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Splash Mtn. vs. Jurassic Park the Ride

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Sneaky

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Nov 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/7/97
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Recently I rode the Jurassic Park the Ride and I enjoyed that ride so
much. Much wetter than Splash Mountain. I have noticed that JPR
(Jurassic Park the Ride) has better layout with wonderful environment
etc. Disney's Splash Mountain was so simple and little dull. They could
do better than that. Anyone has comment on that??


Mr. Universal

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Nov 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/7/97
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I do!
I too think that Jurassic Park is leaps and bounds above Disneyland's
Splash Mt.... HOWEVER I DON'T think it can even compare with the WDW
version. There are a LOT of details on the Jurassic Park ride, especialy
once you get into the "backstage" area. On Splash, there is a lot to
look at on the outside, but once you are on the inside, there is very
little to hold your attention. There are a lot of breaks in the ride. To
top that off, the boats move so incredibly fast on Splash that you have
no time to pick up on anything inside. The story is a little easier to
pick up on at JP, and the drop and animatronics are much much much
better. HOWEVER Splash Mt. has a much nicer appearence (especialy when
all the grass is green) and the queue is very well done. But on this
one, I'm affraid the edge would have to go to Jurassic park.

Patrick Jandorf

Bartender Sam

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Nov 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/8/97
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Sneaky wrote:

> Recently I rode the Jurassic Park the Ride and I enjoyed that ride so
> much. Much wetter than Splash Mountain. I have noticed that JPR
> (Jurassic Park the Ride) has better layout with wonderful environment
> etc. Disney's Splash Mountain was so simple and little dull. They
> could
> do better than that. Anyone has comment on that??

I think you can't honestly compare the two rides.... all they have in
common are water and a drop... both go for a different effect.

Sam
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Sneaky wrote:
>
> Recently I rode the Jurassic Park the Ride and I enjoyed that ride so
> much. Much wetter than Splash Mountain. I have noticed that JPR
> (Jurassic Park the Ride) has better layout with wonderful environment
> etc. Disney's Splash Mountain was so simple and little dull. They could
> do better than that. Anyone has comment on that??

You are all high, JP and Splash are 2 very diffrent rides but JP is a
drop. Its tidal wave from magic mountian with 16 ok looking dinos. The
ride is beatuful to look at that is do to a great greens department but
the ride as a hole is not up to par.

JohnL44383

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Nov 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/8/97
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O.K. in defense of Splash Mountain (my favorite DL ride), Disneyland put this
log flume together long before JP, it has incredible theming, and is over five
minutes long. I particularly love the unexpected "speed bump" in the laughing
place, that catches me by surprise every time I ride it. The ride is not
supposed to "scare" you in the same way as Jurassic Park.
Jurassic Park is well done, but short and too wet.

DLoriso

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Nov 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/8/97
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The only thing missing from JP is an audioanimatronic Julianne Moore (WOLF
WHISTLE)

Sneaky

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Nov 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/8/97
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Please remember that there's couple of people who loves to be scared. Some people
love to be triller. I do impressed with DL's Splash Mountain.

Sneaky

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Nov 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/8/97
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No argument from me!

MadHattR78 wrote:

> >
> >Recently I rode the Jurassic Park the Ride and I enjoyed that ride so
> >much. Much wetter than Splash Mountain. I have noticed that JPR
> >(Jurassic Park the Ride) has better layout with wonderful environment
> >etc. Disney's Splash Mountain was so simple and little dull. They could
> >do better than that. Anyone has comment on that??
>

> Well, I think it's safe to say that they are two completely different rides
> altogether, spawned from two different genres......I love Splash Mountian,
> while Jurrasic Park I found to be well done, I too love the environment of it,
> it's thriller, but also very short. I also find that most of the dinosaur
> audio-animatronic figures are in a constant state of disrepair. I'be ridden it
> 4 times on 4 separate occasions and have yet to see the Ultrasaurus that
> "interrupts" the tour, sending you into the Velociraptor paddock. Splash
> Mountain, for it's lack of an explosive drenching water wave, makes up in
> quality, length, and pure entertainment.
>
> Jeff "The Mad Hatter" Miller


Sneaky

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Nov 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/8/97
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I never been to WDW before. However I cannot comparing WDW's version and DL's
version. But it was interesting to hear about that.

Mr. Universal wrote:

> Sneaky wrote:
> >
> > Recently I rode the Jurassic Park the Ride and I enjoyed that ride so
> > much. Much wetter than Splash Mountain. I have noticed that JPR
> > (Jurassic Park the Ride) has better layout with wonderful environment
> > etc. Disney's Splash Mountain was so simple and little dull. They could
> > do better than that. Anyone has comment on that??
>

DooomBuggy

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Nov 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/8/97
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I have been on Jurrasic Park 3 times, and it's never completely worked any of
those times. I think the idea is great, and has possibilities, but I'm always
disapointed with the lack of dinos toward the end of the ride! The ride
should be like being inside a movie, it should kind of build to a big finnish.
I think the begining is good with first encountering the "docile" dinos, but
when you get into the area with the carnivores, there just aren't that many of
them! When you're going up that long tunnel, there should be an onslaught of
raptors! And when you're floating in that pool before the drop, they should
be poping out of the water! It should be scary like the movie! In other
words, the basic stuff is there, just turn up the volume!
On the other hand, I LOVE Splash Mountain! I love the the characters, the
look of the mountain, the scenes inside, the drops, the water, the vultures,
the river boat, everything! I think the feel of being inside a cartoon is
great with the scenes inside, but I've always been a sucker for "dark rides".
Maybe it's my unquenchable love for all things Disney, but Splash is by far a
more satisfying experience than Jurrasic. And, for those of you who haven't
been, and I hate to say this, but the WDW Splash is much better. More
characters, longer, and a more detailed. It has singing bird houses, a
character called Brer Frog (who tells a story in the queue) and an extra drop.
If you're a fan of Splash, you must!


"there's no turning back now!"


Nick Morgan

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Nov 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/8/97
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Let me preface my comments by saying that I have not ridden of JPR, but
I have ridden many times on Splash. I have spoken to many who have
ridden both.
The general consensus is that JPR lacks the "little things" that go
along with theming. For instance, everyone says you can tell everything
that is going to happen, because they don't bother to hide the mechanics
of the ride. You can see glimpses of the backstage areas, and you can
see the mechanisms of the attraction.
Contrast this to the audioanimatronics of Splash. They are fantastic
(of course, I was a big fan of America Sings, and that is where most of
the animatronics came from).

The second big difference is that I don't want to get soaked on a ride.
Splash Mountain is just about perfect. People tell me they have gotten
less wet in a shower, than they did on JPR. It seems completely soaking
the guests was a goal of Universal, and I just don't need that.

But I have heard great things about both attractions.


Sneaky wrote:

> Recently I rode the Jurassic Park the Ride and I enjoyed that ride so
> much. Much wetter than Splash Mountain. I have noticed that JPR
> (Jurassic Park the Ride) has better layout with wonderful environment
> etc. Disney's Splash Mountain was so simple and little dull. They
> could
> do better than that. Anyone has comment on that??

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MadHattR78 wrote in message
<19971108051...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...


>>
>>Recently I rode the Jurassic Park the Ride and I enjoyed that ride so
>>much. Much wetter than Splash Mountain. I have noticed that JPR
>>(Jurassic Park the Ride) has better layout with wonderful environment
>>etc. Disney's Splash Mountain was so simple and little dull. They could
>>do better than that. Anyone has comment on that??


If you like THIS version of JPR, you should have seen it the way it was
designed!! Universal made some changes that did NOT turn out well, but the
final drop is spectacular, if short. BUT as someone else points out they are
two VERY differently themed rides. Sort of like comparing Peter Pan to E.T.
just because both fly. I like JPR's drop, but the music and feel of SM
better.

Scotty


Ross Plesset

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Nov 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/8/97
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Until I read this thread I knew of 6 people who went on Jurassic Park,
only 2 of whom liked it. Based on what I've heard here it sounds like
it's worth going on. I just wish Universal Studios wasn't so expensive
to get into.

As far as Splash Mountain goes, I love the interior theming but I wish
more original characters had been used instead of recycling most of the
America Sings figures...In my opinion, the drop inside the laughing
place is highpoint of the ride. I think that the parts where your
outside could be jazzed up.

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MadHattR78

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Nov 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/8/97
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>
>Recently I rode the Jurassic Park the Ride and I enjoyed that ride so
>much. Much wetter than Splash Mountain. I have noticed that JPR
>(Jurassic Park the Ride) has better layout with wonderful environment
>etc. Disney's Splash Mountain was so simple and little dull. They could
>do better than that. Anyone has comment on that??

Well, I think it's safe to say that they are two completely different rides

SMJR4

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Nov 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/9/97
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>The second big difference is that I don't want to get soaked on a ride.
>Splash Mountain is just about perfect. People tell me they have gotten
>less wet in a shower, than they did on JPR. It seems completely soaking
>the guests was a goal of Universal, and I just don't need that.

I see the main difference is that Splash Mtn. is a family ride, JP is not. Not
only do you get wetter on JP, but it, like the movies it's based on, may be
too frightening for young children. My kids won't ride JP, but love Splash.
BTW, WDW's version of Splash leaves you much drier than DL's version, which is
a bummer in the heat of summer. Also, in addition to another drop at WDW, the
story is easier to follow because the boats move slower. I especially like
the animatronic Brer Rabbit which hops alongside the log.

Larax2

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Nov 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/9/97
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>>>>>If you like THIS version of JPR, you should have seen it the way it was
designed!! Universal made some changes that did NOT turn out well, but the
final drop is spectacular, if short. BUT as someone else points out they are
two VERY differently themed rides. Sort of like comparing Peter Pan to E.T.
just because both fly. I like JPR's drop, but the music and feel of SM
better.
<<<<<<<

Hopefully Universal's Islands of Adventure version which will be expanded and
updated will go back to the "original" designs. (It's rumored that the IOA
WILL be the original design) USH had to cut several scenes including a smaller
backwards drop, a Pternadon Aviary, and a failed attempt to save the boat by
an employee. USH didn't have enough room to fit the entire ride in. The JP
River Adventure was originally supposed to be put in here at USF since they
have almost unlimited space, but was switched with Terminator 2:3D at the last
moment when the idea to create a Jurassic Park Island for IOA came up. USH
couldn't fit the entire ride in, so they had to remove a few scenes from
Landmark Entertainment's original ride designs.

FabDisBabe

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Nov 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/9/97
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>O.K. in defense of Splash Mountain (my favorite DL ride), Disneyland put this
> log flume together long before JP, it has incredible theming, and is over
>five
> minutes long. I particularly love the unexpected "speed bump" in the
>laughing
> place, that catches me by surprise every time I ride it. The ride is not
> supposed to "scare" you in the same way as Jurassic Park.
>Jurassic Park is well done, but short and too wet.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I love the drop on the inside of the mountain best, too.....mostly when it's in
the Knott's Berry Farm Log Ride. In terms of animation and story, the laurels
definitely go to WDW's Splash Mountain. Look at the castle when you drop and
say bye-bye to your stomach!

Fab


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Figment312

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Sneaky S...@disneyland.com wrote:

>Recently I rode the Jurassic Park the Ride and I enjoyed that ride so
>much. Much wetter than Splash Mountain. I have noticed that JPR
>(Jurassic Park the Ride) has better layout with wonderful environment
>etc. Disney's Splash Mountain was so simple and little dull. They could
>do better than that. Anyone has comment on that??

then Jeff "The Mad Hatter" Miller wrote:

>Well, I think it's safe to say that they are two completely different rides
>altogether, spawned from two different genres......I love Splash Mountian,
>while Jurrasic Park I found to be well done, I too love the environment of it,
>it's thriller, but also very short. I also find that most of the dinosaur
>audio-animatronic figures are in a constant state of disrepair. I'be ridden it
>4 times on 4 separate occasions and have yet to see the Ultrasaurus that
>"interrupts" the tour, sending you into the Velociraptor paddock. Splash
>Mountain, for it's lack of an explosive drenching water wave, makes up in
>quality, length, and pure entertainment.

Sneaky...I have to disagree with you. I went on Jurassic Park, and even
though I did enjoy it, what Jeff wrote about it not all working is SO TRUE!
I went on it 4 times in the same day, and each ride was totally different.
I have no idea what the Ultrasaurus is supposed to be, but from what Jeff
said, it wasn't there. The first time, some things worked, but it didn't
seem too scary, so we convinced my neice to go with us, and it was scarier
the second time. The third time was later in the day, and absolutely no
dinosaurs worked at all. Then we got back in line and were back on in less
than 10 minutes and most of the dinosaurs present worked, but it was still
different than any of the other times. This was October 1996. Obviously,
from what Jeff says, and what others who have visited Universal have said,
JP is absolutely NEVER the same ride twice, even if its twice in the same
day. Yes, that can be fun, but if not everything is working, then it's not
as thrilling as it should be, either. Yes, I did actually enjoy it (after
all I went on it 4 times), but I still enjoy Splash Mountain so much more.
JP isn't like Indy, where it's designed to give you a different ride every
time. JP is supposed to be somewhat scary, and the effects are supposed to
work so that everybody gets the same thrill from the experience, but that
isn't happening. I'd love to ride it sometime when everything actually
worked, and see what it's really meant to be like. Just my opinion...YMMV.


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Mr. Universal

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Nov 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/9/97
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Yes, folks, JP has had quite a rough time over the years, but they seem
to have straightened most of the bugs out of most of the dinos (biting
toungue because on last trip three dinos didn't work). Keep in mind that
the animatronics on JP are very advanced and as such are prone to a lot
of break downs, however when they do work, they are absolutely
spectacular. I read that one person thought that the pool in frong of
the drop was boring and dull. Maybe the second T-rex wasn't working? If
it was, you should have seen a full size T-rex from head to toe jump out
of the waterfall directly in front of you and grap at you. The pool in
front of the drop is empty to build suspense. You know the drop is
coming up, but you aren't sure exacltly what is behind that huge
waterfall, and then, bamm-o, there is the T-rex. But, for heavens sake,
if you are dissapointed with the Dinos being broken, head on up to guest
relations in the upper lot and tell them abou it. They will ber MORE
than happy to give you re-ads for your next trip in which hopefuly most
of the dinos (especialy the second T-rex) will be working. Also, one has
to admit that even though the Splash animatronics have sentimental value
(hey, I loved American Sings just as much as you did) they for the most
part suck. Disney did a GREAT job with the animatronics at the WDW
splash Mt. while still using the characters from America sings. The
result is a much more enjoyable ride that doesn't feel like they placed
characters somewhere just for the sake of putting them there. Believe
me, the WDW splash is incredibly better than Disneyland's. In fact, I
like WDW's Splash more than Jurassic Park. Head on down to Florida and
check it out for yourselves.

Patrick Jandorf

FabDisBabe

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Nov 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/11/97
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Just barely staying on topic....
I got some info today (thanks Michelene) on the Islands of Adventure. Wow.
There is an advance passport which you apparently have to insert the pages
into something (Oh, Mr. Cottrell, can you help me here?)and a cool fold-out
map of the entire resort.
Area descriptions follow:
Port of Entry: It is a saying as old as time...A journey of a thousand miles
must begin with a single step. An adventure of a lifetime must then begin
with a very bold leap. Summoning adventurers from around the world, the Port
of Entry to Universal's Islands of Adventure invites you with the promise of
bold and unique experiences. Here you'll find a bustling bazaar of merchants,
traders and street peddlers offering you treasures and delights gathered from
the four corners of the globe. Wander about and enjoy your stay, because at
the center of this hectic port town stands an ancient colossal lighthouse that
shines the way to new sites, new encounters and five exhilarating new islands.
Welcome to adventure! The most amazing journey of your life is about to
begin!
Marvel Super Hero Island: The city juts into the sky--a monument to the
dynamically unexpected. Within, super-human men and women pit themselves on
the opposite sides of good and evil. And what of the innocent bystanders who
wander into this city? Will they join in to rescue the Statue of Liberty in
the Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man? Will they rocket up through 200
menacing feet of steel only to face the dreadful plunge of Dr. Doom's
FearFall(sm)? Will they be transformed by the slingshot gamma ray booster as
they go from zero to 40 mph in two seconds and launch into the Incredible Hulk
Coaster(sm)? Only those who visit Marvel Super Hero Island will know. To be
continued...
Seuss Landing (sm): What would you say to an extraordinary day? Would you go
with a cat in a very tall hat, or an adventure that's new with Thing One and
Thing Two? What's this you've found - a whirly-go-round with not One Fish or
Two Fish but also Red Fish and Blue Fish. What do you say to a Green Eggs and
Ham Cafe? Would you ring the bell of a Car o-Suess-el filled with Cowfish,
Dog-o-lopes and AquaMopTops? All of these will appear on a day very near from
an island that sings with Seussian things.
Toon Lagoon (sm): It's kooky! It's wacky! It's the knee-slap happy world
(I'm just typing this as I see it, folks) of your favorite cartoon and comic
strip characters. And it's coming to life. Join Dudley Do-Right as he takes
you ten feet below the water in an explosive attempt to save Nell from the
evil Snidely Whiplash in Ripsaw Falls. Travel to Sweethaven and hop aboard
Popeye(R) and Bluto's Bilge-Rat Barges for a sloshy, churning, white-knuckle
raft ride. Then wander down the crazy, colorful Comic Strip Lane. It's all
coming soon, only at Toon Lagoon.
Jurassic Park: Rising from the mist of the earth's primordial past, a
remarkable voyage of discovery awaits. Within the lush tropical jungle of
Isla Nublar, creatures that eons ago roamed the planet in terrifying fashion,
(sic)have returned. Just inside Jurassic Park's gates, the Discovery Center
welcomes guests with demonstrations of actual raptor hatchings. The Jurassic
Park River Adventure(R) takes guests serenely past various dinosaur
habitats--unless a T-Rex gets loose! The Triceratops Encounter allows a
first-ever chance to pet a living, breathing dinosaur. Soar above the
treetops in the Pteranodon Flyer. It's a fantastic journey into the earth's
history you'll never forget.
The Lost Continent: The truly adventurous can now explore a place that sheds
light on the world's oldest mysteries. Travel below the sea and witness a
battle between gods in Poseidon's Fury. Discover an ancient grotto on the
outskirts of a desert marketplace, where you can join a swashbuckling
adventure on The Eighth Voyage of Sinbad. Then enter the dark medieval world
of Merlin and dine in an Enchanted Oak Tavern before you mount one of two
Dueling Dragons in a high-speed roller-coaster battle across the skies in the
wondrous land of the Lost Continent.
Comments to follow on another post.

Larax2

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Nov 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/11/97
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>>>>>I got some info today (thanks Michelene) on the Islands of Adventure.
Wow.
There is an advance passport which you apparently have to insert the pages
into something (Oh, Mr. Cottrell, can you help me here?)and a cool fold-out
map of the entire resort.<<<<<

The preview center at USF has five main rooms each representing the various
islands of IOA. In each there is a themed passport stamp machine, and you can
get a island logo for each of the passport pages. Here are several website
listings if you want to see pictures, overviews, and construction updates-
http://mebweb.simplenet.com/ioa
(IOA overview and construction pics)
http://www.thrillride.com
(An entire overview of the park w/pictures)
http://members.aol.com/itzadapope/
(Under Construction, but does have Construction photos.)
Most of the IOAand Universal Florida press releases can be found at USF's
official page: http://www.usf.com under the news section.

All of the sites are very interesting and the best pages you can find for IOA
and Universal Florida information.

FabDisBabe

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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>Is it just me, or does this sound a heck of a lot better than California
>Adventure?
>
>Patrick "USH" Jandorf
>
>

Double racing looping steel roller coasters. Mmmmm.

DooomBuggy

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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Saw conceptual art for "Islands", and it looks like a glorified Six Flags
park to me. I'll take California Adventure, can't wait! But then again, I'm
a died in the wool Disney fan, and given the choice, I'll take a Disney park
any day!


"...as they appeared in thier coruptable, mortal state."

Patrick Jandorf

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Nov 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/12/97
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DooomBuggy wrote:
>
> Saw conceptual art for "Islands", and it looks like a glorified Six Flags
> park to me. I'll take California Adventure, can't wait! But then again, I'm
> a died in the wool Disney fan, and given the choice, I'll take a Disney park
> any day!

Beg to differ, but DCA looks a lot more like a glorified Six Flags to
me. At least the rides at Islands of Adventure have show and story
elements to them, whereas everything at DCA is off the shelf, except for
the custom made bread factory.

Patrick Jandorf

Larax2

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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>>>>>>>First of all, Universal knows what they're doing. You'd be much more
excited
about IOA if you visited the preview art, instead of viewing a few concept art
pics.<<<<<,

That should be preview CENTER not preview art.

Boneyard 0

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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Bottom line:

JP the ride: Scarier (especially the T-Rex head that chomps at you) and wetter.

Splash Mountain: More fun (more drops) and catchier tunes.

'Nuff said.
Bone...@aol.com

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