Energy Tax (Good and Bad Scenarios)
Don Swensen x4289
energy tax, has seen valid arguments from both sides.
I offer yet another scenario for your consideration.
Scenario E: The energy tax bill is passed. Fossil fuel prices
begin to rise. Everybody feels the pinch; private citizens,
big business, little business, foreign interests, etc.. Some
businesses fail and people lose their jobs. The economy is in
turmoil. A greater deppression looms. Finally, private citizens
put enough pressure on the congress to force them to put
pressure on big business, to get off their collective fat asses,
to develop alternative fuels, which are cost effective, compatable
with the envirnment, and don't leave us at the mercy of various
middle-eastern sheikdoms, who could care less what happens to the
infidel americans!
Seriously, we got ourselves into this fix, and we cannot expect
to get out of it painlessly. If we want this country to stand
a snowballs chance in hell of regaining its onetime greatness,
we better pitch in now! We (the people) have to do it. Tell your
elected representatives what you want. You're a fool if you
assume that they'll do it without being prodded. The oil company
PACs can be VERY persuassive with their $$X billions.
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Garry N Ray
>I offer yet another scenario for your consideration.
>Scenario E: The energy tax bill is passed. Fossil fuel prices
>begin to rise. Everybody feels the pinch; private citizens,
>put enough pressure on the congress to force them to put
>pressure on big business, to get off their collective fat asses,
>to develop alternative fuels, which are cost effective, compatable
>with the envirnment, and don't leave us at the mercy of various
>middle-eastern sheikdoms, who could care less what happens to the
>infidel americans!
Well, at leat we're midway toward solving the problems of the world.
Thanks for recognizing that complexity exists and solutions are not easy
or simple. Beats the "raise taxes to eliminate those wasteful vacations to
Disneyland" approach. I would only ask why it's easier to raise taxes and
hurt the economy *first*, to reach the goal of reduced pollution? Why not
mandate alternative fuels, and let the majority of Americans live in some
economic peace while that legislation is taking effect? (I believe the
original message from Mr. Turmoil had a punitive edge to it, which I read
as "Yeah, raise taxes. That'll show those wasteful, middle class,
suburbanites that they can't go driving around like this was the damned
U.S. of A. or something")
Don Swensen x4289
|> dswe...@SU1F.ess.harris.com (Don Swensen x4289) writes:
|>
|> >I offer yet another scenario for your consideration.
|>
|> >Scenario E: The energy tax bill is passed. Fossil fuel prices
|> >begin to rise. Everybody feels the pinch; private citizens,
|> >put enough pressure on the congress to force them to put
|> >pressure on big business, to get off their collective fat asses,
|>
|> I would only ask why it's easier to raise taxes and
|> hurt the economy *first*, to reach the goal of reduced pollution? Why not
|> mandate alternative fuels, and let the majority of Americans live in some
|> economic peace while that legislation is taking effect?
I am not completely in favor of the BTU tax in general, although I am in
favor of additional gasoline taxes. I believe, that since most people do
drive, it is the most equitable way to extract additional revenue from us.
Under the new income tax plan, where the rich are taxed at a greater rate
than the poor, we have effectively discriminated against the rich (before
you jump on me for defending them, let me say that I am far from being rich,
I just despise discrimination in any form). Actually, if you want my true
wishes, I would recommend scenario F:
Congress abolishes the current income tax system and replaces it with a Flat
Tax system, which taxes equally (with no deductions), rich, poor, middle class,
businesses, etc.. at 15%. This increase causes some companies to raise their
prices to offset costs that they have never before been forced to pay.
However, since the average americans tax burden has been reduced by approx.
10-15%, they can absorb the increased costs with little discomfort.
Meanwhile, the treasury is receiving a huge influx of tax dollars, which it
applies to the defecit/national debt/social programs/R&D/etc.. increasing the
quality of life for all americans.
Mike Harris
And of course the poor, already on subsistance level incomes, bite it
again and starve to death in the dark (or freeze to death) thereby
increasing even further *our* slice of the Amerikan pie! Love it!
-Mike
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Michael Olin
>I am not completely in favor of the BTU tax in general, although I am in
>favor of additional gasoline taxes. I believe, that since most people do
>drive, it is the most equitable way to extract additional revenue from us.
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Here's where we differ in philosophy... Rather than suck us dry, our
leaders should be looking for ways to make the billions they're ALREADY
taking from us go farther. OR (mercy me, is it possible?) stop spending
so much and getting so little for it.
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