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CB makes fool of himself again Re: SESSIONS: IMMIGRATION BILL GIVES 'IMMEDIATE' ACCESS TO WELFARE - We're losing our country to purposeful dilution of cultural, language, faith and border by multicultural bigots who use race as a tool to destroy America's sovereignty
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RichTravsky
Apr 30, 2013, 9:27:00 PM4/30/13
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Ron wrote:
>
> On Apr 30, 9:37 am, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
> > Exclusive�-Sessions: Immigration Bill Gives Amnestied Residents
> > 'Immediate' Access to Welfare
> >
> > http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/29/Exclusive-Immigrat...
> >
> > The immigration bill introduced to the Senate a week and a half ago
> > would, if passed, allow illegal immigrants to access state and local
> > welfare benefits immediately, Breitbart News has learned. The
> > financial impact of allowing potentially millions of immigrants onto
> > state and local public assistance could overwhelm these programs'
> > budgets.
> >
> > Senate Budget Committee ranking member Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
> > uncovered this loophole in the bill and many others, and he will
> > circulate a memo detailing the gaps in the bill on Tuesday. Breitbart
> > News exclusively obtained a copy of the memo before its public
> > release.
> >
> > �The Gang of Eight made a promise that illegal immigrants will not be
> > able to access public benefits,� Sessions said in a statement to
> > Breitbart News. �We already know that, once granted green cards and
> > ultimately citizenship, illegal immigrants will be able to access all
> > public benefit programs at a great cost to taxpayers. We have,
> > however, identified a number of loopholes that would allow illegal
> > immigrants to draw public benefits even sooner than advertised.�
> >
> > If the bill were signed into law, America�s 11 million illegal
> > immigrants would be legalized within six months, when Department of
> > Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano submits her border
> > security plan to Congress. Illegal immigrants would immediately be
> > eligible for Registered Provisional Immigrant (RPI) status, making
> > them legal to live and work in the country.
> >
> > As Sessions� staff points out in the memo, �state laws frequently
> > extend benefits to anyone �lawfully present� in the U.S.� The Sessions
> > team points to a Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) brief
> > that details how the only requirement many state and local governments
> > have with regard to immigrant access to public benefits is that they
> > are �lawfully present.� The term �lawfully present� is a legal
> > definition.
> >
> > According to page 91 of the bill, all illegal immigrants granted
> > legalized RPI status would legally be considered �lawfully present.�
> > That section reads as follows:
> >
> > ��(4) TREATMENT OF REGISTERED PROVISIONAL IMMIGRANTS.�A noncitizen
> > granted registered provisional immigrant status under this section
> > shall be considered lawfully present in the United States for all
> > purposes while such noncitizen remains in such status, except that the
> > noncitizen�
> >
> > ��(A) is not entitled to the premium assistance tax credit authorized
> > under section 36B of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986;
> >
> > ��(B) shall be subject to the rules applicable to individuals not
> > lawfully present that are set forth in subsection (e) of such section;
> > and
> >
> > ��(C) shall be subject to the rules applicable to individuals not
> > lawfully present that are set forth in section 1402(e) of the Patient
> > Protection and Affordable Care Act (42 U.S.C. 18071).�
> >
> > In evaluating whether an illegal immigrant qualifies for RPI status,
> > Sessions� staff points out, the legislation �explicitly forbids� the
> > Department of Homeland Security from using current law, which blocks
> > entry to those who could become "public charges," i.e. dependent on
> > government welfare programs.
> >
> > �Therefore, when those here illegally who are unable to support
> > themselves are legalized, much of the immediate fiscal burden will
> > fall on state and local governments,� Sessions� staff wrote in the
> > memo.
> >
> > In addition to that loophole, Sessions and his staff found several
> > more loopholes that allow current illegal immigrants access to public
> > benefits even on the federal level before the promised wait time of 13
> > years from the bill�s passage.
> >
> > In the memo, Sessions� staff notes that current illegal immigrants who
> > are �granted RPI status will immediately become eligible for federal
> > benefits through citizen and permanent resident dependents, with no
> > requirement that they support their household as a condition of
> > receiving or maintaining legal status.� That means any current illegal
> > immigrant who subsequently has dependent children, who are, by right
> > of birth, U.S. citizens would qualify for federal welfare benefits
> > through them.
> >
> > CB
> > We're losing our country to a purposeful dilution of cultural,
> > language, faith and border by multicultural bigots who use race as a
> > tool to destroy America's sovereignty.
>
> You posted:
>
> "The immigration bill introduced to the Senate a week and a half ago
> would, if passed, allow illegal immigrants to access state and local
> welfare benefits immediately, Breitbart News has learned."
>
> Breitbart has learned nothing. It is against the law for illegals to
> receive welfare. It is NOT against the law for their children to get
> food stamp assistance (SNAP) through their school or day care.
>
> http://snipurl.com/26xfnt3
>
> "The first of the Facebook post�s 10 claims -- that "more than 43
> percent of all food stamps are given to illegals" -- is ridiculously
> false. It isn�t mathematically possible given the number of illegal
> immigrants in the United States, and it ignores the fact that illegal
> immigrants can�t even receive food stamps legally."
>
> http://blog.chron.com/immigration/2008/01/illegal-immigrants-on-welfare-fact-or-fiction/
>
> "To the contrary, undocumented immigrants are not eligible to receive
> any �welfare� benefits and even legal immigrants are severely
> restricted in the benefits they can receive."
>
> On Apr 30, 9:37 am, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
> > Exclusive�-Sessions: Immigration Bill Gives Amnestied Residents
> > 'Immediate' Access to Welfare
> >
> > http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/29/Exclusive-Immigrat...
> >
> > The immigration bill introduced to the Senate a week and a half ago
> > would, if passed, allow illegal immigrants to access state and local
> > welfare benefits immediately, Breitbart News has learned. The
> > financial impact of allowing potentially millions of immigrants onto
> > state and local public assistance could overwhelm these programs'
> > budgets.
> >
> > Senate Budget Committee ranking member Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
> > uncovered this loophole in the bill and many others, and he will
> > circulate a memo detailing the gaps in the bill on Tuesday. Breitbart
> > News exclusively obtained a copy of the memo before its public
> > release.
> >
> > �The Gang of Eight made a promise that illegal immigrants will not be
> > able to access public benefits,� Sessions said in a statement to
> > Breitbart News. �We already know that, once granted green cards and
> > ultimately citizenship, illegal immigrants will be able to access all
> > public benefit programs at a great cost to taxpayers. We have,
> > however, identified a number of loopholes that would allow illegal
> > immigrants to draw public benefits even sooner than advertised.�
> >
> > If the bill were signed into law, America�s 11 million illegal
> > immigrants would be legalized within six months, when Department of
> > Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano submits her border
> > security plan to Congress. Illegal immigrants would immediately be
> > eligible for Registered Provisional Immigrant (RPI) status, making
> > them legal to live and work in the country.
> >
> > As Sessions� staff points out in the memo, �state laws frequently
> > extend benefits to anyone �lawfully present� in the U.S.� The Sessions
> > team points to a Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) brief
> > that details how the only requirement many state and local governments
> > have with regard to immigrant access to public benefits is that they
> > are �lawfully present.� The term �lawfully present� is a legal
> > definition.
> >
> > According to page 91 of the bill, all illegal immigrants granted
> > legalized RPI status would legally be considered �lawfully present.�
> > That section reads as follows:
> >
> > ��(4) TREATMENT OF REGISTERED PROVISIONAL IMMIGRANTS.�A noncitizen
> > granted registered provisional immigrant status under this section
> > shall be considered lawfully present in the United States for all
> > purposes while such noncitizen remains in such status, except that the
> > noncitizen�
> >
> > ��(A) is not entitled to the premium assistance tax credit authorized
> > under section 36B of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986;
> >
> > ��(B) shall be subject to the rules applicable to individuals not
> > lawfully present that are set forth in subsection (e) of such section;
> > and
> >
> > ��(C) shall be subject to the rules applicable to individuals not
> > lawfully present that are set forth in section 1402(e) of the Patient
> > Protection and Affordable Care Act (42 U.S.C. 18071).�
> >
> > In evaluating whether an illegal immigrant qualifies for RPI status,
> > Sessions� staff points out, the legislation �explicitly forbids� the
> > Department of Homeland Security from using current law, which blocks
> > entry to those who could become "public charges," i.e. dependent on
> > government welfare programs.
> >
> > �Therefore, when those here illegally who are unable to support
> > themselves are legalized, much of the immediate fiscal burden will
> > fall on state and local governments,� Sessions� staff wrote in the
> > memo.
> >
> > In addition to that loophole, Sessions and his staff found several
> > more loopholes that allow current illegal immigrants access to public
> > benefits even on the federal level before the promised wait time of 13
> > years from the bill�s passage.
> >
> > In the memo, Sessions� staff notes that current illegal immigrants who
> > are �granted RPI status will immediately become eligible for federal
> > benefits through citizen and permanent resident dependents, with no
> > requirement that they support their household as a condition of
> > receiving or maintaining legal status.� That means any current illegal
> > immigrant who subsequently has dependent children, who are, by right
> > of birth, U.S. citizens would qualify for federal welfare benefits
> > through them.
> >
> > CB
> > We're losing our country to a purposeful dilution of cultural,
> > language, faith and border by multicultural bigots who use race as a
> > tool to destroy America's sovereignty.
>
> You posted:
>
> "The immigration bill introduced to the Senate a week and a half ago
> would, if passed, allow illegal immigrants to access state and local
> welfare benefits immediately, Breitbart News has learned."
>
> Breitbart has learned nothing. It is against the law for illegals to
> receive welfare. It is NOT against the law for their children to get
> food stamp assistance (SNAP) through their school or day care.
>
> http://snipurl.com/26xfnt3
>
> "The first of the Facebook post�s 10 claims -- that "more than 43
> percent of all food stamps are given to illegals" -- is ridiculously
> false. It isn�t mathematically possible given the number of illegal
> immigrants in the United States, and it ignores the fact that illegal
> immigrants can�t even receive food stamps legally."
>
> http://blog.chron.com/immigration/2008/01/illegal-immigrants-on-welfare-fact-or-fiction/
>
> "To the contrary, undocumented immigrants are not eligible to receive
> any �welfare� benefits and even legal immigrants are severely
> restricted in the benefits they can receive."
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Gronk
May 5, 2013, 7:34:33 PM5/5/13
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Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
> On Thu, 02 May 2013 14:13:48 -0600, Gronk <inv...@usenetlove.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> What criminals?
>
> The criminals who came into America illegally! They have no stinking
> green card, no ID, no means of support.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime
While every crime violates the law, not every violation of the law counts
as a crime
> How can anyone have compassion for some who breaks into their home
> country as squatters and get public services for fwee? By making them
> the DimocRAT Party's base voter, that's how.
>
> It's against the law to apply for welfayuh without being here legally,
> right? Since when does that bother criminals who don't bother checking
> in at border crossings but take great efforts to avoid border
> authorities?
Mitch Holman already educated you on this.
>
>>
>> Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> What you said illegal aliens aren't 'qualified' to receive welfare,
>>> which is true. What I said is...WTF do criminals ever comply with the
>>> law?
>>>
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Gronk
May 12, 2013, 8:02:51 PM5/12/13
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Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
> On Sun, 05 May 2013 17:34:33 -0600, Gronk <inv...@usenetlove.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
>>> On Thu, 02 May 2013 14:13:48 -0600, Gronk <inv...@usenetlove.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What criminals?
>>>
>>> The criminals who came into America illegally! They have no stinking
>>> green card, no ID, no means of support.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime
>> While every crime violates the law, not every violation of the law counts
>> as a crime
>>
>>> How can anyone have compassion for some who breaks into their home
>>> country as squatters and get public services for fwee? By making them
>>> the DimocRAT Party's base voter, that's how.
>>>
>>> It's against the law to apply for welfayuh without being here legally,
>>> right? Since when does that bother criminals who don't bother checking
>>> in at border crossings but take great efforts to avoid border
>>> authorities?
>>
>> Mitch Holman already educated you on this.
>
> Yeah? By saying what? Like what Eric Holder said, they're intitled
> wrote:
>
>> Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
>>> On Thu, 02 May 2013 14:13:48 -0600, Gronk <inv...@usenetlove.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What criminals?
>>>
>>> The criminals who came into America illegally! They have no stinking
>>> green card, no ID, no means of support.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime
>> While every crime violates the law, not every violation of the law counts
>> as a crime
>>
>>> How can anyone have compassion for some who breaks into their home
>>> country as squatters and get public services for fwee? By making them
>>> the DimocRAT Party's base voter, that's how.
>>>
>>> It's against the law to apply for welfayuh without being here legally,
>>> right? Since when does that bother criminals who don't bother checking
>>> in at border crossings but take great efforts to avoid border
>>> authorities?
>>
>> Mitch Holman already educated you on this.
>
> because they made it here?
Actually it was Ron
Breitbart has learned nothing. It is against the law for illegals to
receive welfare. It is NOT against the law for their children to get
food stamp assistance (SNAP) through their school or day care.
http://snipurl.com/26xfnt3
percent of all food stamps are given to illegals" -- is ridiculously
false. It isn�t mathematically possible given the number of illegal
immigrants in the United States, and it ignores the fact that illegal
immigrants can�t even receive food stamps legally."
http://blog.chron.com/immigration/2008/01/illegal-immigrants-on-welfare-fact-or-fiction/
"To the contrary, undocumented immigrants are not eligible to receive
restricted in the benefits they can receive."
To apply for SNAP or food stamps, a person must go to a government
office and apply for them. The government employee can check the
immigration status of the applicant with a few mouse clicks on a
computer terminal. Further, if you were illegal, would you risk
exposure by sitting at a government desk with a government employee
checking up on you?
There is no check for immigration status if you are requesting SNAP
assistance for your children. That SNAP assistance is sent to the
school or day care. No food stamps are handed to an adult illegal.
A FEW illegals may deceive the employee, but not enough to worry
about.
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Gronk
May 21, 2013, 12:09:40 PM5/21/13
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Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
> On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:02:51 -0600, Gronk <inv...@usenetlove.invalid>
>> percent of all food stamps are given to illegals" -- is ridiculously
>> false. It isn’t mathematically possible given the number of illegal
>> immigrants in the United States, and it ignores the fact that illegal
>> immigrants can’t even receive food stamps legally."
>
> Since when did 'illegals' pay attention to the laws of America? When
> they have so many gullible people to help them with 'in Spanish' paper
> work who's to stop them from filing and hoping for the best?.
>
> What's the punishment for filing under false pretences when there's an
> underground support system helping them break the law?
You just admitted they can't get them.
>> http://blog.chron.com/immigration/2008/01/illegal-immigrants-on-welfare-fact-or-fiction/
>>
>> "To the contrary, undocumented immigrants are not eligible to receive
>> restricted in the benefits they can receive."
>
> See above
>
>
>>
>>
>> To apply for SNAP or food stamps, a person must go to a government
>> office and apply for them. The government employee can check the
>> immigration status of the applicant with a few mouse clicks on a
>> computer terminal. Further, if you were illegal, would you risk
>> exposure by sitting at a government desk with a government employee
>> checking up on you?
>>
>> There is no check for immigration status if you are requesting SNAP
>> assistance for your children. That SNAP assistance is sent to the
>> school or day care. No food stamps are handed to an adult illegal.
>
> You're either nieve or looking the other way to the problem.
>>
>>
>> To apply for SNAP or food stamps, a person must go to a government
>> office and apply for them. The government employee can check the
>> immigration status of the applicant with a few mouse clicks on a
>> computer terminal. Further, if you were illegal, would you risk
>> exposure by sitting at a government desk with a government employee
>> checking up on you?
>>
>> There is no check for immigration status if you are requesting SNAP
>> assistance for your children. That SNAP assistance is sent to the
>> school or day care. No food stamps are handed to an adult illegal.
>
>
>>
>> A FEW illegals may deceive the employee, but not enough to worry
>> about.
>
> See above
>>
>> A FEW illegals may deceive the employee, but not enough to worry
>> about.
>
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Gronk
May 28, 2013, 5:01:08 PM5/28/13
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Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 10:09:40 -0600, Gronk <inv...@usenetlove.invalid>
You claimed it...
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Gronk
Jun 3, 2013, 12:01:42 PM6/3/13
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Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 15:01:08 -0600, Gronk <inv...@usenetlove.invalid>
> http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/256847
LOL Not really.
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