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Murphenko

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Nov 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/26/00
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Hi,
Thanks for your suggestions about books on design for newbies that we asked
about, but I thought our question will need more of an explanation and that
involves an introduction.

I guess our case is a bit on the other side of the spectrum. Basically we
are complete newbies in web design, but we do have some background in art.
Michael is a fine arts student, graduating this year - so he has some 5
years of art history, art theory and art philosophy etc behind him. Also he
studied some film, literature... (no wonder takes so long to get this
degree). I have a degree in molecular biology and have been studying for
masters in international law for 1.5 years. We are both nuts on art and
literature. We are also married and work together. We did do some print
design - book covers, booklets, flyers. But never really seriously studied
design. And we love internet.

So now we want to try ourselves in web design. Not that we expect to start
earning money straight away, more like we would first want to make a
professional page to show our other projects and mostly we really want to
explore this media.

We would love to hear suggestions on good books/ magazines on design of any
kind really. Something that inspired you. We would probably track down some
of them ourselves eventually, but isn't it a great benefit of the internet
that you can just come to the people who have already gone through this and
ask them to please help out with an advise?

Thanks,
Oksana Murphenko

> I agree. I check this and other groups for postings of hip and cool web
sites
> and just over the top design. I also have my nose in Communication Arts,
> Print, and other publications. I also think that of all the classes I took
in
> college, the art history classes have benefited me the most. I think it's
> important to reference both great and minor art movements in one's work-
not
> steal or copy, but use it as a touchstone to create something new. My
biggest
> complaint with interns in the studio, and even entry level production and
> design people is that they no sense of critical thought. I have an
assistant
> who has never seen a black and white movie, doesn't know anything about
> classical art, and will only listen to electronica, but is a hell of a mac
> operator. In short: feed your brain!
>
> ``gunnar`` wrote:
>
> > Instead of focasing on web design, I'd get books on "plain" design or
print
> > design as these will carry over to web design. A solid foundation is
the
> > key. I think many "web"designers are too concerned with NOT using or
> > learning the rules of classic design and think they are hip and cool.
The
> > only way to know if breaking the rules will work with a certian project
is
> > to know the rules.
> >
> > "Murphenko" <murp...@skynet.be> wrote in message
> > news:8vlej6$si0$1...@news1.skynet.be...
> > > Hello, I am new to this group and new to design in general.
> > > I have been looking through my library and through amazon .com for
some
> > good
> > > books on web design, has anyone any suggestions?
> > >
> > >
>

Sean echelbarger

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Nov 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/26/00
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Hi, I just read your post. I am a newbe, but I am currently enrolled in a
web-design class and my teacher seems pretty up to date. You should check out
“designing web graphics” by Linda Weinman, and “Designing Web Usability” by
Jacob Nielson.
Good Luck,
Sean.

Doug

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Nov 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/27/00
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This raises an interesting question - what is web design and where are its
boundaries? Do web designers do interfaces or look and feel? Should they
also become involved navigation, structure and information architecture.
What about information design - along the lines originally discussed by
Tufte? Or usability, human factor and more traditional software design
disciplines - Neilsen's field of 'expertise'? Or is it just traditional
graphic design and a good understanding of target markets?

We've debated this issue for a while at uni, and got no closer to an answer.
One things for sure - web 'design' makes corporate IDs seem a whole lot
simpler! Be interested in your thoughts...

' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
DougG

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Dimitri

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Nov 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/27/00
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Doug wrote:
>
> This raises an interesting question - what is web design and where are its
> boundaries?

What is interior design? Where are it's boundaries? - There are none, as
long as it has to do with orchestrating the design of interior spaces.
But we have no problem discriminating interior designers from the
wallpapering or painting professionals.
Why is that?


The multi-role issue is not particular to the web of course-but it's
always about money- your money, the business's money, the customer's
money.

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