Are We "Different"?
Carol Ott
made you decide on this career instead of law, or journalism -- a
traditional career path? What was your defining moment when you felt that
spark -- when you knew that there was no other career for you?
--Carol
http://home.earthlink.net/~csott
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Technor
no, I don't agree with that. They are different in a way that there
creativity has to be visual unlike other areas of work like accounting etc..
which requires creativity to be on paper in someone's own ways . Creativity is
part of all careers except physical labour. Every area which requires thought
processes is creative. Are you meaning visual creativity?
Hari.
Drew
> made you decide on this career instead of law, or journalism -- a
> traditional career path?
I was flunking Organic Chemistry and Calculus.
drew
Stan Wojda
annual art show. It was just a hobby of mine but for a ninth grader I was
pretty proud of a painting of swans I had done. I didn't know that this was a
prestigious contest open to professionals and the Hudson Musuem was the
premier showcase for realistic painting in the country. Anyway I got a notice
in the mail that I won first place in the contest for wildlife painting. My
mother took me to the coctail party we had been invited to. When I got there
they saw I was just a kid and took me an my mother to the back. They said
they couldn't give me the prize because of my age but they did give my mother
a check for a hundred dollars. (big money to us). The bastards kept the
painting. I swore that I would show them some day and decided I'd be an
artist. After that there was no turning back.
Carol Ott
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Stan Wojda
This was over 40 years ago.
Carol Ott
it was now worth thousands of dollars?
--Carol
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Mike C.
Stan Wojda wrote:
>
> The bastards kept the
> painting.
Was it part of the contest rules that you were "selling" the
painting if it won?
What a major rip off!
You were ripped off for the painting, you were ripped off for the
public recognition, you were ripped off in the price that you
were paid for the painting.
Too bad you can't sue.
--
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Stan Wojda
served me well. That hundred dollars was important to my mother she was
raising me on a $60 a week salary. When I think of the sacrifices she
made for me to buy paint and canvas and brushes I always felt I had to
make myself good enough of an artist to justify her faith in me.
Gordon Moat
Graphic Design is usually low paying compared to many other careers. The
work, and the ability to create, had to be the main reward. Though that is
just my opinion.
I choose to do design and photography for a few reasons. The main reason is
that I have an idealistic idea that I can make the world a better place
through design. At some point I may succeed, but still, it is good
motivation.
Another reason is that my Oma (grandmother in German) was the only one in my
family that encouraged me to do art. She use to say that too many people just
care about money, and that she thought art and music would become less
common. She told me that since I had a creative gift, I should share it with
the world. She also told me that it would be very difficult, and that I would
be criticized. Also, I learned how to take photos from her teaching, using a
very old Leica, and an even older Rolleiflex.
So I do not know if we are really "different", but I have noticed that I am
more likely to like the company of people who are creative in some way. I
know many musicians, writers, engineers, and artists, and all are creative in
some way.
I am glad I took the chance to work as a designer, and as a photographer. I
am still struggling financially, but I think that will change soon. Maybe I
can sell some paintings . . .
Thanks for posting this question. I have thought about this on many
occasions.
Ciao!
Gordon Moat
Alliance Graphique Studio
<http://www.allgstudio.com>
TRDWNDS
old.
Drew
>
> make myself good enough of an artist to justify her faith in me.
There's that word "faith" again. An amazingly wonderful concept.
Drew
Tor de Vries
>> make myself good enough of an artist to justify her faith in me.
>
> There's that word "faith" again. An amazingly wonderful concept.
Faith is for weak, sentimental fools who have to prop themselves up with
intangible emotional relationships.
Errr, wait, that's me.
Tor de Vries
> Are people who go into creative careers different than other people? What
> made you decide on this career instead of law, or journalism -- a
> traditional career path? What was your defining moment when you felt that
> spark -- when you knew that there was no other career for you?
At first I was going to say "what do you mean by a 'traditional' career
path?" Many of my friends and family are in nontraditional careers:
teaching on many levels (toddler through college), carpenters, painters,
marketers, musicians, poets... oh wait, some of those are traditional. :-)
What made me pick graphic design? I never saw it coming. I grew up
assuming I would either become a musician or a computer programmer (or
technician). I had heavy proficiencies with both, and access to both
through academic affiliations (familial). I was reasonably good at "that
art stuff" but mostly ignored it. At some point, I was hit with three
realizations: (1) my computer experience had been slowly arcing toward
graphic design, to the point that I knew more about design software and
hardware than anyone I knew; (2) for me, programming had become as boring as
watching paint dry; and (3) I wasn't dedicated enough to music to pursue it
professionally. I don't think I realized these points simultaneously -- in
fact, it was sort of like Arthur Dent's "yellow" and "bulldozer" running
around in his head before he finally put the two together.
I can't put my finger on the date, but the process began in the late 1980's
and was finally carved in stone in the early 1990's. At this point the
story starts overlapping with matters of religion and faith, but it is
sufficient to say that graphic design is the career for me. No doubts,
period. It doesn't bother me that I could make more money in other fields.
That's irrelevant. They're not for me. This is.
tdv
Mike C.
Depends on what that "faith" is attached to.
Faith can be just as silly as any other emotional state.
":^) ®
gapworks brad
various types of media as I was a fairly introverted young man that came
alive through artistic measure.
Music, acting, writing, and ultimately graphics. While my style might not
suit everyone, hey that's the great thing about art. It is so personal to
some and simple "scribblings" to others.
I think I switched from music to art primarily because I could do it as loud
as I wanted at 3:30 in the morning :)
cheers
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Patrick Charpentier
Ott à cs...@earthlink.net a écrit le 02/05/01 10:37 :
I think I design so I can pass my rebel side into my work. I'm in fact a
truly timid person, and although I write well, I can have hard times
expressing my opinions.
I may be shutting up and design, but I think it soothes me. When in my
incubation egg, the creation time, I feel like I'm flying. No drug is as
rewarding as the creative process when you lose yourself in it.
I was drawn to the graphic arts milieu because I had a certain talent in
cartoon drawing. Then I did my diploma in desktop publishing. The title can
be quite confusing, as it can be mistaken in french with CAD (infographie,
opposed to Graphisme). I knew from the beginning of College that wasn't the
kind of stuff I wanted to do, but I kept on since I knew all that prepress
knowledge would be useful. To this day, it has proved to be right.
Then came my Graphic design years. God ic makes you open your eyes! I
stopped thinking as a simple creative CAD technician, and began to think as
a designer. Although I need an university degree to really be considered a
designer here, I manage to live by the Way of Design, a code of shapes and
colors.
I'll go out of school in about a week. I'll be ready for the world. Will it
be ready for me?
Patrick
DeZang
Blur the corporate brain, F*%k twice a day, be creative.
www3.sympatico.ca/zang
Madman
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Terry L. Griffin
>
> What was your defining moment when you felt that spark --
> when you knew that there was no other career for you?
A few years ago, when contemplating what I would do if, for some reason,
I could no longer work in this field. I seriously couldn't think of
anything. (Except music, of course...which is an option I turned down
long ago, ironically enough, for reasons of "practicality." *heh*)
grif
Carol Ott
advanced degree. You never know when the design thing will end.....which
brings up another interesting question: What would you do if you couldn't
work as a designer anymore?
--Carol
http://home.earthlink.net/~csott
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Kris Khaira
archaelogist, then a psychologist and also an aeronautical enginner, and
this was all because of interest. Then I always asked myself whether it'd
always be fun. I could become a lawyer like my dad, from whom a small
passion in law grew in me. Then 4 months ago, I made my first website. I
bought my firts copy of Photoshop. And hell, it was fun spending late nights
trying to figure out layers at first. Fun brought me into this field. Right
now, I design more web than graphics, while I'm studying computer science in
college.
Kris
-"Fun fun fUN!!
KITTY
Drew
> Faith can be just as silly as any other emotional state.
We already know your emotional state is 2 steps under silly.
Drew
Stan Wojda
my head. (been a rough week)
Dan Fournier
or a NHL goalie (if luck was really on my side) if being in web design
wasn't an option.
DF
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Mike C.
Drew wrote:
>
> We already know ...
You and your invisible friends again? When will you learn to
take your meds.?
Terry L. Griffin
(I've also thought about typography; but I'm nowhere NEAR the level of
my mentor, the man who taught it to me. There's no way I could TRY to
fill his shoes at the old school.)
It's funny, because teaching is something I've said I'd never do. But
since having had to train practically our entire design staff--in this
region, publication design is quite specialized--I've discovered I kinda
enjoy it. I dunno...maybe I'll try teaching a night class at the old
school, just to see how teaching likes ME.
grif
Carol Ott wrote:
>
> Well that I do know. It would be teaching -- that's why I worked for an
> advanced degree..
dimitri
"Mike C." wrote:
> Drew wrote:
> >
> > Stan Wojda wrote:
> > >
> > > make myself good enough of an artist to justify her faith in me.
> >
> > There's that word "faith" again. An amazingly wonderful concept.
>
> Depends on what that "faith" is attached to.
>
> Faith can be just as silly as any other emotional state.
Speaking from experience?
Mike C.
dimitri wrote:
> > Faith can be just as silly as any other emotional state.
>
> Speaking from experience?
I have experienced some very silly people that believe very silly things.
dimitri
"Mike C." wrote:
> dimitri wrote:
>
> > > Faith can be just as silly as any other emotional state.
> >
> > Speaking from experience?
>
> I have experienced some very silly people that believe very silly things.
You can't 'experience' anyone in a newsgroup Sherlock. You only know what
people choose to present, or did you forget?
So, *whatever* you believe is inconclusive, insubstantial and irrelevent.