Mindless Obssession with IQ ???
Abominable Sonoman
I would like to know why some people on these NGs are so obsessed with
IQ scores. An IQ score says NOTHING about one's leadership qualities,
artistic abilities, musical talent, diligence and work ethics,
persistence, creativity, emotional balance or social judgement. While
the IQ test does provide some indication of one's rational ability,
however, it cannot and should not be used to validate "rankings" of
human beings in any way. (as many supremacists and ignorant people have
tried to do on several of these newsgroups.)
Examples:
Take Newt Gingrich, the Republican politician. Very smart guy, has great
ideas, and actually made some changes in our goverment for the
better--basically led the Republican Revolution. TIME Magazine's Man of
the Year in 1996. (In that article, it was mentioned that Newt has an IQ
of 123.)
In that same issue of TIME, there was an article about Timothy MacVeigh.
Oklahoma city bomber, convicted killer of 168 (?) people, including
children. ( In that article, it was mentioned that McVeigh has an IQ of
125.)
A few articles later, in TIME, up pops the Unabomber. Now I don't know
his IQ score, but it's gotta be well above 120 (he was a professor of
mathematics at the best public university in the world.) This same guy
murdered at least 2 innocent people, and maimed several others.
See? As I have just demonstrated, it would be extremely foolish to
judge others solely on IQ scores. One can only earn honourable judgement
through respectable accomplishments and hard-earned acheivements (as
Newt has) .
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Kathy
The people who seem so obsessed with people's IQ's are really, in effect,
showing their own, don't you think?
Kathy
Hans-Georg Michna
Oops, another one who failed the Mensa test <grin>.
Why do these people come to rec.org.mensa, of all places, to
find consolation?
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G. Mark Stewart
Hans-Georg Michna (hans-...@michnaNoEmailPlease.com) wrote:
: Oops, another one who failed the Mensa test <grin>.
: Why do these people come to rec.org.mensa, of all places, to
: find consolation?
: [No mail please]
Because no matter how much they may protest otherwise, they instinctively
know in their hearts that human compassion is positively correlated with IQ.
G. Mark Stewart
Kathy (jac...@lava.net) wrote:
: The people who seem so obsessed with people's IQ's are really, in effect,
: showing their own, don't you think?
: Kathy
Considering the fact that bragging about IQ is considered by most to be
rather gauche, the most obsessed with IQ seem to be those that are obsessed
with telling the world how "meaningless" it is, and tend to make one suspect
they have a vested interest in such a claim.
GMS
http://www.svs.com/users/gmark
: Abominable Sonoman wrote:
: >
Hans-Georg Michna
gm...@grayfox.svs.com (G. Mark Stewart) wrote:
>Hans-Georg Michna (hans-...@michnaNoEmailPlease.com) wrote:
>: Oops, another one who failed the Mensa test <grin>.
>
>: Why do these people come to rec.org.mensa, of all places, to
>: find consolation?
>Because no matter how much they may protest otherwise, they instinctively
>know in their hearts that human compassion is positively correlated with IQ.
<grin>
[No mail please]
Abominable Sonoman
Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
> Oops, another one who failed the Mensa test <grin>.
Ooh, how mature. How old are you, five?BTW, I didn't even take the Mensa
test, ok?
>
>
> Why do these people come to rec.org.mensa, of all places, to
> find consolation?
The message went to several other newsgroups. The reason I posted it is
because several supremacists (i.e. Ian McKinney, Shannon Perley,
lambert@morgan, etc....) kept on bringing up facts about how since
whites have higher IQ scores than blacks, then they must be superior,
and similar claims. That is why I posted it.
Abominable Sonoman
Kathy wrote:
> The people who seem so obsessed with people's IQ's are really, in effect,
> showing their own, don't you think?
That's probably because that score is the only thing they have, don't you
think?
>
>
> Kathy
>
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Hans-Georg Michna
Abominable Sonoman <BeatSt...@GoCal.Berzerkeley.edu> wrote:
>Hans-Georg Michna wrote:
>> Oops, another one who failed the Mensa test <grin>.
>Ooh, how mature. How old are you, five?BTW, I didn't even take the Mensa
>test, ok?
This shows at least some degree of basic cleverness. Knowing
one's own limits is a virtue some people are sorely lacking.
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Hans-Georg Michna
Abominable Sonoman <BeatSt...@GoCal.Berzerkeley.edu> wrote:
>Kathy wrote:
Ack, he didn't get it. Sonoman, the person most obsessed with IQ
are you.
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Jim Meritt
In article <34CC3D8B...@GoCal.berzerkeley.edu>,
BeatSt...@GoCal.berzerkeley.edu says...
>I would like to know why some people on these NGs are so obsessed with
>IQ scores.
To make a wild guess, I came across it in one which is a recreational
newsgroup devoted to an organization which has IQ scores as its sole criteria
for membership.
As to why the others, don't know. Care only slightly more than that.
--
James W. Meritt
The opinions expressed above are my own. The facts simply
are and belong to none.
Vernon
>Abominable Sonoman wrote:
>
>> I would like to know why some people on these NGs are so obsessed with
>> artistic abilities, musical talent, diligence and work ethics,
>> persistence, creativity, emotional balance or social judgement. While
>> the IQ test does provide some indication of one's rational ability,
>> however, it cannot and should not be used to validate "rankings" of
>> human beings in any way. (as many supremacists and ignorant people have
>> tried to do on several of these newsgroups.)
I completely agree with the fact that IQ scores should not be used as a
ranking tool or anything like this and that they do obviously not show
anything about most of someone's qualities. However, it should not be
forgotten that the IQ score is a very reliable measure that correlates
strongly with educational and perofessional success.
>>
>> Examples:
>>
>> Take Newt Gingrich, the Republican politician. Very smart guy, has great
>> ideas, and actually made some changes in our goverment for the
>> better--basically led the Republican Revolution. TIME Magazine's Man of
>> the Year in 1996. (In that article, it was mentioned that Newt has an IQ
>> of 123.)
>>
>> In that same issue of TIME, there was an article about Timothy MacVeigh.
>> Oklahoma city bomber, convicted killer of 168 (?) people, including
>> children. ( In that article, it was mentioned that McVeigh has an IQ of
>> 125.)
The best example I have in mind is the 100 score achieved by president John
F Kennedy.