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al953

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Feb 4, 2004, 12:42:34 PM2/4/04
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Don Ocean

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Feb 4, 2004, 3:45:51 PM2/4/04
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al953 wrote:
>
> http://www.nationofhate.us

Thats just another AntiAmerican Website! Hell it even criticizes the
pablum
you feed your babies. It serves no useful purpose other then the
practice of
1st amendment rights. It is this kind of advertising that the
constitutional
revisionist revelle in and gives them ammunition to butcher our bill of
rights
with. If one must spend that much time and energy forming a graphical
add.
Why doesn't one put together something with some real merit. Actually it
shows
massive Paranoid hatred by the author/s.

George

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Feb 4, 2004, 4:10:48 PM2/4/04
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"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
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I can't say that I disagree with you on this account, Donbo.


al953

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Feb 4, 2004, 4:15:08 PM2/4/04
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"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
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>

Sorry Don, but most of the stuff is true.
We do have the largest per capita prision population.
People with a drug problem shoud not be in prison,
but in rehab.
Prisions in the USA is big business & in the process
of being privatised.
70% of the prision popupation is non-white.

George

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"al953" <al...@xyz.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
> news:402159FF...@amerion.com...
> >
> >
> > al953 wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.nationofhate.us
> >
> > Thats just another AntiAmerican Website! Hell it even criticizes the
> > pablum
> > you feed your babies. It serves no useful purpose other then the
> > practice of
> > 1st amendment rights. It is this kind of advertising that the
> > constitutional
> > revisionist revelle in and gives them ammunition to butcher our bill of
> > rights
> > with. If one must spend that much time and energy forming a graphical
> > add.
> > Why doesn't one put together something with some real merit. Actually it
> > shows
> > massive Paranoid hatred by the author/s.
>
>
>
> Sorry Don, but most of the stuff is true.
> We do have the largest per capita prision population.
> People with a drug problem shoud not be in prison,
> but in rehab.

Tell that to the victims of the drug lords.

> Prisions in the USA is big business & in the process
> of being privatised.
> 70% of the prision popupation is non-white.
>

At least half of those are non-white on non-white crimes. More than half of
those are non-white male on non-white female violent crimes.


al953

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Feb 4, 2004, 5:45:00 PM2/4/04
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"George" <geo...@george.net> wrote in message
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Very few of the drug lords are in prison.


> > Prisions in the USA is big business & in the process
> > of being privatised.
> > 70% of the prision popupation is non-white.
> >
>
> At least half of those are non-white on non-white crimes. More than half
of
> those are non-white male on non-white female violent crimes.
>

> 40% of inmates are there because of non violent drug
possession.


Butch

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Feb 5, 2004, 12:39:06 AM2/5/04
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"al953" <al...@xyz.com> wrote in message
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Don't confuse him with facts, thet clash with his ideology.


Butch

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Feb 5, 2004, 12:43:36 AM2/5/04
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"George" <geo...@george.net> wrote in message
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Uh huh. There is Pfizer, Lilly, Shire Pharmaceuticals, Bristol-Myers Squibb,
GlaxoSmithKline .......


Tempest

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Feb 5, 2004, 12:09:39 AM2/5/04
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Prisons have been privatized for years.

> > 70% of the prision popupation is non-white.
> >
> Don't confuse him with facts, thet clash with his ideology.

--
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a
revolutionary act.
- George Orwell

Don Ocean

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Feb 5, 2004, 1:58:32 AM2/5/04
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Does that mean we have to institute an affirmative rights program for
equality of Caucasians in Prison?

Don Ocean

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Feb 5, 2004, 2:01:32 AM2/5/04
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Still hanging out in Gay bars Butch? ;-p

Heinrich

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Feb 5, 2004, 2:19:36 AM2/5/04
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look who is talking you were a wittness?


Heinrich

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watch out don he is up to something.


Heinrich

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Feb 5, 2004, 8:57:12 AM2/5/04
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o no not another one


Steveo

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Feb 5, 2004, 12:20:10 PM2/5/04
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Don Ocean wrote:

>
> al953 wrote:
>
>>http://www.nationofhate.us
>
>
> Thats just another AntiAmerican Website! Hell it even criticizes the


I found it to be quite refreshing and very pro-America. It is, however,
very anti-fascist. Is that what you find so distasteful?


> pablum
> you feed your babies. It serves no useful purpose other then the
> practice of
> 1st amendment rights. It is this kind of advertising that the
> constitutional
> revisionist revelle in and gives them ammunition to butcher our bill of
> rights
> with. If one must spend that much time and energy forming a graphical
> add.
> Why doesn't one put together something with some real merit. Actually it
> shows
> massive Paranoid hatred by the author/s.


--
As people do better, they start voting like Republicans -- unless
they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there
can be too much of a good thing.

-- Karl Rove, The New Yorker, 02/16/2001

al953

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Feb 5, 2004, 11:19:45 PM2/5/04
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"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
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Don, if 50% of the prison population is black, in a country that has a 12%
total
black population, something is wrong with the system.


George

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"al953" <al...@xyz.com> wrote in message
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Or something is wrong with the education system. Think about it.


Don Ocean

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Feb 6, 2004, 2:53:22 AM2/6/04
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Naw..He is just lonely.. ;-p

Don Ocean

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Feb 6, 2004, 3:05:26 AM2/6/04
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Welllll! Perhaps black education is sorely lacking..And we now have
several
generations of blacks and others that have come to depend soley on the
welfare
system. In a depressed living circustance.. I would guess the crime rate
would
be higher among those condtitions. Sad to say... I don't think that is
societies
fault. Black crime on blacks apparently indicates a ghetto type living
standard.
In my area..Its the Indians.. But many of them like to winter in the
penitentary
or country jails.. The Jail conditions here are very humane and believe
it or not
they tell me the food is good. Most folks have to pay for their expenses
for living
in Jail.. The Indians do not. And many get their high school GED's
there. A dozen
universties in the state and we still have trouble with minority high
school
dropouts. I do think Judges all across the USA are a bit quick to jail
folks.
Most here are in for DWI and Drugs. Our Black folks seem to be better
behaved
then in other places. Some of them a very wealthy..We have some retired
sports
figures. All I can do for the minorities is to do some in-Pen training
in the
trades and hope they can utilize it when they get out.

Warhol

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Feb 6, 2004, 6:03:51 AM2/6/04
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"al953" <al...@xyz.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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al953 I agree with you !!!!

There is something very wrong over there


Heinrich

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Feb 6, 2004, 6:29:56 AM2/6/04
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allelujah let us praise the lord, allah,buddha,jaweh, george has seen the
light, allelujah !!! amen gloria in excelsis deo !!!


George

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Feb 6, 2004, 8:19:36 AM2/6/04
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"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Please note the CPT findings on the Dutch prison system:

"In the CPT's view, 'prisoners held in the (T)EBI and EBI units were subject
to a very impoverished regime. They spent too little time out of their cells
[from one to four and a half hours per day]; when out of their cells they
associated with only a small number of fellow inmates [three or four] and
their relations with staff and visitors were very limited; consequently,
they did not have adequate human contact. Further, the programme of
activities was underdeveloped. This was particularly the case as regards
education and work. However, even as regards sport, inmates had insufficient
access to the very good facilities available. Moreover, certain aspects of
the regime (in particular, systematic strip searching) did not appear to
respond to legitimate security needs, and are humiliating for prisoners'.
(All prisoners were strip searched, including anal searching every week).
The CPT investigated the psychological effects of the regime on prisoners,
and former prisoners who were being treated at the Dr S. van der Mesdag
clinic (a State institution for mentally disordered persons who have
committed serious offences).

The CPT found that 'persistent psychological sequelae (insomnia; anxiety
symptoms; disturbance of identity; emotional liability, psychosomatic
symptoms, and adverse exposure to homosexual rape) were clearly present'.
The report continued 'in the light of all of the information at its
disposal, the CPT has been led to conclude that the regime currently being
applied in the (T)EBI and EBI could be considered to amount to inhuman
treatment. To subject prisoners classified as dangerous to such a regime
could well render them more dangerous still'.


George

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Feb 6, 2004, 9:22:38 AM2/6/04
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> In article <VqMUb.10179$8a5...@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
> Well, the Supermax prisons in the US are probably just as bad or (more
> likely) worse in some regards. Put somebody in a Supermax and he'll be
> psychologically devastated by the time he gets out.

If he wasn't already psychologically devastated, he likely wouldn't be in a
supermax prison to begin with.

>I wonder if these
> prisoners are even safe to let loose on society by the time they are
> freed.
> (this is just a snippet, read the entire report for the real scoop, and
> I recommend googling "supermax" to find more information about the
> supermax prison system and how they are putting many non-maximum
> security prisoners in the supermax cells)
> http://hrw.org/reports/1997/usind/
>
> The management of prisoners who engage in dangerous or disruptive
> behavior while incarcerated challenges prison authorities worldwide. In
> the last decade, corrections departments in the United States have
> increasingly chosen to segregate such prisoners in special super-maximum
> security facilities. Although conditions and policies vary somewhat from
> facility to facility, their common characteristics are extreme social
> isolation, reduced environmental stimulus, scant recreational,
> vocational, or educational opportunities, and extraordinary levels of
> surveillance and control. Prisoners are locked alone in their cells
> between twenty-two and twenty-three-and-a-half hours a day. They eat and
> exercise alone. For years, except for the occasional touch of a guard's
> hand as they are being handcuffed when they leave their cells, they have
> no physical contact with another human being.
>
> Prisons in the United States have always contained harsh solitary
> punishment cells where prisoners are sent for breaking prison rules. But
> what distinguishes this new generation of super-maximum security
> facilities are the increasingly long terms which prisoners spend in
> them, their use as a management tool rather than just for disciplinary
> purposes, and their high-technology methods of enforcing social
> isolation. No longer a matter of spending fifteen days in the "hole,"
> prisoners classified as dangerous or disruptive can spend years in
> solitary confinement. Rather than looking for constructive ways to help
> these prisoners develop the ability to live peaceably with others,
> correctional systems in the United States have turned with a vengeance
> to what some call "high-tech cages," in the pursuit of total security
> and control.
> =====
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> scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.
>
> --
> Mamamia
> ---
> Christopher Hitchens, calls the man "unusually incurious,
> abnormally unintelligent, amazingly inarticulate,
> fantastically uncultured, extraordinarily uneducated,
> and apparently quite proud of all these things."


Heinrich

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cpt ebi debi what are you talking about? mossad code?


al953

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"George" <geo...@george.net> wrote in message
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> That is part of the system.


George

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"mamamia" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
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> > > Well, the Supermax prisons in the US are probably just as bad or (more
> > > likely) worse in some regards. Put somebody in a Supermax and he'll be
> > > psychologically devastated by the time he gets out.
> >
> In article <_lNUb.10414$8a5....@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,

> "George" <geo...@george.net> wrote:
> > If he wasn't already psychologically devastated, he likely wouldn't be
in a
> > supermax prison to begin with.
>
> Actually, that's not necessarily true at all.
> http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/redonion/Rospfin-04.htm
> they have too many supermax beds, so they are filling them with less
> dangerous inmates, just to be sure they fill them up.

Your link doesn't work.


Warhol

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"mamamia" <no...@none.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> > "mamamia" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
> > news:c053b69297fe95e3...@news.teranews.com...
> > > > > Well, the Supermax prisons in the US are probably just as bad or
(more
> > > > > likely) worse in some regards. Put somebody in a Supermax and
he'll be
> > > > > psychologically devastated by the time he gets out.
> > > >
> > > In article <_lNUb.10414$8a5....@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
> > > "George" <geo...@george.net> wrote:
> > > > If he wasn't already psychologically devastated, he likely wouldn't
be
> > in a
> > > > supermax prison to begin with.
> > >
> > >"mamamia" <no...@none.com> wrote

> > > Actually, that's not necessarily true at all.
> > > http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/redonion/Rospfin-04.htm
> > > they have too many supermax beds, so they are filling them with less
> > > dangerous inmates, just to be sure they fill them up.
> >
> In article <6zYUb.18257$uS3....@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,

> "George" <geo...@george.net> wrote:
> > Your link doesn't work.
> >
> Works fine for me.
>

And for me too.

Did you see that clock on that other site?

Now it say's 0 days, 11 hours, 03 minutes, and 53 seconds left until End US

George

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Feb 7, 2004, 10:26:53 AM2/7/04
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"mamamia" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
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> > "mamamia" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
> > news:c053b69297fe95e3...@news.teranews.com...
> > > > > Well, the Supermax prisons in the US are probably just as bad or
(more
> > > > > likely) worse in some regards. Put somebody in a Supermax and
he'll be
> > > > > psychologically devastated by the time he gets out.
> > > >
> > > In article <_lNUb.10414$8a5....@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
> > > "George" <geo...@george.net> wrote:
> > > > If he wasn't already psychologically devastated, he likely wouldn't
be
> > in a
> > > > supermax prison to begin with.
> > >
> > >"mamamia" <no...@none.com> wrote

> > > Actually, that's not necessarily true at all.
> > > http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/redonion/Rospfin-04.htm
> > > they have too many supermax beds, so they are filling them with less
> > > dangerous inmates, just to be sure they fill them up.
> >
> In article <6zYUb.18257$uS3....@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
> "George" <geo...@george.net> wrote:
> > Your link doesn't work.
> >
> Works fine for me.
>

Must have some lag on their web site. It works now.


George

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Feb 7, 2004, 10:27:52 AM2/7/04
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"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The dork clock indicates five minutes until Wartholio's brain inplodes from
the sheer weight of its stupidity.


Warhol

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"George" <geo...@george.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Personal testimonies such as yours can go a long way toward swaying
fence-sitters, I imagine. With as much strict analysis and discussion as we
have here, it's good to see from time to time a few heartfelt paragraphs on
posters' personal views.

Was there any particular advice you were seeking?

Check this out.

NUCLEAR WAR SURVIVAL SKILLS - ONLINE Here is the link to the complete 1987
Updated Edition of Cresson Kearney's NUCLEAR WAR SURVIVALS. Free use at the
explicit direction and wish of the late, great Kearney.

www.oism.org/nwss/

Nuke countdown clock Say's
0 days, 09 hours, 11 minutes, and 59 seconds left until End US


Warhol

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Feb 7, 2004, 11:07:14 AM2/7/04
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"George" <geo...@george.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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You see RAT, you always have to complain for nothing

The most important thing to do ... is to get closer to The Lord Jesus
Christ while He is near; with God on our side who can be against us? I have
strong faith that if an invasion were to occur in Europe even after a
nuclear strike, with God's favor, we would eventually repel the invaders -
"IF" we repented and sought God to fight the battle(s).

We must never forget that God is ultimately in charge and He will see His
Word fulfilled.

In addition to the vast information on this site and JR's site there have
been visions by many (some are far-fetched and are questionable) of nuclear
attacks. What has been consistently seen are incoming ICBMs hitting various
targets around the USA

I also believe our enemies are using pride against us; remember Pride comes
"before" the fall. (This is how Lucifer fell)

I understand your zeal to be in the military; I was both an enlisted man and
later an officer in the military for 35 years. I am pretty sure that God did
indeed keep you out of the military (for a reason). Chances are that if you
were to enter the military right now, you would end up overseas somewhere.
They don't need people like you THERE to defend our own land - if that is
God's calling for you. (Don't sweat not being in the military).

Bottom-line: we all need to strengthen ourselves spiritually for what lies
ahead.

http://www.petitmorte.net/phoenix/redalrt3.gif

Now it say's 0 days, 08 hours, 56 minutes, and 04 seconds left until End US

Go and find a safe place, Dig a hole

Husband [Watching Fox News]: Check it out, the White House was also
targetted by the Ricin .

Wife [Surfing Web]: I know. [Sound of door closing immediately after]

George

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"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It seems that a few months ago you were predicting that the U.S. was about
to be attacked by Israel's airforce. You were positively frantic about it.
Hmmmm. What happened? Did they lose their way over Brussels?

______________________________________________

"The stupid Belgians thought that poor oppressed Pallies just need someone
to hug them. After all, they practice the Religion of Peace. Now they've
discovered the truth: the Palestinians are savages. Thugs. Terrorist scum to
the core. They are probably now wishing that the IDF would have put 5.56mm
bullets into the brains of these scumbags."


Warhol

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"George" <geo...@george.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Wanna clue us in on what's going on before I nominate this for "the
incoherent sentence of the day"?

A good news of Al QEADA we started the countdown an American city will
disappear .


http://www.uticaod.com/community/halloffame/entertainment/images/use_clark_d
ick_1.jpg

George

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"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I would but he and Art Bell were recently abducted by aliens from Sirius who
plan to visit your home next. They told me that they haven't been able to
get any Jerry Lewis broadcasts from France recently and needed someone to
give them a good laugh. They also told me that they abducted Jesus because
Humans were not worthy. They took Art Bell because they needed something to
use as a garnish with their meals. :-o


Heinrich

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and of course with Heinrich !!! better buy a new computer george


Heinrich

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Feb 7, 2004, 12:41:34 PM2/7/04
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"George" <geo...@george.net> schreef in bericht
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kentucky computer the slowest there are


Heinrich

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he is longing for attention i think


George

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Feb 7, 2004, 1:04:55 PM2/7/04
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@Mailgate.org> wrote in message
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You think? How about an AMD Athlon Barton 3000+ on a gigabyte GA-7N400 Pro
2MB, 1 gig duel DDR 2700 ram, 80 Gigs serial ATA primary HDD, and 80 Gigs
Raid 0+1 backup, with ATI 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro (120 MB DDR), 24/96
Terratec DMX 6 Fire Sound card with adat optical breakout box, and adsl
internet connection? Is that fast enough for you? It sure beats that
stone-aged laptop you're using.


George

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Feb 7, 2004, 1:05:52 PM2/7/04
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@Mailgate.org> wrote in message
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>

Hmmm. Having lag problems Henkie? Have to post it twice to make sure it
gets posted?


Warhol

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"Heinrich" <Hein...@Mailgate.org> a écrit dans le message de news:
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There is no need for a new computer anymore

No tommorow for BionicRat

Pick one city, which one would you want to see disappear, LOL.

I think David Copperfield made a city disappear once.

0 days, 06 hours, 41 minutes, and 56 seconds left until End US

Heinrich

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i am not impressed !! the local discounter is offering the same p/c


George

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Feb 7, 2004, 2:15:09 PM2/7/04
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"Heinrich" <Hein...@Mailgate.org> wrote in message
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I very seriously doubt it. I built mine as a custom job to do multimedia
work, dork!


Heinrich

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"George" <geo...@george.net> schreef in bericht
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replying all your postings george. you could not afford a pentium4
processor?


Warhol

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"Heinrich" <Hein...@Mailgate.org> a écrit dans le message de news:
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He will not lie for long anymore, If that clock is right than

02 hours, 00 minutes, and 51seconds left until End US and the BionicRat

Warhol

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"George" <geo...@george.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Art Bell had to much prozak

http://www.planetprozak.freeserve.co.uk/

A Short Introduction to Time Travel

Time Travel. One of the oldest and most commonly used themes in science
fiction, and one which is open to so many interpretations as a plot device.

H.G. Wells can probably lay claim to being the start of it all, with his
1895 novel 'The Time Machine'. Early writers were happy enough just to use
the future as a worthwhile destination for their temporal travellers, for
this was an era where science was everything and the future was a land of
dreams and fulfilled promises.

The past, however, is a different matter. If the idea of using a time
machine is to simply travel to the destination and then marvel at what you
see, then travelling to the past seems a waste of time - after all, history
has all ready been there and done it. But once writers cottoned on to the
idea that perhaps the past could be changed...

There are two schools of thought here. The traditional view is that history
and time are fixed and that we simply travel along a pre-destined path
towards whatever fate awaits us. Any traveller in time could not be allowed
to change events, for to the future traveller these events had all ready
taken place and thus were set in stone. You can't change history, no matter
how hard you try!

This can be twisted in such a way as to suggest that while the
time-travellers are able to shape history, it is their destiny to do so and
the end result is still history very much the way it was recorded. This idea
is used to great effect in Harry Harrison's 'The Technicolor Time Machine',
a tale of a film crew's attempts to film the Viking discovery of America on
location, so to speak. Films like 'The Terminator' have also used the idea,
for although Arnie's killing machine is send back to try and alter the
course of history, history has all ready proved that it is destined to fail.
You cannot change what has all ready happened. QED.

Or can you? The second school of thought recognises the use of parallel
universes, or alternate planes of existence. The basic idea is history can
and has followed every possible permutation it can; it's just that we happen
to live in only one of them. What would have happened if you hadn't missed
that bus this morning? In a parallel universe, another you is finding out.

Alternate histories provide plenty of ammunition for writers; Philip K.
Dick's 'The Man In The High Castle' is a classic example, set as it is in a
world where the Axis powers had won World War Two. But back to time travel;
now we have a scenario where time travellers can change the past, only to
return to an alternate future to see the results. On film, the most
effective use of this idea has been in the 'Back To The Future' trilogy,
particularly 'Part II'.

This is a short introduction, no more. Here in PLANET PROZAK, we have two
tales involving time travel. In 'Paradox', history can't be changed, while
'Too Many Questions' offers the other side of the coin....


In the meantime the nuke clock say's

0 days, 02 hours, 25 minutes, and 51seconds left until End US

Heinrich

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Feb 7, 2004, 5:47:44 PM2/7/04
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"George" <geo...@george.net> schreef in bericht
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SO WHAT ! YOU NEED SOME ATTENTION MY DEAR?


George

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"Heinrich" <Hein...@Mailgate.org> wrote in message
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And now for a recap of our top story for the hard of hearing:

GENERLISIMO FRANSISCO FRANKO IS STILL DEAD!

Good night, and have a pleasant tomorrow.


Don Ocean

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Feb 7, 2004, 9:06:04 PM2/7/04
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Dumb fuck...There are massive numbers of the same crap sold all over...
And that Gigabyte board is a piece of shit...But then again...So are
you.
Man oh Man! Whatta windbag! And why the Hell would you need raid with
that?
Next time...Jew-Boy...Go with a German designed MB.

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