Gulf War drinking game
Christopher Dow
(This was found on the bulletin board in the DNA Research and
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Persian Gulf Drinking Game
(New and Revised)
The order of channel hopping is NBC, ABC, CBS, and CNN. At each
commercial unless otherwise indicated by further rules, the channel is
changed.
If you hear someone on tv say 'scud' take a swig of beer and change the
channel except during scud attacks (see below).
If someone says 'patriot' everyone in the room must salute. The last
person to salute takes a shot.
If a scud attack is reported, everyone must hold their breath. The
first person to breathe must take a shot and go to a 'sealed room'.
That player must remain in the room until the 'all clear' is sounded.
If someone says 'somewhere in eastern Saudi Arabia' everyone must shout
"Dhahran". The last person takes a shot and must forego the next
'scud'. The same applies for shouting "Riyadh" upon hearing the
phrase 'a large airbase in central Saudi Arabia'. Anyone naming the
wrong city must also take a shot unless they shout "Almighty Allah"
before they are called on the error.
Whenever there is a military press briefing, and an official says
"Due to security reasons, I can't disclose that information.",
everyone has say "Quack, Quack", and the last person to do so has to
take a shot and rephrase the same question.
Whenever Wolf Blitzer appears on the screen, everyone must shout "woof
woof" and drink a wine spritzer.
A shot of Kahlua and coffee is kept on the table. Whenever the phrase
'ground war', 'ground assault' or 'ground attack' are used, the first
person to grab the shot gets it.
Every time Dan Rather says something stupid, all shout "Change the
channel". The last person to do so takes a shot and is forced to
watch CBS on another tv until the next 'scud'. This is a judgement
call, but the odds are that it won't be long before he says something
stupid anyway. Of course, if Sam Donaldson is on ABC change the
channel immediately but you probably already know that!
Ed Nilges
ever seen on this net. It describes how to drink while men, women,
and children are being killed in Israel and in Iraq. Note that it
is an example of the thinking of a significant segment of the prowar.
There are many good people convinced that the Gulf War is just and I
have no brief against them for this post.
Margot Kidder, in an act of latter-day heroism, has accused our
policy of being an example of nothing more than terminal testosterone
poisoning. The National Organization for Women has called upon the
nations to stop this insanity, as has Coretta Scott King.
If you don't like what they have to say, then take a look at what
confronts them in this post.
No doubt the Super Bowl tomorrow will see a massive increase in
crimes against women and children as cowardly and despicable men,
inflamed by nationalistic and chauvinistic passion as well as
alcohol, take out their anger and fear on targets of convenience.
A personal note. I have been in the past abusive of my ex-wife. It
is for this reason, perhaps, that I am especially sensitive to the
rage within me. I am convinced that the Persian Gulf War is the
product of a profoundly sexist culture's inability to deal with
complex and difficult issues through diplomacy. If any of you
punks out there don't like this, come and get me, motherfuckers.
Now for the posting. Try not to throw up.
John B. Gardner
>No doubt the Super Bowl tomorrow will see a massive increase in
>crimes against women and children as cowardly and despicable men,
>inflamed by nationalistic and chauvinistic passion as well as
>alcohol, take out their anger and fear on targets of convenience.
>
>A personal note. I have been in the past abusive of my ex-wife. It
>is for this reason, perhaps, that I am especially sensitive to the
>rage within me. I am convinced that the Persian Gulf War is the
>product of a profoundly sexist culture's inability to deal with
>complex and difficult issues through diplomacy. If any of you
>punks out there don't like this, come and get me, motherfuckers.
EGNILGES personal problems not withstanding...
This is the most incredible post I've ever read on the net. In a single
profound sweep of logic the Super Bowl, the Gulf Crisis, and the abuse of
women are all neatly tied together. The problem of course being "men."
Hmmmm, and on top of that he's calling me a "motherfucker." Thank god
our founding "fathers" saw fit to include the freedom of speech in our
nations most basic premises.
ahhh, on second thought - complaining about the Super Bowl? Hang him. :-)
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Hillel Gazit
>poisoning. The National Organization for Women has called upon the
>nations to stop this insanity, as has Coretta Scott King.
That's exactly what I would expecting NOW to do.
Attacking Iraq before it has nuclear capability, just because it
conquered another country is clearly unfair, by feminist standards...
I bet that if NOW's ladies had been in the UK in 1939 then they would
demonstrate against going to war just because Hitler conquered Poland...
>A personal note. I have been in the past abusive of my ex-wife.
But you decided to improve your ways and be abusive only toward men...
Dave Bakken
>ever seen on this net. It describes how to drink while men, women,
>and children are being killed in Israel and in Iraq. Note that it
>is an example of the thinking of a significant segment of the prowar.
I think the game is sick, but I don't think that there are many in
the prowar segment that think that way. Rather, I think you are just
trying to slander the anti-anti-Americans who call you to the carpet.
Just how did you reach this bold and sweeping conclusion, Sherlock?
I doubt that you know many prowar people well; they probably would
get really mad at all the patently anti-American and anti-conservative
drivel you post (like the sweeping generalization above; anti-Americanism
is not the same as anti-conservativism).
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You know I've heard about people like me, but I never made the connection...
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Wayne A. Christopher
between drinking, war, and sexism. I find the description of the
drinking game disturbing too, but for a different reason. It's not
the killing going on that the game is making light of, but rather the
media coverage of it. The networks are making a show of the war, and
showing exactly what the government wants them to show. The mass
media has abdicated its responsiblity to inform people in an impartial
way, and the drinking game is an expression of the cynicism people are
starting to feel.
Isn't it amazing that even though people know they are being
manipulated by the government and the media, they don't seem to care?
80% of the people in this country support Bush, even though it's
obvious that they aren't being given enough information to make an
intelligent decision. Why are there so many people who hide their
heads in the sand? Why is Congress leading the way in this
self-delusion?
Wayne
Ed Nilges
>EGNI...@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Ed Nilges) writes:
>> I include the following post in full. It is the sickest thing I have
>> ever seen on this net.
>
>> A personal note. I have been in the past abusive of my ex-wife.
>
> That's sick all right. Why aren't you in jail?
Because my ex-wife did not press charges at the time of the abuse (ab-
out 12 years ago.) Instead, we were separated ten years ago and we
were divorced eight years ago. Since the separation I have paid almost
$100,000 in child support, consistently and on-time. My current
relationship with my ex-wife is non-violent and based on non-interfer-
ence in each other's lives. I have unlimited access to my children
and frequent contact.
Abuse is a tricky and above all addictive phenomenon. Partly, it is
based on denial. It has been necessary for me at all times to be
open about this abuse..."to keep the memory green." Many well-
intentioned men are kept abusive by secrecy and shame.
Again, returning to more important things, the Gulf War is being
fought in place of negotiations in part because the male half of
the American electorate has been carefully educated since the days
of Adlai Stevenson to project its fears of effeminacy on "eggheads"
and "striped-pants diplomats." We claim that Saddam was unwilling
to negotiate. This is a lie. He was willing to negotiate but he
wished to bring the issue of Israel to the conference table. My
brother's Army unit was informed, officially, in early November
that it was going to "take out" Saddam in January. This at a time
when the United States was supposed to have been negotiating.
Michael Mittmann
>to negotiate. This is a lie. He was willing to negotiate but he
>wished to bring the issue of Israel to the conference table.
Well, America was willing to negotiate, but we wanted him to leave
the country he invaded first. So there we are, two contries, both willing
to negotiate, but somehow we can't reach the table...
By the way, was it on Saturday night live that I heard the line:
Hussien said that he wanted to liberate Palestine, the US
says that they understand fully, they're only there to try to
solve the problems in Iceland.
-mike
Blair P. Houghton
>80% of the people in this country support Bush, even though it's
>obvious that they aren't being given enough information to make an
>intelligent decision. Why are there so many people who hide their
>heads in the sand? Why is Congress leading the way in this
>self-delusion?
Because the "Trow da bums out" campaign in '90 failed so miserably,
and 98% of incumbents retained their seats. Business As Usual is
good Politics Of Paranoia.
--Blair
"The American Socialist Party
were the only gainers."
James Davis Nicoll
I'm sorry, but I can't quite recall the charter for
soc.women, or quite figure out how the Gulf War drinking game
discussion qualifies as soc.women chatter under the charter.
James Nicoll
Wayne A. Christopher
> educated since the days of Adlai Stevenson to project its fears of
> effeminacy on "eggheads" and "striped-pants diplomats." We claim that
> Saddam was unwilling to negotiate. This is a lie. He was willing to
> negotiate but he wished to bring the issue of Israel to the conference
> table.
Let me get this straight, you're claiming that we didn't want to
negotiate and Saddam did because we're victims of testosterone
poisoning and he isn't? I don't want to make any cultural
generalizations, but to imply that American culture is more agressive
than Arab culture is rather strange.
Wayne
Kenn Barry
>is for this reason, perhaps, that I am especially sensitive to the
>rage within me. I am convinced that the Persian Gulf War is the
>product of a profoundly sexist culture's inability to deal with
>complex and difficult issues through diplomacy. If any of you
>punks out there don't like this, come and get me, motherfuckers.
Since you don't abuse your ex any more, you ought to consider a
tour in the Gulf, yourself; the impulse to violence seems to still rule
your thoughts. God, no wonder you think most men are
testosterone-poisoned - sheer projection. If Bush & Co. were as
sweet-tempered as you are, we'd probably have nuked Iraq into a parking
lot by now.
Is it just Sweet Ed, d'you think, or has the overall quality of
"peace" activists sunk this low in the last 20 years? I really think we
had a better class of people taking to the streets back when we were
trying to get this country out of 'Nam.
- From the Crow's Nest - Kenn Barry
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Hillel Gazit
> Is it just Sweet Ed, d'you think, or has the overall quality of
>"peace" activists sunk this low in the last 20 years?
The peace activists behave like most incompetent generals -
they are fully prepared, for the *previous* war.
tj...@sleepy.bmd.trw.com
[and this guy actually attends Princeton?]
In article <12...@pucc.Princeton.EDU>, EGNI...@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Ed Nilges) writes:
> I include the following post in full. It is the sickest thing I have
> ever seen on this net.
Not counting what you have just written.
It describes how to drink while men, women,
> and children are being killed in Israel and in Iraq.
So, if we quit drinking they'll quit dying?
Note that it
> is an example of the thinking of a significant segment of the prowar.
> There are many good people convinced that the Gulf War is just and I
> have no brief against them for this post.
>
No, you only have a problem with the people who drink or don't
think the way you do. Another self-styled, self-righteous,
I-know-what's-best-for-you jerk-off.
> Margot Kidder, in an act of latter-day heroism, has accused our
> policy of being an example of nothing more than terminal testosterone
> poisoning. The National Organization for Women has called upon the
> nations to stop this insanity, as has Coretta Scott King.
>
> If you don't like what they have to say, then take a look at what
> confronts them in this post.
My, my. Drinking games are the sort of thing the world turns about!
>
> No doubt the Super Bowl tomorrow will see a massive increase in
> crimes against women and children as cowardly and despicable men,
> inflamed by nationalistic and chauvinistic passion as well as
> alcohol, take out their anger and fear on targets of convenience.
>
Geeze, what a Bozo (tm). Get a grip, will ya?
> A personal note. I have been in the past abusive of my ex-wife. It
> is for this reason, perhaps, that I am especially sensitive to the
> rage within me.
Maybe you should work on cleaning up your own backyard before you
start raging at us.
I am convinced that the Persian Gulf War is the
> product of a profoundly sexist culture's inability to deal with
> complex and difficult issues through diplomacy.
I can respect that. However, if you don't like it, run for elective
office and do something about it. But then, I ask myself, do you
even VOTE?
If any of you punks out there don't like this,
> come and get me, motherfuckers.
>
Look here, jerk: I'm in the Army Reserve and I'm ready to go. Yeah,
that means defending your right to call the rest of us "motherfuckers".
Number one, I resent your arrogant attitude and, number two, I have
yet to see that word used even by the most inept newbie on the
net.
Now, you may not agree with the war, and you may not agree with
drinking, and you may not agree with mixing the two. And I respect
your right to say so. But hey, what gives you the fucking right
to say that *we're* wrong and *you're* right. Just fuck off, okay?
Actually, I think the description of the drinking game is all good
fun. I can confidently say that if the guys and gals I know in
Desert Storm knew about it, they'd think it's a hoot! Geezes,
you want to do something constructive? Why don't you go help out
with a homeless shelter or something. Leave the war fighting to
people who have some perspective. Nothing YOU or I say is gonna
change anything.
> Now for the posting. Try not to throw up.
>
Your previous comments already took care of that.
=Tim=
tj...@doc.bmd.trw.com
Gary Coffman
>
>manipulated by the government and the media, they don't seem to care?
>80% of the people in this country support Bush, even though it's
>obvious that they aren't being given enough information to make an
>intelligent decision. Why are there so many people who hide their
>heads in the sand? Why is Congress leading the way in this
>self-delusion?
From reflection on the Vietnam experience, people now understand that
fragmentary moment by moment coverage doesn't give a true picture of what's
happening. For example, analysis of the Tet offensive shows that it was the
most decisive victory of the war for the Americans. US forces so badly mauled
the NVA reqular army that they were unable to mount any large scale operations
for over two years while they rebuilt their forces almost from scratch. Yet
the fragmentary "instant analysis" done by the media portrayed Tet as a
major defeat for US forces. That coverage was in large measure responsible
for the wholesale loss of support for the war at home. People are also
remembering from WWII the adage "loose lips sink ships" which applies today
as much as it did then. With near instant worldwide media coverage, anything
reported to the American people is also being reported to the enemy. Thus
many people are willing to forego a TV war as entertainment in hopes of
helping the real war effort and not getting any of our boys killed needlessly
simply because "we want to know". The important things, the "why we fight"
things, have all been thrashed out in detail over the last five months.
Now most people are willing to let the military do it's thing unhampered
by Monday morning quarterbacking.
Gary
Burton Keeble
>
> [and this guy actually attends Princeton?]
>
>In article <12...@pucc.Princeton.EDU>, EGNI...@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Ed Nilges) writes:
I deleted most of this jingoistic point-counter-point diatribe....
>
>
> If any of you punks out there don't like this,
>> come and get me, motherfuckers.
>>
> Look here, jerk: I'm in the Army Reserve and I'm ready to go. Yeah,
> that means defending your right to call the rest of us "motherfuckers".
> Number one, I resent your arrogant attitude and, number two, I have
> yet to see that word used even by the most inept newbie on the
> net.
>
See what I mean?
>
> Actually, I think the description of the drinking game is all good
> fun. I can confidently say that if the guys and gals I know in
> Desert Storm knew about it, they'd think it's a hoot! Geezes,
> you want to do something constructive? Why don't you go help out
> with a homeless shelter or something. Leave the war fighting to
> people who have some perspective. Nothing YOU or I say is gonna
> change anything.
>
Without having seen The Gulf War Drinking Game (and I really don't want to),
I have to agree that your perspective is probably the one I'd like to have
if I were going into battle (and I really don't want to do that either).
>
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Tom Fitzgerald
> I include the following post in full. It is the sickest thing I have
> ever seen on this net. It describes how to drink while men, women,
> and children are being killed in Israel and in Iraq. Note that it
> is an example of the thinking of a significant segment of the prowar.
I dunno, I thought it was a great satire of the media circus
surrounding the war. I'm totally opposed to the war as it it is being
fought (Hussein must be removed from power, but the US does not have
the right to spearhead a war to do it), and I thought the drinking
game was funny in a very acid, pointed way.
Ed, what you're saying is as vicious as anything Bush has said, or
Hussein for that matter. You'd be much better off with a sense of
perspective and a sense of humor. Speaking as someone opposed to the
war, I'm not happy about being in the same camp as you are.
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Baba Rum Dudu
>>I dunno, I thought it was a great satire of the media circus
Shit, they's jus' good ole girls too. Can't be denyin' them their equal
right ta a li'l fun.
>I want you to see how "satire" and cynicism are readily perverted.
>Consider, for example, how today's comedians attack the powerless
>because they are too frightened to attack the powerful.
Hey, your right. The comedians I see all make fun of D.Trump, G.Bush,
S.Hussein, M.Jackson. All people with no power. Of course, the real
people with power, like Milli Vanilli, get harrassed to. They call
this equal opportunity.
>This whole situation must NOT be used for satire by immature college
>boys who have been repeatedly assured that the only draft will be
>that of minorities and the poor. Clear? Good.
I agree whole heartedly. Listen up you mere college boys! Leave this here
cynicism and satire to them's that's had the time to let it ferment into
something vitriolic and unstable. Leave it to the same aged people as those
who would send you to your death without being able to expain it to you.
Or better yet, leave it to me.
>I hope when you grow up you will learn what T. S. Eliot meant when
>he wrote of the "laceration of laughter that ceases to amuse."
I hope when he grows up he won't be a desicated old shoe like you, old fool.
>. . . . . The objective features of American society, its lawlessness,
>its cynicism and its disregard for the Other have perverted Desert
>Shield into this obscenity...Desert Storm. So wipe that grin off
>your face. You share in the blame of this war (as do I) and no
>cheap antiwar stance will change that fact. We're all guilty...
>from George Bush to the protestors to Saddam Hussein.
I feel so UNCLEAN! Yes I know I'm to blame but it all started back
when I was a boy in school. Teachers always said it was my fault.
They must've been right cause here's ole Ed, saying the same thing.
I'm a bad boy because somebody did somptin I couldn't stop from happnin.
Well they taught me something else too. If ya spread the responsibility
around you can spread the guilt around too.
Sorry I got my own stuff ta be guilty about. This war isn't mine.
I ride da bus. ;^)
>Men sitting around drinking in front of a TV set all too often provide
>a setting in our society for violence against women and children, and
>the victims of this war will be women and children. The syndrome
>is the same.
Hahahaha. Homer Simpson a wife and child beater. Dysfunctional families
do not necessarily turn to violence. Women and children are not the only
victims. Your myopic blatherings haven't improved over your time here
on the net.
Calm down. Have an orgasm.
>Now if you want to start a flame war, be advised that the prowar on
>this net would just LOVE to see the antiwar divided. Having said
>that, be advised that if you want a flame war you will get a flame
>war.
I am advised. So?
I'm actually antiflamewar. And I want peace. I would like to see peace
waged with all the energy and sophistication thatwe seem to be using in
this war. (BTW isn't it refreshing to be able to call this war a war and
not a police action or limited political adjustment?) But that's not why
I'm posting.
Ed you are a butthead. You are a prime example of someone trained to
communicate who has nothing whatsoever of value to say. To say you were
wrong would imply you knew something of which you type about. You don't.
Your reaction to the drinking game displays all the earmarks of an
arrested emotional development at the adolescent stage. As such maybe
you could learn from the more mature on the net, such as Babs Stubna.
Get a life. Grow a brain. Get a clue. Engage brain before typing. Close
cover before striking. Your red scarf matches you eyes. Collect proof
of purchase seals for valuable coupons.
And in the immortal words of that Great Philosopher, The Human Torch,
Flame On!
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Tom Fitzgerald
> Now if you want to start a flame war, be advised that the prowar on
> this net would just LOVE to see the antiwar divided.
So what? This is exactly the same argument as the pro-war side is using:
"Nobody should ever say anything against the war, because Hussien would
just LOVE to see the Americans divided". I'm not going to be manipulated
into changing my opinions just because they're shared by people I don't
like.
> Having said
> that, be advised that if you want a flame war you will get a flame
> war.
Ed, you are the most VIOLENT pacifist I've ever heard. If you loathe
violence against women, children, Arabs, etc., so much, why are you love
verbal combat so much?
Followups to alt.flame, where I won't have to see them. This no longer
has anything to do with men, women or Desert Storm.