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mur@.not
Dec 25, 2013, 8:07:14 PM12/25/13
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What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
think it should be found, and then presented?
if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
think it should be found, and then presented?
Olrik
Dec 25, 2013, 11:37:50 PM12/25/13
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Le 2013-12-25 20:07, mur@.not a �crit :
There are very few newsgroups about the existence of air.
> ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
> think it should be found, and then presented?
>
--
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
> if he does exist?
For one thing, you wouldn't have to ask.
> if he does exist?
There are very few newsgroups about the existence of air.
> ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
> think it should be found, and then presented?
>
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
MarkA
Dec 26, 2013, 10:06:20 AM12/26/13
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that looks exactly like one with no gods in it. God must embrace Zen
Buddhism - you can only find him is you aren't looking.
thomas p.
Dec 26, 2013, 10:25:47 AM12/26/13
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"MarkA" <som...@somewhere.invalid> skrev i meddelelsen
news:l9hgl...@news4.newsguy.com...
According to mur, if there is no evidence to be seen, the non-believer must
explain why there is no evidence to be seen, and what kind of evidence would
be found if there were any. Very weird. One would almost suspect that he
is trying to divert attention from the fact that neither he nor any theist
asked has been able to present any evidence, but surely he would no do any
such thing.
--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
news:l9hgl...@news4.newsguy.com...
explain why there is no evidence to be seen, and what kind of evidence would
be found if there were any. Very weird. One would almost suspect that he
is trying to divert attention from the fact that neither he nor any theist
asked has been able to present any evidence, but surely he would no do any
such thing.
--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
raven1
Dec 26, 2013, 11:26:14 AM12/26/13
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me.
---
raven1
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EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
BAAWA Knight
linuxgal
Dec 26, 2013, 11:39:30 AM12/26/13
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raven1 wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>> if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
>> think it should be found, and then presented?
>
> Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
> me.
How about an easy one. Define 'n' as the position of the currently
> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>> if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
>> think it should be found, and then presented?
>
> Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
> me.
deepest expansion of the decimal expression of pi, one billion digits,
two billion digits, whatever it is. Ask God (through his spokesman or
whatever) to return the value of the ten digits starting at the position
2n, to be verified in a decade or two when our supercomputers reach that
position.
Christopher A. Lee
Dec 26, 2013, 12:19:02 PM12/26/13
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>if he does exist?
ANYTHING THAT LEADS UNEQUIVOCALLY TO IT AS A CONCLUSION, imbecile.
>if he does exist?
You're the one who knows what he is supposed to have, imbecile - we're
not mind readers.
Heck, you haven't even given a reason to propose it.
mur@.not
Dec 26, 2013, 4:35:15 PM12/26/13
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:19:02 -0600, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
wrote:
What if he wants us to have the freedom of thought to wonder whether he
exists or not?
wrote:
exists or not?
mur@.not
Dec 26, 2013, 4:36:41 PM12/26/13
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On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 23:37:50 -0500, Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Le 2013-12-25 20:07, mur@.not a �crit :
>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>> if he does exist?
>
>For one thing, you wouldn't have to ask.
What sort of evidence do you think there would be? How do you think it would
>Le 2013-12-25 20:07, mur@.not a �crit :
>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>> if he does exist?
>
>For one thing, you wouldn't have to ask.
be found, and then presented.
mur@.not
Dec 26, 2013, 4:36:48 PM12/26/13
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On 26 Dec 2013 15:06:20 GMT, MarkA <som...@somewhere.invalid> wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur wrote:
>
>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
>> be if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are?
>> How do they think it should be found, and then presented?
>
>A good question, considering that he seems to have created a Universe
>that looks exactly like one with no gods in it.
All you have is your own beliefs regarding this one planet. You don't know
>On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur wrote:
>
>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
>> be if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are?
>> How do they think it should be found, and then presented?
>
>A good question, considering that he seems to have created a Universe
>that looks exactly like one with no gods in it.
anything at all about the rest of the Universe. What sort of evidence of his
existence do you think there would be if he did exist, and how do you think it
would be presented?
mur@.not
Dec 26, 2013, 4:36:56 PM12/26/13
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:25:47 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"MarkA" <som...@somewhere.invalid> skrev i meddelelsen
>news:l9hgl...@news4.newsguy.com...
>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur wrote:
>>
>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
>>> be if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are?
>>> How do they think it should be found, and then presented?
>>
>> A good question, considering that he seems to have created a Universe
>> that looks exactly like one with no gods in it. God must embrace Zen
>> Buddhism - you can only find him is you aren't looking.
>
>
>According to mur, if there is no evidence to be seen, the non-believer must
>explain why there is no evidence to be seen, and what kind of evidence would
>be found if there were any. Very weird.
It's a very resonable thing to wonder about. So far none of you appear to
>"MarkA" <som...@somewhere.invalid> skrev i meddelelsen
>news:l9hgl...@news4.newsguy.com...
>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur wrote:
>>
>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
>>> be if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are?
>>> How do they think it should be found, and then presented?
>>
>> A good question, considering that he seems to have created a Universe
>> that looks exactly like one with no gods in it. God must embrace Zen
>> Buddhism - you can only find him is you aren't looking.
>
>
>According to mur, if there is no evidence to be seen, the non-believer must
>explain why there is no evidence to be seen, and what kind of evidence would
>be found if there were any. Very weird.
have any idea what kind of evidence you think should exist if God exists.
>One would almost suspect that he
>is trying to divert attention from the fact that neither he nor any theist
>asked has been able to present any evidence,
atheists by asking the questions. I now challenge you directly to try to answer
them.
mur@.not
Dec 26, 2013, 4:37:05 PM12/26/13
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:26:14 -0500, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
>>think it should be found, and then presented?
>
>Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
>me.
So God would just have to change everything to satisfy you then. Would he
>On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
>>think it should be found, and then presented?
>
>Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
>me.
only have to do it one time, or every time someone asked him to?
Les Hellawell
Dec 26, 2013, 5:27:58 PM12/26/13
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is one just on the say-so of others then you will know how you know
personally.
If that is the case and you want us to share your knowledge
then please explain how you know there is a god in a way I and others
can check and verify for ourselves
--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
raven1
Dec 26, 2013, 6:11:37 PM12/26/13
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effectiveness of prayer. And if prayer is useless, there's a pretty
simple explanation why.
raven1
Dec 26, 2013, 6:18:07 PM12/26/13
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Andromeda galaxy?
duke
Dec 26, 2013, 6:36:47 PM12/26/13
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>On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
>>think it should be found, and then presented?
>
>Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
>me.
Mankind does not need such a thing. If you can't accept the logic and reason
>
>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
>>think it should be found, and then presented?
>
>Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
>me.
for God's existence, shame on you.
>---
>raven1
>aa # 1096
>EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
>BAAWA Knight
*****
When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
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duke
Dec 26, 2013, 6:37:20 PM12/26/13
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duke
Dec 26, 2013, 6:38:38 PM12/26/13
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>On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>if he does exist?
>
>ANYTHING THAT LEADS UNEQUIVOCALLY TO IT AS A CONCLUSION, imbecile.
We got it.
>
>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>if he does exist?
>
>ANYTHING THAT LEADS UNEQUIVOCALLY TO IT AS A CONCLUSION, imbecile.
>
>You're the one who knows what he is supposed to have, imbecile - we're
>not mind readers.
>
>Heck, you haven't even given a reason to propose it.
>You're the one who knows what he is supposed to have, imbecile - we're
>not mind readers.
>
>Heck, you haven't even given a reason to propose it.
felix_unger
Dec 26, 2013, 6:43:31 PM12/26/13
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On 27-December-2013 10:36 AM, duke wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:26:14 -0500, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>>
>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>> if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
>>> think it should be found, and then presented?
>> Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
>> me.
> Mankind does not need such a thing.
Amputees do. and mankind will eventually be able to do it. we are
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:26:14 -0500, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>>
>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>> if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
>>> think it should be found, and then presented?
>> Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
>> me.
> Mankind does not need such a thing.
starting to grow organs now. all things that have made life better for
us humans have been the result of our own efforts. but for those, we
would still be living in caves afraid of thunder and lightning, which is
the condition God supposedly put us in.
> If you can't accept the logic and reason
> for God's existence, shame on you.
>
>> ---
>> raven1
>> aa # 1096
>> EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
>> BAAWA Knight
> duke, American-American
> *****
> When Obama was elected, he said he couldn't be more
> proud for this country. Now, after 5 years, we Americans
> will never be more disgusted with the mess he as created.
> *****
rgds,
Pete
-------
�People sleep peacefully in their beds only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf�
Invid Fan
Dec 26, 2013, 9:12:05 PM12/26/13
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In article <0a0nb9lip7qpk33si...@4ax.com>, <mur@.not>
wrote:
> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
> if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
> think it should be found, and then presented?
It would depend on the god or gods who exist, naturally. The evidence
for an invisible being who does nothing which can be seen is going to
be different than the evidence for a being who shows up before me and
says I have to sacrifice a baby or there will be no rain in the spring.
Define your god, and I'll say what evidence I'd look for.
--
Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'
wrote:
> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
> if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
> think it should be found, and then presented?
for an invisible being who does nothing which can be seen is going to
be different than the evidence for a being who shows up before me and
says I have to sacrifice a baby or there will be no rain in the spring.
Define your god, and I'll say what evidence I'd look for.
--
Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'
linuxgal
Dec 26, 2013, 9:25:38 PM12/26/13
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duke wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:39:30 -0800, linuxgal<linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>> >How about an easy one. Define 'n' as the position of the currently
>> >deepest expansion of the decimal expression of pi, one billion digits,
>> >two billion digits, whatever it is. Ask God (through his spokesman or
>> >whatever) to return the value of the ten digits starting at the position
>> >2n, to be verified in a decade or two when our supercomputers reach that
>> >position.
> Who cares?
Your god can't even swing that one, eh?
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:39:30 -0800, linuxgal<linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>> >How about an easy one. Define 'n' as the position of the currently
>> >deepest expansion of the decimal expression of pi, one billion digits,
>> >two billion digits, whatever it is. Ask God (through his spokesman or
>> >whatever) to return the value of the ten digits starting at the position
>> >2n, to be verified in a decade or two when our supercomputers reach that
>> >position.
> Who cares?
Olrik
Dec 26, 2013, 11:32:25 PM12/26/13
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Le 2013-12-26 16:36, mur@.not a �crit :
Sigh.
For one thing, you wouldn't have to ask.
Besides, why aren't you all over the jews and muslims. They're fierce
believers in �god� and yet reject your �christ� thing. Don't mind us.
For one thing, you wouldn't have to ask.
believers in �god� and yet reject your �christ� thing. Don't mind us.
Olrik
Dec 26, 2013, 11:45:16 PM12/26/13
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Le 2013-12-26 21:25, linuxgal a �crit :
Poor �duke� choked at 'n' before dismissing the question.
Olrik
Dec 26, 2013, 11:48:37 PM12/26/13
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Le 2013-12-26 16:35, mur@.not a �crit :
Hey!
The same thinking applies to Fleeboot, the God of Gods! Now you have to
praise Her! You owe your very existence to Her will! KNEEL! And send me
cash!
The same thinking applies to Fleeboot, the God of Gods! Now you have to
praise Her! You owe your very existence to Her will! KNEEL! And send me
cash!
Dakota
Dec 27, 2013, 3:59:01 AM12/27/13
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thomas p.
Dec 27, 2013, 9:17:31 AM12/27/13
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<mur@.not> skrev i meddelelsen
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that you are very aware that it is silly.
>
>>One would almost suspect that he
>>is trying to divert attention from the fact that neither he nor any theist
>>asked has been able to present any evidence,
>
> One notices that you are clearly trying to avoid the challenge I put to
> atheists by asking the questions. I now challenge you directly to try to
> answer
> them.
>
No.
news:mb8pb916440hdrsgp...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:25:47 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>"MarkA" <som...@somewhere.invalid> skrev i meddelelsen
>>news:l9hgl...@news4.newsguy.com...
>>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur wrote:
>>>
>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
>>>> be if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are?
>>>> How do they think it should be found, and then presented?
>>>
>>> A good question, considering that he seems to have created a Universe
>>> that looks exactly like one with no gods in it. God must embrace Zen
>>> Buddhism - you can only find him is you aren't looking.
>>
>>
>>According to mur, if there is no evidence to be seen, the non-believer
>>must
>>explain why there is no evidence to be seen, and what kind of evidence
>>would
>>be found if there were any. Very weird.
>
> It's a very resonable thing to wonder about. So far none of you appear
> to
> have any idea what kind of evidence you think should exist if God exists.
It is a silly question, and (I may be being too generous here) I suspect
>
>>"MarkA" <som...@somewhere.invalid> skrev i meddelelsen
>>news:l9hgl...@news4.newsguy.com...
>>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur wrote:
>>>
>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
>>>> be if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are?
>>>> How do they think it should be found, and then presented?
>>>
>>> A good question, considering that he seems to have created a Universe
>>> that looks exactly like one with no gods in it. God must embrace Zen
>>> Buddhism - you can only find him is you aren't looking.
>>
>>
>>According to mur, if there is no evidence to be seen, the non-believer
>>must
>>explain why there is no evidence to be seen, and what kind of evidence
>>would
>>be found if there were any. Very weird.
>
> It's a very resonable thing to wonder about. So far none of you appear
> to
> have any idea what kind of evidence you think should exist if God exists.
that you are very aware that it is silly.
>
>>One would almost suspect that he
>>is trying to divert attention from the fact that neither he nor any theist
>>asked has been able to present any evidence,
>
> One notices that you are clearly trying to avoid the challenge I put to
> atheists by asking the questions. I now challenge you directly to try to
> answer
> them.
>
linuxgal
Dec 27, 2013, 9:49:12 AM12/27/13
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diameter.
Jeanne Douglas
Dec 27, 2013, 11:47:02 PM12/27/13
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In article <q7epb9lvkhtv5u3f4...@4ax.com>,
Derangement Syndrome, has proposed something very close to that.
Compare my Bush Derangement Syndrome--I despised him because he was
pissing away my tax money in a massive way. I despised him because he
never got the same opprobrium over NSA spying that Obama's getting. I
despise him because of things that he actually did. the ODS sufferers
despise Obama because they imagine all kinds of horrible things he MIGHT
be. It's complete separation from reality and I really don't understand
how these people survive in the real world; even if they self-segregate,
they have to have some contact with reality.
--
JD
"If our country is going broke, let it be from
feeding the poor and caring for the elderly.
And not from pampering the rich and fighting
wars for them."--Living Blue in a Red State (seen on Facebook)
raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:35:15 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:19:02 -0600, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
> >>
> >>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there
> >>> should be
> >>>if he does exist?
> >>
> >>ANYTHING THAT LEADS UNEQUIVOCALLY TO IT AS A CONCLUSION, imbecile.
> >>
> >>You're the one who knows what he is supposed to have, imbecile - we're
> >>not mind readers.
> >>
> >>Heck, you haven't even given a reason to propose it.
> >
> > What if he wants us to have the freedom of thought to wonder whether he
> >exists or not?
>
> What if Barack Obama is really a shape-shifting alien from the
> Andromeda galaxy?
I'm quite certain that somebody somewhere, the worst sufferer of Obama
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:35:15 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:19:02 -0600, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
> >>
> >>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there
> >>> should be
> >>>if he does exist?
> >>
> >>ANYTHING THAT LEADS UNEQUIVOCALLY TO IT AS A CONCLUSION, imbecile.
> >>
> >>You're the one who knows what he is supposed to have, imbecile - we're
> >>not mind readers.
> >>
> >>Heck, you haven't even given a reason to propose it.
> >
> > What if he wants us to have the freedom of thought to wonder whether he
> >exists or not?
>
> What if Barack Obama is really a shape-shifting alien from the
> Andromeda galaxy?
Derangement Syndrome, has proposed something very close to that.
Compare my Bush Derangement Syndrome--I despised him because he was
pissing away my tax money in a massive way. I despised him because he
never got the same opprobrium over NSA spying that Obama's getting. I
despise him because of things that he actually did. the ODS sufferers
despise Obama because they imagine all kinds of horrible things he MIGHT
be. It's complete separation from reality and I really don't understand
how these people survive in the real world; even if they self-segregate,
they have to have some contact with reality.
--
JD
"If our country is going broke, let it be from
feeding the poor and caring for the elderly.
And not from pampering the rich and fighting
wars for them."--Living Blue in a Red State (seen on Facebook)
Jeanne Douglas
Dec 27, 2013, 11:47:56 PM12/27/13
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In article <e4mob95099r1694i0...@4ax.com>,
Of course, that wouldn't mean I'd worship the evil bastard.
raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
> > What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
> > be
> >if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do
> >they
> >think it should be found, and then presented?
>
> Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
> me.
Me, too.
> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
> > What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
> > be
> >if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do
> >they
> >think it should be found, and then presented?
>
> Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
> me.
Of course, that wouldn't mean I'd worship the evil bastard.
Jeanne Douglas
Dec 27, 2013, 11:49:46 PM12/27/13
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In article <l9jfgq$ibv$1...@dont-email.me>, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
wrote:
Really? Oh, please, do tell; I'd always wondered from where the
politicians wanting to enact that into law got the insane idea.
wrote:
politicians wanting to enact that into law got the insane idea.
Jeanne Douglas
Dec 27, 2013, 11:57:26 PM12/27/13
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In article <52bc4a7a$0$6956$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk>,
> such thing.
Oh, yeah. You nailed it!
"thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "MarkA" <som...@somewhere.invalid> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:l9hgl...@news4.newsguy.com...
> "MarkA" <som...@somewhere.invalid> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:l9hgl...@news4.newsguy.com...
> > On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur wrote:
> >
> >> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
> >> be if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are?
> >> How do they think it should be found, and then presented?
> >
> >
> >> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
> >> be if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are?
> >> How do they think it should be found, and then presented?
> >
> > A good question, considering that he seems to have created a Universe
> > that looks exactly like one with no gods in it. God must embrace Zen
> > Buddhism - you can only find him is you aren't looking.
>
>
> According to mur, if there is no evidence to be seen, the non-believer must
> explain why there is no evidence to be seen, and what kind of evidence would
> be found if there were any. Very weird. One would almost suspect that he
> > that looks exactly like one with no gods in it. God must embrace Zen
> > Buddhism - you can only find him is you aren't looking.
>
>
> According to mur, if there is no evidence to be seen, the non-believer must
> explain why there is no evidence to be seen, and what kind of evidence would
> is trying to divert attention from the fact that neither he nor any theist
> asked has been able to present any evidence, but surely he would no do any
> such thing.
Oh, yeah. You nailed it!
Jeanne Douglas
Dec 28, 2013, 12:01:02 AM12/28/13
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In article <52bd8bf8$0$6958$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk>,
evidence we require, he's also being deceitful.
"thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <mur@.not> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:mb8pb916440hdrsgp...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:25:47 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>"MarkA" <som...@somewhere.invalid> skrev i meddelelsen
> >>news:l9hgl...@news4.newsguy.com...
> >>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
> >>>> be if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are?
> >>>> How do they think it should be found, and then presented?
> >>>
> >>> A good question, considering that he seems to have created a Universe
> >>> that looks exactly like one with no gods in it. God must embrace Zen
> >>> Buddhism - you can only find him is you aren't looking.
> >>
> >>
> >>According to mur, if there is no evidence to be seen, the non-believer
> >>must
> >>explain why there is no evidence to be seen, and what kind of evidence
> >>would
> >>be found if there were any. Very weird.
> >
> > It's a very resonable thing to wonder about. So far none of you appear
> > to
> > have any idea what kind of evidence you think should exist if God exists.
>
> It is a silly question, and (I may be being too generous here) I suspect
> that you are very aware that it is silly.
And since all our theist trolls have been told exactly what kind of
> <mur@.not> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:mb8pb916440hdrsgp...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:25:47 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>"MarkA" <som...@somewhere.invalid> skrev i meddelelsen
> >>news:l9hgl...@news4.newsguy.com...
> >>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
> >>>> be if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are?
> >>>> How do they think it should be found, and then presented?
> >>>
> >>> A good question, considering that he seems to have created a Universe
> >>> that looks exactly like one with no gods in it. God must embrace Zen
> >>> Buddhism - you can only find him is you aren't looking.
> >>
> >>
> >>According to mur, if there is no evidence to be seen, the non-believer
> >>must
> >>explain why there is no evidence to be seen, and what kind of evidence
> >>would
> >>be found if there were any. Very weird.
> >
> > It's a very resonable thing to wonder about. So far none of you appear
> > to
> > have any idea what kind of evidence you think should exist if God exists.
>
> It is a silly question, and (I may be being too generous here) I suspect
> that you are very aware that it is silly.
evidence we require, he's also being deceitful.
thomas p.
Dec 28, 2013, 4:02:32 AM12/28/13
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:hlwdjsd2-4FD54D...@news.giganews.com...
I suspect it is an attempt to get us on a never-ending path of silly
questions. It is the behavior of a person who is totally uninterested in
actually discussing anything, an adolescent who thinks he is clever.
news:hlwdjsd2-4FD54D...@news.giganews.com...
questions. It is the behavior of a person who is totally uninterested in
actually discussing anything, an adolescent who thinks he is clever.
Dakota
Dec 28, 2013, 8:53:48 AM12/28/13
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On 12/27/2013 10:49 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <l9jfgq$ibv$1...@dont-email.me>, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/26/2013 8:25 PM, linuxgal wrote:
>>> duke wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:39:30 -0800,
>>>> linuxgal<linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> How about an easy one. Define 'n' as the position of the currently
>>>>>> deepest expansion of the decimal expression of pi, one billion
>>>>> digits,
>>>>>> two billion digits, whatever it is. Ask God (through his
>>>>> spokesman or
>>>>>> whatever) to return the value of the ten digits starting at the
>>>>> position
>>>>>> 2n, to be verified in a decade or two when our supercomputers
>>>>> reach that
>>>>>> position.
>>>> Who cares?
>>>
>>> Your god can't even swing that one, eh?
>>
>> The book "inspired" by duke's god tells us that π = 3.
> In article <l9jfgq$ibv$1...@dont-email.me>, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/26/2013 8:25 PM, linuxgal wrote:
>>> duke wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:39:30 -0800,
>>>> linuxgal<linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> How about an easy one. Define 'n' as the position of the currently
>>>>>> deepest expansion of the decimal expression of pi, one billion
>>>>> digits,
>>>>>> two billion digits, whatever it is. Ask God (through his
>>>>> spokesman or
>>>>>> whatever) to return the value of the ten digits starting at the
>>>>> position
>>>>>> 2n, to be verified in a decade or two when our supercomputers
>>>>> reach that
>>>>>> position.
>>>> Who cares?
>>>
>>> Your god can't even swing that one, eh?
>>
>
> Really? Oh, please, do tell; I'd always wondered from where the
> politicians wanting to enact that into law got the insane idea.
>
That's why they proposed the legislation. What's distressing is that
> Really? Oh, please, do tell; I'd always wondered from where the
> politicians wanting to enact that into law got the insane idea.
>
the same sort of idiots are being elected and reelected to this day. Alas.
linuxgal
Dec 28, 2013, 9:24:41 AM12/28/13
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they were Duke-level idiots who didn't even understand their own
scripture, let alone trig.
Dakota
Dec 28, 2013, 12:03:26 PM12/28/13
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linuxgal
Dec 28, 2013, 12:52:37 PM12/28/13
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sin(x)/cos(x)=tan(pi/2-x)
Dakota
Dec 28, 2013, 1:41:16 PM12/28/13
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triangles. Trig has applications beyond triangles but calculations of
the area and circumference of circles and other plane figures, and the
volume of solid objects preceded the development of trigonometry.
-------
Geometry originated as a practical science concerned with surveying,
measurements, areas, and volumes. Among the notable accomplishments
one finds formulas for lengths, areas and volumes, such as the
Pythagorean theorem, circumference and area of a circle, area of a
triangle, volume of a cylinder, sphere, and a pyramid. A method of
computing certain inaccessible distances or heights based on
similarity of geometric figures is attributed to Thales. Development
of astronomy led to emergence of trigonometry and spherical
trigonometry, together with the attendant computational techniques.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometry
Trigonometry (from Greek trigōnon, "triangle" + metron, "measure"[1])
is a branch of mathematics that studies relationships involving
lengths and angles of triangles. The field emerged during the 3rd
century BC from applications of geometry to astronomical studies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigonometry
mur@.not
Dec 29, 2013, 12:31:33 PM12/29/13
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:32:25 -0500, Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Le 2013-12-26 16:36, mur@.not a �crit :
>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 23:37:50 -0500, Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Le 2013-12-25 20:07, mur@.not a �crit :
>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>>> if he does exist?
>>>
>>> For one thing, you wouldn't have to ask.
>>
>> What sort of evidence do you think there would be? How do you think it would
>> be found, and then presented.
>
>Sigh.
You still have nothing.
>Le 2013-12-26 16:36, mur@.not a �crit :
>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 23:37:50 -0500, Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Le 2013-12-25 20:07, mur@.not a �crit :
>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>>> if he does exist?
>>>
>>> For one thing, you wouldn't have to ask.
>>
>> What sort of evidence do you think there would be? How do you think it would
>> be found, and then presented.
>
>Sigh.
>For one thing, you wouldn't have to ask.
How do you think it would be found, and then presented.
>Besides, why aren't you all over the jews and muslims. They're fierce
>believers in �god� and yet reject your �christ� thing. Don't mind us.
You guys keep acting like there should be some sort of evidence even if God
>believers in �god� and yet reject your �christ� thing. Don't mind us.
does exist but doesn't want to provide proof of it. It only makes sense that
other people are curious what sort of evidence you think you're trying to
demand, where you think it should be found, and how you think it should be
presented. So...?
mur@.not
Dec 29, 2013, 12:31:43 PM12/29/13
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On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:17:31 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
><mur@.not> skrev i meddelelsen
>news:mb8pb916440hdrsgp...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:25:47 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"MarkA" <som...@somewhere.invalid> skrev i meddelelsen
>>>news:l9hgl...@news4.newsguy.com...
>>>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
>>>>> be if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are?
>>>>> How do they think it should be found, and then presented?
>>>>
>>>> A good question, considering that he seems to have created a Universe
>>>> that looks exactly like one with no gods in it. God must embrace Zen
>>>> Buddhism - you can only find him is you aren't looking.
>>>
>>>
>>>According to mur, if there is no evidence to be seen, the non-believer
>>>must
>>>explain why there is no evidence to be seen, and what kind of evidence
>>>would
>>>be found if there were any. Very weird.
>>
>> It's a very resonable thing to wonder about. So far none of you appear
>> to
>> have any idea what kind of evidence you think should exist if God exists.
>
>It is a silly question, and (I may be being too generous here) I suspect
>that you are very aware that it is silly.
There's nothing silly about wondering what you think you're trying to talk
><mur@.not> skrev i meddelelsen
>news:mb8pb916440hdrsgp...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:25:47 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"MarkA" <som...@somewhere.invalid> skrev i meddelelsen
>>>news:l9hgl...@news4.newsguy.com...
>>>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
>>>>> be if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are?
>>>>> How do they think it should be found, and then presented?
>>>>
>>>> A good question, considering that he seems to have created a Universe
>>>> that looks exactly like one with no gods in it. God must embrace Zen
>>>> Buddhism - you can only find him is you aren't looking.
>>>
>>>
>>>According to mur, if there is no evidence to be seen, the non-believer
>>>must
>>>explain why there is no evidence to be seen, and what kind of evidence
>>>would
>>>be found if there were any. Very weird.
>>
>> It's a very resonable thing to wonder about. So far none of you appear
>> to
>> have any idea what kind of evidence you think should exist if God exists.
>
>It is a silly question, and (I may be being too generous here) I suspect
>that you are very aware that it is silly.
about. It's below silly that you apparently don't have any idea what you think
you're trying to talk about.
>>>One would almost suspect that he
>>>is trying to divert attention from the fact that neither he nor any theist
>>>asked has been able to present any evidence,
>>
>> One notices that you are clearly trying to avoid the challenge I put to
>> atheists by asking the questions. I now challenge you directly to try to
>> answer
>> them.
>>
>
>No.
people think you're trying to demand. Not only do you not have any idea, but you
can't even try to pretend that you do.
mur@.not
Dec 29, 2013, 12:29:51 PM12/29/13
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:48:37 -0500, Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Le 2013-12-26 16:35, mur@.not a �crit :
>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:19:02 -0600, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>>>
>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>>> if he does exist?
>>>
>>> ANYTHING THAT LEADS UNEQUIVOCALLY TO IT AS A CONCLUSION, imbecile.
>>>
>>> You're the one who knows what he is supposed to have, imbecile - we're
>>> not mind readers.
>>>
>>> Heck, you haven't even given a reason to propose it.
>>
>> What if he wants us to have the freedom of thought to wonder whether he
>> exists or not?
>>
>
>Hey!
Ok. SOME of us have the freedom to wonder. Others believe he does not exist,
>Le 2013-12-26 16:35, mur@.not a �crit :
>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:19:02 -0600, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>>>
>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>>> if he does exist?
>>>
>>> ANYTHING THAT LEADS UNEQUIVOCALLY TO IT AS A CONCLUSION, imbecile.
>>>
>>> You're the one who knows what he is supposed to have, imbecile - we're
>>> not mind readers.
>>>
>>> Heck, you haven't even given a reason to propose it.
>>
>> What if he wants us to have the freedom of thought to wonder whether he
>> exists or not?
>>
>
>Hey!
but the majority of them appear to be ashamed of that belief.
Les Hellawell
Dec 29, 2013, 2:14:32 PM12/29/13
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belief I could not substatiate in any way.
I am glad you recognise this and understand why the majory of us
have no god beliefs of any kind.
--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
duke
Dec 29, 2013, 6:39:00 PM12/29/13
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duke
Dec 29, 2013, 6:39:49 PM12/29/13
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On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 10:43:31 +1100, felix_unger <m...@nothere.biz> wrote:
>On 27-December-2013 10:36 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:26:14 -0500, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>>>
>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>>> if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
>>>> think it should be found, and then presented?
>>> Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
>>> me.
>> Mankind does not need such a thing.
>Amputees do. and mankind will eventually be able to do it
Could be.
>On 27-December-2013 10:36 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:26:14 -0500, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>>>
>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>>> if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
>>>> think it should be found, and then presented?
>>> Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
>>> me.
>> Mankind does not need such a thing.
>Amputees do. and mankind will eventually be able to do it
linuxgal
Dec 30, 2013, 6:15:33 PM12/30/13
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duke wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 18:25:38 -0800, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:39:30 -0800, linuxgal<linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> How about an easy one. Define 'n' as the position of the currently
>>>>> deepest expansion of the decimal expression of pi, one billion digits,
>>>>> two billion digits, whatever it is. Ask God (through his spokesman or
>>>>> whatever) to return the value of the ten digits starting at the position
>>>>> 2n, to be verified in a decade or two when our supercomputers reach that
>>>>> position.
>>> Who cares?
>>
>> Your god can't even swing that one, eh?
>
> God invented highest order math, things man has never dreamed about yet..
But he can't give us a run of ten digits from pi before we get there
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 18:25:38 -0800, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 08:39:30 -0800, linuxgal<linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> How about an easy one. Define 'n' as the position of the currently
>>>>> deepest expansion of the decimal expression of pi, one billion digits,
>>>>> two billion digits, whatever it is. Ask God (through his spokesman or
>>>>> whatever) to return the value of the ten digits starting at the position
>>>>> 2n, to be verified in a decade or two when our supercomputers reach that
>>>>> position.
>>> Who cares?
>>
>> Your god can't even swing that one, eh?
>
> God invented highest order math, things man has never dreamed about yet..
ourselves.
felix_unger
Dec 30, 2013, 8:22:06 PM12/30/13
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seeking to reinforce the idea that there are no reasons to believe in
supernatural entities, and congratulate each other for doing so
--
rgds,
Pete
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�People sleep peacefully in their beds only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf�
thomas p.
Dec 31, 2013, 5:44:15 AM12/31/13
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<mur@.not> skrev i meddelelsen
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It is your claim, therefore it is your problem to present the evidence not
ours to guess what it should be. That is why your question is silly.
news:p3n0c9hocttigjd71...@4ax.com...
ours to guess what it should be. That is why your question is silly.
thomas p.
Dec 31, 2013, 5:45:45 AM12/31/13
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"felix_unger" <m...@nothere.biz> skrev i meddelelsen
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Don't you get tired of the above silliness? No matter what actual atheists
say to you, you continue to repeat the above nonsense.
news:bieki3...@mid.individual.net...
say to you, you continue to repeat the above nonsense.
felix_unger
Dec 31, 2013, 6:59:34 AM12/31/13
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> No matter what actual atheists
> say to you, you continue to repeat the above nonsense.
observations support my views.
thomas p.
Dec 31, 2013, 11:25:47 AM12/31/13
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"felix_unger" <m...@nothere.biz> skrev i meddelelsen
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Virgil
Dec 31, 2013, 5:16:22 PM12/31/13
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In article <52c2a059$0$6972$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk>,
What we consider is that as long as for every and any theist positions
there is another claiming it to be wrong, why should we believe that any
one of them is not wrong?
We consider each of the many incompossible claims by disparate theist
groups equally, and each rejects all others.
So until your varying theist groups with your warring claims have
settled things amongst yourselves, and come to complete agreement,
whyever should we bother listening to any of you?
--
What we consider is that as long as for every and any theist positions
there is another claiming it to be wrong, why should we believe that any
one of them is not wrong?
We consider each of the many incompossible claims by disparate theist
groups equally, and each rejects all others.
So until your varying theist groups with your warring claims have
settled things amongst yourselves, and come to complete agreement,
whyever should we bother listening to any of you?
--
mur@.not
Jan 4, 2014, 10:18:53 AM1/4/14
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 18:11:37 -0500, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:37:05 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:26:14 -0500, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>only have to do it one time, or every time someone asked him to?
>
>That he has *never* done so
I only have the faith of people who are ashamed of it that Jesus didn't do
similar things, to encourage me to believe Jesus didn't do similar things. So
far I can't share that faith though because there's no reason to at all afaik.
>tells you all you need to know about the
>effectiveness of prayer. And if prayer is useless, there's a pretty
>simple explanation why.
You must have evidence that prayer is useless, so present that.
>On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:37:05 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:26:14 -0500, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>>>
>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>>>if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
>>>>think it should be found, and then presented?
>>>
>>>
>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>>>if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do they
>>>>think it should be found, and then presented?
>>>
>>>Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
>>>me.
>>
>> So God would just have to change everything to satisfy you then. Would he
>>>me.
>>
>>only have to do it one time, or every time someone asked him to?
>
>That he has *never* done so
I only have the faith of people who are ashamed of it that Jesus didn't do
similar things, to encourage me to believe Jesus didn't do similar things. So
far I can't share that faith though because there's no reason to at all afaik.
>tells you all you need to know about the
>effectiveness of prayer. And if prayer is useless, there's a pretty
>simple explanation why.
You must have evidence that prayer is useless, so present that.
mur@.not
Jan 4, 2014, 10:19:05 AM1/4/14
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 18:18:07 -0500, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:35:15 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:19:02 -0600, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
>On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:35:15 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:19:02 -0600, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>>>
>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>>>if he does exist?
>>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>>>
>>>> What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should be
>>>>if he does exist?
>>>
>>>ANYTHING THAT LEADS UNEQUIVOCALLY TO IT AS A CONCLUSION, imbecile.
>>>
>>>You're the one who knows what he is supposed to have, imbecile - we're
>>>not mind readers.
>>>
>>>Heck, you haven't even given a reason to propose it.
>>
>> What if he wants us to have the freedom of thought to wonder whether he
>>exists or not?
>
>What...?
>>>
>>>You're the one who knows what he is supposed to have, imbecile - we're
>>>not mind readers.
>>>
>>>Heck, you haven't even given a reason to propose it.
>>
>> What if he wants us to have the freedom of thought to wonder whether he
>>exists or not?
>
mur@.not
Jan 4, 2014, 10:19:10 AM1/4/14
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demand.
>, therefore it is your problem to present the evidence
don't demand evidence? If so, state it clearly the way you want to be quoted.
mur@.not
Jan 4, 2014, 10:19:17 AM1/4/14
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can are left with the clear impression that you must believe they can't. We're
also necessarily left with the clear impression that you want people to believe
you're capable of something that you're mentally incapable of doing. That of
course goes for all of you who can't consider any way(s) that gods could exist,
or even pretend that you can.
mur@.not
Jan 4, 2014, 10:19:22 AM1/4/14
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On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 20:47:56 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
>In article <e4mob95099r1694i0...@4ax.com>,
>
>Of course, that wouldn't mean I'd worship the evil bastard.
If God somehow eliminated all "evil" on Earth, what life forms do you think
could still exist?
wrote:
>In article <e4mob95099r1694i0...@4ax.com>,
> raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
>>
>> > What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
>> > be
>
>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 20:07:14 -0500, mur@.not wrote:
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>> > What sort of evidence of God's existence do atheists think there should
>> > be
>> >if he does exist? ESPECIALLY if he wants things to be as they are? How do
>> >they
>> >think it should be found, and then presented?
>>
>> >they
>> >think it should be found, and then presented?
>>
>> Regenerating an amputated limb through prayer would work just fine for
>> me.
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>Me, too.
>> me.
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>Of course, that wouldn't mean I'd worship the evil bastard.
If God somehow eliminated all "evil" on Earth, what life forms do you think
could still exist?
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