On Jul 22, 10:21 am, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 22:49:08 -0700 (PDT), the following
> appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Waldo Tunnel
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waldotun...@gmail.com>:
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> >On Jul 19, 12:59 am, Virgil <
vir...@ligriv.com> wrote:
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895dedae-c2c4-4eeb-b3d1-21355ae7b...@n9g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Waldo Tunnel <
waldotun...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > On Jul 10, 6:17 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <
c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
> >> > > Emmett Till <
etill1...@gmail.com> wrote in news:edcedc39-894e-4ed4-8041-
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324a3e27d...@i11g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:
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> >> > > > HOW DO ATHEISTS EXPLAIN POLTERGEIST LEVITATION?
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> >> > > How the fuck do you explain something that never happened?
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> >> > How would you know it never happened unless you know everything that
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> >> Have you any OBJECTIVE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE that any such alleged events
> >> have ever happened?
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> >Tsk, tsk, tsk. You are avoiding my question ["How would you know it
> >never happened..."] and shifting the burden of proof. I didn't make
> >any claims. You did.
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> Wrong.
I'm surprised you wish to take an obvious joke seriously. But hey,
why not?
>You made the claim;
Please quote my "claim."
> he merely stated that he believes
> the event never happened.
He doesn't believe in POLTERGEIST LEVITATION? What about you?
> It's now up to you to provide evidence that it did.
Because....?
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> >> Until you do, and it has been vetted and accepted by non-theists,
> >> it is a non-event.
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> >My goodness! I just asked you to back up your claim. You claim
> >inflicts no burden upon me to disprove it. Did you think it did?
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> You have an interesting idea regarding the burden of proof.
Or you don't read very closely.
> Here's a hint: If I say "There are fairies dancing on my
> bedroom ceiling every night" and you say you don't believe
> me, the burden of proof doesn't shift from me to you;
Because you haven't made a claim in this softball hypothetical you
threw to yourself. But if you said "It is impossible to see fairies of
any definition dancing on my bedroom ceiling every night" then the
burden might very well shift to you.
> it's always the positive claim which requires support.
Baloney. Got a reference you can quote on this subject? Or is it just
too obviously true for you to bother backing up?
If I say "No God exists" it doesn't fall to anyone who disagrees with
me to prove me wrong. And if they do not, it doesn't prove no god
exists.
In this
> case, that's the implied claim that poltergeists exist.
Ah. The "implied" claim. Well, I think I implied somewhere that you
were wrong.