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HAARP Shuttle

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Feb 8, 2003, 5:38:29 AM2/8/03
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Here's the link to the proof;

http://www.geocities.com/haarpshuttle/

HAARP Shuttle

tscottme

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HAARP Shuttle <haarps...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Here's the link to the proof;
>

Yup, of all the stupid theories, that's one of them.


DrPostman

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Feb 8, 2003, 8:07:34 AM2/8/03
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On 8 Feb 2003 02:38:29 -0800, haarps...@yahoo.com (HAARP Shuttle) in
accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:

>Here's the link to the proof;
>
>http://www.geocities.com/haarpshuttle/
>
>HAARP Shuttle


One of the regulars on afa-b lives near the antennas. There is nothing
going on there, except in your imagination.

--
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Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
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solarmax

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Feb 8, 2003, 10:40:05 AM2/8/03
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"HAARP Shuttle" <haarps...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Here's the link to the proof;
>
> http://www.geocities.com/haarpshuttle/
>
> HAARP Shuttle

You knew it was coming.


GOATS 4 U

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Feb 8, 2003, 11:23:49 AM2/8/03
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I've forwarded your information to the proper authorities.


Dog save the Qween.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

GOATS 4 U

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Feb 8, 2003, 11:22:06 AM2/8/03
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I've forwarded your information to the proper authorities
who will examine and most likely dispatch machine gun
toting thugs in heavy black boots to your location.

Dog save the Qween.

ALL YOUR BASE BELONG TO US


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Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)

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Feb 8, 2003, 2:02:32 PM2/8/03
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On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 13:07:34 GMT, DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail>
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:

>On 8 Feb 2003 02:38:29 -0800, haarps...@yahoo.com (HAARP Shuttle) in
>accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
>their wisdom with:
>
>>Here's the link to the proof;
>>
>>http://www.geocities.com/haarpshuttle/
>>
>>HAARP Shuttle
>
>
>One of the regulars on afa-b lives near the antennas. There is nothing
>going on there, except in your imagination.

That would be me. No one knows what HAARP can, or can't do, because
they don't have enough money to turn the damned thing on, and haven't
for several years.
--
V.G.

"Useful idiots follow suit. Artist my ass; I went to
grade school." - Allen L. Barker explains everything.

(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)

Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.

r0b zombie

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Feb 9, 2003, 3:54:07 AM2/9/03
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It wasnt Harrp. It was cousin earl with his a set of beams and a CB radio.

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DrPostman

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On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:40:05 -0500, "solarmax" <solar...@hotmail.com> in

accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:

>


It's been coming. Even the hip waders won't do anymore.
They make snow blowers, why not bullshit blowers. We
need a good one.

John Griffin

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Feb 9, 2003, 8:23:58 AM2/9/03
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haarps...@yahoo.com (HAARP Shuttle) wrote

> Here's the link to the proof

that human stupidity is boundless;
>
> http://www.geocities.com/haarpshuttle/
>
> HAARP Shuttle

Ralph Nesbitt

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Feb 9, 2003, 10:15:01 AM2/9/03
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"DrPostman" <Loo...@mysig.formail> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:40:05 -0500, "solarmax" <solar...@hotmail.com> in
> accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
> their wisdom with:
>
> >
> >"HAARP Shuttle" <haarps...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:e45be606.03020...@posting.google.com...
> >> Here's the link to the proof;
> >>
> >> http://www.geocities.com/haarpshuttle/
> >>
> >> HAARP Shuttle
> >
> >You knew it was coming.
> >
>
>
> It's been coming. Even the hip waders won't do anymore.
> They make snow blowers, why not bullshit blowers. We
> need a good one.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD;
>
Perhaps that is the problem, the "Persona" Posting this "Mass of B/S" is a
"High Capacity B/S Blower", that has directed it's "Discharge Port" toward
the News Groups listed in the "Header" of the referenced posts.
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type


BunnERabbit

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Feb 9, 2003, 12:20:57 PM2/9/03
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haarps...@yahoo.com (HAARP Shuttle), Wrote:

>HAARP shot down Columbia

>Here's the link to the proof;
>http://www.geocities.com/haarpshuttle/

What are you, some kind of kook or something?
The truth is Mothra shot down the Space Shuttle.

That's right. The North Koreans have been conducting unauthorized
experiments on 'Monster Island' unbeknownst to the Japanese owners.
Saddam's mini me, Kim ll Sung of the Democratic People's Republic of
Korea("Democratic People's Republic" is nuttier than this post) has
ordered the destruction of the Space Shuttle with a mutant version of
Mothra.

After the attack, the US Air Force captured Mothra and have now
convinced her to defect to the Allies and is currently being debriefed
at Area 51 in Nevada.

http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/hartford/120/mothrapg.html

As you can clearly see, she is resting for her future mission to attack
Pyongyang with hurricane force winds produced by her wingspan.

Meanwhile, Japanese authorities are giving Gamera much needed military
training as his upcoming tour of duty for the South Koreans at the DMZ
has been expedited.

http://www.avia-art.com/godzillawebsite/gamera/gam3pics.html

And finally, Godzilla after hearing that Muslims kidnapped his daughter
and sold her into slavery is headed off first to Bagdad to conduct
weapons inspections a bit more throughly than Hans and company, then off
to Mecca and Medina for his rescue effort.

http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/hartford/120/gojirapg.html

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Bunn E. Rabbit,
Usenet Journalist


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Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)

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Feb 9, 2003, 1:54:54 PM2/9/03
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On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:20:57 -0500 (EST), BunnE...@webtv.net
(BunnERabbit) wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:

>Meanwhile, Japanese authorities are giving Gamera much needed military
>training as his upcoming tour of duty for the South Koreans at the DMZ
>has been expedited.
>
>http://www.avia-art.com/godzillawebsite/gamera/gam3pics.html

I always did like Gamera, ever since the first time I saw one of "his"
movies on MST3K. A giant, prehistoric flying turtle, with flames
shooting out his ass? What's not to love?

Rabbi Rocky MK Ultra

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Feb 9, 2003, 3:45:30 PM2/9/03
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Pravda.RU
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/15/42068.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ne/AntariiRescue/ELFwaves.html
18:08 2003-01-15

HAARP Poses Global Threat

"The use of the new geophysical weapon might
lead to the global catastrophe"

A lot of specialists and scientists believe that unpredictable natural
disasters and several man-caused catastrophes that struck Europe and
Asia in the summer of the year 2002 say that there might be certain
global reasons that caused them all. First and foremost, it goes about
a possibility of secret geophysical weapon tests. Those tests were
either secret or unauthorized. The Russian Federation State Duma spent
almost a year, considering the global threat of the HAARP program. The
Duma finally prepared two addresses: to President Putin and to the UN,
international organizations, parliaments and governments of all
countries, to the scientific community of the world, as well as to
mass media. The Russian parliament suggested the global banning of
HAARP tests. In September of the year 2002 the State Duma of Russia
discussed this question and conducted the voting in order to send the
mentioned addresses to the adequate addressees. One hundred and
eighty-eight deputies voted for the address to President Vladimir
Putin, whereas the same subject for the UN returned 220 votes. This
proved that Russian parliamentarians were rather concerned about the
development and possible use of geophysical weapons.

It is well known that the USA and the USSR concluded an agreement at
the end of the 1970s. Pursuant to the agreement, scientific
developments in the field of geophysics for military purposes were
banned. All the works in the field became secret too. However, the
works continued anyway, despite the signed document. It was simply
conducted under the disguise of the scientific research or the
development of the double-purpose technology. The point and the
purpose of those developments were rather vague and even mysterious.

A lot of specialists and scientists believe that a special American
program HAARP is one of those developments. American scientist Bernard
Eastlund is considered to be the godfather of this program. He
received the patent for the method and for the device to measure the
layers of the Earth atmosphere, the ionosphere and/or the
magnetosphere. It is an open secret that the USA (probably, not the
USA alone) has already constructed high-frequency transmitter
facilities. Those devices can heat the earth environment up to the
state of plasma by means of pumping ions. This makes it possible to
control the environment, which might show considerable influence on
the atmospheric phenomena. The owners of this weapon are able to
program floods, twisters and storms, even earthquakes in any region of
the planet. It is also possible to paralyze civil and military
electric surveillance systems, and even to affect the mentality of
whole nations.

There is a suspicion that the unusual natural disasters and man-caused
catastrophes of the year 2002, the unexplainable indifference of
several nations on the post-Soviet territory might be linked to USA's
tests of geophysical weapons of low capacities. However, neither
American politicians and scientists, nor the world community know, if
it is going to be possible to stop the work of the geophysical weapon,
if it is used at its full capacity. This is the major problem. It is
quite possible that the first full capacity use of the geophysical
weapon might end up in a global catastrophe. Does it seem to be
science fiction? Not really, as a matter of fact. High frequency
transmitter facilities already exist. They are located in Norway and
at an army base in Alaska. The short description of the program and
some photographs can be found on the official site Haarp.alaska.edu.
Another high power transmitter facility, a more powerful one, is going
to be put into operation in Greenland soon. When this happens, the
geophysical weapon will be capable of covering Eurasia from the
Atlantic to the Pacific coast.

The information on this subject appeared on several Ukrainian websites
on September of 2002. In this connection, I think that the Ukrainian
parliament must support the initiative of the Russian State Duma as
well. The Ukrainian Academy of Sciences ought to consider the issue of
HAARP's potential threat to Ukraine. Adequate institutions ought to
collect all the information available and identify Ukraine's stand on
the subject.

Yuru Solomatin
Ukrainian deputy, the secretary of the Ukrainian committee for the
economic policy, nature management and for the liquidation of
Chernobyl tragedy consequences.

Translated by Dmitry Sudakov

theonetru...@hotmail.com (John Griffin) wrote in message news:<fd12f075.03020...@posting.google.com>...


> haarps...@yahoo.com (HAARP Shuttle) wrote
>
> > Here's the link to the proof
>
> >

> > http://www.angelfire.com/ne/AntariiRescue/ELFwaves.html
> >
> > HAARP Shuttle

Scott M. Kozel

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Feb 9, 2003, 4:21:05 PM2/9/03
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You people need to get a life - you just keep posting the same crap over
and over again...

Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)

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Feb 9, 2003, 4:36:23 PM2/9/03
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On 9 Feb 2003 12:45:30 -0800, rabbi...@hotmail.com (Rabbi Rocky MK
Ultra) wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:

>There is a suspicion that the unusual natural disasters and man-caused
>catastrophes of the year 2002, the unexplainable indifference of
>several nations on the post-Soviet territory might be linked to USA's
>tests of geophysical weapons of low capacities. However, neither
>American politicians and scientists, nor the world community know, if
>it is going to be possible to stop the work of the geophysical weapon,
>if it is used at its full capacity. This is the major problem. It is
>quite possible that the first full capacity use of the geophysical
>weapon might end up in a global catastrophe. Does it seem to be
>science fiction? Not really, as a matter of fact. High frequency
>transmitter facilities already exist. They are located in Norway and
>at an army base in Alaska. The short description of the program and
>some photographs can be found on the official site Haarp.alaska.edu.
>Another high power transmitter facility, a more powerful one, is going
>to be put into operation in Greenland soon. When this happens, the
>geophysical weapon will be capable of covering Eurasia from the
>Atlantic to the Pacific coast.

This is, of course, complete and utter bullshit of the very highest
grade. The only thing HAARP has done in the last five years is
provide free HBO for the on-site guard trailer. They don't have any
funding to conduct any tests, much less military operations. Without
money, HAARP is nothing more than a very large antenna.

Jack

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Feb 9, 2003, 5:42:38 PM2/9/03
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"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message news:<et8d4voucq0u5to9h...@4ax.com>...

> On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:20:57 -0500 (EST), BunnE...@webtv.net
> (BunnERabbit) wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>
> >Meanwhile, Japanese authorities are giving Gamera much needed military
> >training as his upcoming tour of duty for the South Koreans at the DMZ
> >has been expedited.
> >
> >http://www.avia-art.com/godzillawebsite/gamera/gam3pics.html
>
> I always did like Gamera, ever since the first time I saw one of "his"
> movies on MST3K. A giant, prehistoric flying turtle, with flames
> shooting out his ass? What's not to love?

how about Tom Servo singing "Timmy"?

Tom Mosher

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"Jack" <heavyf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Is Dr. Forester somehow involved in this vast conspiracy?

Tom


Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)

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Feb 10, 2003, 12:30:43 AM2/10/03
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On 9 Feb 2003 14:42:38 -0800, heavyf...@yahoo.com (Jack) wrote in
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It was beautiful, man.

Eltanin

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Feb 10, 2003, 1:03:21 AM2/10/03
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Forget all those who write you off without reading your page. I did
and would have to say that Haarp would be too old to really function.

Change your header to say "Pine Gap shot down Columbia"

In article <e45be606.03020...@posting.google.com>, HAARP

Clave

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"Eltanin" <elt...@boxfrog.com> wrote in message
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>
> Forget all those who write you off without reading your page. I did
> and would have to say that Haarp would be too old to really function.


Yeah, that's what they tried to tell Quaid...

Jim


Boris Nogoodnik

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"HAARP Shuttle" <haarps...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Here's the link to the proof;
>
> http://www.geocities.com/haarpshuttle/
>
> HAARP Shuttle

Good one! But I failed to understand the link to
constellations.


solarmax

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Feb 10, 2003, 10:03:11 AM2/10/03
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Hold the boat! Won't the French and Germans be pissed at us for unilaterally
interrogating and turning Mothra?


John F Lemke

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"solarmax" <solar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hold the boat! Won't the French and Germans be pissed at us for
unilaterally
> interrogating and turning Mothra?


Only if we sentence him to death by lethal injection (dead moth walking).

Life imprisonment would be acceptable, however. A very large net at a
special compound in Eastern Cuba perhaps.


Flyfish

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Feb 10, 2003, 9:28:10 AM2/10/03
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"solarmax" <solar...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Yes Tony predicted it :-)

Flyfish

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I repeat myself."
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Matt Kriebel

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Feb 10, 2003, 10:04:01 AM2/10/03
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In article <q7ee4vcil0s3bnvpp...@4ax.com>,

"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:

> On 9 Feb 2003 14:42:38 -0800, heavyf...@yahoo.com (Jack) wrote in
> alt.fan.art-bell:
>
> >"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message
> >news:<et8d4voucq0u5to9h...@4ax.com>...
> >> On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:20:57 -0500 (EST), BunnE...@webtv.net
> >> (BunnERabbit) wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
> >>
> >> >Meanwhile, Japanese authorities are giving Gamera much needed military
> >> >training as his upcoming tour of duty for the South Koreans at the DMZ
> >> >has been expedited.
> >> >
> >> >http://www.avia-art.com/godzillawebsite/gamera/gam3pics.html
> >>
> >> I always did like Gamera, ever since the first time I saw one of "his"
> >> movies on MST3K. A giant, prehistoric flying turtle, with flames
> >> shooting out his ass? What's not to love?
> >
> >how about Tom Servo singing "Timmy"?
>
> It was beautiful, man.

"Gamera is really neat, he is full of turtle meat..."

--
Matt Kriebel * Oooops!
mkr...@cruzio.com *
*********************************************************************
Now 90% closer to 80% of the world's kooks!

HAARP Museum Association

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Feb 10, 2003, 2:49:30 PM2/10/03
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CORRECTED WEBSITE WITH DE-CLASSIFIED HAARP-SHUTTLE DATA:
http://www.angelfire.com/ne/AntariiRescue/rabbi_rocky_show.html

HAARP Location In Alaska: The orange line circling the Earth
symbolized the surface. The juncture point of the orange, red and gold
lines between "STS" and "107" symbolized the location of HAARP in
Gakona, Alaska.

HAARP is located more than 200 miles north-northeast of Anchorage, in
Gakona, Alaska, at a longitude of 145 degrees 17 seconds West. The
site has a large radio frequency transmit antenna and a collection of
diagnostic instruments. The antenna is currently being configured to
transmit 960,000 watts of radio frequency energy into the ionosphere,
an upper portion of the Earth's atmosphere that extends spaceward 50
to more than 300 miles.

Two comets of war are in perihelion now, one approaching the sun's
shores, the other just barely leaving the sun's pull, and they will
pass each other [moving in opposite directions] around March 4, 2003,
in between the orbit of Mercury and the Sun close to the star
Fomalhaut [one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse] the same day
that intelligence agencies predict GW Bush will trigger a nuclear war
by being the warmongering aggressor in Iraq. Comet X5 and V1 [see
website link above].

Elizabeth Eder

Flyfish <Fly...@google.com> wrote in message news:<Xns931E6122D50D1...@130.133.1.4>...


> "solarmax" <solar...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:v4a929a...@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > "HAARP Shuttle" <haarps...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:e45be606.03020...@posting.google.com...
> >> Here's the link to the proof;
> >>
> >> http://www.geocities.com/haarpshuttle/
> >>
> >> HAARP Shuttle
> >
> > You knew it was coming.
>

> Yes Tony predicted it :-) Brian Lehrer [WNYC] is a CIA patsy and a putz.
>
> Flyfish
>
> --
>

HAARP Museum Association

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Feb 10, 2003, 2:52:25 PM2/10/03
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CORRECTED WEBSITE WITH DE-CLASSIFIED HAARP-SHUTTLE DATA:
http://www.angelfire.com/ne/AntariiRescue/rabbi_rocky_show.html

HAARP Location In Alaska: HAARP in Gakona, Alaska.

HAARP is located more than 200 miles north-northeast of Anchorage, in

Gakona, Alaska, at a longitude of 145 degrees 17 seconds, West. The


site has a large radio frequency transmit antenna and a collection of
diagnostic instruments. The antenna is currently being configured to

transmit BILLIONS of watts of radio frequency energy into the


ionosphere, an upper portion of the Earth's atmosphere that extends
spaceward 50 to more than 300 miles.

Two comets of war are in perihelion now, one approaching the sun's
shores, the other just barely leaving the sun's pull, and they will
pass each other [moving in opposite directions] around March 4, 2003,
in between the orbit of Mercury and the Sun close to the star
Fomalhaut [one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse] the same day
that intelligence agencies predict GW Bush will trigger a nuclear war
by being the warmongering aggressor in Iraq. Comet X5 and V1 [see
website link above].

Elizabeth Eder

Flyfish <Fly...@google.com> wrote in message news:<Xns931E6122D50D1...@130.133.1.4>...
> "solarmax" <solar...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:v4a929a...@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > "HAARP Shuttle" <haarps...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:e45be606.03020...@posting.google.com...

> >> Here's the link to the proof;
> >>

> >> http://www.geocities.com/haarpshuttle/
> >>
> >> HAARP Shuttle
> >
> > You knew it was coming.
>
> Yes Tony predicted it :-) Brian Lehrer [WNYC] is a CIA patsy and a putz.
>
> Flyfish

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Jack

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Feb 10, 2003, 7:34:11 PM2/10/03
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elizabe...@hotmail.com (HAARP Museum Association) wrote in message news:<4f934102.03021...@posting.google.com>...

> CORRECTED WEBSITE WITH DE-CLASSIFIED HAARP-SHUTTLE DATA:
> http://www.angelfire.com/ne/AntariiRescue/rabbi_rocky_show.html
>
> HAARP Location In Alaska: HAARP in Gakona, Alaska.
>
> HAARP is located more than 200 miles north-northeast of Anchorage, in
> Gakona, Alaska, at a longitude of 145 degrees 17 seconds, West. The
> site has a large radio frequency transmit antenna and a collection of
> diagnostic instruments. The antenna is currently being configured to
> transmit BILLIONS of watts of radio frequency energy into the
> ionosphere, an upper portion of the Earth's atmosphere that extends
> spaceward 50 to more than 300 miles.

hey dingus... what the fuck do you think the sun does every freakin'
day to the ionosphere? moron. dumber than a rock.

DrPostman

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On 10 Feb 2003 11:49:30 -0800, elizabe...@hotmail.com (HAARP Museum
Association) in accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes

Only" availed us of their wisdom with:

>CORRECTED WEBSITE WITH DE-CLASSIFIED HAARP-SHUTTLE DATA:


>http://www.angelfire.com/ne/AntariiRescue/rabbi_rocky_show.html
>
>HAARP Location In Alaska: The orange line circling the Earth
>symbolized the surface. The juncture point of the orange, red and gold
>lines between "STS" and "107" symbolized the location of HAARP in
>Gakona, Alaska.
>
>HAARP is located more than 200 miles north-northeast of Anchorage, in
>Gakona, Alaska, at a longitude of 145 degrees 17 seconds West. The
>site has a large radio frequency transmit antenna and a collection of
>diagnostic instruments. The antenna is currently being configured to
>transmit 960,000 watts of radio frequency energy into the ionosphere,
>an upper portion of the Earth's atmosphere that extends spaceward 50
>to more than 300 miles.


No, it isn't. There is no funding to do anything with the array right now
and all that is going on there is a couple of security guards are getting
bored to death. One of the afa-b regulars lives there, sees the site
often. You can't get better info than from someone who is right there.
And it beats the hell out of your paranoid conjectures.


--

John Griffin

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Feb 10, 2003, 9:47:38 PM2/10/03
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elizabe...@hotmail.com (HAARP Museum Association) wrote

> CORRECTED WEBSITE WITH DE-CLASSIFIED HAARP-SHUTTLE DATA:


> http://www.angelfire.com/ne/AntariiRescue/rabbi_rocky_show.html
>
> HAARP Location In Alaska: HAARP in Gakona, Alaska.
>
> HAARP is located more than 200 miles north-northeast of Anchorage, in
> Gakona, Alaska, at a longitude of 145 degrees 17 seconds, West. The
> site has a large radio frequency transmit antenna and a collection of
> diagnostic instruments. The antenna is currently being configured to
> transmit BILLIONS of watts of radio frequency energy into the
> ionosphere, an upper portion of the Earth's atmosphere that extends
> spaceward 50 to more than 300 miles.

Careful...there are Brits here. They might begin to wonder where
the hell that gadget going to get 2,000,000,000,000 watts. (Not
that it's clear where the 2,000,000,000 will come from.)

>
> Two comets of war are in perihelion now,

That was hilarious. Superstitions can provide some great comedy.

>one approaching the sun's
> shores, the other just barely leaving the sun's pull, and they will
> pass each other [moving in opposite directions] around March 4, 2003,
> in between the orbit of Mercury and the Sun close to the star
> Fomalhaut [one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse] the same day
> that intelligence agencies predict GW Bush will trigger a nuclear war
> by being the warmongering aggressor in Iraq. Comet X5 and V1 [see
> website link above].

The link would be a wakeup call for anyone who thinks
we're going through a wacko shortage.

Note that comets have absolutely no effect on Earth or its
denizens unless the happen to land here. Fomalhaut is just
a star, having no effect on Earth and completely lacking in
demonstrated equestrian skills. Mercury is just a pile
of rock, orbiting near the sun. Astrology is a primitive
superstition.

Also, note that it isn't "intelligence agencies" who are saying
Bush will "be the warmongering aggressor and trigger a nuclear
war." The "moron community" (who like Bush so much they try like
hell to claim him as one of their own) are saying that.

>
> Elizabeth Eder

Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)

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Feb 10, 2003, 10:37:37 PM2/10/03
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On 10 Feb 2003 11:49:30 -0800, elizabe...@hotmail.com (HAARP
Museum Association) wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:

>HAARP is located more than 200 miles north-northeast of Anchorage, in
>Gakona, Alaska, at a longitude of 145 degrees 17 seconds West. The
>site has a large radio frequency transmit antenna and a collection of
>diagnostic instruments. The antenna is currently being configured to
>transmit 960,000 watts of radio frequency energy into the ionosphere,
>an upper portion of the Earth's atmosphere that extends spaceward 50
>to more than 300 miles.

No, it isn't. It would make a decent elephant cage, if we had some
elephants.

no

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Feb 10, 2003, 10:39:29 PM2/10/03
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The comet info is interesting.

...............

HAARP Museum Association wrote in message
<4f934102.03021...@posting.google.com>...

Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)

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Feb 11, 2003, 12:29:31 AM2/11/03
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On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:39:29 GMT, "no" <rann...@earthlink.net> wrote
in alt.fan.art-bell:

>The comet info is interesting.
>
>...............

Compared to what, drying paint?

BunnERabbit

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Feb 11, 2003, 4:50:44 AM2/11/03
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vgor...@pobox.alaska.net (Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)), Wrote:

>On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:20:57 -0500 (EST),
>BunnE...@webtv.net (BunnERabbit) wrote
>in alt.fan.art-bell:

>>Meanwhile, Japanese authorities are giving
>>Gamera much needed military training as his
>>upcoming tour of duty for the South Koreans at
>>the DMZ has been expedited.

>>http://www.avia-art.com/godzillawebsite/gamera
>>/gam3pics.html

>I always did like Gamera, ever since the first
>time I saw one of "his" movies on MST3K. A
>giant, prehistoric flying turtle, with flames
>shooting out his ass? What's not to love?

And let's not forget Gamera's gymnastic abilities.

http://multimedia.badmovies.org/movies/gamvsguiron1.mpg

--
Bunn E. Rabbit

>--
>V.G.

DrPostman

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Feb 11, 2003, 7:25:58 AM2/11/03
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On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:39:29 GMT, "no" <rann...@earthlink.net> in accordance

with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their
wisdom with:

>The comet info is interesting.


You find heaping piles of bullshit interesting?

Rich Ahrens

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Feb 11, 2003, 12:50:37 PM2/11/03
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DrPostman wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:39:29 GMT, "no" <rann...@earthlink.net> in accordance
> with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their
> wisdom with:
>
>
>>The comet info is interesting.
>
>
>
> You find heaping piles of bullshit interesting?

He reads alt.fan.art-bell and alt.conspiracy, so the answer obviously is a
resounding yes!

Andre

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Feb 11, 2003, 3:09:30 PM2/11/03
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DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail> wrote in message news:<o9hg4v4uk3hbm1b8s...@4ax.com>...

> On 10 Feb 2003 11:49:30 -0800, elizabe...@hotmail.com (HAARP Museum
> Association) in accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes
> Only" availed us of their wisdom with:
>
> >CORRECTED WEBSITE WITH DE-CLASSIFIED HAARP-SHUTTLE DATA:
> >http://www.angelfire.com/ne/AntariiRescue/rabbi_rocky_show.html
> >
> >HAARP Location In Alaska: The orange line circling the Earth
> >symbolized the surface. The juncture point of the orange, red and gold
> >lines between "STS" and "107" symbolized the location of HAARP in
> >Gakona, Alaska.
> >
> >HAARP is located more than 200 miles north-northeast of Anchorage, in
> >Gakona, Alaska, at a longitude of 145 degrees 17 seconds West. The
> >site has a large radio frequency transmit antenna and a collection of
> >diagnostic instruments. The antenna is currently being configured to
> >transmit 960,000 watts of radio frequency energy into the ionosphere,
> >an upper portion of the Earth's atmosphere that extends spaceward 50
> >to more than 300 miles.
>
>
> No, it isn't. There is no funding to do anything with the array right now
> and all that is going on there is a couple of security guards are getting
> bored to death. One of the afa-b regulars lives there, sees the site
> often. You can't get better info than from someone who is right there.
> And it beats the hell out of your paranoid conjectures.

Now we know what happened to the Aurora . Sure they built it but ran
out of cash . Now the prototype sits in Hangar 17 :)

-A

HAARP Museum Association

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Feb 11, 2003, 3:47:29 PM2/11/03
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SHUTTLE sabotaged by our own government!

Just west of the California coastline over the Pacific is when the
Shuttle Columbia first had technical flaws and failures, at about the
same longitude as HAARP Gakona, Alaska military facility -- secretly
funded in the billions by the Black Ops of our DoD. For more
analysis, go to --->>>

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/deadly.html

Two comets of war are in perihelion now, one approaching the sun's
shores, the other just barely leaving the sun's pull, and they will

pass each other [moving in opposite directions] around March 2-4,


2003, in between the orbit of Mercury and the Sun close to the star
Fomalhaut [one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse] the same day
that intelligence agencies predict GW Bush will trigger a nuclear war

by being the warmongering aggressor in Iraq. Comet 2002/ X5
(Kudo-Fujikawa) and V1 [NEAT] ... this comet will be making a very,
very close approach to the Sun at perihelion, less than 0.1 AU. Look
up their orbits on Google and on the website referenced above!

Can somebody please post more data and comments on the two comets and
what is going on?? They seem like space craft [non-Earth] more than
any dainty little dirty ice ball metaphor. The trails and tails look
like gamma radiation.

The crew of the Space Shuttle Columbia were murdered with an EM pulse
from the HAARP array in Alaska in accordance to a ritualistic
celestial alignment pattern used by two warring factions of secret
societies during the entire history of the space program -- as well as
during historical world events since King Solomon.

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/deadly.html

"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message news:<0vrg4v8981fdkhnk5...@4ax.com>...

Carl R. Osterwald

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Feb 11, 2003, 4:00:08 PM2/11/03
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In article <4f934102.03021...@posting.google.com> HAARP
Museum Association, elizabe...@hotmail.com writes:

>SHUTTLE sabotaged by our own government!

[stupidity snip]

How many more times are you going to top post this crap?

Repetition doesn't alter the net manure content.

-=-=-=-=-

"My investigations show that the most important woman in
the world today is Empress Heidi. It also seems that I,
Czar Nicholas III, am the most important man."

-- Kansan1225 boosts his hat size.

DrPostman

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Feb 11, 2003, 7:35:40 PM2/11/03
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On 11 Feb 2003 12:09:30 -0800, test...@yahoo.com (Andre) in accordance with

The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their wisdom
with:

>DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail> wrote in message news:<o9hg4v4uk3hbm1b8s...@4ax.com>...

>> No, it isn't. There is no funding to do anything with the array right now


>> and all that is going on there is a couple of security guards are getting
>> bored to death. One of the afa-b regulars lives there, sees the site
>> often. You can't get better info than from someone who is right there.
>> And it beats the hell out of your paranoid conjectures.
>
>Now we know what happened to the Aurora . Sure they built it but ran
>out of cash . Now the prototype sits in Hangar 17 :)
>
>-A


No, Aurora is probably still in development. We don't know either way.
We do know about HAARP.

no

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Feb 11, 2003, 8:33:41 PM2/11/03
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Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) wrote in message ...

>On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:39:29 GMT, "no" <rann...@earthlink.net> wrote
>in alt.fan.art-bell:
>
>>The comet info is interesting.
>>
>>...............
>
>Compared to what, drying paint?


We're waiting for a visible comet like last year, in apn, because of the
Mabus quatrain possibilities.

>--
>V.G.

no

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Feb 11, 2003, 8:33:48 PM2/11/03
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DrPostman wrote in message ...

>On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:39:29 GMT, "no" <rann...@earthlink.net> in
accordance
>with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their
>wisdom with:
>
>>The comet info is interesting.
>
>
>You find heaping piles of bullshit interesting?


Only the two comets references. I read HAARP material elsewhere that's more
informative, about phased array EM focused ionosphere mumbo jumbo Alaska.
I'm wondering if any of it is true. I don't see why it would target the
shuttle anyway.

>--
>Dr.Postman


no

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Feb 11, 2003, 8:33:55 PM2/11/03
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Rich Ahrens wrote in message
<3e493812$0$199$a186...@newsreader.visi.com>...

Good guess, you qualify as a seer. The last time I read afab or ac; was 4
years ago. I'm posting from apn.

John Griffin

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Feb 12, 2003, 4:14:33 AM2/12/03
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"no" <rann...@earthlink.net> wrote

Then "resounding" was way too weak. Superfluous evidence that
the "seer" is a mythological being. Nostradamus is bullshit.

DrPostman

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Feb 12, 2003, 7:23:07 AM2/12/03
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On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:33:48 GMT, "no" <rann...@earthlink.net> in accordance

with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their
wisdom with:

>
>DrPostman wrote in message ...
>>On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:39:29 GMT, "no" <rann...@earthlink.net> in
>accordance
>>with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their
>>wisdom with:
>>
>>>The comet info is interesting.
>>
>>
>>You find heaping piles of bullshit interesting?
>
>
>Only the two comets references. I read HAARP material elsewhere that's more
>informative, about phased array EM focused ionosphere mumbo jumbo Alaska.
>I'm wondering if any of it is true. I don't see why it would target the
>shuttle anyway.


And you think comets cause things on Earth?

Flyfish

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Feb 12, 2003, 10:03:50 AM2/12/03
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"no" <rann...@earthlink.net> wrote in news:Vvh2a.11814$tO2.1129005
@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net:

> We're waiting for a visible comet like last year, in apn, because of the
> Mabus quatrain possibilities.

We've got two right now, does that count?

no need to list the shuttle as a comet, two real ones are out there.

Carl R. Osterwald

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Feb 12, 2003, 10:50:34 AM2/12/03
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In article <hp5j4vsoid4hkpum1...@4ax.com> DrPostman,
Loo...@mysig.formail writes:

>No, Aurora is probably still in development. We don't know either way.
>We do know about HAARP.

Snorey had that "Angels Don't Play This HAARP" "doctor" on the other
night. Said we're in dire straights for 100 years because of the damage
done, they turn it on periodically, it's a prototype for a much larger
"missile defense" version they are going to build everywhere, yadda,
yadda, yadda. It was reel convincing.

Rabbi Rocky MK Ultra

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Feb 12, 2003, 4:59:34 PM2/12/03
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HERE'S THE PROOF:

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/haarp_conspiracy.html

Disprove it or shut up.

Rabbi Rocky


Flyfish <Fly...@google.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9320672E7D888...@130.133.1.4>...

Carl R. Osterwald

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Feb 12, 2003, 5:15:57 PM2/12/03
to
In article <ef268e26.03021...@posting.google.com> Rabbi Rocky
MK Ultra, rabbi...@hotmail.com writes:

Nice kooksite, the Hoaxland-esque tetrahedrals are the perfect touch.
Accusing NASA of murdering their own astronauts is also a plot
plagerized from Hoaxland.

OK, how about this:

"The antenna is currently being configured to transmit BILLIONS of watts


of radio frequency energy into the ionosphere"

Wow, this seems like a lot of Watts, no? Have you considered the rather
large object seen daily in the skies of Earth, namely the Sun? It
dumps 1,000 to 10,000 times as much energy into the atmosphere, yet we
all are still alive. Amazing, yes?

Oh, and one other thing. This grand conspiracy to control the weather
and destroy the Earth has been off for several years because of a lack
of funding from the Air Force.

What does this say for your nutty theory?

Carl R. Osterwald

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Feb 12, 2003, 5:21:42 PM2/12/03
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In article <ef268e26.03021...@posting.google.com> Rabbi Rocky
MK Ultra, rabbi...@hotmail.com writes:

I forgot another comment from this droolage (assuming you are not a
complete troll):

"close to the star Fomalhaut [one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse]"

You really should check your facts a little before making wild
assertions. Fomalhaut is the brightest star in Pisces, and the name
literally means "mouth of the fish". Nothing at all about horses or
doomsday.

Sorry, try again?

Rich Ahrens

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Feb 12, 2003, 6:28:20 PM2/12/03
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You're posting to all of them. And Nostradumbass is as large a crock as the
others, so the point stands.


Larry Doering

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Feb 12, 2003, 5:48:47 PM2/12/03
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In article <v4li7m8...@corp.supernews.com>,

Carl R. Osterwald <i...@mac.com> wrote:
>In article <ef268e26.03021...@posting.google.com> Rabbi Rocky
>MK Ultra, rabbi...@hotmail.com writes:
>
>>HERE'S THE PROOF:
>>
>>http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/haarp_conspiracy.html
>
>I forgot another comment from this droolage (assuming you are not a
>complete troll):
>
>"close to the star Fomalhaut [one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse]"
>
>You really should check your facts a little before making wild
>assertions. Fomalhaut is the brightest star in Pisces, and the name
>literally means "mouth of the fish". Nothing at all about horses or
>doomsday.

Actually, Fomalhaut (magnitude 1.16) is the brightest star in Piscis
Austrinus, the Southern Fish, an otherwise unassuming small
constellation in the southern sky at about -30 degrees declination.

Pisces is one of the lamer constellations, with no star brighter than
about 3rd magnitude.

>Sorry, try again?

Rabbi Rocky or whoever might also want to note that the Sun, Mercury, and
the two comets C/2002 X5 (Kudo-Fujikawa) and C/2002 V1 (NEAT) are only
going to be close to Fomalhaut on March 4th if "close" is defined to mean
"within twenty or thirty degrees of". Yes, they will all be in the same
general part of the sky, but not exactly what I would call "close".


ljd

Carl R. Osterwald

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Feb 12, 2003, 6:42:35 PM2/12/03
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In article <b2ej0f$860$1...@lhc.nlm.nih.gov> Larry Doering,
doe...@xrayspex.nlm.nih.gov writes:

>Actually, Fomalhaut (magnitude 1.16) is the brightest star in Piscis
>Austrinus, the Southern Fish, an otherwise unassuming small
>constellation in the southern sky at about -30 degrees declination.

I stand corrected. I was attempting to simplify the subject matter
for the thinking-challenged conspiratorial audience.

no

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Feb 12, 2003, 8:36:05 PM2/12/03
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DrPostman wrote in message <0afk4vgr7gun1q6va...@4ax.com>...

>On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:33:48 GMT, "no" <rann...@earthlink.net> in
accordance
>with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their
>wisdom with:
>
>>
>>DrPostman wrote in message ...
>>>On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:39:29 GMT, "no" <rann...@earthlink.net> in
>>accordance
>>>with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their
>>>wisdom with:
>>>
>>>>The comet info is interesting.
>>>
>>>
>>>You find heaping piles of bullshit interesting?
>>
>>
>>Only the two comets references. I read HAARP material elsewhere that's
more
>>informative, about phased array EM focused ionosphere mumbo jumbo Alaska.
>>I'm wondering if any of it is true. I don't see why it would target the
>>shuttle anyway.
>
>
>And you think comets cause things on Earth?

Speculation. Physically no, psychologically possibly, seen ahead of time in
conjunction with an important event, possibly.


DrPostman

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Feb 13, 2003, 1:32:41 AM2/13/03
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On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:36:05 GMT, "no" <rann...@earthlink.net> in accordance

with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their
wisdom with:

>
>DrPostman wrote in message <0afk4vgr7gun1q6va...@4ax.com>...

>>And you think comets cause things on Earth?
>
>Speculation. Physically no, psychologically possibly, seen ahead of time in
>conjunction with an important event, possibly.


You don't see that as coincidence? What about all the comets that have
been seen where no important events happened?

DrPostman

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Feb 12, 2003, 5:41:18 PM2/12/03
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On 12 Feb 2003 13:59:34 -0800, rabbi...@hotmail.com (Rabbi Rocky MK Ultra) in

accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:

>HERE'S THE PROOF:


Pretty stupid proof, especially in the face of someone who lives up there
near the damned thing telling you that it is not operational. Have YOU
seen it first hand? When was the last time you visited it up there in
Alaska?

BTW, the first time I looked at that web site I thought it was a parody.

John Griffin

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Feb 13, 2003, 7:10:02 AM2/13/03
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DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail> wrote

> On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:33:48 GMT, "no" <rann...@earthlink.net> in accordance
> with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their
> wisdom with:
>
> >
> >DrPostman wrote in message ...
> >>On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:39:29 GMT, "no" <rann...@earthlink.net> in
> accordance
> >>with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of their
> >>wisdom with:
> >>
> >>>The comet info is interesting.
> >>
> >>
> >>You find heaping piles of bullshit interesting?
> >
> >
> >Only the two comets references. I read HAARP material elsewhere that's more
> >informative, about phased array EM focused ionosphere mumbo jumbo Alaska.
> >I'm wondering if any of it is true. I don't see why it would target the
> >shuttle anyway.
>
>
> And you think comets cause things on Earth?

I don't know about that guy, but Crazy Edmo thinks a near approach
by a comet would boil the oceans away...or something like that.

Flyfish

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Feb 13, 2003, 10:16:04 AM2/13/03
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rabbi...@hotmail.com (Rabbi Rocky MK Ultra) wrote in
news:ef268e26.03021...@posting.google.com:

> HERE'S THE PROOF:
>
> http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/haarp_conspiracy.h
> tml
>
> Disprove it or shut up.
>
> Rabbi Rocky

This is not proof, it's the diseased output of an irrational, paranoid
mind. It's pseudo-intellectual babbeling and paranoid drool.

When someone makes such bizarre and otherworldly claims the burden of proof
lies with them. Any high school student with a semester of Civics and/or
logic would know this, therefore it's clear that you either didn't go to
high school, didn't pay attention or used drugs during the relevant
portions of your education.

Betty Boop

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Feb 13, 2003, 11:56:05 AM2/13/03
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Learn how to Google Surf before you dribble or no stewed carrots for
you tonight, Herr Easter Forest.

http://www.winshop.com.au/annew/Fomalhaut.html
www.geocities.com/chemosh_of_ammon/NGC1987A.html

Fomalhaut was Al Difdi' al Awwal, the "First Frog"; (beta Cetus, Deneb
Kaitos the Second Frog). Thalim, the "Ostrich, another Arabic title.

Fomalhaut with Achernar and Canopus made up Dante's Tre Facelle.

It was Hastorang in Persia 2582 B.C., at the winter solstice, and a
Royal Star, one of the "four Guardians of Heaven", sentinels watching
over other stars; while about 500 B.C. it was the object of sunrise
worship in the temple of Demeter at Eleusis.

This is one of the four key stars in the heavens, also called
archangel stars.

Michael (Aldebaran) watcher of the East.

Gabriel (Fomalhaut) watcher of the South.

Raphael (The Healing Archangel (Regulus) Watcher of the North.

Oriel (Antares) Watcher of the West.

At one time they marked the two Equinoxes and two Solstices. Aldebaran
marked zero Aries 3044 BC, Antares marked zero Libra 3052 BC,
Fomalhaut marked zero Capricorn, 2582 BC, Regulus marked zero Cancer
2345 BC.

Eric Morse says: They have been characterized as Horses, reflected
both in the famed Four Horsemen of Apocalypse (Revelations 6) and
Chariot Horses in the Book of Zechariah. Regulus was long considered
the supreme of the Four Guardians but the role of Fomalhaut - Gabriel,
in the birth of Jesus - must now be said to challenge or actually
supplant, with a new stage in human spiritual evolution


Carl R. Osterwald <i...@mac.com> wrote in message news:<v4li7m8...@corp.supernews.com>...
> In article <ef268e26> Rabbi Rocky


> MK Ultra, rabbi...@hotmail.com writes:
>
> >HERE'S THE PROOF:
> >
> >http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/haarp_conspiracy.html
>
> I forgot another comment from this droolage (assuming you are not a
> complete troll):
>
> "close to the star Fomalhaut [one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse]"
>
> You really should check your facts a little before making wild
> assertions. Fomalhaut is the brightest star in Pisces, and the name
> literally means "mouth of the fish". Nothing at all about horses or
> doomsday.
>
> Sorry, try again?
>
> -=-=-=-=-
>
> "My investigations show that the most important woman in

> the world today is the whore of Babylon.

Carl R. Osterwald

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Feb 13, 2003, 1:42:42 PM2/13/03
to
In article <fdecae7c.03021...@posting.google.com> Betty Boop,
bigbr...@yahoo.com writes:

>Learn how to Google Surf before you dribble or no stewed carrots for
>you tonight, Herr Easter Forest.

Sorry, you lose, I did:

http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/hr/8728.html

So do you believe that stupidity about HAARP shooting the Columbia?

-=-=-=-=-

"My investigations show that the most important woman in

Kent Wills

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Feb 13, 2003, 2:14:30 PM2/13/03
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"DrPostman" <Loo...@mysig.formail> wrote in message
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> On 12 Feb 2003 13:59:34 -0800, rabbi...@hotmail.com (Rabbi Rocky MK
Ultra) in
> accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
us of
> their wisdom with:
>
> >HERE'S THE PROOF:
> >
>
>http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/haarp_conspiracy.html
> >
> >Disprove it or shut up.
> >
> >Rabbi Rocky
>
>
> Pretty stupid proof, especially in the face of someone who lives up there
> near the damned thing telling you that it is not operational. Have YOU
> seen it first hand? When was the last time you visited it up there in
> Alaska?
>
> BTW, the first time I looked at that web site I thought it was a parody.
>

You mean it's not?

Kent
--
Birthdays are good for you. Statistics show that the people who have the
most live the longest.

Spiros Haarp Antiochos

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HAARP microwave weapon disaster [of Columbia Space Shuttle] has
ancient ties to space warfare:

Akheneton is Isis-Ra-El or Moses
-- conspiracy in northern Greece, circa 3000 BC

http://www.a-m-h-r.org/aa/starry.html

The unfolding of the revelation of this plasma is made possible by the
fact that we ourselves are also the stuff that stars are made of. Our
electro-magnetic relationship as a race to the very stars in the sky
that we see at night is intimately integrated and potently plays
itself out in human history. It is non nuclear plasma, non-ionic,
non-electric, a form of magetism and gravity that we are completely
ill adept to translate with present day science.
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/haarp_conspiracy.html

"Let the stars be burnt up in the fire of my nostrils! Let all the
gods and the archangels and the angels and the spirits that are on the
earth, and above the earth, and below the earth, that are in all the
heavens and in all the hells, let them be as motes dancing in the beam
of mine eye!

I am he that swalloweth up death and victory.

Then there is a great plain with soldiers fighting upon it, and an
enormously high mountain carved into a thousand temples, and more
houses and fields and trees, and great cities with wonderful buildings
in them, statues and columns and public buildings generally. This goes
on and on and on and on and on and on and on all on the hairs of this
lion's tail.

And then there is the tuft of his tail, which is like a comet, but the
head is a new universe, and each hair streaming away from it is a
Milky Way. And then there is a pale stern figure, enormous, enormous,
bigger than all that universe is, in silver armour, with a sword and a
pair of balances. That is only vague. All has gone into stone-gray,
blank. "

I AM in a vast crystal cube in the form of the Great God Harpocrates.
This cube is surrounded by a sphere. About me are four archangels in
black robes, their wings and armour lined out in white. In the North
is a book on whose back and front are A.M.B.Z. in Enochian characters.

In recent years it was discovered that the Redwoods and Sequoia trees
had excess lime deposits at the base of these trees. Is it possible
that these trees have evolved the technique to remove the lime from
their water before it is taken in? [3]

"Lime is a coarse, white, solid substance that has many industrial
uses. It is very caustic (strongly alkaline), and can rapidly destroy
animal and plant tissues. It is often used to treat waste materials.
It has a strong chemical action when mixed with water, and may become
hot enough to boil the water.

Manufacturers use it in gas welding, glass, steel, refining sugar,
bleaching powder, fungicides, fertilizers, cement, mortar, and
whitewash."

And behind the plume is a shining filament of quartz, suspended
vertically from the abyss to the abyss. And in the midst is a winged
disk of some extremely delicate, translucent substance, on which is
written in the "dagger" alphabet: Torsion is iniquity. (This means,
that the Rashith Ha-Gilgalim is the first appearance of evil.)

There is a clash of a myriad silver cymbals, and silence. And then
three times a note is struck upon a bell, which sounds like my holy
Tibetan bell, that is made of electrum magicum.

The four Enochian characters are each attributed to one of the four
Cherubic signs; Taurus, Aquarius, Aries and Leo, respectively. The
robed archangels are the four Guardians; the four Watchers; the Four
Horsemen, esp. Gabriel, aka Fomalhaut; the Nephilim or Secret Chiefs.

First is the possibility that through crossbreeding with cavewomen,
man as we know him shortened his life span. This would mean that
Noah's three sons brought with them wives, who were not pure
descendants of Adam but those of the Anakim (Heb. ‘anaqim, sons of
Anak, Heb. ‘anaq, long-necked) or possibly the Canaanites. The early
Sumerian texts called them Anunnaki, "those who came from heaven to
earth."

The Anakim as in Genesis 6:4 they are the sons of the sons of God,
they are called the Nephilim (uncertain etymology, fallen ones), or
giants (Heb. rapha, raphah, Heb. gibbor, mighty, Rephaim of Canaan
ancestor of Og, king of Bashan, Emims of the Moabites, Zamzummims of
Ammonites Heb. murmurers, Zuzites in Gen. 14:5) who were of old, men
of renown. This crossbreeding may be the reason why the ancestors
believe that sexual relations could affect one's health. One might
even suspect that the Anakim were possibly the Greek Gods of mythology
'fallen angels' the original Hebrew 'B'nai Elohim' who did not survive
the Flood.

The second possibility is the atmospheric change of the ozone layer.

If this layer had been denser, then the immense radiation of
ultraviolet rays was less also. Radiation is the possible cause of
aging directly or indirectly in humans or animals. So when the change
in the atmosphere came allowing more radiation to strike the earth's
surface it also caused more rapid aging. Little is known about the
factors involved in aging.

The process seems to be correlated with specialization of cells for
one or a few highly specific functions. The cells of these ancients
were potentially immortal. Furthermore, the amount of radiation damage
would be proportional to the chronological age. I do not think man's
nervous system could take the strain his complex and fast modern world
exerts on him in a thousand years, so in that sense man is better off
with a shorter life span.

Apparently the dense clouds kept the radiation from affecting the
water and prevented any variations in the atmosphere's temperature.

Water to the ancients was believed to have extraordinary chemical and
medical properties, as if it were a universal solvent ensuring
longevity. This Tradition is in harmony with modern science, which
takes the view that water is a strongly reactive and highly complex
mixture. Researchers study oligo-elements and observe that all metals
are soluble in water in the presence of certain catalyzers such as
glucose at certain temperatures. Some biologists think that old age is
due to the accumulation of heavy water [deuterium] in the organism.

Some scientist believe that certain glands in the human body that no
longer function may have caused the increase in the aging process.

The elimination of heavy water [deuterium] may prolong life, and such
substance may exist in evaporated water, which could cause a
reproducing of cells for centuries. Water then may be capable of
prolonging life to a considerable extent by rejuvenating the tissues.

The answers may lie in the woody perennials, of which the Giant
Sequoia and Redwoods are extreme examples. They may live for thousands
of years, always continuing to grow. Maybe trees such as these contain
a function incomprehensible to us in which water is transformed or
unaffected by something that causes a rejuvenation of its cells.

[2]"Redwoods are among the world's tallest living trees. They grow 200
to 275 feet high and are 8 to 12 feet in diameter. In a typical
redwood forest, these massive trees grow close together, shutting out
most of the sunlight, leaving a cool, dim atmosphere. The Sequoia tree
ranks among the largest and oldest living things on earth. Millions of
years ago these trees grew in large forest throughout the world. Many
of these trees are several thousand years old. Some present day trees
are estimated to be 3,500 years old, around 1,305 B.C."


It is worth reminding ourselves, then, that the biblical edict to
abstain from blood came not from Enki but from Enlil -- the God who
had instigated the Flood, had wrought havoc in Ur and Babylon [but not
Lot's Sodom and Gommorah], and had endeavoured to help Adam by saying
that he would die if he drank from the Graal of Blood. This was a god
who liked people, and the Sumerian records are very clear in this
regard. Hence, if he forbade the taking of blood, this was likely to
have been an edict for the benefit of Noah and his descendants - it
was most probably the basis of their survival!

In strict terms the original Star Fire was the lunar essence of the
Goddess, but, even in an everyday mundane environment, menstruum
contains the most valuable endocrinal secretions, especially those of
the pineal and pituitary glands. The brain's pineal gland in
particular was directly associated with the Tree of Life, for this
tiny gland was said to secrete the very essence of active longevity,
called soma, or, as the Greeks called it, ambrosia.

In ancient Sumer, the key females of the Dragon succession were all
venerated as lilies [many lillies are clones and have no reproductive
capacity, some of the loveliest on earth -- lillies also have a
propensity for volcanic soil], having such names as Lili, Luluwa,
Lilith, Lilutu and Lillette.


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Spiros Haarp Antiochos

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http://www.a-m-h-r.org/aa/starry.html


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DrPostman

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On 13 Feb 2003 13:54:01 -0800, spiros_a...@yahoo.com (Spiros Haarp
Antiochos) in accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only"

availed us of their wisdom with:

>HAARP microwave weapon disaster [of Columbia Space Shuttle] has


>ancient ties to space warfare:


Are there ANY ties to your though process? Do you have enough of
a brain to have one?

DrPostman

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On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:14:30 -0600, "Kent Wills" <comp...@yahoo.com> in

accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:

>
>"DrPostman" <Loo...@mysig.formail> wrote in message
>news:8bjl4v4ott7q8vr3n...@4ax.com...
>> On 12 Feb 2003 13:59:34 -0800, rabbi...@hotmail.com (Rabbi Rocky MK
>Ultra) in
>> accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed
>us of
>> their wisdom with:
>>
>> >HERE'S THE PROOF:
>> >
>>
>>http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/haarp_conspiracy.html
>> >
>> >Disprove it or shut up.
>> >
>> >Rabbi Rocky
>>
>>
>> Pretty stupid proof, especially in the face of someone who lives up there
>> near the damned thing telling you that it is not operational. Have YOU
>> seen it first hand? When was the last time you visited it up there in
>> Alaska?
>>
>> BTW, the first time I looked at that web site I thought it was a parody.
>>
>
> You mean it's not?
>
>Kent


I'm still wondering if this wasn't a troll. If he is for real then that will
probably hurt his feelings a lot, but I could care less.

Spread Eagle

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haarps...@yahoo.com (HAARP Shuttle) wrote in message news:<e45be606.03020...@posting.google.com>...
> Here's the link to the proof;
>
> http://www.geocities.com/haarpshuttle/
>
> HAARP Shuttle

Just more looney tunes. It all started from the kooky democrat
political hack gadfly Nick Begich. I cringe whenever he's a guest on
Bell/Noory, and off goes the radio. This is the whackjob whose left
wingnut conspiracy theories know no limits. Nixon shot down his
father's plane. Bush shot down Wellstone's plane. Now, HAARP shot
down Columbia. I'd say: "Earth to Begich... I'm very sorry, but your
father tested fate one too many times in a single-engine bush plane
over the Alaskan wilderness, end of story, a sad story for sure, but
end of story," but he already knows that. He's making too good of a
living peddling the unholy alliance of junk science and left-wing
conspiracy theories to ever give it up.

Spread Eagle

HAARP Museum Association

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Today's NYT reported that the Shuttle Columbia encountered
"superheated microwave plasma particles" that deliver a "blow torch"
effect at somewhere between 145 degrees longitude and 125 degrees
longitude, West, i.e. somewhere between Gakona Alaska and the Sonoma
coastline of northern California. This is also in the same
neighborhood of longitude as the French Polynesian Islands.

How much does a laser or maser arc when shot straight up into the sky
aimed at an object that is about 55 miles high? Would that account
for the discrepancy between Gakona Alaska's longitude and Sonoma
County's coastline longitude, the westernmost point of the California
coastline?

The NYT also reported that all the troubles of the Columbia Shuttle
began at 450 or so miles off of the coast of California.

I am starting to deeply believe the probability that HAARP facilities
played a hand in this. Don't university nuclear accelerators and
laser and maser labs use up to a billion watts of energy, or even
more, in their experiments. It is not outlandish to think that the
HAARP facility in Alaska has access to this wattage also.
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/haarp_conspiracy.html
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/deadly.html

Kinetic-energy weapons against missile targets. This pulse can ram
headlong into a target in space or an object still within the upper
reaches of Earth's atmosphere; such as radio-frequency or
high-power-microwave munitions, that take almost a straight up
trajectory, plus or minus ten or twenty degrees of longitute to
account for arc.
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/space_war_020515-1.html

Brookhaven National Laboratory

The ATF is a proposal-driven Program-Committee-reviewed
Users'-Facility dedicated for long-term R&D in Physics of Beams. The
ATF core capabilities include a high-brightness photoinjector electron
gun, a 70 MeV linac, high power lasers synchronized to the electron
beam to a picosecond level, four beam lines (most with energy
spectrometers) and a sophisticated computer control system.
http://www.bnl.gov/atf/Menu.html

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HAARP Museum Association

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Brookhaven National Laboratory

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Remote Viewer 9x3=27

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An article in IEEE Spectrum 25 (3): 50-54 (1988), New York, was very
prescient, re. Today's new warfare and mind games. National
boundaries are not firm anylonger, they are "fluid". The US
government could in fact be the worst enemy of the American people,
and other examples, e.g. Vladimir Putin could be the nemesis of
Russia.

Poor translation of a german article on Gigawatts, microwave weapons,
and the battlefield of the future. Remote viewing [i.e. reading minds
via the microwave frequency of the human in question] was just the
beginning, the first drop of particle plasma in the bucket. Now it is
all space and our entire planet in jeopordy of attack:

Right from the open public files of our military
http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/pam/525-5/ref.htm

The original German website in German:
http://www.totalitaer.de/Waffen/thefuturebattlefield.htm


Not only against persons, but also against cars, airplanes, computers
and other devices the electronic construction units to be contained
radio frequency weapons assigned.

The future battlefield: A blow OF gigawatts?

Both the United States and the Soviet union of acres developing
microwave of generator ton assess vulnerabilities OF of missiles and
aircraft ton of high power beam weaponry

H. Keith Florig
In: IEEE Spectrum 25 (3): 50-54 (1988), New York

The battleground of the future: A fight with Gigawatts?

Both the United States and the Soviet Union develop microwave
generators around the vulnerability of rockets and airplanes by beam
weapons of high achievement to examine.

Microwaves can be manufactured today with so high achievements that
the United States and the Soviet Union evaluate their military
potential.

The largest danger consists of it that an opponent could use
microwaves of high achievement, in order electronic circuits, on which
depends many military systems, to disturb or destroy. Both strategic
and tactical systems are possible attack targets: Missile, ballistic
intercontinental missiles, satellites, airplanes, tanks, radar device
as well as communications and navigation systems.

Because however the armed forces of the United States and NATO are
more strongly on sensitive electronics in intelligent weapon systems
and thought out radar systems dependent as the Soviet and Warsaw Pact
armies, could be more verletzlicher the west by microwave weapons.

The research results refer also to some mechanisms, with which jets
could fight or temporarily switch soldiers off (...)

High speed microwaves can each system that on the processing of
electronic signals been based disturb. With high power densities they
destroy sensitive electronic semiconductor construction units in
electronic circuits. To most endangered construction units are
receiver diodes of radar device and communication devices, integrated
MOS circuits the one small energy consumption have and perhaps even
the semiconductors in the electronic ignition systems of vehicles.
Very high power densities could bring even explosive charges from
rockets, bombs and shells to the explosion.

With microwaves of lower power density electronic circuits can be
bombarded whereby wrong signals are released, so that the equipment
concerned is stopped up either with incorrect signals or the equipment
is temporarily set out of operation. One assumes that several crashes
of Black Hawk helicopters of the American army since the year 1982 the
result of influences of the control system of the helicopters by radio
frequency radiation during the flight in the proximity of soil and
schiffsradar or from radio communication systems to the transmission
of news are.

Semiconductor construction units can fail, if the taken up energy
quantity leads to the overheating. Because the semiconductor regions
of the construction units are very small, they need only one
microsecond, in order to deliver the taken up energy again to the
environment. Pulsed microwave weapons with pulse lengths of one
microsecond represent the strongest threat for semiconductor
construction units and among them.

Even if the limit values for the destruction of individual
construction units such as MOS transistors and receiver diodes
relatively well admits are, researchers have to understand only lately
begun, how high speed microwaves penetrate into whole systems. This
task is not simple. Engineers have some experience therein to estimate
the threat by the nuclear electromagnetic pulse (EMP). But this
experience is from limited importance, because the frequencies of the
high speed microwaves within the range of 0,5 to 100 gigahertz lie the
far over frequencies of the EMP from 1 to 100 megahertz.
High speed microwaves can penetrate into electronic systems by the
"front door" or by the "back door".

Energy linking by the front door designates the transmission of energy
over antennas of electronic systems transmitters or receivers
contained. Linking by the back door designates the penetration of
energy into electronic systems by openings and seams of the housing.

Linking by the front door takes place most strongly at the frequency,
for which the antenna was designed. The sensitivity of a system in
relation to such a coupling can often be measured from the
characteristic of its antenna and its receiver. Linking by the back
door is a by far more complicated phenomenon.
The housings of most electronic circuits serve to give this stop and
to protect them up to a certain degree against electromagnetic
influences.

Ray King and its coworkers in the Lawrence Livermore national
Laboratory in Livermore, California examine linking by the back door
as them not completely closed housings with pulsed and ungepulsten
microwaves illuminate and measure the signals caused in pieces of wire
within the housings. As well as the extent to that the microwaves into
the wires launching depends itself on the energy quantity, those into
the housing penetrates on the resonance characteristic.
Measurements of linking into wires in housings with small openings
show strong resonances with different frequencies. Linking is at the
strongest with the resonant frequency of the housing openings, thus
with wavelengths those the size of the housing openings corresponds.
Linking is reduced with removing frequency for frequencies below the
resonant frequency of the openings with occasional small increases
with the resonant frequencies of the wires in the housing.

Above the resonant frequency of the opening linking shows an even
acceptance with narrow resonant frequencies because of complex
electromagnetic conditions of the cavity of the housing.

If the incident high speed microwave jet is strong enough, air can
within the openings and seams of the housing ionized and thus leading
are prevented in this case the openings shielded and a further
penetration of the microwave energy. Thus linking of energy decreases
with some systems within a certain range of the irradiating microwave
energy with increasing strength. The in the long runness of a certain
system does not only become by screen and linking into wires and
cables of the circuit, but also by influence of the different
subsystems by tension and current draws at their entrances and exits
determines.

This influence can often be investigated by direct introduction by
pulses in the gigahertzbereich into these subsystems, with which one
simulates pulses of microwave radiation.


The research at original systems is to be preferred to the simulation.
But the sources of microwave of high achievement necessary for testing
airplanes and ground-based weapon systems must be only still
developed. Even if they are present it will remain further impossible
to guarantee the invulnerability of each system by attacks with high
speed microwaves. It would cost to examples of the possible
combinations of microwave frequency, range, much too much, an
individual system with more than unites pulse length, maximum
performance, to test jet direction and jet polarization.

System designers can seize a number of measures around the possibility
of the destruction or influence by high speed microwaves to reduce.
Systems, subsystems and feeder lines can become shielded. Filters can
know linking of system external frequency ranges to reduce subsystems
by fiber-optic cables to be connected.

Construction units to the protection from overvoltage or to high river
can abblocken strong pulses. Sensitive construction units like logical
MOS of construction units can be replaced by less sensitive circuits.
The period of operation of sensitive transmitters and receivers can be
reduced. Reserve circuits can be planned.

None of these measures offers absolute protection and most raises the
price of the equipment, worsens the achievement, increases the weight
and requires more maintenance.


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In article <29eb9b3.03021...@posting.google.com> Remote
Viewer 9x3=27, remotev...@hotmail.com writes:

>Ray King and its coworkers in the Lawrence Livermore national
>Laboratory in Livermore, California examine linking by the back door
>as them not completely closed housings with pulsed and ungepulsten
>microwaves illuminate and measure the signals caused in pieces of wire
>within the housings.

Say what?

Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)

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On 14 Feb 2003 13:28:45 -0800, elizabe...@hotmail.com (HAARP
Museum Association) wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:

>I am starting to deeply believe the probability that HAARP facilities
>played a hand in this.

I have a bridge for sale. Leads right into a "famous U.S. city", with
several million residents. Lots of traffic. Cheap, too!
--
V.G.

"Useful idiots follow suit. Artist my ass; I went to
grade school." - Allen L. Barker explains everything.

(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)

Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.

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On 14 Feb 2003 08:38:50 -0800, red...@virtualhosts.net (Spread Eagle)
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An accurate and concise summary, Sir. Subscribe!

Joseph

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>
> On 14 Feb 2003 08:38:50 -0800, red...@virtualhosts.net (Spread Eagle)
> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
> >>
> >> HAARP Shuttle
> >
> >Just more looney tunes. It all started from the kooky democrat

??? Most conspiracy lunacy comes from right wing kooks. Never heard
of Nick Begich until now. Do you think Art Bell (who is much better
known) is a Democrat?

DrPostman

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On 14 Feb 2003 13:23:30 -0800, elizabe...@hotmail.com (HAARP Museum
Association) in accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes

Only" availed us of their wisdom with:

>I am starting to deeply believe the probability that HAARP facilities
>played a hand in this.

"starting to"? Hell, you've been obsessed with the idea all along. I asked
you if you had been up to Alaska to see for yourself. You didn't answer.
Evasion noted.

DrPostman

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On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 05:10:29 GMT, Joseph <jaa...@mapson.attbi.com> in

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>
>>


Bell belongs to the Opportunists Party.

Kent Wills

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"Joseph" <jaa...@mapson.attbi.com> wrote in message
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Nope. He's Libertarian. He's made a big deal about this fact in the
past.

DrPostman

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On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 00:24:21 -0600, "Kent Wills" <comp...@yahoo.com> in

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>


>"Joseph" <jaa...@mapson.attbi.com> wrote in message
>news:3E4DCC2F...@mapson.attbi.com...
>>
>> >
>> > On 14 Feb 2003 08:38:50 -0800, red...@virtualhosts.net (Spread Eagle)
>> > wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>> > >>
>> > >> HAARP Shuttle
>> > >
>> > >Just more looney tunes. It all started from the kooky democrat
>>
>> ??? Most conspiracy lunacy comes from right wing kooks. Never heard
>> of Nick Begich until now. Do you think Art Bell (who is much better
>> known) is a Democrat?
>
> Nope. He's Libertarian. He's made a big deal about this fact in the
>past.
>
>Kent

That's what he has said. What he really is has very to do with libertarianism.

Rumsfeld Cow Rumen

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After readin your website i surfed and found much more on the downed
Shuttle and HAARP --->>>

Magnetrons, linear beam tubes, and vircators operate
at high peak powers below about 10 GHz [GIGAHERTZ] aka, 1,000,000,000
periods per second. Cavity dimensions and frequency are inversely
related. High frequencies, then, mean smaller cavity dimensions,
higher power densities,
http://infoserve.sandia.gov/cgi-bin/techlib/access-control.pl/2001/011155.pdf

HAARP and ELF: Some other important supporting technologies for an
HPM weapon system are target tracking and aiming equipment and methods
of damage assessment.

Target tracking and aiming for HPM weapons is, in one sense, easier
than for lasers because the beam width and spot size are so much
larger. On the other hand, since one advantage of the microwave region
is its ability to penetrate smoke, clouds, and fog, target tracking
may have to depend on radar imaging techniques. Aiming can be
difficult mechanically due to the size of high gain antennas.
Electronic beam steering would depend on accurate phase control of
multiple HPM sources. Damage assessment is perhaps the most difficult
supporting technology of all to develop. Since HPM weapons usually
depend on electronic kill or upset, there is no "smoking hole" as an
observable.

Right from the open public files of our own military on the new
electronic and beam and microwave warfare:
http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/pam/525-5/ref.htm

H.K. Florig, "The Future Battlefield:
A Blast of Gigawatts," IEEE Spectrum, 25(3):50-54, March 1988.

An article in IEEE Spectrum 25 (3): 50-54 (1988), New York, was very

prescient, re. today's new microwave warfare and global mind games.
National boundaries are not firm anylonger, they are "plasmic". The
US
government could, in fact, be the worst enemy of the American people,


and other examples, e.g. Vladimir Putin could be the nemesis of
Russia.

A BRIEF TECHNOLOGY SURVEY OF
HIGH-POWER MICROWAVE SOURCES

This work was supported by Lockheed Martin Corporation
under DOE Agreement number 00AL66799.

A Brief Technology Survey of High-Power Microwave Sources

Larry D. Bacon and Larry F. Rinehart
High Power Electromagnetics Department
Sandia National Laboratories
P. O. Box 5800
Albuquerque, NM 87185-1153

Abstract

This report provides a brief summary of the characteristics of
contemporary high-power microwave sources. The focus is on their
physical and operational characteristics and regions of application
rather than their theory of operation. Magnetrons, linear beam tubes,
split-cavity oscillators, virtual cathode oscillators, gyrotrons,
free-electron lasers, and orbitron microwave masers are described.
Power supply requirements and engineering issues of the application of
HPM devices are addressed.

CONTENTS
Section
Page
1.0 INTRODUCTION 7
2.0 GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS OF HPM SOURCES 7
2.1 IMPULSIVE SOURCES 8
2.2 MAGNETRONS 8
2.3 LINEAR BEAM TUBES 9
2.4 SPLIT-CAVITY OSCILLATORS 10
2.5 VIRTUAL CATHODE OSCILLATORS 10
2.6 GYROTRONS 11

2.7 FREE-ELECTRON LASERS 11
2.8 ORBITRON MICROWAVE MASERS 12

3.0 POWER SUPPLIES FOR HPM SOURCES 12

4.0 HPM SOURCE ISSUES 12
4.1 COMPACTNESS 13
4.2 EFFICIENCY 13

4.3 ANTENNA SIZE 13

4.4 PEAK VERSUS AVERAGE POWER 13
4.5 SUPPORTING TECHNOLOGIES 14

In impulsive sources, the RF generator is implemented by charging the
antenna, a transmission line, or a tuned circuit directly and causing
them to
ring for one or several cycles by closing a switch. Examples of this
source type are the various ultrawideband (UWB) sources and the LC
Oscillator (LCO).

In linear beam sources, the RF generator includes an electron beam
generator, beam transport, and a wave structure. These sources work by
converting the kinetic energy of an electron beam into the
electromagnetic energy of the microwave beam. Examples of these
sources include:

• Magnetrons
• Linear Beam Tubes (Klystrons, Backward Wave Oscillators, Travelling
Wave
Tubes)
• Split-Cavity Oscillators
• Virtual Cathode Oscillators
• Gyrotrons
• Free-Electron Lasers
• Orbitron Microwave Masers

4.0 HPM SOURCE ISSUES
Several issues must be dealt with before HPM sources can be taken out
of the laboratories and weaponized. They include compactness,
efficiency, antenna size, and peak versus average powers.

4.1 COMPACTNESS
Compactness is a general problem of military applications of HPM
sources. (Benford and Swegle 1992, 19) The size of a particular HPM
technology is often not apparent from a book or technical article
describing only the tube. It is an HPM weapon system that must be
fielded, not just a tube. The system includes the prime power source,
power conditioning, microwave energy transport to the antenna, and the
antenna. High powers, whether peak or average, drive up the size and
weight of the system.

4.3 ANTENNA SIZE
High power density on target at significant ranges requires both high
powers and high directivity in the antenna. High directivity requires
an antenna many wavelengths in size.

Maneuverability requirements, survivability under fire, drag, visual
signature, etc. make room for large antennas very difficult to find on
any platform. In addition, increasing the power passing through a
fixed antenna aperture increases the probability of electrical
breakdown, especially at high altitudes or in a dusty environment.

Magnetrons, linear beam tubes, and vircators operate at high peak
powers below about 10 GHz. Cavity dimensions and frequency are
inversely related. High frequencies, then, mean smaller cavity
dimensions, higher power densities,
http://infoserve.sandia.gov/cgi-bin/techlib/access-control.pl/2001/011155.pdf

Right from the open public files of our own military on the new
electronic and beam and microwave warfare:
http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/pam/525-5/ref.htm

Pat Flannery <fla...@daktel.com> wrote in message ...


>
> >Today's NYT reported that the Shuttle Columbia encountered
> >"superheated microwave plasma particles" that deliver a "blow torch"
> >effect

Carl R. Osterwald <i...@mac.com> wrote in message news:<v4qrbat...@corp.supernews.com>...


> In article <29eb9b3.03021...@posting.google.com> Remote
> Viewer 9x3=27, remotev...@hotmail.com writes:
>
> >Ray King and its coworkers in the Lawrence Livermore national
> >Laboratory in Livermore, California examine linking by the back door
> >as them not completely closed housings with pulsed and ungepulsten
> >microwaves illuminate and measure the signals caused in pieces of wire
> >within the housings.
>
> Say what?
>
> -=-=-=-=-
>
> "My investigations show that the most important woman in

> the world today is the whore of Babylon.
> -- Kansan1225 boosts his limited circumference size.

Natashya Kinskii

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Feb 15, 2003, 3:58:53 PM2/15/03
to
Two comets of war are in perihelion now, one approaching the sun's
shores, the other just barely leaving the sun's pull, and they will
pass each other [moving in opposite directions] around March 2-4,
2003, in between the orbit of Mercury and the Sun close to the star
Fomalhaut [one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse] the same day
that intelligence agencies predict GW Bush will trigger a nuclear war
by being the warmongering aggressor in Iraq. Comet 2002/ X5
(Kudo-Fujikawa) and V1 [NEAT] ... this comet will be making a very,
very close approach to the Sun at perihelion, less than 0.1 AU. Look
up their orbits on Google!

Is this a portent of a growing tension between the two top producers
of microwave beam warfare, the HAARP of the DoD, and the
Rosoboronexport (aka Rosvoorouzhenie) of Russia?

Or are Bush and Putin members of the same secret society and actually
co-partners in this strategy?

Who are they planning to use it against?

Rosoboronexport [formerly know as Rosvoorouzhenie] -- Russian
Calibration of Equipment to Measure High-power Pulse Electromagnetic
Fields

Several years ago Rosoboronexport (then Rosvoorouzhenie) initiated a
programme to harness Russia's technical know-how, especially in the
field of microwave weapons, and create systems that would make
attractive exports. The programme involved a search for concepts and
developments that could enable Russia to establish a new level in
military and technical co-operation with other countries. The
fundamental principle of co-operation was there would be a categorical
exclusion of information related to weapons of mass destruction and
the technologies for their manufacture. All research and development
activity on weapons has been under the stringent control of the
Russian Federation Ministry of Defense, sources said.

The move to pursue previously classified non-strategic concepts and
technologies with a view to exporting systems based on them has been
applauded by Russia's special services, who have long worried about
the leak of ideas and technologies to the West through scientific
exchange. This was partly the reasoning behind giving scientists an
opportunity to implement some of their ideas in commercial projects
within a state-controlled scheme, removing external scientific
contacts. Following the nuclear weapons tests by India and Pakistan in
1998, Russia offered foreign customers the use of its testing
facilities to evaluate the robustness of their military hardware in a
nuclear environment, presumably in the presence of an electromagnetic
pulse. The research was supposed to be performed in Russia. The
advantage of this system, officials said, is that the customer could
perform tests without setting off nuclear devices. All the contracts
concerning this area have been strictly classified. However, the
availability of Russian facilities is said to have triggered a boom of
requests from abroad.

Scott M. Kozel

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Feb 15, 2003, 4:19:22 PM2/15/03
to
natasha...@hotmail.com (Natashya Kinskii) wrote:
>
> Two comets of war are in perihelion now, one approaching the sun's
> shores, the other just barely leaving the sun's pull, and they will
> pass each other [moving in opposite directions] around March 2-4,
> 2003, in between the orbit of Mercury and the Sun close to the star
> Fomalhaut [one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse] the same day
> that intelligence agencies predict GW Bush will trigger a nuclear war
> by being the warmongering aggressor in Iraq. Comet 2002/ X5
> (Kudo-Fujikawa) and V1 [NEAT] ... this comet will be making a very,
> very close approach to the Sun at perihelion, less than 0.1 AU. Look
> up their orbits on Google!

You need to take your Thorazine. Now!!

Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)

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Feb 15, 2003, 4:31:11 PM2/15/03
to
On 15 Feb 2003 12:58:53 -0800, natasha...@hotmail.com (Natashya
Kinskii) wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:

>Is this a portent

No.

Scott M. Kozel

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Feb 15, 2003, 6:46:20 PM2/15/03
to
R...@mindless.com (Ronald Grant, Inc. ) wrote:

>
> natasha...@hotmail.com (Natashya Kinskii) wrote:
>
> >Or are Bush and Putin members of the same secret society and actually
> >co-partners in this strategy?
>
> Yes.

>
> >Who are they planning to use it against?
>
> You first because you told.

Keyboard!

steve rogers

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Feb 15, 2003, 9:00:21 PM2/15/03
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DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail> wrote in message news:<8c8s4v021e57hnfod...@4ax.com>...

What does this have to do with lasers? huh?

John Griffin

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Feb 16, 2003, 6:07:15 AM2/16/03
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rumsfeld_...@yahoo.com (Rumsfeld Cow Rumen) wrote

> After readin your website i surfed and found much more on the downed
> Shuttle and HAARP --->>>

I was just wondering...are the gullible nitwits who swallow
this moronic HAARP thing the same gullible nitwits who swallow
the idiotic "lunar landing hoax" bullshit?

So, they hit the shuttle with a GIGAWATT death ray while it
was far under the horizon and moving 13,000 miles per hour.
Blasting a gigawatt of radiation into the upper atmosphere
had no noticeable effect anywhere else, and it only made a
tiny dent or puncture in the shuttle's skin.

You have to laugh at people who are stupid enough to believe
something like that, but be sure to save plenty of laughter
for their attempts to explain why that was done. I expect
to hear that idiot Nemo and a few other mindless cretins
say "They did it for oil."

Jack

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Feb 16, 2003, 12:04:11 PM2/16/03
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theonetru...@hotmail.com (John Griffin) wrote in message news:<fd12f075.03021...@posting.google.com>...

> rumsfeld_...@yahoo.com (Rumsfeld Cow Rumen) wrote
> <snip>

>
>
> So, they hit the shuttle with a GIGAWATT death ray while it
> was far under the horizon and moving 13,000 miles per hour.
> Blasting a gigawatt of radiation into the upper atmosphere
> had no noticeable effect anywhere else, and it only made a
> tiny dent or puncture in the shuttle's skin.
>

the sun pours so much radiation into the ionosphere every day (which
discharges every night) that HAARP's contribution is like a candle
compared to a blast furnace.

the level of stupidity in claims like this purported "shootdown" is
unmatchable.

Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)

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Feb 16, 2003, 3:37:19 PM2/16/03
to
On 16 Feb 2003 03:07:15 -0800, theonetru...@hotmail.com (John
Griffin) wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:

>rumsfeld_...@yahoo.com (Rumsfeld Cow Rumen) wrote
>
>> After readin your website i surfed and found much more on the downed
>> Shuttle and HAARP --->>>
>
>I was just wondering...are the gullible nitwits who swallow
>this moronic HAARP thing the same gullible nitwits who swallow
>the idiotic "lunar landing hoax" bullshit?

Generally, yes.

DrPostman

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Feb 16, 2003, 7:38:04 AM2/16/03
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On 15 Feb 2003 18:00:21 -0800, stever...@sbcglobal.net (steve rogers) in

accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:

>DrPostman <Loo...@mysig.formail> wrote in message news:<8c8s4v021e57hnfod...@4ax.com>...
>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 00:24:21 -0600, "Kent Wills" <comp...@yahoo.com> in
>> accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
>> their wisdom with:
>>
>> >
>> >"Joseph" <jaa...@mapson.attbi.com> wrote in message
>> >news:3E4DCC2F...@mapson.attbi.com...
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > On 14 Feb 2003 08:38:50 -0800, red...@virtualhosts.net (Spread Eagle)
>> >> > wrote in alt.fan.art-bell:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> HAARP Shuttle
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Just more looney tunes. It all started from the kooky democrat
>> >>
>> >> ??? Most conspiracy lunacy comes from right wing kooks. Never heard
>> >> of Nick Begich until now. Do you think Art Bell (who is much better
>> >> known) is a Democrat?
>> >
>> > Nope. He's Libertarian. He's made a big deal about this fact in the
>> >past.
>> >
>> >Kent
>>
>> That's what he has said. What he really is has very to do with libertarianism.

>What does this have to do with lasers? huh?


Art Bell thinks they are being beamed to his asshole.

DrPostman

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Feb 16, 2003, 7:36:47 AM2/16/03
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On 15 Feb 2003 12:58:53 -0800, natasha...@hotmail.com (Natashya Kinskii) in

accordance with The Prophecy and "For Entertainment Purposes Only" availed us of
their wisdom with:

>Two comets of war are in perihelion now, one approaching the sun's


Changing your nick doesn't make you any less kookier. Especially when
you post the same stale screed.

Gregor Gysi

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Feb 17, 2003, 1:03:13 PM2/17/03
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MINOR CORRECTION: The Ides of March is the 15th, not the 4th.

Israeli intelligence agencies, according to THE LEON CHARNEY REPORT,
have leaked that GW Bush will attack and bomb Iraq during the first
new moon of March, which is sometime between March 1st and March 2nd.
This does, however, correspond to your 2-comets curving around the
shores of our sun conspiracy potential, at this time. The two comets
will be parallel, around March 2-4th, one coming into the sun, the
other heading back out towards Jupiter, halfway between our Sun and
the planet Mercury.

HAARP and Rosoboronexport, uuhhmmm ... those two Microwave beam
weapons of mass destruction, in all probability, ARE IN FACT just two
faces of the same secret order, that is GW Bush is "Skull", and
Vladimir Putin is "Bones".

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/haarp_conspiracy.html

Rudolph_X <nos...@nothanx.org> wrote in message news:<3E5040BD...@nothanx.org>...


> Natashya Kinskii wrote:
>
> > Two comets of war are in perihelion now, one approaching the sun's

> > shores, the other just barely leaving the sun's pull, and they will
> > pass each other [moving in opposite directions] around March 2-4,
> > 2003, in between the orbit of Mercury and the Sun close to the star
> > Fomalhaut [one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse] the same day
> > that intelligence agencies predict GW Bush will trigger a nuclear war
> > by being the warmongering aggressor in Iraq. Comet 2002/ X5
> > (Kudo-Fujikawa) and V1 [NEAT] ... this comet will be making a very,
> > very close approach to the Sun at perihelion, less than 0.1 AU. Look
> > up their orbits on Google!
> >

> > Is this a portent of a growing tension between the two top producers
> > of microwave beam warfare, the HAARP of the DoD, and the
> > Rosoboronexport (aka Rosvoorouzhenie) of Russia?
> >

> > Or are Bush and Putin members of the same secret society and actually
> > co-partners in this strategy?
> >

> > Who are they planning to use it against?
> >

"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message news:<njtv4v4p0ah8kakrh...@4ax.com>...

Colin Powell Whitepoodle

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Feb 17, 2003, 4:37:08 PM2/17/03
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MINOR CORRECTION: The Ides of March is the 15th, not the 4th.

Israeli intelligence agencies, according to THE LEON CHARNEY REPORT,
have leaked that GW Bush will attack and bomb Iraq during the first
new moon of March, which is sometime between March 1st and March 2nd.
This does, however, correspond to your 2-comets curving around the
shores of our sun conspiracy potential, at this time. The two comets
will be parallel, around March 2-4th, one coming into the sun, the
other heading back out towards Jupiter, halfway between our Sun and
the planet Mercury.

HAARP and Rosoboronexport, uuhhmmm ... those two Microwave beam
weapons of mass destruction, in all probability, ARE IN FACT just two

faces of the same secret order, that is GW Bush is "Skull" [HAARP],
and Vladimir Putin is "Bones" [Rosvoorouzhenie].

"HAARP & Rosvoorouzhenie"

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/haarpmicrowaves/haarp_conspiracy.html
[the 2 COMETS photos and orbits inching near our sun are given at the
bottom of this website]

Two comets of war are in perihelion now, one approaching the sun's
shores, the other just barely leaving the sun's pull, and they will
pass each other [moving in opposite directions] around March 2-4,
2003, in between the orbit of Mercury and the Sun close to the star
Fomalhaut [one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse] the same day
that intelligence agencies predict GW Bush will trigger a nuclear
war by being the warmongering aggressor in Iraq. Comet 2002/ X5
(Kudo-Fujikawa) and V1 [NEAT] ... this comet will be making a very,
very close approach to the Sun at perihelion, less than 0.1 AU.

Look up their orbits on Google!

Is this a portent of a growing tension between the two top producers
of microwave beam warfare, the HAARP of the DoD, and the

Rosoboronexport [aka Rosvoorouzhenie) of Russia?
http://www.rbs.ru/vttv/99/Firms/RosVoor/e-index.htm

HAARP puts out three billion watts of power:
http://www.superforce.com/email-releases/HAARP.htm
http://www.echoedvoices.org/Jan2002/JanHaarp.html

PINE GAP, Australia, working with DoD and HAARP:
[Signals intelligence, or "sigint" - including satellite telephone,
microwave phone and walkie-talkie communications and some military
radio transmissions - are sucked down to Pine Gap from US military
satellites, processed and sent on to the US National Security Agency.]
An elaborate underground city is located deep beneath the surface
features of Pine Gap,
not so far from Ayers Rock [comet debris?]
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/519/519p24.htm

ARE Bush and Putin members of the same secret society and actually


co-partners in this strategy?

Who are they planning to use it against?

Rosoboronexport [formerly know as Rosvoorouzhenie] -- Russian

MICROWAVE BRAIN CONTROL & COCHLEAR IMPLANTS, U.S. Black Ops:
http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctrl/microwave.html

The sensors-transmitter, which is EEG micro technology, read the brain
waves and transmit a digital signal. The signal is extraordinarily
strong for such a small device. The signal can travel several miles.
It is picked up by a relay receiver and transmitted to a computer,
where instantaneously the software reads the digits and converts them
into language. This is all done at radio wave speed, or the speed of
light.

Effectively, A PERSON WITH THE INVOLUNTARY IMPLANT HAS EVERY THOUGHT
READ WITHOUT KNOWING IT. It sounds like science fiction or paranoia
doesn't it? It is not fiction and it is not the product of a
psychosis. It is absolutely true.

The technology is this advanced, and the criminal organization is this
psychopathic. The Organization relies on it sounding so bizarre and
heinous that no one would believe it. It is extremely cruel high
technology reality. ANY ONE WHO DISCLOSES THEIR DIABOLICAL METHODS IS
EASILY DISCREDITED, TERRORIZED, MIND CONTROLLED, OR MURDERED by The
Organization.

Accompanying the above "thought reading" technique are the "thought
inserting" techniques. Very low frequency subliminal sound has been
used for years for "inserting" ideas into one's mind. Basically, very
low frequency subliminal sound is perceived by the victim as one's own
thinking. It bypasses the normal auditory system, but the content of
the words is perceived. Because it is so subtle, if a broadcast is in
first person language, an unaware person finds it impossible to
discriminate the subliminal broadcast from one's own thoughts.
Microwaves are those commonly used in radar sets and microwave ovens,
for example.

The principal advantage of EHF over E(L)F lies in the fact that its
transmissions are "straight line" and can thus be beamed with ease
into small or tiny areas. E(L)F, by comparison, tends to scatter
widely.

Microwaves are generated by a device known as a "Magnetron" in which
electrons, generated by a heated cathode, are moved by the combined
force of a magnetic and electrical field. The cathode is a hollow
cylinder with the outside coated with barium and strontium oxide
electron emitters. Arranged concentrically around the outside of the
cathode is a large cylindrical anode containing a large number of
"resonant cavities", normally of quarter- wavelength, on the inner
surface. When switched on, the magnetron generates an electrical field
radially between anode and cathode, while the magnetic field is
coaxial with the cathode.

The complete assembly is sealed inside a vacuum enclosure. The maximum
power output is naturally limited by the size of the individual
Magnetron but research indicates the largest can generate a stream of
microwave "pulses" at up to ten million watts per pulse. The resulting
microwave pulsed beam can be focused in much the same way as a camera
lens - from ultra wide angle to telephoto - creating area or pinpoint
capability.

Fortunately the Magnetron is not a small device. Informed sources
indicate a portable Magnetron powerful enough to harm a large group of
demonstrators, for example, would require space equal to a small
truck.

Prof Rollerball

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Feb 17, 2003, 6:30:19 PM2/17/03
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Hi!
HAARP is a meteorological research project run by a consortium of
universities. It's operations are completely unclassified, i.e not secret.
Its maximum transmitter strength is 3,600 kilowatts, said to be in line with
some other high-powered transmitters. That is nearer three million watts
than three billion! A thousand times weaker! There is an official HAARP
website http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/ that explains everything. Transient
effects of heating of the ionosphere may be attributable to HAARP, but no
more.

Cheers, RB

Ronald Grant, Inc. wrote in message
<3e546863....@news.direcway.com>...
>On 17 Feb 2003 13:37:08 -0800, colin_powell...@yahoo.co.uk

>You touch yourself inappropriately too much.
>
>
>
>Life is like a box of mullets.
> Seymore D'fare


John Griffin

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Feb 17, 2003, 9:09:07 PM2/17/03
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grego...@hotmail.com (Gregor Gysi) wrote

> MINOR CORRECTION: The Ides of March is the 15th, not the 4th.

MAJOR CORRECTION: Top posting is lame and stupid.

> Israeli intelligence agencies, according to THE LEON CHARNEY REPORT,
> have leaked that GW Bush will attack and bomb Iraq during the first
> new moon of March, which is sometime between March 1st and March 2nd.

That narrows it down. After 3/1 and before 3/2.
However, it might interest you to know that GW Bush will stay
in Washington. He will not attack anyone. He won't even
authorize an attack unless the U.S. Senate agrees. Where did
you get the dumb idea that the president goes to war like
some primitive king riding on his charger?

> This does, however, correspond to your 2-comets curving around the
> shores of our sun conspiracy potential, at this time. The two comets
> will be parallel, around March 2-4th, one coming into the sun, the
> other heading back out towards Jupiter, halfway between our Sun and
> the planet Mercury.

"Shores of our sun." Cool. Meaningless.
The two comets have absolutely nothing to do with Earth.
Their orbits don't intersect ours, and that's that,
regardless of any silly primitive superstition.

> HAARP and Rosoboronexport, uuhhmmm ... those two Microwave beam
> weapons of mass destruction, in all probability, ARE IN FACT just two
> faces of the same secret order, that is GW Bush is "Skull", and
> Vladimir Putin is "Bones".

That was funny. It occurs to me that you might be serious,
but that would make it even funnier.

> http://PopupHellKookWebsite
>

> [ previous conversation snipped ]

Duck Bill Platypus

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Feb 18, 2003, 3:56:39 PM2/18/03
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colin_powell...@yahoo.co.uk (Colin Powell Whitepoodle) wrote in message news:<a9f910cd.03021...@posting.google.com>...


Thank you Colin for the news on Pine Gap Australia, HAARP Alaska, and
the Russian microwave beam weapon that is similar. Here are some
interesting facts on Manitoba Canada. Are there deep throat ties?

gamma-ray lasers, or grasers

and

masers... all about HAARP !!

This has a domino effect with the neighboring atoms: when they are
struck by the photons emitted by the first atom, they also emit two
photons of the same color. The result is a very pure and very intense
beam of light. If the light is of a visible frequency, it is called a
laser.

If it is in the microwave band of the spectrum [i.e. non-visible, like
the beam that struck the Space Shuttle Columbia], it is a maser.

The term itself stands for microwave amplification by stimulation
emission of radiation--which is the process just described.

You probably already know that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom.
But they cannot orbit at any arbitrary distance: there are specific
shells in which they must dwell. The shells are like the rungs of a
ladder: you may step on any rung you choose, but you can't step
between them.

Electrons can move among the shells, but they must have a hall pass to
do so. To get a hall pass, an electron must intercept a photon (a
packet of light energy) of exactly the right frequency (or color). The
photon gives the electron a boost of energy, allowing it to jump up to
a higher shell. If the electron should later fall back down to its
original shell, it will release a photon of precisely the same
frequency.

There are situations where many atoms have electrons which have been
boosted to the same energy level. We say those atoms have been pumped.
You could also think of it as being primed--they're ready for
something interesting to happen. That something occurs when another
photon hits an atom which has been pumped. This gives the atom another
boost of energy which it doesn't quite know what to do
with--considering it has already been pumped by another encounter. So,
it emits two of the same kind of photons--one is the incoming, or
incident, photon; the other is of the same type that pumped the atom
in the beginning.

HAARP: This has a domino effect with the neighboring atoms: when they
are struck by the photons emitted by the first atom, they also emit
two photons of the same color. The result is a very pure and very
intense beam of light. If the light is of a visible frequency, it is
called a laser.

If it is in the microwave band of the spectrum [i.e. non-visible, like
the beam that struck the Space Shuttle Columbia], it is a maser.

The term itself stands for microwave amplification by stimulation
emission of radiation--which is the process just described.

Manitoba's Aerospace Industry

Manitoba's Infrastructure
Manitoba Aerospace Firms

Company Principal / Position Work Phone


MAGELLAN AEROSPACE CORPORATION – MANITOBA CANADA -- BRISTOL
AEROSPACE LIMITED


Design

Bristol's diverse manufacturing capabilities are enhanced by having a
strong engineering group on staff to participate in design and build
and simultaneous engineering programs.

Bristol's engineers are equipped with the latest design tools
including Catia, Unigraphics CAD/CAM complete with 3D solids modeling,
MSC Nastran, Aerodynamic, Computational Fluid Dynamics, and Heat
Transfer Modeling. These activities are supported by a research and
development program which keeps Bristol in step with technological
advances.

Whether the requirements are for "clean sheet design" to customer
specifications or re-design for product improvement, Bristol has the
design experience and resources.

Forming

The forming and blanking capabilities include brakes, stretch presses,
rubber forming presses, drop hammer, horn presses, bulge presses and
NC turret punches. These range from 15 tons to 3750 tons.

Welding

Bristol's welding capabilities include conventional arc, tungsten
inert gas, resistance - spot/continuous seam and electron beam.
Bristol's welding capabilities include expertise with materials such
as titanium, zirconium, super alloys - nickel and cobalt, aluminum,
high strength and stainless steels.

Brazing

The Company performs vacuum and induction brazing including the highly
specialized brazing of honeycomb panels.

Machining

Complete with 5-axis milling centres, horizontal and vertical CNC
lathes, electrical discharge and conventional machine equipment,
Bristol offers one of the most comprehensive machining facilities in
North America.

Heat Treat

Bristol features a complete range of furnaces to heat treat, anneal,
normalize, stress relieve and age all types of aerospace alloys.

Coating and Chemical Processing

Capabilities include chromic, sulphuric, and phosphoric acid anodizing
as well as the application of dry film lube.


Composites

Bristol has developed extensive expertise in the manufacture of
components using both composites and metal-to-metal bonding.

Graphite, Kevlar, fibreglass and various core materials are used to
produce lightweight, durable composite components. Bristol's 71,600
square foot, state-of-the-art Composite Manufacturing Centre features
3-axis high speed CNC trimming, 5-axis CNC gantry trimming, CNC cloth
cutting, CNC core cutting, freezer facilities, paint room, autoclaves,
and a spacious clean room.

Bristol also has experience in advanced metal-to-metal bonding. This
expertise involves components such as structural panels, engine
ducting and flight control surfaces.

A. M. Castle & Company George Pic, District Manager 204-233-8558
ACS Coatings John Gergely, President 204-633-4755
Acsion Industries
www.acsion.com Chris Saunders, President 204-753-8424
ext. 2890
Advanced Composite Structures Jim Anning, President 204-982-6565
Aero Consulting Services Lane Helms, VP Engineering 204-783-5402
Aero Recip (Canada) Ltd.
www.aerorecip.com Alvin Gregorash, President 204-788-4765
Aerotech Herman Nelson Inc. Paul Sigurdson, Chief Executive Officer
204-633-1999
Air Canada Aircraft Maintenance W.H. (Bill) Zoeller, Manager, Aircraft
Maintenance Base 204 985-5910
AML Wireless Systems
www.amlwireless.com Janice Nagazine, General Manager 204-949-5460
Base Composite Technologies Inc. Sean McKay, Vice President
Engineering 204-255-7438
Blayd Corporation John Claverley, President 204-745-2878
Boeing Canada Technology Ltd James E. Sawyer, President 204-831-2616
Bristol Aerospace Limited James Butyniec, Vice President and General
Manager 204-788-2807
Cadorath Aerospace Inc. Gerry Cadorath, Vice President Marketing
204-633-2707
Canadian Aviation Training Centre Hayden Henwood, Director
204-428-4375
Canadian Propeller Ltd Maurice Wills, President 204-832-8679
Composite Technology Inc George Prigroski 204-661-6412
Cormer Group Industries Inc. Andrew Corner, President 204-987-6400
Custom Steel Manufacturing Ltd. Ray Haydaman, President 204-783-2272
Dunlop Standard Aerospace Group
www.dsagrp.com Robert Hamaberg 204-987-8860
Enduron Custom Inc. Richard Klassen, General Manager 204-885-2580
ext. 310
EPT Manufacturing Ltd. Ernie Enns, President 204-632-0938
Field Aviation Les Mack, Maintenance Manager 204-428-4253
Franklin Enterprises Ltd. Zoltan Gergely, Snr., President 204-633-9838
Grey Owl Aviation Consultants Richard Komarnski, 204-848-7353
J.R. Stephenson Mfg Ltd. Alain Mathieu, General Manager 204-786-2491
K & S Tool & Die Ltd. Peter Klein, President 204-697-2951
Kraus Industries Ltd Juergen Kraus, President 204-988-1234
Manitoba Aerospace Association Don Price, Executive Director
204-772-0003
Manitoba Aerospace HR Coord Committee
www.manitoba-aerospace.mb.ca D'Arcy Phillips, Coordinator 204-772-0003
Materials Science & Technology Consulting Alan Phillipson 204-669-6655
National Coating Technologies John Read, President 204-632-5585
Northen Aero Industries Ltd. Richard Williamson, General Manager
204-772-9922
Precision Metalcraft Inc. Matt Kaufmann, Vice-President 204-694-7200
Prop Work Propeller Systems Jim Ross 204-837-4961
SERCO Aviation Services Allan McCrimmon, Manager Airport Control
Services 204-428-4208
Southport Aerospace Centre Inc. John Pittman, Director and Chief
Executive Officer 800-558-4680
Spectrum Manufacturing Co. Ltd. Onofre Masesar, Sales Manager
204-988-1208
Spiece Associates Inc. Gene Spiece 204-261-7452
Standard Aero Limited David Shaw, President 204-788-2211
Standard Machine Works John Brown, Assistant General Manager
204-783-7001
Standard Manufacturing Services Rolf Gretschmann, President
204-956-6300
Stevenson Aviation Technical Training Centre Dennis Doersam, Manager
204-428-6308
Tarry & Associates Ltd. Bob (R.J.) Tarry, President 204-895-9435
Westavia Technologies Ltd Matt W.N. Woloshyn, President/Flight Test
Engineer 204-487-9612
West-Can Inspection Ltd Larry Russell, Vice-President 204-668-7327
Western Canada Testing Inc. Ryan Schott, General Manager 204-857-4811
Western Propeller Company Ltd. Dan Rogers, Manager 204-831-8368

Carl R. Osterwald

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to
In article <55779cdb.03021...@posting.google.com> Duck Bill
Platypus, duckbille...@hotmail.com writes:

>colin_powell...@yahoo.co.uk (Colin Powell Whitepoodle) wrote
>in message news:<a9f910cd.03021...@posting.google.com>...

[huge kooksnip]

>> Fortunately the Magnetron is not a small device. Informed sources
>> indicate a portable Magnetron powerful enough to harm a large group of
>> demonstrators, for example, would require space equal to a small
>> truck.
>
>
>Thank you Colin for the news on Pine Gap Australia, HAARP Alaska, and
>the Russian microwave beam weapon that is similar. Here are some
>interesting facts on Manitoba Canada. Are there deep throat ties?

Replying to yourself, even with a sockpuppet, is a sure sign of kookness.

-=-=-=-=-

"My investigations show that the most important woman in

steve rogers

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Feb 19, 2003, 12:05:42 AM2/19/03
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Carl R. Osterwald <i...@mac.com> wrote in message news:<v55drq1...@corp.supernews.com>...

silly AND sick.....

Rabbi Rocky MK Ultra

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Feb 19, 2003, 8:46:41 PM2/19/03
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Do you think it was a HAARP graser or maser that downed the Columbia?
Will Grand Warlock [GW] Bush use this microwave weapon of mass
destruction on the Iraqis during the first new moon of March [nearing
the 2nd?].

I have a friend that has been victimized by the remote viewing dept.
of the NSA and she has severe headaches and her dreams are implanted
with outside imagery, not from her own subconscious. Believe me, this
ELF wave stuff and microwave brain control is very real.

Rocky


GRASERS

Grasers based on particle accelerators and on lasers
Authors: E.G.Bessonov (P.N.Lebedev Physical Institute AS, Moscow,
Russia)
Comments: 17 pages, LaTeX, Presented to ICFA Workshop QABP98,
Monterey, 4-9 Jan. 1998
Subj-class: Classical Physics

Grasers based on a stimulated emission of gravitational radiation by
relativistic charged particle beams in external fields and on a
conversion of laser radiation into gravitational one in the magnetic
fields as well as detectors are discussed. A scheme of the
gravitational radiation not accompanied by an useless inaccessible by
a value average power of the electromagnetic radiation and a
stimulation of the conversion of gravitons into photons in
gravitational detectors by an open resonator are considered.

Two comets of war are in perihelion now, one approaching the sun's
> shores, the other just barely leaving the sun's pull, and they will
> pass each other [moving in opposite directions] around March 2-4,
> 2003, in between the orbit of Mercury and the Sun close to the star
> Fomalhaut [one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse] the same day

> that intelligence agencies predict GW Bush will trigger a nuclear or
> Microwave beam global war by being the warmongering aggressor in Iraq.


> Comet 2002/ X5 (Kudo-Fujikawa) and V1 [NEAT] ... this comet will be
> making a very, very close approach to the Sun at perihelion, less than
> 0.1 AU. Look up their orbits on Google!
>
> Is this a portent of a growing tension between the two top producers
> of microwave beam warfare, the HAARP of the DoD, and the

> Rosoboronexport (aka Rosvoorouzhenie) of Russia?
>

> Or are Bush and Putin members of the same secret society and actually


> co-partners in this strategy?
>
> Who are they planning to use it against?
>
> Rosoboronexport [formerly know as Rosvoorouzhenie] -- Russian

> Calibration of Equipment to Measure High-power Pulse Electromagnetic

Thank you Natasha for the news on Pine Gap Australia, HAARP Alaska,


and the Russian microwave beam weapon that is similar. Here are some
interesting facts on Manitoba Canada. Are there deep throat ties?

gamma-ray lasers, or grasers

and

masers... all about HAARP and the Columbia Space
Shuttle!!

Manitoba's Aerospace Industry


MAGELLAN AEROSPACE CORPORATION &#150; MANITOBA CANADA -- BRISTOL

CyberChrist

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Feb 20, 2003, 11:59:56 AM2/20/03
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Rabbi Rocky MK Ultra wrote:

> I have a friend that has been victimized by the remote viewing dept.
> of the NSA and she has severe headaches and her dreams are implanted
> with outside imagery, not from her own subconscious. Believe me, this
> ELF wave stuff and microwave brain control is very real.

Remote viewing does none of that. That is serious bullshit and I would
say that your friend is schizophrenic and delusional.


>
> Rocky

--
CyberChrist
http://www.hackerjournal.com/prophecy/index.html
"Sapere Aude"

paghat

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Feb 20, 2003, 11:20:39 AM2/20/03
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In article <3E550990...@someplacesafe.org>, CyberChrist
<c...@someplacesafe.org> wrote:

> Rabbi Rocky MK Ultra wrote:
>
> > I have a friend that has been victimized by the remote viewing dept.
> > of the NSA and she has severe headaches and her dreams are implanted
> > with outside imagery, not from her own subconscious. Believe me, this
> > ELF wave stuff and microwave brain control is very real.
>
> Remote viewing does none of that. That is serious bullshit and I would
> say that your friend is schizophrenic and delusional.

That's not very helpful. You could've posted instructions for how to make
a tinfoil hat.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/

Ralph Nesbitt

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"paghat" <pag...@BADSPAMnetscape.net> wrote in message
news:paghat-2002...@soggy72.drizzle.com...

> In article <3E550990...@someplacesafe.org>, CyberChrist
> <c...@someplacesafe.org> wrote:
>
> > Rabbi Rocky MK Ultra wrote:
> >
> > > I have a friend that has been victimized by the remote viewing dept.
> > > of the NSA and she has severe headaches and her dreams are implanted
> > > with outside imagery, not from her own subconscious. Believe me, this
> > > ELF wave stuff and microwave brain control is very real.
> >
> > Remote viewing does none of that. That is serious bullshit and I would
> > say that your friend is schizophrenic and delusional.
>
> That's not very helpful. You could've posted instructions for how to make
> a tinfoil hat.
>
See: http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html
> -paghat the ratgirl
>
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type


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