Pyro Pollution...
Ben
their effects on nature, and on the quality of life of those who live near the
parks.
I'd heard about Anaheim residents complaining about the noise and stuff caused
by DL's frequent fireworks displays, but I tended to brush them off. "What,
like you didn't know Disneyland was there when you moved in?" Not to mention
the tax breaks.
However, this article brought up more interesting points, such as the possible
effects these shows have on the health of people around the parks (not just air
quality, but hearing loss, and even fallout seeping into the water supply), and
almost more importantly, the effects these shows might have on the environment.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a tree-hugger by any stretch of the imagination,
but I do think that preserving the earth is an important thing to do.
Anyway, it's an interesting read. It's a HUGE article and for some reason I
can't get the link to post right now so I'm gonna paste it all here.
*********
Fallout Over Disneyland
by Amy Davis & Gar Smith
Disneyland has been shooting pyrotechnic chemicals into the evening sky since
shortly after the amusement park opened in 1955. In the beginning, the
fireworks shows were confined to weekends and school vacations. In 2000, the
park added its third fireworks show. With the debut of Disneyland's New
California Adventures, the blazing tracers and wall-shaking blasts of exploding
skyrockets have become nearly nightly occurrences.
Many long-time park neighbors claim that the trajectories of the
skyrockets used to be very high but that, in recent years, the rockets have
been bursting so low that smoke and cinders become trapped beneath the local
inversion layer. Park officials insist that "nothing has changed."
On summer weekends, Disneyland schedules three fireworks shows a night.
Park officials recently asked the City of Anaheim for permission to add another
60 nights of pyrotechnics per year. Disneyland officials claim that the park's
fire-in-the-sky shows last about five minutes. Neighbors, however, have clocked
shows lasting from ten to 15 minutes during the summer tourist season.
In the battle over tourist dollars, pyrotechnics are being dispersed with
greater frequency. Southern California tourist attractions like Edison Field,
Knott's Berry Farm and the Santa Monica Pier all have adopted pyrotechnics
displays to increase attendance. San Diego's Sea World plans to set off
fireworks shows 150 nights a year.
University of Utah Meteorology Professor Kevin D. Perry tagged the
chemicals used in pyrotechnics and showed that, in mild weather, the heavy
metals traveled 100 km (62 miles) downwind over a two-day period. Among the
pollutants traced were: strontium, vanadium, potassium, titanium, barium,
copper, lead, magnesium, aluminum and zinc. These releases increase toxic
levels in the air mix of the Los Angeles, Orange County, Riverside and San
Diego basins. The environmental impacts are not confined to the air since these
heavy metals also fall into local watersheds.
A study in the June 28, 2001 issue of Nature explained how the superheated
sulfuric gasses released into the sky during pyrotechnic reactions can create
ozone.
The Southern California Air Quality Management District (SCAQMD) has
studied how auto exhaust combines with moist marine air to form airborne
irritants. But fireworks, which release significant amounts of sulfur and soot,
have not been studied by the SCAQMD staff.
On February 19, in response to persistant citizen complaints, SCAQMD
issued a statement declaring that the park's three fireworks shows "did not
exceed any acute or chronic Reference Exposure Level established by the state."
In any event, the SCAQMD pointed out that a 1992 ruling "specifically
exempts 'pyrotechnic equipment, special effects or fireworks" from air quality
permit regulation.
If approved by the California Coastal Commission, SeaWorld would send even
more fireworks into the sky, peppering coastal waters with chemical fallout.
SeaWorld's existing displays are already plaguing the theme park's neighbors.
As resident Dino Russo complained to the Los Angeles Times, "Nobody wants to do
a chemical analysis of this."
It's a Smelly World, After All
The City of Anaheim has made no attempt to reduce or regulate the fireworks
fallout, despite the letters and calls from Disneyland's downwind neighbors who
have complained about the noise, smell and debris from the park. The city's
lack of action may be explained by the fact that Disneyland provides a
significant source of municipal tax revenue. Anaheim pulls in revenue from a
sales tax on every item sold in the park.
Anaheim officials respond by noting that Disneyland has broken no laws.
The city can say this because there are no laws restricting pyrotechnic
pollution. Anaheim defines excessive noise as being a "continuous sound"
lasting ten minutes or longer at 60 decibels or higher. Even though the
Disneyland displays can last as long as 15 minutes, explosive bursts from
fireworks only last a second, so they are not covered by the law.
The National Institutes of Health warns that firecrackers (which can
produce 145 decibels) can cause hearing loss at a single exposure. Disneyland,
however, is not cited for explosions that are much louder than firecrackers.
This noise does not stop at park boundaries.
The removal of sound-muffling urban "softscape" (trees, lawns, bushes) and
the increase in "hardscape" (buildings, roads, parking lots) has magnified the
"sound bounce" of the exploding rockets throughout the Central Orange County
region. Disneyland has planted new palm trees and decorative plants, but these
additions have failed to match the sound-softening effect of the original
uprooted foliage.
While airports such as Los Angeles International recognize their
responsibility to compensate neighborhoods impacted by aircraft noise,
for-profit entertainment parks are not held to the same level of
accountability.
Hey, That's Not Pixie Dust!
In September 2001, Compaq Computer Corp. sponsored the mounting of a
spectacular new pyrotechnic show at Disneyland, "Believe... There's Magic in
The Stars." A Compaq press release hailed the show as "the largest fireworks
display" in the park's history.
While the new show may draw "Oohs" and "Aahs" from park visitors, it
elicits "Ughs" and "Yucks" from the park's besieged neighbors. On show nights,
it is impossible to see the stars - let alone the "magic" - as clouds of acrid
smoke move through the neighborhood, so thick the smoke obscures street lights.
In response to citizen's complaints, Anaheim Fire Department Chief Jeff
Bowman replies that his department "does not have the resources, the knowledge
or the wherewithal to review the fallout."
Disney, which does have the wherewithal, prepared its own study. It
concluded that the fallout would cause a cancer risk to fewer than two people
out of a million.
An investigation by the Daily Titan, the California State University at
Fullerton student newspaper, painted a grim picture of the downwinders' life.
"Every night for 200 straight days..., the stench of eye-watering, sulfur-laden
black smoke has made living downwind of Disneyland unbearable" for the families
whose low-income neighborhood adjoins "The Happiest Place on Earth."
When night falls, families are forced to "shelter in place" as the clear
summer night air is replaced with "a dark, smoggy haze often 10-stories-high
and half-a-mile wide."
"My wife has asthma, and I have two kids that have asthma," resident
Alejandro Robles, told the Titan. "When the fireworks go off, it really affects
them and they have to go inside the house."
"When the fireworks explode, the neighborhood turns into a wartime movie
set," the Titan related. "People start to run for cover as ashes from the
fireworks rain onto their cars and homes. Car alarms whistle and scream as dogs
yelp and babies cry in the darkness."
Some residents have experienced disturbing "flash-backs" to their days as
combat soldiers in the Vietnam War.
Disneyland refuses to release any information on the ingredients that go
into its nightly fireworks shows. Pyro Spectaculars Inc., which makes
Disneyland's fireworks, also refuses to divulge what goes into their products.
Officials at the state's Occupational Health and Safety Commission
informed the Titan's reporters that "it is not [the agency's] responsibility to
handle complaints or to divulge information to the general public." Some
politicians, however, are starting to take note of residents' complaints. State
Assemblyman Ken Maddox and US Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez have expressed
interest in the neighbors' plight.
While Disneyland's managers may not be overly concerned about
quality-of-life issues in the neighborhoods surrounding the park, they are very
solicitous of the wellbeing of their paying customers. During the shows, large
sections of the park are closed to the public because of the danger posed by
falling debris. Afterwards, park employees quickly move in with special
heavy-duty vacuums to remove all traces of the blackened, smelly debris before
visitors are allowed back inside.
Mouse Catarrhs
The damage to the paint jobs on residents' cars is readily apparent but the
damage to their health is not. The sulfur in the smoke can combine with
moisture to create sulfuric acid, which destroys painted surfaces. The sulfuric
acid - mixed with a witch's brew of heavy metals - eventually falls to the
ground and seeps into the water table.
These heavy metals bio-accumulate, says California State Fullerton
environmental chemist Harold Rogers. "If you are exposed to it over a long
period of time... it gets into the body," Rogers told the Titan. "It could take
years, even decades, before a body starts to show symptoms."
A realistic assessment of the damage to people living downwind would
require hearing exams and costly blood tests, which the area's low-income
residents cannot afford.
A neighborhood watchdog group called HOME (Home Owners Maintaining their
Environment) has complained about the smoke, the ash and the damage to their
homes and cars. HOME says these complaints have been ignored.
"SCAQMD officials maintain that they have not received sufficient
complaints to conduct an investigation," the Titan was told. Anaheim Police
Department spokesperson Rick Martinez informed the Titan that the police don't
handle fireworks complaints. "We ask them to deal with Disneyland directly."
When Titan reporters went to Disneyland directly, they discovered that:
"As is their standard practice, officials at the theme park would not comment
on the possible health hazards of their fireworks."
City officials insist that tourism is a clean industry but they can only
make such claims because the pollution these fireworks create has never been
adequately measured.
On February 19, SCAQMD finally agreed to begin testing for "airborne
particulate matter... at suitable locations in the neighborhood areas bordering
the Disneyland Resort."
Amy Davis, a retired teacher, has spent more than $18,000 on insulation and
double-paned windows to protect her home from the reverberations of the Magic
Kingdom. She has campaigned for regulation of the park's fireworks displays and
strict enforcement of the city's anti-noise requirements. Davis, who also is an
artist, was surprised to learn that fireworks contain some of the same heavy
metals that are used in watercolors. These pigments, Davis notes, "came under
regulation in the 1970s." While her watercolors "are contained on paper, behind
glass," fireworks allow the same pigments to be "thrown into the winds."
Copyright Earth Island Journal
~Ben
"People will know, when they see this show, the kind of a guy I am.
They'll recognize just what I stand for and what I just can't stand."
--Rufus Wainright
LaBretBear
the shows!
Tom
*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
Dreamers are making visions come true
If others can do it, so can you
In the world of creativity
There's no end to the possibilities...
Ben
>Hey Ben, enjoy Believe and F! this weekend. But don't breathe to deep during
>the shows!
Thanks Tom. I'll try to save all my heavy breathing for when I get back home.
ocS
Ben wrote:
> I just read an interesting Laughing Place article on theme park pyro shows, and
> their effects on nature, and on the quality of life of those who live near the
> parks.
>
> I'd heard about Anaheim residents complaining about the noise and stuff caused
> by DL's frequent fireworks displays, but I tended to brush them off. "What,
> like you didn't know Disneyland was there when you moved in?" Not to mention
> the tax breaks.
>
> However, this article brought up more interesting points, such as the possible
> effects these shows have on the health of people around the parks (not just air
> quality, but hearing loss, and even fallout seeping into the water supply), and
> almost more importantly, the effects these shows might have on the environment.
>
>
> Don't get me wrong, I'm not a tree-hugger by any stretch of the imagination,
> but I do think that preserving the earth is an important thing to do.
>
> Anyway, it's an interesting read. It's a HUGE article and for some reason I
> can't get the link to post right now so I'm gonna paste it all here.
>
>
I live in Anaheim, California ..
Tell the rest of the residents if they wanna whine .. to shut the fooky up!! :)
>
>
> Fallout Over Disneyland
>
Go visit ... or SHUT UP OVER DISNEYLAND! Summer is here .. almost .. soon it will
be boom boom every night .. :).
Anyone in Anaheim who doesn't like it .. move. PLEASE!
This city has too many whiners already .. a few dozen less would make it more
pleasent. hehe.
>
> by Amy Davis & Gar Smith
>
> Disneyland has been shooting pyrotechnic chemicals into the evening sky since
> shortly after the amusement park opened in 1955.
False.
> In the beginning, the
> fireworks shows were confined to weekends and school vacations.
False.
> In 2000, the
> park added its third fireworks show.
False.
> With the debut of Disneyland's New
> California Adventures, the blazing tracers and wall-shaking blasts of exploding
> skyrockets have become nearly nightly occurrences.
>
False.
>
> Many long-time park neighbors claim that the trajectories of the
> skyrockets used to be very high but that, in recent years, the rockets have
> been bursting so low that smoke and cinders become trapped beneath the local
> inversion layer. Park officials insist that "nothing has changed."
>
False. Man the above journalisitic authoring schmucks are liars!!
>
> On summer weekends, Disneyland schedules three fireworks shows a night.
>
......ahahahahaha.
Don't I WISH!! Doesn't everyone?
> Park officials recently asked the City of Anaheim for permission to add another
> 60 nights of pyrotechnics per year.
YAY! Non Stupid Anaheim residents love them!!
I vote .. you City Councilists better take heed! :)
> Disneyland officials claim that the park's
> fire-in-the-sky shows last about five minutes.
Disney Time IS off from normal time.
> Neighbors, however, have clocked
> shows lasting from ten to 15 minutes during the summer tourist season.
>
About 12 for BTMITS and abotu 15 for BiHM.
New Years Eve and 4th of July are generally longer.
>
> In the battle over tourist dollars, pyrotechnics are being dispersed with
> greater frequency.
Gotta keep those APs happy too! Dammit!
> Southern California tourist attractions like Edison Field,
>
Hahahhaha. Would any smart DLR visiting tourist go to see those idiots at that ugly
stadium?
> Knott's Berry Farm and the Santa Monica Pier all have adopted pyrotechnics
> displays to increase attendance.
......haven't seen the SM Piers(are the Anaheim residents jarking the SM Pier too?)
.. but KBFs pyro and pyro shows are a joke.(Is the Anaheim Git Squad jarking on
them too?)
> San Diego's Sea World plans to set off
> fireworks shows 150 nights a year.
>
Whale shaped!
>
> University of Utah Meteorology Professor Kevin D. Perry tagged the
> chemicals used in pyrotechnics and showed that, in mild weather, the heavy
> metals traveled 100 km (62 miles) downwind over a two-day period. Among the
> pollutants traced were: strontium, vanadium, potassium, titanium, barium,
> copper, lead, magnesium, aluminum and zinc. These releases increase toxic
> levels in the air mix of the Los Angeles, Orange County, Riverside and San
> Diego basins. The environmental impacts are not confined to the air since these
> heavy metals also fall into local watersheds.
>
Innnnnnnnnnteresting.
-some gynecoligist
>
> A study in the June 28, 2001 issue of Nature explained how the superheated
> sulfuric gasses released into the sky during pyrotechnic reactions can create
> ozone.
>
"Do Not Aim at Face"
>
> The Southern California Air Quality Management District (SCAQMD) has
> studied how auto exhaust combines with moist marine air to form airborne
> irritants. But fireworks, which release significant amounts of sulfur and soot,
> have not been studied by the SCAQMD staff.
>
............taxes pay for those managment gits .. they could be replaced or
mal-funded.
>
> On February 19, in response to persistant citizen complaints, SCAQMD
> issued a statement declaring that the park's three fireworks shows "did not
> exceed any acute or chronic Reference Exposure Level established by the state."
> In any event, the SCAQMD pointed out that a 1992 ruling "specifically
> exempts 'pyrotechnic equipment, special effects or fireworks" from air quality
> permit regulation.
>
Anaheim Whiners ... just please move and let the Happy Place be Happy. Eh?
>
> If approved by the California Coastal Commission, SeaWorld would send even
> more fireworks into the sky, peppering coastal waters with chemical fallout.
> SeaWorld's existing displays are already plaguing the theme park's neighbors.
> As resident Dino Russo complained to the Los Angeles Times, "Nobody wants to do
> a chemical analysis of this."
>
Sea World .. who in Anahiem cares? Let the SD peeps whine and get their City
Councils to listen.
>
> It's a Smelly World, After All
>
Wow.. great journalism there. Applied at the Midnight Dumbass or MousePlanet yet?
> The City of Anaheim has made no attempt to reduce or regulate the fireworks
> fallout, despite the letters and calls from Disneyland's downwind neighbors who
> have complained about the noise, smell and debris from the park.
..........why write? Pack up and move the hell away!
> The city's
> lack of action may be explained by the fact that Disneyland provides a
> significant source of municipal tax revenue. Anaheim pulls in revenue from a
> sales tax on every item sold in the park.
>
.......ummm. Ok.
>
> Anaheim officials respond by noting that Disneyland has broken no laws.
> The city can say this because there are no laws restricting pyrotechnic
> pollution. Anaheim defines excessive noise as being a "continuous sound"
> lasting ten minutes or longer at 60 decibels or higher. Even though the
> Disneyland displays can last as long as 15 minutes, explosive bursts from
> fireworks only last a second, so they are not covered by the law.
>
Haw Haw!
>
> The National Institutes of Health warns that firecrackers (which can
> produce 145 decibels) can cause hearing loss at a single exposure. Disneyland,
> however, is not cited for explosions that are much louder than firecrackers.
> This noise does not stop at park boundaries.
>
I can hear them 2.3 miles away. I like the sound. Let them be every night.
>
> The removal of sound-muffling urban "softscape" (trees, lawns, bushes) and
> the increase in "hardscape" (buildings, roads, parking lots) has magnified the
> "sound bounce" of the exploding rockets throughout the Central Orange County
> region. Disneyland has planted new palm trees and decorative plants, but these
> additions have failed to match the sound-softening effect of the original
> uprooted foliage.
>
Trees are cool!
>
> While airports such as Los Angeles International recognize their
> responsibility to compensate neighborhoods impacted by aircraft noise,
> for-profit entertainment parks are not held to the same level of
> accountability.
>
Airplanes are not pyrotechnics. Believe is not 24/7 every 15 minutes.
>
> Hey, That's Not Pixie Dust!
>
Yes it is.
Dumbass.
> In September 2001, Compaq Computer Corp. sponsored the mounting of a
> spectacular new pyrotechnic show at Disneyland, "Believe... There's Magic in
> The Stars." A Compaq press release hailed the show as "the largest fireworks
> display" in the park's history.
>
Actually BiHM is bigger.
>
> While the new show may draw "Oohs" and "Aahs" from park visitors, it
> elicits "Ughs" and "Yucks" from the park's besieged neighbors.
Idiots. Ugh? Yuck?
F U!
> On show nights,
> it is impossible to see the stars -
......stars in Anaheim? WTF?
> let alone the "magic" -
........sniffle! Try going to DL ... eeeeeeeets ooozing magic.
> as clouds of acrid
> smoke
........great quote from "The Trooper" by Iron Maiden
> move through the neighborhood, so thick the smoke obscures street lights.
>
............Welcome to Luminaria!
>
> In response to citizen's complaints, Anaheim Fire Department Chief Jeff
> Bowman replies that his department "does not have the resources, the knowledge
> or the wherewithal to review the fallout."
>
..........duh, wou want us to drive our firetrucks to your hood to watch
Dizzneyland Fahrworks?? (click)
>
> Disney, which does have the wherewithal, prepared its own study.
......adn that is why we can't get a new E Ticket. Anaheim whiney bastards!!
> It
> concluded that the fallout would cause a cancer risk to fewer than two people
> out of a million.
>
.....I like those odds.
>
> An investigation by the Daily Titan, the California State University at
> Fullerton
Fullerton.
They filmed Dr. Caligari there.
> student newspaper, painted a grim picture of the downwinders' life.
>
"Doom! Doom! DOOM!" -Doomsayer
> "Every night for 200 straight days..., the stench of eye-watering, sulfur-laden
> black smoke has made living downwind of Disneyland unbearable" for the families
> whose low-income neighborhood adjoins "The Happiest Place on Earth."
>
Tough shit. YOu live in a 3rd World Neighborhood .. you get a 3rd World Civil War
re-enactment with no injuries(except the dumbass drive bys) 200 straigh nights a
year. KInda of an incentive to better yo life, no? Yes. Not no. Yes.
>
> When night falls, families are forced to "shelter in place" as the clear
> summer night air is replaced with "a dark, smoggy haze often 10-stories-high
> and half-a-mile wide."
>
...........did Lutzy write this?
Is this a Luminaria! review?
>
> "My wife has asthma, and I have two kids that have asthma," resident
> Alejandro Robles, told the Titan.
...move to Santa Ana. More gunfire, less fireworks.
> "When the fireworks go off, it really affects
> them and they have to go inside the house."
>
......your two kids should be asleep by 9:30pm.
>
> "When the fireworks explode, the neighborhood turns into a wartime movie
> set," the Titan related.
Boo fucking/lying(take a choise) hoo.
> "People start to run for cover as ashes from the
> fireworks rain onto their cars and homes. Car alarms whistle
...alarming.
> and scream as dogs
> yelp
.........your journalism and/or opinion - sucks!
> and babies cry in the darkness."
>
....sounds like a Discharge song .. but not as good.
But you are talking about war .. :/
>
> Some residents have experienced disturbing "flash-backs" to their days as
> combat soldiers in the Vietnam War.
>
...............hahahahahahaha.
Not the symptom... but the cause.
......this pair of idiots .. i mean journalists are liars. Must be shooting for
jobs at the OC (reguritating)Register.
>
> Disneyland refuses to release any information on the ingredients that go
> into its nightly fireworks shows.
Magic ..pixie dust .. alot of $$$ .. a cup of Imagination .. some War-time
chemicals. Eye irritant.
> Pyro Spectaculars Inc., which makes
> Disneyland's fireworks, also refuses to divulge what goes into their products.
>
Rightly so.
>
> Officials at the state's Occupational Health and Safety Commission
> informed the Titan's reporters that "it is not [the agency's] responsibility to
> handle complaints or to divulge information to the general public." Some
> politicians, however, are starting to take note of residents' complaints. State
> Assemblyman Ken Maddox and US Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez have expressed
> interest in the neighbors' plight.
>
OHSCA blows.
>
> While Disneyland's managers may not be overly concerned about
> quality-of-life issues in the neighborhoods surrounding the park, they are very
> solicitous of the wellbeing of their paying customers. During the shows, large
> sections of the park are closed to the public because of the danger posed by
> falling debris. Afterwards, park employees quickly move in with special
> heavy-duty vacuums to remove all traces of the blackened, smelly debris before
> visitors are allowed back inside.
>
> Mouse Catarrhs
>
???
That really sucked. What a pack of lies.
.....made me laugh a little though. (yawn)
--
#DisneylandResort /:\ DALnet IRC chat.
LdyRseThrn
Pyro used in Fantasmic! - usually two shows/night.
Also Disneyland HAS tried to limit the smoke and it's effects by trying some
head scratching tactics. They've brought out big fans. Also they tried shooting
water into the air, the smoke clings to the water and drops down on Disney
property.
ocS
Steve Hoskins wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 06:41:42 GMT, ocS
> <2TrainsOnScreamin'Su...@DCA.com> wrote :
>
> >
> >
> >Ben wrote:
> >
> >> I just read an interesting Laughing Place article on theme park pyro shows, and
> >> their effects on nature, and on the quality of life of those who live near the
> >> parks.
> >>
> >> I'd heard about Anaheim residents complaining about the noise and stuff caused
> >> by DL's frequent fireworks displays, but I tended to brush them off. "What,
> >> like you didn't know Disneyland was there when you moved in?" Not to mention
> >> the tax breaks.
> >>
> >> However, this article brought up more interesting points, such as the possible
> >> effects these shows have on the health of people around the parks (not just air
> >> quality, but hearing loss, and even fallout seeping into the water supply), and
> >> almost more importantly, the effects these shows might have on the environment.
> >>
> >>
> >> Don't get me wrong, I'm not a tree-hugger by any stretch of the imagination,
> >> but I do think that preserving the earth is an important thing to do.
> >>
> >> Anyway, it's an interesting read. It's a HUGE article and for some reason I
> >> can't get the link to post right now so I'm gonna paste it all here.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I live in Anaheim, California ..
> >Tell the rest of the residents if they wanna whine .. to shut the fooky up!! :)
>
> I agree...I used to live on Bellevue Drive, which is right across the
> freeway from the Anaheim Sheraton -- right UNDER where the fireworks
> went off. (Yes, people actually spoke English in that neighborhood 25
> years ago....) The fireworks never bothered anyone. Oh yeah, we'd
> find burnt shell casings here and there every now and then, but nobody
> cared.
>
> >>Fallout Over Disneyland
> >>
> >
> >Go visit ... or SHUT UP OVER DISNEYLAND! Summer is here .. almost .. soon it will
> >be boom boom every night .. :).
> >Anyone in Anaheim who doesn't like it .. move. PLEASE!
> >This city has too many whiners already .. a few dozen less would make it more
> >pleasent. hehe.
> >
> >>
> >> by Amy Davis & Gar Smith
> >>
> >> Disneyland has been shooting pyrotechnic chemicals into the evening sky since
> >> shortly after the amusement park opened in 1955.
> >
> >False.
>
> False? You need to read up on the park's history, man.....
>
Name the month, day and year "Fantasy in the Sky Fireworks" debuted at DL. What was the
show before it? What was it's opening and closing dates? :)
>
> >> In the beginning, the
> >> fireworks shows were confined to weekends and school vacations.
> >
> >False.
> >
> >> In 2000, the
> >> park added its third fireworks show.
> >
> >False.
> >
> >> With the debut of Disneyland's New
> >> California Adventures, the blazing tracers and wall-shaking blasts of exploding
> >> skyrockets have become nearly nightly occurrences.
> >>
> >
> >False.
> >
> >>
> >> Many long-time park neighbors claim that the trajectories of the
> >> skyrockets used to be very high but that, in recent years, the rockets have
> >> been bursting so low that smoke and cinders become trapped beneath the local
> >> inversion layer. Park officials insist that "nothing has changed."
> >>
> >
> >False. Man the above journalisitic authoring schmucks are liars!!
> >
> >>
> >> On summer weekends, Disneyland schedules three fireworks shows a night.
> >>
> >
> >......ahahahahaha.
> >Don't I WISH!! Doesn't everyone?
>
> Uh, Believe, and two Fantasmics....that makes three.
>
The 2 F!s cannot be seen(by anyonme outside of Disney property) or their smokey presence
felt from *anywhere* outside DL .. and with the recent 'volume lowerings of the past'
before the recent hiatus .. F! could not be heard outside of DL .. except in parts of
the old Pinocchio parking lot and now potentially part of DtD.
The smoke and pyro noise from F! bothering neighbors is a huge lie .. and more
journalistic bullshit .. in the face of obviously comprehendable by all - facts.
>
> Take off your shoes and start using your toes.....
>
.......you poke around in things with them .. i'll keep my boots on thanx.
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>>Hey Ben, enjoy Believe and F! this weekend. But don't breathe to deep during
>>the shows!
>
>Thanks Tom. I'll try to save all my heavy breathing for when I get back
>home.
>
>
>~Ben
So, you're skipping Tarzan and the Parade of Stars? Ben, that's not your style.
Ben
>>home.
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>>~Ben
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>So, you're skipping Tarzan and the Parade of Stars? Ben, that's not your
>style.
>
Oh no...I do plenty of swooning whilst still in the park...but I'll do you all
a favor and wait til I get home to do my, um, heavy breathing.
Not to mention the boyfriend will be back home waiting for me...