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Gem

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Feb 21, 2002, 5:58:20 PM2/21/02
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Well, here are some results from my life drawing classes for those who were
interested.

http://www.softshoe-graphics.com/lifedraw/life.html

Be advised that the models are au natural so some naughty bits may be in
evidence. :)

The first page has three minute, ten minute, and one hour poses and the second
page has two one hour poses.

Used charcoal, conte colored pencils, and oil pastels. I enjoyed working with
all three of these [*love* the conte pencils], but really dislike plain pencil.
Next time, I'll try pen and ink with watercolor wash.

Thanks for looking. :)

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Dan

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Feb 21, 2002, 6:09:09 PM2/21/02
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Wow. Pretty darn nice. I'm inspired.

Your top drawing on the 2nd page turned out well. You are kicking butt!

Dan
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Ben Woodward

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Feb 21, 2002, 6:11:16 PM2/21/02
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Lucky duck. When I was in college, all we had were fat chicks and hairy
guys.

I've actually been thinking of signing back up for a class at the local art
college. Figure Drawing was actually one of my favorite foundations courses.
Maybe I'll check that schedule out again... I miss drawing (computers are so
stifling).

Thanks for sharing, Gem. Maybe if I *do* get my butt back in the studio,
I'll post some of mine as well...

Ben

Quantum

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Feb 21, 2002, 6:28:12 PM2/21/02
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very good! Gotta buy some charcoal soon. It's been quite some time since I
tried it.

Quantum

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chero

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Feb 21, 2002, 7:25:06 PM2/21/02
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Ditto....Blue & Grey......wonderful.
Gem the Butt Kicker!!

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Oz Trad

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Feb 21, 2002, 9:29:55 PM2/21/02
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"Dan" <D...@FreelanceWorkshops.com> wrote:

> Your top drawing on the 2nd page

Yes I love that one - you are missing your calling as an illustrator

O H D

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Feb 21, 2002, 9:57:19 PM2/21/02
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Great stuff Gem. I *love* the second page!

Now I've gotta get some darker paper for my next class...

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Glenn

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> Lucky duck. When I was in college, all we had were fat chicks and hairy
> guys........etc.

I remember in my Drawing II class, this guy (the male model) would just get
up & walk around butt-ass necked chattin' with all the chicks & commenting
on everyones work. It was a trip.

Glenn


Glenn

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Feb 21, 2002, 10:53:22 PM2/21/02
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> Well, here are some results from my life drawing classes for those who
were
> interested.
.....etc.


Very nice. I like the first page. I'm kind of a black and white guy myself.

Glenn


Terry Griffin

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Feb 21, 2002, 11:39:01 PM2/21/02
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You too? (Actually we did have this one perky little college girl. Anyhow...)

Page two is very nice, Gemma. Good stuff.

grif


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> Lucky duck. When I was in college, all we had were fat chicks and hairy

> guys.y

Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 2:33:31 AM2/22/02
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chero:

>Ditto....Blue & Grey......wonderful.
>Gem the Butt Kicker!!

heehee! thanks chero! :)

where have you been? haven't heard from you in a while.

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Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 2:38:54 AM2/22/02
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Dan:

>Wow. Pretty darn nice. I'm inspired.
>
>Your top drawing on the 2nd page turned out well. You are kicking butt!

Thanks, Dan. :) I really like this class.
I liked how that one turned out, too, especially on the gray paper. I did one
with the blues and grays on white paper and it came out much more delicate.

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Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 2:45:15 AM2/22/02
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Oz:

>Yes I love that one - you are missing your calling as an illustrator

Thank you, Oz, sweety. :)

Illustrator? hmmmmm, i dunno.... that's one tough job. Be great to just do the
pictures though, eh Brian? <grin>

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Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 2:59:06 AM2/22/02
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Ben:
>Lucky duck.

Yes, we have great models, really nice people with beautiful body lines.

>Maybe I'll check that schedule out again... I miss drawing (computers are so
>stifling).

Ben, I like the way you always write and say to people to step away from their
computers. You're right. :)

You should do it. If you can't manage a class, you could draw some people in
the park or mall [ala R Crumb] or even copy from some photos. I have been able
to get some friends lined up to pose for me, too. They seem quite flattered at
the request. :)

>Maybe if I *do* get my butt back in the studio,
>I'll post some of mine as well...

That would be great! What do you like to draw with?

Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 3:01:35 AM2/22/02
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Terry:

>Page two is very nice, Gemma. Good stuff.

Hey, thanks Terry!
I'm really enjoying this class.

How's the new Mac? :)

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Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 3:06:33 AM2/22/02
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Quantum:

>very good! Gotta buy some charcoal soon. It's been quite some time since I
>tried it.

Thanks, Quantum.
Hey, when you do, could post your results? I like to see other's techniques.
You like charcoal, too, huh. You might want to try those conte pencils. [I just
gotta have color]

Thanks for taking a look.
:)
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Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 3:09:12 AM2/22/02
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Dave:

>Great stuff Gem. I *love* the second page!

Thanks, Dave. Those were the latest, or can't you tell, heh. :)

>Now I've gotta get some darker paper for my next class...

Yes, you have to try that. I really like the colored conte pencils. I did one
with the blues and grays on plain white paper and it wasn't as dramatic as it
seemed to be against the gray paper. Much more delicate looking. I bought some
black paper, as well, and want to try some of the prismacolor metallic pencils
on that.

Don't forget to post yours, ok.

Thanks for looking, Dave. :)

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Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 3:12:50 AM2/22/02
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Glenn:

>Very nice. I like the first page. I'm kind of a black and white guy myself.
>

Thanks, Glenn. :)

Yes, I like the b/w too but I *love* color. Do you like to do this kind of
drawing? I bet you're a pen and ink kinda guy, yes? :)

Thanks for taking a look and, hey, good luck with your second interview.
:)
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Giuseppe Carmine De Blasio

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Feb 22, 2002, 4:05:51 AM2/22/02
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What, no frog people...?

:-)

Seriously, you're Gem, the Big-Time-Butt-Kicker! I love your
work...specially the "life02.jpg"...I can just see the very life-like
expression on the model's face...lovely!

XOXO,

Pepe
Milano, Italy


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Quantum

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Feb 22, 2002, 8:44:50 AM2/22/02
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Will do, but charcoal is kinda hard to get here. That is, as long as you
don't want to use the barbecue-kind :)

Quantum

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O H D

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Feb 22, 2002, 10:11:02 AM2/22/02
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Sure thing. I'm out of town for a week but as soon as I get back I'll try
some new things and post the results.

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cpg

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Feb 22, 2002, 12:43:00 PM2/22/02
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>Your top drawing on the 2nd page turned out well. You are kicking butt!

I agree with Dan. I like that one very much, Gem. Looks like you are
having a great time with this. Good for you.

cpg

Dimitri

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Feb 22, 2002, 1:17:44 PM2/22/02
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Excellent work Gem.


Which ones do you like?

Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 1:40:15 PM2/22/02
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Pepi ;)

>I love your
>work...specially the "life02.jpg"...I can just see the very life-like
>expression on the model's face...lovely!

Thank you. She had such a pretty expression with that pose. I'm glad that came
through.

xoxoxox
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Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 1:43:56 PM2/22/02
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cpg:

>Looks like you are
>having a great time with this. Good for you.

Thanks, cpg, for having a look. Yes, I really love this class. Trying the
different techniques and colors has been quite a bit of fun and it's
interesting to see what works and what doesn't.

Still waiting for those zoo pics. And maybe a few new ones of Payton. :)

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cpg

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Feb 22, 2002, 1:51:27 PM2/22/02
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>Still waiting for those zoo pics. And maybe a few new ones of Payton. :)

Hey now! Are you trying to butter me up? Don't make me whip out the
Payton portfolio ;-)

cpg

Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 1:58:28 PM2/22/02
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D:
>Excellent work Gem.

Thank you, Craig. :)

>Which ones do you like?

From the first page I like the standing pose of the man from the rear angle. I
was working on proportion there and thought I had the arm too long. I also like
to detail the hands and feet. I also liked how the side-view sitting pose of
the women came out.

I liked very much how the blue/gray pose of her turned out on the gray paper. I
have another with those colors on white that conveys a very different feel,
very delicate, like chiffon. The orange and brown toned conte pencils produced
a few nice studies in particular areas such as torso front and side angle and
hands and feet.

I have some black paper to try with metallic pencils next time for more drama.
:)

I also have some [not scaned] done with oil pastels that came out nicely, I
thought.

When I view my book from the beginning of the class up to now, I can see the
progression. That's valuable in that it shows me how I've worked in different
stroking techniques and shading patterns to achieve different effects, depth,
and moods.

What else is interesting is that after several of these drawings, your brain
remembers the stroke for the thigh or forearm and you can almost stroke it
automatically. Shading for areas like the inside of the elbow and the collar
bones also seem to insinuate themselves into memory. Then it is a matter of
applying different colors to convey the depth.

I have a long way to go and my instructor has suggested I take the advanced
class. I would like to do that, I think.

Thank you for viewing and your interest in my own favorites. :) You know I
would enjoy and appreciate any comments, suggestions, tips you might have in
this area.

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Gem

Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 2:01:16 PM2/22/02
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Quantum:

>Will do, but charcoal is kinda hard to get here. That is, as long as you
>don't want to use the barbecue-kind :)

oh, now that's a shame! Where do you live?

I bet you could use that kind.....

You could use eyeliner or eyebrow pencil in a pinch. lol
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Gem

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Feb 22, 2002, 2:03:38 PM2/22/02
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cpg:

>Hey now! Are you trying to butter me up? Don't make me whip out the
>Payton portfolio ;-)
>

hey I know a proud Dad when I see one!
Whip away!

LOL!

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Gem

Phisch

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Feb 22, 2002, 4:23:20 PM2/22/02
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Nice work, Gem! Looks like you enjoy this sort of illustration. The color is
done very nicely, too. Makes me want to get the conte out of the garage.

Curious...anyone here take any life sculpting classes?

Phisch.

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O H D

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Never heard of any life sculpting classes but it's something I'd love to
try. I really enjoyed sculpting classes.

Have you ever done any Phisch?

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Carol Ott

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Feb 22, 2002, 8:59:54 PM2/22/02
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Ummm....where are the naughty bits on the guy? ;-)

(Sorry...Mitch just left this morning to go on a 8-week tour....)

Carol
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Mike Minovski

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Feb 22, 2002, 9:20:23 PM2/22/02
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There's an excellent student! ;))

Top one on p.2 is great, indeed - has atmosphere, goes far beyond drawing
class stuff, IMHO.

Gem, you'll almost make me nostalgic about those old days when I took
courses in head drawing... um... 197something...


mike m.

Gem

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Feb 23, 2002, 2:06:50 AM2/23/02
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P:

>Nice work, Gem! Looks like you enjoy this sort of illustration. The color is
>done very nicely, too. Makes me want to get the conte out of the garage.

Thanks, Phisch. :)
Yes, I do like this class very much.

In the garage??!! Go get 'em.
ya conte draw with them out there!
[badada boom] :)

>Curious...anyone here take any life sculpting classes?

No, I haven't. It's sculpting live models? Sounds really great. Have you tried
it?

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Gem

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Feb 23, 2002, 2:08:02 AM2/23/02
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Carol:

>Ummm....where are the naughty bits on the guy? ;-)

lol! I guess I didn't scan those in.

>(Sorry...Mitch just left this morning to go on a 8-week tour....)

maybe I'd better email them to you......

;)
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Gem

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Feb 23, 2002, 2:14:45 AM2/23/02
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Mike:

>There's an excellent student! ;))

Thank you, Professor! :)
Those are some very nice words, sladour.

Did you enjoy head drawing in school? What was your preferred medium?
Do you still have some of the work?
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Mike M:

Mike Minovski

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>
> Did you enjoy head drawing in school? What was your preferred medium?

It wasn't at school - I have no formal art training. I took some courses
preparing for the admission exams in the National Fine Arts Academy (at that
time, it was the only place where you could study design in my country).
Head drawing was phase 1 of the exam, phase 2 was design. Head sculpting
(copying ancient statues) was phase 3, so I did a bit of that, too -
obviously not enough because that's where I screwed up :) So I ended up
studying engineering in the Technical University of my city.

Years later, when I took my postgraduate study in industrial design, our
drawing classes were certainly not the accent of the program and we didn't
go beyond object drawing/sculpting... so I must be pretty rusty at live
model drawing by now...


> Do you still have some of the work?
> --

I guess so... somewhere in the basement... :)


mike m.


Carol Ott

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Feb 23, 2002, 9:39:45 AM2/23/02
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I wonder if the whole guy would fit through the fax......?

Carol
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Wizard of Draws

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Gem wrote:
>
> Well, here are some results from my life drawing classes for those who were
> interested.
>
> http://www.softshoe-graphics.com/lifedraw/life.html
>
> Be advised that the models are au natural so some naughty bits may be in
> evidence. :)
>
> The first page has three minute, ten minute, and one hour poses and the second
> page has two one hour poses.
>
> Used charcoal, conte colored pencils, and oil pastels. I enjoyed working with
> all three of these [*love* the conte pencils], but really dislike plain pencil.
> Next time, I'll try pen and ink with watercolor wash.
>
> Thanks for looking. :)
>
> --
> Gem
Gem,

Very nicely done.
I would suggest concentrating on drawing the negative space more. That's
one of the things that elevated my illustrations from one plateau to the
next.
--
Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino

"Cartoons with a Touch of Magic"
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Gem

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Feb 23, 2002, 12:53:48 PM2/23/02
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Jeff:

>Very nicely done.
>I would suggest concentrating on drawing the negative space more. That's
>one of the things that elevated my illustrations from one plateau to the
>next.

Thanks, Jeff. I was remembering what you said about hands and feet. I did some
studies on just those parts in some of the poses. [those aren't scanned in]

If you would, could you please give some more detail about negative space.
Ideas, suggestions, techniques?

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Gem

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Feb 23, 2002, 12:54:32 PM2/23/02
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Carol:

>I wonder if the whole guy would fit through the fax......?

I'm thinking _something_ might jam it up.....

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Carol Ott

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Feb 23, 2002, 1:45:30 PM2/23/02
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LOL! Great minds must really think alike.....

Carol
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Giuseppe Carmine De Blasio

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Feb 23, 2002, 3:12:17 PM2/23/02
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I just got this mental image...and I don't like it! Getting jammed in a fax
machine...OUCH!

:-)

Pepe
Milano, Italy

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Gem

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>I just got this mental image...and I don't like it! Getting jammed in a fax
>machine...OUCH!
>
>:-)

better a fax than a paper shredder....


:0

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Giuseppe Carmine De Blasio

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Feb 23, 2002, 3:39:54 PM2/23/02
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You just couldn't let it go, eh Gem...? This night I'm gonna have
nightmares...I can feel'em coming...OUCH!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

:-)

Pepe
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Gem

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Feb 23, 2002, 4:33:40 PM2/23/02
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Pepi:

>You just couldn't let it go, eh

oh, that.
it was just a vicious rumor......

i swear....


lol

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Gem

Wizard of Draws

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Feb 23, 2002, 7:42:07 PM2/23/02
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Concentrate on drawing the spaces that *isn't* the form of the object or
person you are drawing.
For example, a model with her hands on her hips.

Instead of drawing the arms, draw the interior triangular shape that the
torso, upper arm and forearm define. Discard the figure in your head and
draw the 'hole' that's left.
It helps your mind to establish a relationship between the figure and
the space it occupies.
Look at this colored pencil drawing from a life drawing class:
http://www.wizardofdraws.com/lady1.html
For the most part, the hand and arm is defined by the negative space of
the body behind them.

Gem

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Feb 24, 2002, 12:38:46 AM2/24/02
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Jeff:

>Concentrate on drawing the spaces that *isn't* the form of the object or
>person you are drawing.

Yes, I think I see what you mean! Like turning a picture you want to draw
upside down to get a grasp of the shades and tones.

>It helps your mind to establish a relationship between the figure and
>the space it occupies.

>http://www.wizardofdraws.com/lady1.html

I really like this one.
I understand what you mean. I'm going to try this next class.

Thank you very much, Jeff.

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Oz Trad

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gemp...@aol.comatoast (Gem) wrote:

> I really like this one.
> I understand what you mean. I'm going to try this next class.


don't get too good now Gem we won't be able to talk to you


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