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Left Brain

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Jul 6, 2003, 8:11:34 AM7/6/03
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words, deeds and thoughts seem to encompass the essence of a person, the
facade they present is no reflection of what a person is inside.

Art trades on the visual and perceived, leaving everything to the
imagination and interpretation of the viewer.


I like words more as I get older, they are important to me.

words are so much more than a painting, words can create a better image than
any painter.


Eris de Suzerain

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Jul 13, 2003, 5:29:50 PM7/13/03
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"Left Brain" <myhands...@oddtimes.com> wrote in message
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> words, deeds and thoughts seem to encompass the essence of a person, the
> facade they present is no reflection of what a person is inside.
>

People only make apparent what they want to be seen of themselves. The Ego
has a vested interest in padding its image - only a child, and few of them
at that, knows what it is like to be without trying to influence the
opinions of others...

But then, i take that back - even as infants, we cry and change our
attitudes to manipulate responses... I don't know that there is such a thing
as pure communication, pure true reflection of self - unless telepathy were
possible and present - then we would all be so naked to each other that
perhaps judgement would be impossible, seeing the tortured visions and
delusions of the person who is jockeying you for social control or alpha
superiority - old habits from our animal days that do not serve anything
except to destroy intellectual progress - but then - but then, who gives a
fuck, ranting is the only response capable of a container so full of
confusion as the one who types in response having left the message unread
until such time as i could muster something to speak back, worthy or not of
reflection or contribution - or something -


> Art trades on the visual and perceived, leaving everything to the
> imagination and interpretation of the viewer.
>

Words do the same in some uses - words and images conveyed by words being
dependent upon cultural background and knowledge. The Bible was translated
differently for the Africans than the Americans because the imagery
contained therein did not communicate to the local populace, therefore the
lion does not lie down with the lamb in their version. All things are up for
interpretation, even "logic".

>
> I like words more as I get older, they are important to me.
>

Words are a beauty, they can carry so much - but so much more, as with
visual arts, they carry most reflection about the perceiver - a Rohrschack
test of the psyché. I like words between entities who have never physically
met because they seem purer to the intent than words between those with
agendas, who meet, who know each other, who have some vested interest in the
intactedness of the social relationship for whatever selfish reasons. I wish
to never know another soul in "real life" again, i wish to live in a house
with bare floors and bare walls. I wish to live in a world bare of words,
full of pure experience and damned the interpreting it all - what means
something today will mean nothing to the next generation - you have to
research the meanings behind the meanings of the day to get Shakespeare's
jokes or understand a lick of Moby Dick (which i still think was way
overdone in metaphorical wandering, as much as i like metaphors and
analogies). Words depend on the point of reference of the reader, as much as
imagery or any other form of expression. Unless the human hearing/seeing or
experiencing can transcend their cultural barriers and understand the root
of what they are hearing or reading...

Even English to English becomes a barrier when speaking from Americans to
Australians to Britons - all the same "language", all so many different
points of reference, nuances lost on Ausländern (or how ever you spell it -
it is sunday, give me a break)

> words are so much more than a painting, words can create a better image
than
> any painter.

So here i disagree with you. At first impulse, my disagreement was to insist
that images are so much more than words - but upon further reflection, i
find them to be equal in ability - so much is in the court of the
perceiver - and the power of the words depends upon the flexibility of the
mind engaging them. Same with paintings or visual interpretations - while
some may only understand literalism - that is, landscapes and still lifes -
some may find voice in the abstract and surreal - in order to truly find
voice in that environment in writing or imagery, one must have the ability
to see beyond the literal - yet some abstract or surreal "art" AND "writing"
may be just as much crap as the country landscapes painted to the point of
distraction by so many tail wagging painters or authors - it is not so much
the vehicle as the dance between both the presenter and the perceiver...

I will contend that the dance, that interaction, is what art really is - it
is not the finished product, it is not the skill used to create it (that is
called craftsmanship, and has its own merit - but fine craftsmanship and art
are not one and the same) - it is the moment between the perceiver and
presenter... it is what transpires that cannot be translated, it is a
private moment, it is creating spark whether of joy and pleasure or seering
pain and disgust - the dance of minds, that is art.... and in any venue and
any media, it is equal in value to the participants involved....


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