I am a web designer who occasionally needs the assistance of an
experienced graphic design artist when it comes to creating graphics
for the web. I have a layout that I'm trying to complete that I could
use some help on - Please let me know if you meet the above
qualificiation and if so, I'd love to hear from you.
Thanks!
Beverly
a web designer that can't create his/her own graphics...?
Quite common actually. But a condition that does not stop the attempt.
And to whomever was flabbergasted by the fact that you aren't doing
your own graphics...web design becomes very large in scope with larger
sites, to the point sometimes where a project may involve a design team
of programmers, graphics designers, SEO consultants, project managers,
testers, all sorts of different people with different skill sets. When
you're doing a small site, you can usually where a lot of hats, but
with a larger site you'll find that a GREAT web developer may not
actually do any of the work themselves, but will actually organize the
project and see to its timely and proper execution.
I very much doubt bev is working on a large one.
Thank you for your (professional and courteous) response. You are
correct - I have the skill to create 90% of my web graphics but
occasionally, I need a skilled illustrator or vector artist to create
something beyond my skills. Something really detailed or maybe to help
me when I am overloaded and need someone to create a website layout for
me. I'm looking for a partner, of sorts, to call upon when needed.
Thanks,
Beverly
>Hello,
>
>Thank you for your (professional and courteous) response. You are
>correct - I have the skill to create 90% of my web graphics but
>occasionally, I need a skilled illustrator or vector artist to create
>something beyond my skills. Something really detailed or maybe to help
>me when I am overloaded and need someone to create a website layout for
>me. I'm looking for a partner, of sorts, to call upon when needed.
If someone can already create high end graphic layouts...what would
they need you for? No offense or anything, but if I was ever looking
for a partner I would want them to be at least as skilled as I am.
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I think you missed the boat on this one, Hatter. She may be less skilled
graphically, and more skilled at web development. Also, some people want
to make the occassional extra few bucks.
then don't call yourself a web designer.
you're either one or the other...not both (don't kid yourself).
| then don't call yourself a web designer.
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| you're either one or the other...not both (don't kid yourself).
Why should the two be mutually exclusive?
To me you have three main areas, web programming, web design and web
development. Web programming is just raw coding, usually centered
around databases and the manipulation and organization of such data.
Web design is basically being a graphic artist with the knowledge and
skill to implement graphics in such a way that you achieve the maximum
level of compression whilst retaining the maximum level of quality.
Usually through the use of split form image encoding techniques. And
finally a web developer is someone who develops the navigation,
structure and usability of the site.
The OP said the following:
"I am a web designer who occasionally needs the assistance of an
experienced graphic design artist "
Which makes no sense since you simply could not BE a web designer if
you WEREN'T a graphic artist to begin with.
Some people, like myself, have mastery of all three areas, in which
case I suppose you could call us Web DDPs (design, development,
programming)...or maybe just Web Experts...whatever you like.
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>
> Some people, like myself, have mastery of all three areas,....
DREAM ON!
>
> Some people, like myself, have mastery of all three areas,....
Jack of all trades ... master of none?
> The OP said the following:
> "I am a web designer who occasionally needs the assistance of an
> experienced graphic design artist "
>
> Which makes no sense since you simply could not BE a web designer if
> you WEREN'T a graphic artist to begin with.
I think a lot of people confuse "web designer" and "web developer."
But, I always thought if you were a *designer*, even a web designer,
you'd be a *graphic* designer first. Meaning, you were taught first and
foremost to design, then to implement for the web.
>
> Some people, like myself, have mastery of all three areas, in which
> case I suppose you could call us Web DDPs (design, development,
> programming)...or maybe just Web Experts...whatever you like.
Now, you're just bragging. I still can't get my head wrapped around web
design. To me, graphic design is the basic, while "web" design is kind
of like an upgrade in skills.
>
> --
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Connie
> Now, you're just bragging. I still can't get my head wrapped around web
> design. To me, graphic design is the basic, while "web" design is kind
> of like an upgrade in skills.
> >
> > --
upgrade?...no. never saw it like that. it's just another area of design.
infact i've never liked the term web designer. nobody uses the term
print designer.
It is possible to know everything about a subject and still suck at it.
--
Aaron
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I agree with you woods. I think there are big differences between types
of design. One could be a great "Graphic" or "Print" designer but not
that strong for "Web" design. It's kind of like comparing newspaper
print and a forms house, both are "printing" but that's just about were
the comparisons end. IMHO
Yeah right, screw you "Hatter".
cub brave
>Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> > Some people, like myself, have mastery of all three areas, in which
> >
>
>It is possible to know everything about a subject and still suck at it.
Why, are you hoping to improve upon your current nonexistent
knowledge?
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Onideus Mad Hatter
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>DREAM ON!
SCREAM ON!
Yeah, that's right, covet it, bitch.
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Onideus Mad Hatter
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Is that how you're describing yourself these days?
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Onideus Mad Hatter
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That's weak, "Hatter".
Piss off, punk.
cub brave
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:11:10 -0400, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >> Some people, like myself, have mastery of all three areas,....
> >
> >Jack of all trades ... master of none?
>
> Is that how you're describing yourself these days?
>
No, the actual description is 'successfully enough to be early retired ~
twenty years back'. So in the real world I'm playing with things I've never
done before and won't know if I can until I either fail or succeed.
Basically my plan is to live forever or die in the enjoyment of the effort.
Any idea how long it will be until you can join the club?