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Mike Hathaway

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Apr 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/19/98
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I seem to remember that someone mentioning that Disneyland is assigning
everyone to get Tomorrowland ready in time. Once Tomorrowland re-opens
maintnence will go and do real repairs on the backlog... Or maybe there is
a schedule for major repairs and they are patching till they can take it
down and really fix it.

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J. Harrison Cricket

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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I've noticed, lately, that attractions are breaking down more and more.
Has anyone else noticed this? In the last couple of months I've seen the
Matterhorn, Space Mountain, Thunder Mountain, Star Tours, Dumbo, Roger
Rabbit, the Monorail, and Spash Mountain all break down. I don't know
what's going on, but it seems like something has changed. I don't know if
they are putting all the attention on the new tomorrowland or what, but I
hope this isn't becoming a trend. With all the profit the company as a
whole is making, I would think they could afford to make sure that the
attractions run correctly if nothing else! -Don

Jason Schultz

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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In article <tree-19049...@cc1014761-a.flrtn1.occa.home.com>,
tr...@primenet.com says...

Don't forget Mr. Lincoln! His left arm gives the attraction problems weekly,
and maintenance comes by and fixes the problem for the time being, but in a
little while it's time to call it 101 again. These continual breakdowns will
probably be used to show how problematic the attraction is and why it needs to
be shut down. Oh well...

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Jon Nadelberg

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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In article <tree-19049...@cc1014761-a.flrtn1.occa.home.com>,

J. Harrison Cricket <tr...@primenet.com> wrote:
>I've noticed, lately, that attractions are breaking down more and more.
>Has anyone else noticed this? In the last couple of months I've seen the
>Matterhorn, Space Mountain, Thunder Mountain, Star Tours, Dumbo, Roger
>Rabbit, the Monorail, and Spash Mountain all break down. I don't know
>what's going on, but it seems like something has changed. I don't know if
>they are putting all the attention on the new tomorrowland or what, but I
>hope this isn't becoming a trend. With all the profit the company as a
>whole is making, I would think they could afford to make sure that the
>attractions run correctly if nothing else! -Don


On my last visit, I visited four attractions. Three of them had
noticeable problems. Two of them had lines strewn with trash.

If they keep playing the public for chumps, it's going to catch
up with them. If the park ends up being filthy this summer as
it likely will, then it's going to be noticed. There's a good
chance that vermin will become more visible, and the place
smell worse.

What a shame.
it

RNP77

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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tr...@primenet.com (J. Harrison Cricket) wrote:

<<I've noticed, lately, that attractions are breaking down more and more.
Has anyone else noticed this? In the last couple of months I've seen the
Matterhorn, Space Mountain, Thunder Mountain, Star Tours, Dumbo, Roger
Rabbit, the Monorail, and Spash Mountain all break down. I don't know
what's going on, but it seems like something has changed. I don't know if
they are putting all the attention on the new tomorrowland or what, but I
hope this isn't becoming a trend. With all the profit the company as a
whole is making, I would think they could afford to make sure that the
attractions run correctly if nothing else! -Don>>

Yes, Disneyland has its share of mechanical difficulties. Call them excessive
if you want, but most of the breakdowns occur due to Guests having difficulties
in boarding. For example, Space Mtn, Thunder, and the Matterhorn all require
Guests to unload and load in a matter of seconds. When this is not met, the
other cars in the ride have nowhere to go except stop. It takes a lot of work
and time to evacuate the ride and reset it for normal operation. On any
attraction such as Star Tours, CMs may stop the ride if someone is standing up.
The ride must then be reset again.

The Monorail, on the other hand, has been having technical difficulties at
times, but is pretty much routine for the CMs. You think that is bad? The WDW
Monorail System is much more extensive and DL's difficulties do not even
compare to the daily difficulties they run into at WDW. My point is that yes,
there are periods in time when attractions seem to break down most often. To
tell you the truth, they happen most often on busy days. But keep in mind that
these complex attractions can break down for various reasons, whether it is
Guest, CM, or maintenance related.
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Scott McAdam

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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J. Harrison Cricket wrote in message ...

>I've noticed, lately, that attractions are breaking down more and more.
>Has anyone else noticed this? In the last couple of months I've seen the
>Matterhorn, Space Mountain, Thunder Mountain, Star Tours, Dumbo, Roger
>Rabbit, the Monorail, and Spash Mountain all break down. I don't know
>what's going on, but it seems like something has changed. I don't know if
>they are putting all the attention on the new tomorrowland or what, but I
>hope this isn't becoming a trend. With all the profit the company as a
>whole is making, I would think they could afford to make sure that the
>attractions run correctly if nothing else! -Don

When I was on Matterhorn and Space Mtn. 90% of the ride breakdowns were
operator related, not mechanical due to a lack of maintenance. I suspect
that with out working leads like Chuck Abbott to crack the whip and give
leadership that the percent has climbed from even there. The rides are VERY
easy to breakdown if you know how or are slow or inattentive. I also know
that the hourly counts are down on many of the rides I used to work. I
believe it is because of the lack of immediate leadership.

Scotty


Lt. D'Amato [Andrew Rich]

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Apr 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/20/98
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In article <jonnErp...@netcom.com>, jo...@netcom.com says...

> In article <tree-19049...@cc1014761-a.flrtn1.occa.home.com>,
> J. Harrison Cricket <tr...@primenet.com> wrote:
> >I've noticed, lately, that attractions are breaking down more and more.
> >Has anyone else noticed this? In the last couple of months I've seen the
> >Matterhorn, Space Mountain, Thunder Mountain, Star Tours, Dumbo, Roger
> >Rabbit, the Monorail, and Spash Mountain all break down. I don't know
> >what's going on, but it seems like something has changed. I don't know if
> >they are putting all the attention on the new tomorrowland or what, but I
> >hope this isn't becoming a trend. With all the profit the company as a
> >whole is making, I would think they could afford to make sure that the
> >attractions run correctly if nothing else! -Don
>
>
> On my last visit, I visited four attractions. Three of them had
> noticeable problems. Two of them had lines strewn with trash.
>
> If they keep playing the public for chumps, it's going to catch
> up with them. If the park ends up being filthy this summer as
> it likely will, then it's going to be noticed. There's a good
> chance that vermin will become more visible, and the place
> smell worse.

Not trying to start an argument here, but in a previous post you
mentioned that you'd noticed the park being "much cleaner". Which lines
were trashed?

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Jon Nadelberg

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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In article <MPG.fa58992f...@news.beachnet.com>,

Lt. D'Amato [Andrew Rich] <for....@look.below> wrote:
>In article <jonnErp...@netcom.com>, jo...@netcom.com says...
>> In article <tree-19049...@cc1014761-a.flrtn1.occa.home.com>,
>> J. Harrison Cricket <tr...@primenet.com> wrote:
>> >I've noticed, lately, that attractions are breaking down more and more.
>> >Has anyone else noticed this? In the last couple of months I've seen the
>> >Matterhorn, Space Mountain, Thunder Mountain, Star Tours, Dumbo, Roger
>> >Rabbit, the Monorail, and Spash Mountain all break down. I don't know
>> >what's going on, but it seems like something has changed. I don't know if
>> >they are putting all the attention on the new tomorrowland or what, but I
>> >hope this isn't becoming a trend. With all the profit the company as a
>> >whole is making, I would think they could afford to make sure that the
>> >attractions run correctly if nothing else! -Don
>>
>>
>> On my last visit, I visited four attractions. Three of them had
>> noticeable problems. Two of them had lines strewn with trash.
>>
>> If they keep playing the public for chumps, it's going to catch
>> up with them. If the park ends up being filthy this summer as
>> it likely will, then it's going to be noticed. There's a good
>> chance that vermin will become more visible, and the place
>> smell worse.
>
>Not trying to start an argument here, but in a previous post you
>mentioned that you'd noticed the park being "much cleaner". Which lines
>were trashed?
>

Overall, the park did seem to be cleaner to me. Maybe I hit a bad
day in 1996, and a good day in 1998. Don't know. The lines I
went on that were filled with trash were the Haunted Mansion and
Space Mountain. Those were the only areas I found to have a
noticeably large amount of trash in them. The rest of the park
did not look that bad. On my visit in 1996, the entire park
was totally strewn with trash. I did not encounter that on
this trip.

J. Harrison Cricket

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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In article <199804201855...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
rn...@aol.com (RNP77) wrote:


> Yes, Disneyland has its share of mechanical difficulties. Call them excessive
> if you want, but most of the breakdowns occur due to Guests having
difficulties
> in boarding. For example, Space Mtn, Thunder, and the Matterhorn all require
> Guests to unload and load in a matter of seconds. When this is not met, the
> other cars in the ride have nowhere to go except stop. It takes a lot of work
> and time to evacuate the ride and reset it for normal operation. On any
> attraction such as Star Tours, CMs may stop the ride if someone is
standing up.
> The ride must then be reset again.
>
> The Monorail, on the other hand, has been having technical difficulties at
> times, but is pretty much routine for the CMs. You think that is bad? The WDW
> Monorail System is much more extensive and DL's difficulties do not even
> compare to the daily difficulties they run into at WDW. My point is that yes,
> there are periods in time when attractions seem to break down most often. To
> tell you the truth, they happen most often on busy days. But keep in mind that
> these complex attractions can break down for various reasons, whether it is
> Guest, CM, or maintenance related.

I understand that attractions breakdown due to slow guests, etc. But I'm
talking about actual mechanical downtimes where maintance personel are
called in. I heard that most of the facilities guys have been put on
graveyard shifts and during the day there is just a skeleton crew to patch
things up until the night crew can really fix the problem. That means that
if two attractions go down at the same time, one remains dowm until the
other one is fixed. Anyway, my main point was that it seems to me that
many attractions have been having more and more problems lately. And
believe me, I don't want this to be the case. I'm not one of these guys
who is bashing Disney all the time. I think they still do a lot of things
right (Light Magic not withstanding), but I get the feeling that when they
do, it is in spite of all kinds of corporate re-structuring and management
struggles within the company. I just hope they don't lose sight of the
fact that success is not measured only by profit.

Rubio

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Apr 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/21/98
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I went to DL yesterday and noticed the "rocks" overlooking the submarine
lagoon at the place where you can take pictures (can't remember what the
sign says right now) are really cracking. In one spot, the hole is big
enough to see the metal bars that make up the frame for the rocks. It
looked really tacky.

winniepu

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