those liaisons in
their number of sexual contacts. A further study found that when
adjusted the number of average partners was higher with 22% of males
admitting to 15 or more sexual liaisons in a given year.
Now I do not mean to suggest that the number of sexual partners
between the two groups is exactly even on average. But what I am
pointing out is that the rate in 1981 for non-infected gay men was
significantly lower than it was for infected men. Further the
infected men engaged in a number of highly risky sexual activities
that their counterparts didd not engage in which increased the risk of
exposure to certain bodily fluids. After 18 years of education in the
gay community there has been a decline in the number of unsafe sexual
practices as a whole. Unfortunately certain elements of the
population have not been reached by those efforts, primarily those in
the minority communities and those deep in the closet who do not
typically have access to the media and other campaigns used to educate
people in the gay community. I am also pointing out that the more
recent studies of heterosexual activity is not as restricted as some
would like to make it out to be.
But the simple fact is that studies done by the CDC show that the rate
of new HIV infection in the MSM category is 3% of the total MSM
community which would tend to show that there has been a dramatic
shift in behaviours in the gay community.
>
> Many different medical sources document the physical aberrancy
> of homosexual sexual practices. The following information comes
> from an article entitled "Medical Perspective of the Homosexual
> Issue." It was written by Dr. Bernard J. Klamecki, a
> proctologist (rectal specialist) for more than 30 years.
>
Dr. Klamecki is a deeply religious man who works in a Roman Catholic
evangelical ministry in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He is hardly an
unbiased reporter of anything. Further none of his "research" has
been published in any peer reviewed journal. The only place to find
it is on religious, anti-gay websites. The article mentioned here is
found at “Medical Perspective of the Homosexual Issue,” The Crisis of
Homosexuality, Ed. J. Isamu Yamamoto, Christianity Today Publisher,
1990. Last I checked Christianity Today was not a medical journal.
The good doctor is also associated in some way with an El Paso
organization called the Medical Institute for Sexual Health which is a
Christian fundamentalist organization promoting sexual abstinence
until marriage which is not necessarily a bad thing in and of its
self. However they pass along a lot of disinformation about birth
control and mental/sexual health issues and work with certain well
known crack pot groups we all know like the Family Research Council,
NAARTH and others.
juanjo
>
> I'm a gay man who has been criticizing the extreme promiscuity of most
> gay men for years now, only to be called a homophobic bigot, and also
> accused of lying about my own homosexuality.
Dank One, you have been caught in so many lies that it would be
impossible to list them all.
juanjo
wrote:
> Super wanker Dank wrote"Dänk 1010011010" <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
Remember that the Dank One is the person who claimed that a man sat
next to him on a non-existent bench at the intersection of Market &
Church Streets, where about ten major Muni routes intersect and on one
of the busiest streets in San Francisco, right in front of the exit to
a Muni Metro station and across the street from a popular restaurant
and major grocery store open 24 hours a day, took down his pants, and
attempted to have sex with him. He backtracked on that line pretty
quickly when challenged and then said he was so drunk he doesn't know
where he was when this alleged incident took place.
He has also stated without substantiation that the vast majority of
gay men are HIV positive when the simple fact is that statistics and
CDC data prove him wrong. Similarly his conclusions about drug use
are overinflated as well.
To call him deranged is being charitable.
anonymous
I just wish one heterosexual would take a moment and post what is so
awesome about their life as a heterosexual, how they enjoy church and
their family grown up or still in childhood, how they enjoy their day
job, the joy they get after a hard day at work posting anti-gay emails
for a Godly purpose or religous purpose or how fit they are from playing
basketball 4 times a week with their other heterosexual friends. All
these people ever post is how horrible being a homosexual is and they
aren't homoseual and from their writing appear to know nothing about
being a homosexual.
Maybe some day my wish will come true.
anonymous
>
> On Nov 18, 9:38 pm, "The Psychiatrist" <the-gay-
> mentally-...@psych.org> wrote:
> > As noted above, those in the gay rights movement constantly
> > assert that they are both normal and healthy individuals. We
> > have already discussed the "normality" of homosexuality. The
> > question of whether or not it is a healthy lifestyle can be
> > addressed in two areas: promiscuity and actual sexual practices.
> >
> > (1) Promiscuity. If one agrees with the assertion that being
> > promiscuous is not healthy, from either an emotional or physical
> > standpoint, then homosexuality as typically practiced must be
> > termed extremely unhealthy.
>
> I'm a gay man who has been criticizing the extreme promiscuity of most
> gay men for years now, only to be called a homophobic bigot, and also
> accused of lying about my own homosexuality.
Thank you very much for posting. Could you assist further, please. Can
you define
promiscuity, and extreme promiscuity. The reason I ask is I want to
understand you better and what you mean. I, for instance, understand
promiscuity to mean a person who has many different sexual partners
within a certain period of time. There are heterosexual and homosexual
sex clubs where members may do sm/sex with 10 or 20 people in one 24
hour period once a month whether they are married or single, with or
without a partner. There is the homosexual or heterosexual male who may
be - excuse the language - ugly or have a very ugly penis, uncircumcised
or badly circumcised or it is extremely small who for better or worse
hires a prostitute or rent boy as the case maybe 3 times a week because
the person is well off and has a high sex drive and only 27 years of
age. There are those married men whom are famous, basketball players,
hockey players, tennis players, who after every game want to go out and
drink, party and have sex but their wife is at home somewhere in a
lovely rich community where there children attend private school and the
wife has money to go shopping in the 10s of thousands every month. The
sports husband has sex after every game, he plays every other day and he
has sex and booze on the days he doesn't play no matter where in the
world he is playing or not playing as his schedule permits. Of these
descriptions are any of these people promiscuous by your understanding
and definition regardless of whether they are heterosexual, married,
single, homosexual or a homosexual married guy as is available in
Canada.
If after you have defined promiscuous, where does the problem lie that
bothers you if none of these people have aids or an STD because they
wear a condom on each and every occasion they have sex with someone not
their wife/husband/spouse as the case maybe.
I also understand you and I would think our neighbours are normal
heterosexuals only to find out later the wife would not let the husband
have sex or have sex very often. So what is a normal person who has
normal sex and what happens if a spouse at some point after the marriage
contract is signed and legal says no to sex? How does the husband make
his marriage normal?
> But I'm not lying, and
> only describe what I have personally witnessed among fellow
> homosexuals, and I don't care how politically incorrect my
> observations are, because they are the truth.
>
Also to be cheeky, if just for a moment, you know the only sex life of
interest to most people would be your sex life and the reason for that
is not an impolite one but an understanding of what a normal homosexual
deems is an acceptable sex life for other average homosexuals.
> > Homosexualities, an official
> > publication of The Institute for Sex Research founded by Alfred
> > Kinsey, Alan Bell, and Martin Weinberg, reported that only ten
> > percent of male homosexuals could be termed as "relatively
> > monogamous" or "relatively less promiscuous."
>
> This is an interesting statistic, coming from the institute founded by
> Alfred Kinsey, who is a hero and even the patron saint of the gay
> rights movement. Kinsey is so beloved because of his famous "10%"
> statistic - the percentage of men who are supposedly homosexual, a
> figure that has never been replicated in later studies.
>
Well, do you think there are more homosexuals per offspring or less?
How does the number of offspring produced in a given day matter?
Does the world care how many black, spanish, irish, german, dutch, east
indians, chinese, Japanese people are produced in a day and does it
matter if the production, if you will, are homosexual, bisexual,
heterosexual, male, female matter to anyone? Is it good or bad?
> > Additional
> > findings showed that 60 percent of male homosexuals had more
> > than 250 lifetime sexual partners, and 28 percent of male
> > homosexuals had more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners.
>
Even if that is true, does it matter if no std was transmitted?
I was adopted because somebody had sex with somebody else and for
whatever reason
couldn't or didn't get an abortion. So as a result I lost who I am, my
name, where I came from, what medical history I have. The place I was
born says no information will ever be released to me or to the people
who produced me. Is that good or bad?
Also since they are homosexuals having sex no offspring can take place
so there is no contribution to overpopulation in spite of all the sex
that has taken place.
Also how do you feel about porn? There is little to no gay/homosexual
free porn on the web. But there are millions of sites of free
heterosexual porn if you goggle "free porn videos". If you watch almost
any of them they are throwing women around, hitting them, put their
penis in their mouths, anus, and vagina, and most times two penises at
once, one guy in the vagina and the other guy in the anus, sometimes a
third guy has his penis in a woman's mouth. This is all free, 24 hours
a day for anybody of any age able to type "free porn videos" which are
probably grade 3 words. Is this a good thing? Should children, adults
or anyone see women being treated this way -- and oh, yes almost none of
the men ejaculate in the vagina but almost all men withdraw from the
mouth, the vagina and the anus and squirt on the woman's face. Is this
better than being promiscuous or worse?
> Now these statistics are rather hard to believe, since they seem to be
> unusually low. A more realistic estimate is two or three sexual
> partners per night, times 365 days a year, times the ten or twenty
> years before succumbing to AIDS - which comes out to approx. 10,000
> sexual partners.
>
My problem is the religious community suggests that homosexuals try to
convert heterosexual men to homosexuality. I have never talked to a
person who converted to homosexuality at any age, but if a homosexual
can have 10,000 partners, when would he have time to convert someone and
why would he bother if 10,000 homosexuals were available already?
> > Another startling fact is that 79 percent admitted that more
> > than half of their sexual partners were strangers.
>
If you have sex with your homosexual lover and he is once unfaithful and
catches an STD like herpes, would you love him more or less than if you
had been unfaithful once and got an STD from an stranger as opposed to
your lover?
How does a sex partner being a stranger matter as long as no diseases
are transmitted and why is it okay if you sex partner is your regular
sex partner but unknown to him or you he contracted hepatitis C when he
was in college and you both just found out he tested positive in a
routine medical check-up.
> This is probably not entirely accurate, either. Since the number of
> homosexual men in the population is quite low, it is likely that many
> of their sexual partners have been recycled several times, and that
> they just don't remember them.
So am I to understand you to believe the number of homosexuals is very,
very low in society and as such they should have not rights as humans?
Additionally, during WW2 men and women were tortured, forced to have sex
by the nazis and their related allies and years later these men and
women could identify in detail by voice, mannerisms, speech patterns
among other human qualities what these horrible people did to them etc.
in criminal trials. In the same way you can remember things people said
to you or did to you as a young person. Why do you think homosexuals or
any person would not remember the sex partners they had be they 1
partner or thousands. True some may not be recognized immediately, but
when they were reminded when they previously had sex, where it was, what
the weather was like, what they were wearing or saying or doing. The
people would remember.
> Crystal meth and crack cocaine have
> been proven to affect memory, and even someone with the best memory is
> unlikely to remember one former partner out of several thousand.
Oh, true and lots of heterosexuals use crystal meth, too.
And what is a greater sin, not to remember your lover's birthday be they
a heterosexual or a homosexual or to not remember somebody you screwed
in college on or not no crystal meth?
Dänk 1010011010
Well, you accused me of lying about the green bench in front of the
Church Street station, even after Google Maps showed it exactly where
I said it was.
Pat Magroyne
Their lives are so empty that all they can do is fantasize about what
other people are doing in the privacy of their own bedrooms.
anonymous
Dank, you make a great contribution to society despite what anyone else
says. You post stuff that is far from the truth and that allows and
encourages others to post correct information.
It doesn't matter if anything you said or did was or is correct because
it is your personal business. But when you attempt to try to speak for
others, your have a huge problem because you don't give backup examples
or evidence nor do you give reasons, but your gift nevertheless is that
you allow society to make sense of what you have posted. That is a
priceless gift.
Lefty
> On Nov 18, 9:38 pm, "The Psychiatrist" <the-gay-
>
> mentally-...@psych.org> wrote:
> > As noted above, those in the gay rights movement constantly
> > assert that they are both normal and healthy individuals. We
> > have already discussed the "normality" of homosexuality. The
> > question of whether or not it is a healthy lifestyle can be
> > addressed in two areas: promiscuity and actual sexual practices.
>
> > (1) Promiscuity. If one agrees with the assertion that being
> > promiscuous is not healthy, from either an emotional or physical
> > standpoint, then homosexuality as typically practiced must be
> > termed extremely unhealthy.
>
> I'm a gay man who has been criticizing the extreme promiscuity of most
> gay men for years now, only to be called a homophobic bigot, and also
> accused of lying about my own homosexuality. But I'm not lying, and
> only describe what I have personally witnessed among fellow
> homosexuals, and I don't care how politically incorrect my
> observations are, because they are the truth.
It has nothing to do with sexual orientation. It has to do with
gender. What stops straight men from being as promiscuous as gay men
is the fact that most women aren't as easy as men and most wives and
girlfriends aren't as forgiving of infidelity as gay boyfriends/
husbands are.
> > Homosexualities, an official
> > publication of The Institute for Sex Research founded by Alfred
> > Kinsey, Alan Bell, and Martin Weinberg, reported that only ten
> > percent of male homosexuals could be termed as "relatively
> > monogamous" or "relatively less promiscuous."
>
> This is an interesting statistic, coming from the institute founded by
> Alfred Kinsey, who is a hero and even the patron saint of the gay
> rights movement. Kinsey is so beloved because of his famous "10%"
> statistic - the percentage of men who are supposedly homosexual, a
> figure that has never been replicated in later studies.
>
> > Additional
> > findings showed that 60 percent of male homosexuals had more
> > than 250 lifetime sexual partners, and 28 percent of male
> > homosexuals had more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners.
>
> Now these statistics are rather hard to believe, since they seem to be
> unusually low. A more realistic estimate is two or three sexual
> partners per night, times 365 days a year, times the ten or twenty
> years before succumbing to AIDS - which comes out to approx. 10,000
> sexual partners.
You're not helping your case with such hyperbole. No wonder people
think you're a straight bigot.
> > Another startling fact is that 79 percent admitted that more
> > than half of their sexual partners were strangers.
>
> This is probably not entirely accurate, either. Since the number of
> homosexual men in the population is quite low, it is likely that many
> of their sexual partners have been recycled several times, and that
> they just don't remember them. Crystal meth and crack cocaine have
> been proven to affect memory, and even someone with the best memory is
> unlikely to remember one former partner out of several thousand.
Sounds like you hang with a creepy crowd. That colors one's
perceptions. Your personal observations are no substitute for
objective fact.
Lefty
I'm a heterosexual and it's been no big thrill. Who doesn't get a bit
bored with fucking after doing it regularly for years? Most men will
never admit this, gay or straight. Their identity is completely
wrapped up in hypersexuality as if it were the definition of
masculinity. It's sad. People should fuck less so as to appreciate it
more, and be more choosy about partners.
Lefty
> On Nov 19, 12:55 pm, "RamRod Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Super wanker Dank wrote"Dänk 1010011010" <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:10f78d59-f971-4595...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Now these statistics are rather hard to believe, since they seem to be
> > > unusually low. A more realistic estimate is two or three sexual
> > > partners per night, times 365 days a year, times the ten or twenty
> > > years before succumbing to AIDS - which comes out to approx. 10,000
> > > sexual partners.
>
> > From you who say that you do not have sex with anyone comes the ridiculous
> > supposition that men can have sex 2 or 3 times a night EVERY night of the
> > year for 20 years.
>
> > You are quite deranged.
>
> Remember that the Dank One is the person who claimed that a man sat
> next to him on a non-existent bench at the intersection of Market &
> Church Streets, where about ten major Muni routes intersect and on one
> of the busiest streets in San Francisco, right in front of the exit to
> a Muni Metro station and across the street from a popular restaurant
> and major grocery store open 24 hours a day, took down his pants, and
> attempted to have sex with him. He backtracked on that line pretty
> quickly when challenged and then said he was so drunk he doesn't know
> where he was when this alleged incident took place.
No wonder he thinks every other fag is a whorish substance abuser.
Sounds like projection.
> He has also stated without substantiation that the vast majority of
> gay men are HIV positive when the simple fact is that statistics and
> CDC data prove him wrong. Similarly his conclusions about drug use
> are overinflated as well.
>
> To call him deranged is being charitable.
He seems to be profoundly dim, too.
juanjo
Ah Dank dear, you should not rely on Google Maps as it only shows what
was present at a certain point in time when a photo was taken and not
necessarily what was present when you say you were at the location.
Besides that we have you claiming that you were seated on a bench at
one of the busiest intersections in the City. A place where some 10
different Muni lines intersect and where thousands of people are pass
by during any 24 hour period transferring between street cars, buses
and the Metro not to mention the presence of a 24 hour grocery store
and 6 or 7 restaurants and more than a few bars which attract a
significant amount of foot traffic. Add to that the number of
automobiles, bicycles and motorcycles that travel through that
intersection all hours of the day and night. Yet you say that someone
disrobed and wagged their wanker at you while you were seated on the
bench in full view of restaurant goers, public transit users and
various others. Now I have lived in this City for most of my life. I
used to live about 4 blocks from the intersection of Church and Market
and I regularly pass through that area even now. Yet in all my 56
years of existence I have never seen the anyone behave in that fashion
in the area. Now I suppose that it is possible that some extremely
intoxicated person, driven out of his mind by the intoxicating
presence of your moral disapproval decided to expose himself to you
and suggest you "suck" it but I am more inclined to beleive you are
just making it up as you go along. Much like your claims about HIV
infections and drug addiction.
Anonymous
26de48...@g10g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
juanjo <jonp...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> On Nov 19, 6:13�pm, D�nk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 19, 3:24�pm, juanjo <jonpe...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> :
> >
> > > > I'm a gay man who has been criticizing the extreme promiscuity of mos
> t
> > > > gay men for years now, only to be called a homophobic bigot, and also
> > > > accused of lying about my own homosexuality. �
> >
> > > Dank One, you have been caught in so many lies that it would be
> > > impossible to list them all.
> >
> > Well, you accused me of lying about the green bench in front of the
> > Church Street station, even after Google Maps showed it exactly where
> > I said it was.
>
> Ah Dank dear,
Faggot vandalism thwarted.
duke
Only if you want AIDS or want to spend all eternity in the fires of hell.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Dänk 1010011010
To be honest, I find most gay people to be extremely annoying,
mindless, vacuous, shallow, completely devoid of independent thought,
and other than indiscriminate sex, the only thing they seem capable of
is bleating 'O-BAAA-MA!' like retarded sheep on crack.
Dänk 1010011010
> On Nov 19, 6:13 pm, Dänk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19, 3:24 pm, juanjo <jonpe...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 19, 12:18 pm, Dänk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I'm a gay man who has been criticizing the extreme promiscuity of most
> > > > gay men for years now, only to be called a homophobic bigot, and also
> > > > accused of lying about my own homosexuality.
>
> > > Dank One, you have been caught in so many lies that it would be
> > > impossible to list them all.
>
> > Well, you accused me of lying about the green bench in front of the
> > Church Street station, even after Google Maps showed it exactly where
> > I said it was.
>
> Ah Dank dear, you should not rely on Google Maps as it only shows what
> was present at a certain point in time when a photo was taken and not
> necessarily what was present when you say you were at the location.
I said there was a green bench in front of the entrance of the Church
Street station, the existence of which you denied. You are free to
walk by the location and see for yourself whether the bench exists.
> Besides that we have you claiming that you were seated on a bench at
> one of the busiest intersections in the City.
I said I was standing NEAR the bench, when a gay dude in his late 20s
or early 30s looked at me, pulled down his pants, sat down on the
bench, and began fondling himself hoping I would join in. You accused
me of lying after I mistakenly thought the station entrance was on
Market Street.
> A place where some 10
> different Muni lines intersect and where thousands of people are pass
> by during any 24 hour period transferring between street cars, buses
> and the Metro not to mention the presence of a 24 hour grocery store
> and 6 or 7 restaurants and more than a few bars which attract a
> significant amount of foot traffic. Add to that the number of
> automobiles, bicycles and motorcycles that travel through that
> intersection all hours of the day and night. Yet you say that someone
> disrobed and wagged their wanker at you while you were seated on the
> bench in full view of restaurant goers, public transit users and
> various others.
Yes, I actually did see this. Unfortunately, my camera was in my
backpack, so I didn't get a photo. In retrospect, it probably is one
of the less weird things I've experienced in San Francisco.
> Now I have lived in this City for most of my life. I
> used to live about 4 blocks from the intersection of Church and Market
> and I regularly pass through that area even now. Yet in all my 56
> years of existence I have never seen the anyone behave in that fashion
> in the area.
Then you must be blind, because I also saw a half-naked (bottomless)
she-male exit the green automatic toilet in front of the nearby
Safeway on another occasion. What he/she/it was doing in there is
unknown, but the toilet graffiti suggests that it is a popular
location for prostitution. Then there were the THREE NAKED MEN on
Castro Street one night around 420 earlier this year. I can't prove I
saw them, but they were wearing identical red caps and later identical
'Hot Cookie' briefs after police ordered them to cover up. And all of
this public nudity was far removed from the Folsom Street Fair,
Lovefest, and the Gay Pride parade where nudity is practically
mandatory.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Earl Weber ("duke") <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
...NOTHING intelligent.
As usual.
<flush>
juanjo
And now the story changes yet again. You seem to forget that you have
already admitted you were very intoxicated and uncertain as to where
you actually were at the time.
>
> > A place where some 10
> > different Muni lines intersect and where thousands of people are pass
> > by during any 24 hour period transferring between street cars, buses
> > and the Metro not to mention the presence of a 24 hour grocery store
> > and 6 or 7 restaurants and more than a few bars which attract a
> > significant amount of foot traffic. Add to that the number of
> > automobiles, bicycles and motorcycles that travel through that
> > intersection all hours of the day and night. Yet you say that someone
> > disrobed and wagged their wanker at you while you were seated on the
> > bench in full view of restaurant goers, public transit users and
> > various others.
>
> Yes, I actually did see this. Unfortunately, my camera was in my
> backpack, so I didn't get a photo. In retrospect, it probably is one
> of the less weird things I've experienced in San Francisco.
Right.... but we are not interested in the back rooms you have been
cruising.
>
> > Now I have lived in this City for most of my life. I
> > used to live about 4 blocks from the intersection of Church and Market
> > and I regularly pass through that area even now. Yet in all my 56
> > years of existence I have never seen the anyone behave in that fashion
> > in the area.
>
> Then you must be blind, because I also saw a half-naked (bottomless)
> she-male exit the green automatic toilet in front of the nearby
> Safeway on another occasion. What he/she/it was doing in there is
> unknown, but the toilet graffiti suggests that it is a popular
> location for prostitution.
Right. Then they must be quickies because those toilets are on timers
and the doors automatically pop open 10 minutes after one enters.
> Then there were the THREE NAKED MEN on
> Castro Street one night around 420 earlier this year. I can't prove I
> saw them, but they were wearing identical red caps and later identical
> 'Hot Cookie' briefs after police ordered them to cover up. And all of
> this public nudity was far removed from the Folsom Street Fair,
> Lovefest, and the Gay Pride parade where nudity is practically
> mandatory.
It may come as a surprise to you that public nudity is not per se
illegal in San Francisco. However one can be detained for public
indecency. But the police only act upon it in situations where there
are complaints about it. So for example you can go to a certain part
of Baker's Beach or out at Land's End and find the nude section where
people enjoy themselves au natural. No one complains and people who
do not want to see that sort of thing stay away from the area. Now
the Folsom Street Fair is not a gay event but has both gay and
straight participants some of whom do appear in various states of
undress. Likewise Lovefest is also not a gay festival but rather one
at which all people are welcome. I did not attend this year but the
year before I did not see a lot of nudity. The Pride Parade does not
typically result in a lot of nudity as the monitors frown upon it and
generally prevail upon those who desire to share their charms with the
crowd. I used to volunteer as a monitor so I know about this first
hand.
You have repeated this story about the trio up at Castro before and
even named a particular time when you claimed to see it. At the time
you claimed it was a common site. I pointed out that it was 52F that
evening with fog so anyone walking around naked was going to be more
than a bit blue. I also mentioned that in all my years of living in
the city, seeing people walk around naked was not a common experience
Then I found the source for your claim. It was a newspaper report
about three young men who were attempting to make some sort of
political statement by waltzing nude through the Castro. The cops
made them put on jock straps which they agreed to do. They did this
on the weekend during the day. They apparently have done it a few
times since but always in a jock strap.
juanjo
orientation while stating all manner of lies and half truths about his
experiences and the gay community in general. He has told so many
whoppers he has a hard time keeping track of them all and thus makes
errors which further confirm that nothing this troll says is accurate.
For example the Dank Boy claims that Kinsey said that 10% of the male
population was homosexual. That is not what Kinsey said at all.
Kinsey stated that his data showed that at the time of the survey 10%
of those interviewed stated they were "more or less exclusively"
engaging in same sex activities at the time of the interview. He also
reported roughly 33% of all males reported having had a same sex
sexual experience to the point of orgasm at least in their lifetimes.
8% of males were exclusively homosexual for at least three years
between the ages of 16 and 55. However only 4% of males and 1-3% of
females had been exclusively homosexual after the onset of adolescence
up to the time of the interview. Later studies of the same data or new
data have shown different percentages for the number of males who are
exclusively homosexual with a low of 1% and and high of 4% but most
were around the 2 to 3% level.
So the Dank One has shown he cannot be relied upon to even report on
information readily available on the internet.
Then we have the Dank Boy's claim about the rampart promiscuity among
gay men. For example when confronted with the quote below he claimed
it was too low and that most gay men had multiple sex partners daily
with close to 1,000 sexual partners in a year's time. But the data
does not support the Dank Boy. First the quote that Dank Boy said was
too low:
> Just a few years after the publication of this report, Dr.
> William Foege, the director of the Centers for Disease Control,
> stated: "The average AIDS victim has had 60 different sexual
> partners in the past twelve months." In contrast with this,
> "the average heterosexual male has — throughout his life — from
> five to nine sex partners."
Dr. Foege did indeed do a study and publish the results of the same in
1981. In that study he stated the following:
" Epidemiologists identified a subset of homosexual men who were more
likely to have many anonymous sexual partners, to have a history of a
variety of sexually transmitted diseases, and to engage in sexual
practices that increased the risk of exposure to small amounts of
blood and feces. The most important variable was that AIDS patients
had more male sexual partners than the controls, an average of 60 per
year for patients compared with 25 per year for controls."
In other words the people who in 1981 were being diagnosed with AIDS
had several common factors that made them different from other members
of the gay community. Among these was the fact that they had an
average of 60 sexual partners a year as compared with the average of
25 for non-infected homosexuals. Now this study was done of
homosexual males between 18 and 40 years of age in 1981 before the
admitting to 15 or more sexual liaisons [with prostitutes included] in
a given year.
Now I do not mean to suggest that the number of sexual partners
between the two groups is exactly even on average. But what I am
pointing out is that the rate in 1981 for non-infected gay men was
significantly lower than it was for infected men. Further the
infected men engaged in a number of highly risky sexual activities
that their counterparts did not engage in which increased the risk of
exposure to certain bodily fluids. After 18 years of education in the
gay community there has been a decline in the number of unsafe sexual
practices as a whole. Unfortunately certain elements of the
population have not been reached by those efforts, primarily those in
the minority communities and those deep in the closet who do not
typically have access to the media and other campaigns used to educate
people in the gay community. I am also pointing out that the more
recent studies of heterosexual activity is not as restricted as some
would like to make it out to be.
Similarly the number of sexual liaisons reported by heterosexual men
were dramatically different as well from those indicated in the Foege
study.
In either case the numbers reported are wildly different from those
claimed by the Dank Boy. Since the Dank Boy is unable to cite to any
studies to support his wildly different numbers we can only conclude
he is lying about them as well.
The Dank Boy has also delighted in referring to the wild behaviour he
claims to have seen over the years for example at Pride Festivals.
Now I do not dispute that it is not unusual to find people who have
drank to excess and who engage in some pretty wild behaviour at such
events. However, the same is true at Mardi Gras in New Orleans ort
other locations each year where heterosexual males and female
participants also engage in similar behaviour. Then again we have the
annual bacchanal known as "Spring Break" which descends on Cancun and
other locations each spring. If one is in doubt of what goes on
there, simply purchase a copy of a "Girls Gone Wild" DVD and prepare
for an education. Dank Boy also enjoys referring to the Folsom Street
Fair and the Love Fest both of which take place in San Francisco
annually. He refers to nudity at these events as proof of the
debauched nature of the gay community. But neither of these events
are gay events. They are both events in which both heterosexual and
gays participate which anyone who has ever attended would know.
Then we have the Dank One's claim that virtually all gays are HIV+.
The absurdity of that claim is so easily proven that it is hardly
worth addressing. The CDC reports that there are roughly 1.1 million
people in the United States who have HIV or AIDS in the United
States. 53% of that number are MSM which includes homosexuals,
bisexuals and others who have had sex with men. Now if we take the
estimates of men in the USA who are exclusively homosexual at the
lower rate of 2% of the US population then there are over 6 million
gay men in the United States of which roughly 500,000 would be HIV
positive or have AIDS. So the percentage of the total gay population
would be closer to 9% which is too high but nothing like what the Dank
Boy asserts.
Another issue which has confronted the gay community is that of the
uise of illicit drugs. The Dank Boy has claimed that such use is
rampart in the gay community. Now he has not cited any data to
support this but then again the data is not easy to come by.
Estimates by the SF Public Health based upon surveys they have done
show that roughly 10% of gay identifying men in the San Francisco
reported using meth or some other performance enhancing drug during a
six month period. This is of course a matter of concern because
people under the influence of drugs typically engage in high risk
sexual behaviours. So a figure of 10% is way too high. But again is
far lower than the numbers claimed by the Dank One.
Finally we have the Dank One's claims of seeing or otherwise being
exposed to sexual activity in San Francisco during his trips there.
Now one wonders given all the negative experience he has had over the
years that he returns to the "scene of the crime" so to speak but he
apparently does. He has recently again reasserted his claim of some
man exposing himself to the Dank One and trying to engage in sexual
activity with him. Now this story has evolved over time. Now he
claims that he was not seated on the bench in front of the entrance to
the Church Street Muni station when the man came up dropped his
drawers and tried to get the Dank One to engage in a little fellatio.
He now claims the bench was green which is a claim he only made after
he did a search on the google earth website, well after his initial
story which had the bench at the intersection of Church and Market and
then possibly somewhere else as he was "too intoxicated" to remember
clearly. Now to anyone unfamiliar with San Francisco, Market Street
is the main street in San Francisco. Church is another major street
and the intersection he mentions is one of the busiest in the city.
It is a major commercial area packed with restaurants, stores
including a 24 hour grocery, and a major transit artery where roughly
10 major public transit lines meet. There is constant pedestrian
traffic and vehicular all along this area. It is also well patrolled
by the police. Imagine someone sitting down and exposing themselves
to another person across the street from a 24 hour restaurant and a 24
hour super market along a major transportation artery. On a public
bench in full view of everyone passing by on foot or in vehicles. In
front a subway station entrance. I think you can see how I doubt his
claim.
anonymous
>
> Our friend the Dank Boy delights in announcing his supposed sexual
> orientation while stating all manner of lies and half truths about his
> experiences and the gay community in general. He has told so many
> whoppers he has a hard time keeping track of them all and thus makes
> errors which further confirm that nothing this troll says is accurate.
>
males, specifically the "the sexual human response in adult males".
Considering the time period and the education and open discussions of
sex with respect to males at that time,
it is unclear just how accurate the data was. But that is not what
makes the report so important. What is important is what flows from
that time period and the history that followed. Currently, we have
famous people declaring they are homosexual. We have television shows
that deal with homosexual males. We have lots of homosexual sports,
restaurants, movies, medical doctors who practice is predominately
homosexual, homosexual newspapers, books, and legal homosxual marriages
in Canada and to some degree around the world and such didn't exist at
the time of kinsey's research and publication of his work. I men why
would Canadians or people in any other country care if there are 2 homos
per every 1000 hets or 400 homos per every thousand hets. In a country
with mexicans and blacks, do the population care how many mexicans or
how many backs there are per white people? No, of course not. The
votes of that country say, hey, regardless of your ethnicity or race,
you have the same rights as every other citizen in America or whatever
country with such a population is being discussed.
Women didn't get the vote because they made up half the population nor
did they get the right of abortion because they were non-catholic.
Women got the right to vote and have an aborton because the population
felt all women should have those rights.
> For example the Dank Boy claims that Kinsey said that 10% of the male
> population was homosexual. That is not what Kinsey said at all.
> Kinsey stated that his data showed that at the time of the survey 10%
> of those interviewed stated they were "more or less exclusively"
> engaging in same sex activities at the time of the interview. He also
> reported roughly 33% of all males reported having had a same sex
> sexual experience to the point of orgasm at least in their lifetimes.
> 8% of males were exclusively homosexual for at least three years
> between the ages of 16 and 55. However only 4% of males and 1-3% of
> females had been exclusively homosexual after the onset of adolescence
> up to the time of the interview. Later studies of the same data or new
> data have shown different percentages for the number of males who are
> exclusively homosexual with a low of 1% and and high of 4% but most
> were around the 2 to 3% level.
>
> So the Dank One has shown he cannot be relied upon to even report on
> information readily available on the internet.
>
> Then we have the Dank Boy's claim about the rampart promiscuity among
> gay men. For example when confronted with the quote below he claimed
> it was too low and that most gay men had multiple sex partners daily
> with close to 1,000 sexual partners in a year's time. But the data
> does not support the Dank Boy. First the quote that Dank Boy said was
> too low:
>
Again, it doesn't matter whether a homo has 1 partner a month or 1,000
partners a month.
Totally irrelevant. As any married woman will tell you, when her
husband comes home and informs her she should gor for an STD test
because he didn't wear a condom, that puts her life at risk.
So you wear a condom, you can have sex as often as you like because you
are not at risk of transmitting any diseases sexually whether one is
homo or het.
I mean how good is it if a guy is 18, has his first sexual experience
with a woman and it runs out she gets pregnant and he gets herpes (for
life, of course) - because he didn't wear a condom. See why the number
of partners doesn't matter but safe sex does matter.
> > Just a few years after the publication of this report, Dr.
> > William Foege, the director of the Centers for Disease Control,
> > stated: "The average AIDS victim has had 60 different sexual
> > partners in the past twelve months." In contrast with this,
> > "the average heterosexual male has — throughout his life — from
> > five to nine sex partners."
Excellent. Of course, hets usually marry before they are 25 and homos
usually aren't out, at least historically, until they are 25 or older,
but as is stated the number never matter, how you protect your does.
>
> Dr. Foege did indeed do a study and publish the results of the same in
> 1981. In that study he stated the following:
Oh, yes, lots of people like to quote fecal matter and STDs and it has
no relevance to anything. I mean magic johnson, tiger woods, and some
football player who acutually spread aids to a number of women, mean it
is irrelevant. The only thing to be learned about anyone who has an
STD, is that transmission is prevented if the partner wears a condom.
We know for a fact that millions and billions of guys and women who are
heterosexual don't wear condom and have unprotected sec everday. The
majority of those people usually get no STDs or they get herpes because
we all know how easy it is to get a coldsore. Herpes puts women at huge
risk for ovarian cancer, I think, but certainly cancer of vaginal area.
>
> " Epidemiologists identified a subset of homosexual men who were more
> likely to have many anonymous sexual partners, to have a history of a
> variety of sexually transmitted diseases, and to engage in sexual
> practices that increased the risk of exposure to small amounts of
> blood and feces. The most important variable was that AIDS patients
> had more male sexual partners than the controls, an average of 60 per
> year for patients compared with 25 per year for controls."
>
> In other words the people who in 1981 were being diagnosed with AIDS
> had several common factors that made them different from other members
> of the gay community. Among these was the fact that they had an
> average of 60 sexual partners a year as compared with the average of
> 25 for non-infected homosexuals. Now this study was done of
> homosexual males between 18 and 40 years of age in 1981 before the
> dynamics of HIV
> transmission were completely understood. It was asking these men to
> self report sexual contacts during the 60's, and 70's a time of much
> freer sexual activity in the United States.
Okay, it is important to put context. When aids was first discovered
homos were dying like flies. and nobody knew why exactly. Then over
time tests were discovered and the only prevention for aids then or now
is to wear a condom. So for the first time in history, homos wear a
condom. Hets had been wearing condoms to prevent pregnancy but homos
didn't have to worry about that and the other stds were eliminated by
antibiotics with the exception of herpes but herpes can cause cancer in
males and females but for the most part is pretty harmless. It isn't a
reportable disease in spite of it being incurable. and additionally they
don't test the blood for herpes because too many people have it and they
need the blood donors. And when you need blood to save your life,
herpes isn't going to kill you so it is a non-issue.
>
> If we go forward a few years the data is different. MSM enrolled in a
> study published in the American Journal of Public Health in 2003
> reported a median number of seven male sex partners over the previous
> six months. Koblin, et. al., “High-Risk Behaviors Among Men Who Have
> Sex With Men in Six U.S. Cities: Baseline Data from the EXPLORE
> Study,” American Journal of Public Health, June 2003, vol. 93, no. 6,
> pg. 928. A 1997 study of young gay and bisexual men found that 91
> percent reported an average of 43 male sexual partners in their
> lifetime. Seage, George, Kenneth Mayer MD), et. al., “HIV and
> Hepatitis B Infection and Risk Behavior in Young Gay and Bisexual
> Men,” Public Health Reports, v. 112 (2) March-April 1997, pg. 161.
>
The only phrase relevant here is "young gay and bisexual men. I will
add here, hets, too. If you talk to young het men, they finding women
every night of the week on Craig's list. Now, homos have had contact
clubs, lists, since the beginning of time. Single guys used to have to
travel and married guys were spared because they had a wife and family.
So homo or het guys would travel globally. Hets just have to walk into
a bar and the women are falling out of their clothes to have sex. Homos
had to be careful
especially in conservative parts of the planet and smaller communities.
Homos only had a weekend or a week to find a sex partner, one night
stand if you will, so contacts clubs were created via postal initally so
that if one landed in spain a 9:00 p.m. the homo could check his bags,
walk 3 blocks and find gay men in bar, in the park or at the home of Mr.
x. With all the religous people trashing homos with half truths, etc.
hets have figured out they can have a steady girlfriend who they take to
dinner once a week on Saturday night and get sex for the week after all
is said and done and paid for, and after they take their girlfriend
home, the can follow up on their Craig's list dates from Sundays to
Friday nights as long as they wear a condom. Now, I knew some het men
did this, but as Tiger Woods points out through his actions, and the
young het guys that I know, catholics, too, lots of het men are having
lots of partners. Oh, and lots of these women are from very, very,
very, very conservative backgrounds, are students that came to North
America to learn English and screw like rabbits 7 nights a week making
up for lost time before they have to return to their conservative
countries, convervative towns within the countries and their
conservating parents and family.
> Now let us consider the data for heterosexuals. First John Hopkins
> School of Medicine published a study which showed that a significant
> subset of heterosexual males engaged in a significantly higher number
> of sexual contacts than other heterosexual males. Not surprisingly
> these men tend to be younger and unmarried. There also seems to be a
> much higher rate of marital infidelity than previous thought. Another
> study by the University of California at Irvine showed that
> heterosexual males routinely did not report or under reported their
> contacts with prostitutes when asked about the number of sexual
> partners they had in a year. Males stated they had an average of 1.5
> sexual partners a year between age 18 and age 59 or 61.5 on average.
> However the numbers did not jibe with studies done of female,
> heterosexual prostitutes who reported an average of 869 partners a
> year. The ratio of female heterosexual prostitutes to the general
> population in 2005 was determined to be 22:100,000 based upon surveys
> of arrest records. Using the reported statistics and some followup
> questioning they found that only 15 to 23% of heterosexual males who
> used the services of prostitutes actually included those liaisons in
> their number of sexual contacts. A further study found that when
> adjusted the number of average partners was higher with 22% of males
> admitting to 15 or more sexual liaisons [with prostitutes included] in
> a given year.
It doesn't matter whether a woman charges for her sexual services or
not. It doesn't matter whether the guy is a catholic or a
non-believer. Sex is sex. I have never met a priest socially who
didn't admit to having sex while being a priest. They may exist but I
have never met any.
>
> Now I do not mean to suggest that the number of sexual partners
> between the two groups is exactly even on average. But what I am
> pointing out is that the rate in 1981 for non-infected gay men was
> significantly lower than it was for infected men. Further the
> infected men engaged in a number of highly risky sexual activities
> that their counterparts did not engage in which increased the risk of
> exposure to certain bodily fluids. After 18 years of education in the
> gay community there has been a decline in the number of unsafe sexual
> practices as a whole. Unfortunately certain elements of the
> population have not been reached by those efforts, primarily those in
> the minority communities and those deep in the closet who do not
> typically have access to the media and other campaigns used to educate
> people in the gay community. I am also pointing out that the more
> recent studies of heterosexual activity is not as restricted as some
> would like to make it out to be.
Not relevant. The only thing that is relevant is that the best efforts
of society are
made to educate people to wear a condom to prevent STDs regardless of
whether one is homo or het.
Oh, and hets use lots of drugs, too.
Steve Brown
Viggo Mortensen is a homosexual.
https://charbonneau-gomery-corruption-canada.blogspot.com/2023/08/viggo-mortensen-is-gay.html