You do not make any sense Vera. Saying your life didn't sound that bad
has nothing to do with jealousy or love of money, neither is it
slander. LOL!
>
>
>
> >>> No, he
> >>> never repented,
>
> >>> or he would have tried to make amends,
>
> >> Yes he has. I've seen the apologies with my own little peepers.
>
> >>> and not continue
> >>> with his libel right after his dozens of "apologies".
>
> >> Look at what you have done! I don't see you issuing any apologies
> >> or ceasing your campaigns of harassment. What I have seen is you
> >> actually stepping up the BS, NOT DOWN!!!! I'll gladly provide samples
> >> of it if you believe this is in error....
>
> > Neither she or Kelly can quit. They feel they don't have to forgive;
> > even though they profess belief in Messiah, they ignore that he said
> > if we don't forgive others, God will not forgive us.
>
> He spoke of brothers or sisters, not hereticks, blasphemers, unrepentant
> sinners or Saint bashers.
Baloney. Christ said to forgive everyone, or you will not be forgiven.
It is you who excludes everyone you want from that, trying to make up
your own rules and manipulate God It's your soul...
Mar 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought
against ANY: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you
your trespasses.
Mat 6:14 For if ye forgive MEN their trespasses, your heavenly Father
will also forgive you:
Mat 6:15 But if ye forgive NOT MEN their trespasses, neither will
your Father forgive your trespasses.
Don't you say the Lord's prayer?
That followed the Lord's prayer which also addresses forgiving our
debtors:
Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in
heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in
heaven.
Mat 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
Mat 6:12 ***And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.***
Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever.
Amen.
>
>
>
> >>> There is no hint
> >>> to believe he could ever be serious with that, and neither is there
> >>> hope that I could ever trust you again. That is the most evil thing
> >>> one can do - destroy the trust of people. I have no understanding
> >>> for this. What do you think to gain? Love? Friendship? Trust? Fear?
> >>> What? Do you ever think? I did not betray you - that was your wife,
> >>> probably, but not me. I have never betrayed a man. And believe me,
> >>> I do have enough private problems that I cannot and will not deal
> >>> with such a trash from you. I am very disappointed with you,
> >>> though, and you are one of those who make usenet unattractive for
> >>> most people, while there could have been such a great chance to
> >>> unite people. But all you can do is attack, because
> >>> you - as much as Matt - are so INTOLERANT that you just come here to
> >>> bash the Christians. Why do you think this could be good? If you
> >>> fear God's Word so much, do not read it. Nobody forces you.
>
> >> Well you tell me Einstein, what do you think that hopping from
> >> atheism to religion after religion is all about, if it isn't a
> >> search for GOD and truth, huh ?
>
> >> I know you're not an idiot now..you're being deliberately contrary
> >> and hard to deal with. This comes of selfishness...\
>
> > Don't forget; God didn't set up any of us (Kelly, Fred, Chung,
> > Diana, , Vera, Matt, Snow, Richard, randy, Terry, Emma, Vince, me,
> > etc., etc.) to act as the judge of others;
>
> That is wrong.
You're wrong. Did Paul say so? Yes, I think he did, twisting what was
said in the book of Revelaton, which was talking about at Judgment
Day, NOT now while we live in the flesh.
Your false apostle is leading you to disobey the Messiah, as he said:
Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with
what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote
out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy
brother's eye.
>
> > that includes you,
>
> That is true.
And includes you; the Messiah said NO ONE is to judge another. But you
don't care what the Messiah said; only what your idol the false
apostle Paul said matters to you, right?
Snip rest of Vera's ignorant goading.
You are a strange woman, Vera. Saying your life didn't sound so bad is
not indicative of either jealousy or love of money. Lol! Nor is it
indicative of slander.
>
>
>
> >>> No, he
> >>> never repented,
>
> >>> or he would have tried to make amends,
>
> >> Yes he has. I've seen the apologies with my own little peepers.
>
> >>> and not continue
> >>> with his libel right after his dozens of "apologies".
>
> >> Look at what you have done! I don't see you issuing any apologies
> >> or ceasing your campaigns of harassment. What I have seen is you
> >> actually stepping up the BS, NOT DOWN!!!! I'll gladly provide samples
> >> of it if you believe this is in error....
>
> > Neither she or Kelly can quit. They feel they don't have to forgive;
> > even though they profess belief in Messiah, they ignore that he said
> > if we don't forgive others, God will not forgive us.
>
> He spoke of brothers or sisters, not hereticks, blasphemers, unrepentant
> sinners or Saint bashers.
The following says nothing about believers versus non-believers. You
are just always looking for an out, a way to sin, a way to disobey the
Messiah.
Mat 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father
will also forgive you:
Mat 6:15 But if ye forgive not MEN their trespasses, neither will
your Father forgive your trespasses.
Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in
heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in
heaven.
Mat 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever.
Amen.
>
> > Don't forget; God didn't set up any of us (Kelly, Fred, Chung,
> > Diana, , Vera, Matt, Snow, Richard, randy, Terry, Emma, Vince, me,
> > etc., etc.) to act as the judge of others;
>
> That is wrong.
Did Paul tell you that? The Messiah said to not judge:
Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with
what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote
out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy
brother's eye.
Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye
your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and
turn again and rend you.
>
> > that includes you,
>
> That is true.
And it surely includes you who issues judgments daily about who you
want to believe has 'blasphemed the Holy Spirit' and is condemned. You
condemn yourself with your own words, or as Paul puts it, being
condemned of yourself.
>
> > whether
> > you 'believe' in God or not.
>
> That is wrong.
You're wrong. Neither believers or non-believers are to judge others.
>
> > Instead, we are each told to work on
> > ourselves and our own behavior. I guess we all forget that at times.
>
> You do, sure.
>
> > Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
> > Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with
> > what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Read it slowly.
You read it Vera; your constant condemnation of others will condemn
yourself.
> I
> am Paul's little sister, you see?
I believe that. And I am a member of Christ's family. Too bad you're
just of the family of Paul.
>
> > Let me pull out the mote
> > out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
> > Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye;
> > and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy
> > brother's eye.
>
> Either quote and accept the whole of God's Word, or it does not mean a
> thing at all when YOU quote it. Even the demons know of Jesus Christ and
> of the Bible and can quote from it.
That's right Vera, and like you, they still don't obey the Messiah's
words.
>
> Thanks for proving that you do not even know what Jesus said. You are
> even vain enough to quote Him and abuse Him for your lies. Sad.
Projection. It is you who ignores what Christ says.
I've been a believer since I was a young child. You said you just
became a Christian 10 years ago after first being into witchcraft, and
only read the Bible at the first with the intention to refute it. Some
people, like yourself, mistakenly think they see in the Scriptures a
way to elevate themselves and condemn others, likely the very same
reasons you'd been a witch. Other people, like myself, are Christians
because they have always loved Christ since their first memories as a
child.