Box to Hide Dish Network Satelite Dish that allows function
George Hadley
Does anyone know of an enclosure that to the human eye could hide a
dish network dish but that would allow the dish to actually function?
Thanks,
George
George Hadley
ghadl...@yahooo.com
Hallerb
>Does anyone know of an enclosure that to the human eye could hide a
>dish network dish but that would allow the dish to actually function?
>
>Thanks,
>
>George
How about a fake rock? Plexiglass will also work. Why do you want to hide it?
My home wears its disjhes with pride:)
Tom Lawrence
> dish network dish but that would allow the dish to actually function?
How do you feel about rock gardens?
Randal Spencer
covers that keep snow from collecting on the dish while still allowing
the signal to pass thru the opaque material. Perhaps a simple box of
this type of cloth would do what you are after. Another solution is
those capaticance aimed sat receivers that look like square plates or
tiles that you mount to the side of your house. They are much more
attractive and less subject to wind than normal dishes, but are
ungodly expensive compared to the free dishes that come with your
system.
Good Luck
-Randy
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Deke
"George Hadley" <ghadl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Box to Hide Dish Network Satelite Dish that allows function
>
> Does anyone know of an enclosure that to the human eye could hide a
> dish network dish but that would allow the dish to actually function?
>
> Thanks,
>
> George
When my Mom lived at senior citizens housing, and dishes werent allowed (no
cable available either), I took one of those blue plastic 50 gallon drums,
cut it down about 1/3, covered it with wood grain contact paper, and slid it
down over her dish.
She had signal strengths in the 90-95 range, and no one was the wiser for
three years. Planted low growing flowers around it, looked great. Total
cost, under $20. The dish itself was mounted on a 2x3 piece of 1/2 plywood,
held down with landscape spikes at each corner. Worked great!
Deke
Patty Winter
Deke <den...@starbandmypants.con> wrote:
>
>When my Mom lived at senior citizens housing, and dishes werent allowed (no
>cable available either), I took one of those blue plastic 50 gallon drums,
>cut it down about 1/3, covered it with wood grain contact paper, and slid it
>down over her dish.
Just curious, Deke, what did everyone think she was using a 34-gallon
wood-grained upside-down drum *for*? :-)
Patty
Deke
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All of her friends knew what it was for, and nobody else ever asked. Her
quilting buddies used to come down eveyday and watch Simply Quilts on HGTV,
and visit. The apartment complex manager knew what it was also, but out of
sight, out of mind. Nice guy. Of course, I had to install it at 2 AM in
the morning, away from prying eyes. Now all the apartment complexes
(4-plex's) each have one dish on each building, with DN diplexed into the
antenna system. Each 4-plex had an antenna in the attic. :-)
Deke
AftonOkla
>My home wears its disjhes with pride:)
He is probably a Canadian that does not want to have his door kicked in at 3AM
by the RCMP police and be carted off to serve 5 years in prison for having an
illegal American dish. Either that or he is Cuban since those are the only 2
countries in the western hemp-is-fear that jail their citizens for watching
foreign TV signals.
Deke
"AftonOkla" <afto...@aol.comnobs> wrote in message
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allow any dishes, or outside antennas of any kind. We have several in
Springfield, MO.
Deke
AftonOkla
>allow any dishes, or outside antennas of any kind. We have several in
>Springfield, MO.
>Deke
That is ILLEGAL under Federal Law. They cannot ban you from having a dish. Not
even if you are a renter and the owner does not want you to have a dish.
John
It's actually illegal to restrict any Satellite Dish installed in a
residential neighborhood that is not an historic district, 36 inches or
smaller.
If you live in a townhome then you can install a Dish in any noncommon
area, with your own exclsive use.
Even if you have a HOA that specifies that the Dish can only be
installed in limited areas, if the installation places undue burden or
that this specified area can not get a clear line of sight then the
property owner can place the Dish in an excluded area.
This is a FCC rule and if you are told in no uncertain terms you can't
all you need do is go to the local Town Court and file a suit then
present the FCC ruling at the hearing and viola you have a can have a
Dish on your house. The only way to be denied is if you live in a
Historic district then the Dish placement is a hard rule that can't be
changed, but you could still put up a Dish as long as it doesn't spoil
the character of the property, under a Fake Rock. and or away from the
General publics view.
John
Deke
"AftonOkla" <afto...@aol.comnobs> wrote in message
communities in Spfld that do not allow outside antennas, period. If you
agree to live in these communities, you abide by their laws. You pay a
yearly fee, which provides 24/7 guards at the front gate, security patrols,
indoor community pool and spa, all wiring (electrical, phone, cable) is
underground, and other perks, like having the entire community surrounded by
a tasteful 9 ft concrete and wrought iron fence. Its a real rich-bitch
snooty community , that can even fine you if your grass gets to high.
Big, BIG, beautiful houses, and not one of them has an outside antenna, or
satellite dish of any kind. Of course, it has a zero crime rate also. I
drive by it every time I go to my Drs office, and I have noticed there are
several grey "rocks", all of which look suspiciously alike, in several back
yards.
Deke
TulsaOK
> residential neighborhood that is not an historic district, 36 inches or
> smaller.
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John Lodge
Wrong again, no community can restrict antenna placement. You can fight and
win this arguement any Town Court in about 1 minute court time. Although you
might rile the association after you get Court approval and be a target of the
association and get harassed, but no HOA or Community association can restrict
any Dish under 36 inches unless you live in an well defined local Historic
District and the Historic District must have specific restrictions regarding
Dish antennas. Don't believe me or others contact a lawyer or the FCC.
John
TulsaOK
"John Lodge" <JonN...@mindex.com> wrote in message
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John Lodge
Thanks for being more specific. You are right, but I don't know of any DBS
antennas that are more than 36" inches but smaller than 39.37 inches. I was just
trying to get me point across, sorry.
Although I will say that this individual seems to think that these
communities are exempt from Local or Federal Laws and this is blatantly
incorrect. Even if these communities write their own rules or "LAWS" they can't
prempt local or federal authority.
John
Doug Ashford
>
> Deke,
>
> It's actually illegal to restrict any Satellite Dish installed in a
> residential neighborhood that is not an historic district, 36 inches or
> smaller.
I believe what you're saying, but why then does Echostar require a
renter to have the landlord's written permission to install a dish?
Echostar even has a standardized form that has to be filled out.
Doug
TulsaOK
restriction on satellite dishes. I have since had that restriction removed.
However, people still complain about the placement of their neighbor's
dishes. I didn't realize that the signal would penetrate things such as
fake rocks and plastic barrels. Do you know if this is true?news:3E68A5D3...@mindex.com...
jh...@mindspring.com
wrote:
>OR...he lives in one of those anal-retentive housing districts that dont
>allow any dishes, or outside antennas of any kind. We have several in
>Springfield, MO.
The Fcc rule preempted those restrictions - in most instances for
dishes as well as OTA antennas!
jh...@mindspring.com
>I am on the board of directors of my HOA. When we moved here there was a
>restriction on satellite dishes. I have since had that restriction removed.
>However, people still complain about the placement of their neighbor's
>dishes. I didn't realize that the signal would penetrate things such as
>fake rocks and plastic barrels. Do you know if this is true?
this is true, but it is still an "UNREASONABLE" burden to require a
resident to put the dish in/under one of these!
jh...@mindspring.com
wrote:
"irregardless" of what they call them - unless these are rental
properties, the FCC preempted restrictions on the installation of
satellite dishes and OTA TV antennas when they published the rule that
implemented the amended Communicaton Act years ago!
jh...@mindspring.com
wrote:
> "...unless you live in an well defined local Historic
>District and the Historic District must have specific restrictions regarding
>Dish antennas. Don't believe me or others contact a lawyer or the FCC...."
Or if they can justify some reason to restrict it based on safety
(i.e. located in the middle of a sidewalk (8-> ) You can find all
the information regarding placement of dishes on the FCC web site with
a guideline that should answer any questions you or the HOA nazis may
have!
jh...@mindspring.com
wrote:
>
>I believe what you're saying, but why then does Echostar require a
>renter to have the landlord's written permission to install a dish?
>Echostar even has a standardized form that has to be filled out.
Check the FCC web page for the specific rules they published
pertaining to private properties and rental properties - the rules are
different. The FCC first preempted local laws and restrictions on
direct broadcast receiving antennas followed by the preempting of
restrictions contained in contracts and deed restriction applicable to
private property and finally the rules applicable to rental properties
and common ownership location.
John Lodge
Certain materials can be penetrated by Microwaves and some can not. There
are a number of companies that sell Fake Rocks and or similar products to hide
Dish Antennas.
Your Neighbors have no rights whatsoever in regards to your Satellite
Antennas placement, if the Antenna placement makes signal reception impossible
from any other placement or would place undue burden on the installation
(ridiculously ling cable runs or making an installation overly costly).
John
John Lodge
The rules I specified pretain to only property that is wholly owned by the
resident (Home Owners, as well as Townhome owners). While this is true the FCC
rules for a renter are that a Dish can be installed in or on a non common area
that's exclusives use is only by the renter examples would be a Patio or Deck.
Dish requires permission only becuase most installers are going to install the
Dish on a Structure and would need permission from the Landlord to affix anything
to their building. If you use a Plastic Bucket, and cement to anchor a 4x4 into
it then affix a Dish to this and place it in or on exclusively your own use area
then the Landlord CAN'T SAY NO.
Dish is only protecting themselves by asking for Landlord approval. Again
though you can or could do your own Dish on a pole installation and then use a
section of "Flat Cable" these are special sections of cable that can be used
through windows by opening the window placing the "Flat cable" so it goes at the
bottom of the sill and then closing the window. You now have a Dish and
installation that has not impacted the structure at all. No Holes in Roofs or
Walls or anything that is their property.
John
TulsaOK
members doesn't particularly like where he had to place his own dish and was
asking if there was a way to "hide" it. I have two dishes but they are on
my roof (the switches are inside the attic) and have had no complaints from
anyone. The complaints come regarding people putting dishes where they are
clearly visible from the street. I realize there is nothing they can do
about it, but they still complain.
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TNGTony
<jh...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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There is a link to the FCC fact sheet on this subject in the FAQ section of
the EKB. http://ekb.dbstalk.com
See ya
Tony
Deke
restricted. And I could care less, because I dont live there. My back yard
looks like a antenna farm, C-Band, Starband, and two DN dishes. My point
was that there are still some communities where OTA antenna and dishes are
frowned upon, either by deed restriction, or HOA restrictions, or the
general snobbery of its residents. Mom's government subsidized senior
citizen housing complex didnt allow them AT THE TIME I INSTALLED IT, hence
the blue barrel trick. The govt has changed the rules since then. DN
signal will penetrate the famous plastic blue barrel, and fiberglass, and
most non-treated window glass. I think I'll go take a nap now.
Deke
"John Lodge" <JonN...@mindex.com> wrote in message
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jh...@mindspring.com
wrote:
> My point
>was that there are still some communities where OTA antenna and dishes are
>frowned upon, either by deed restriction, or HOA restrictions, or the
>general snobbery of its residents.
Based on statements that have been posted here several times, YOUR
POINT is not valid and except for rental properties deed restrictions
(which are in fact HOA CC&Rs) were preempted by the FCC when they
published the rules associated with the amended communications act.
Allodoxaphobia
I've always wanted to put a plastic barrel on the roof of my house.
Now I have an opportunity....
Jonesy
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Deke
<jh...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Wow! Great! Who cares?
Deke
Charles U. Farley
That reply was almost as good as "Sez you!"
AftonOkla
>restriction on satellite dishes. I have since had that restriction removed.
>However, people still complain about the placement of their neighbor's
Tell them to mind their own fucking business and worry about something more
important than their neighbour's satellite dishes. This is when you can tell
that the USA needs a good "real" war (not Iraq but China or Korea) and another
Great Depression too. Because we have ran out of things worthwhile to complain
over!
AftonOkla
>communities in Spfld that do not allow outside antennas, period. If you
>agree to live in these communities, you abide by their laws.
It does not matter what they say. They cannot override Federal law. You can
have a dish. In fact you can have 2 dishes and an OTA antenna if you wish. And
they cannot do anything about it.
jh...@mindspring.com
wrote:
>Wow! Great! Who cares?
Does it sting that much when you are shown to be wrong?
Your point clearly was pointless (;->
Seth
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Because there are still some rules that are enforceable. For instance, the
FCC does NOT give you permission to drill holes in someone else's house
(i.e. your landlord).
Echostar wants a signed notice of permission from the landlord to make sure
they don't get sued.
Deke
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I was not shown to be wrong, you just drifted somewhere and missed what I
said. There are, right now, communities that do not have outside antennas.
I can show you one next time you are in the Springfield, MO area. Now,
whether this is due to deed restriction, or the fact that the people in this
gated community have all agreed NOT to put
up any outside antennas, for whatever reason, they do not have OTA antennas,
or mini dishes anywhere to be seen. There are some suspicious looking
"rocks" to be seen in some yards.
The original poster asked about covers for dishes.
Then somebody else jumped in saying that they were probably Canadian, or
Cuban, and wanted to hide their dishes. I simply stated that there are some
communities that choose NOT TO HAVE OUTDOOR ANTENNAS OF ANY KIND. The
thread took a left turn from there. Legal mumbo jumbo, shouts of they cant
do that! etc, etc, etc.
I dont care. I gave my solution to hiding a dish, back when you had to hide
them, and didnt want to spend $300 for a fiberglass rock. And pointed out
that some communities dont have visible OTA antennas. Never did I say that
it was against the federal law. But it may be part of a communities laws.
Thats a fact. See the post from TulsoOK. Maybe some private communities
HAVENT changed their laws, even tho they dont jive with federal law. I dont
care. If you missed some posts, check with your ISP. I dont care about
what the laws are, I dont care that they have been changed.
The facts are, you can hide a dbs dish for whatever reason you wish.
Get it?
Deke
inv...@invalid.net
wrote:
>I dont care about
>what the laws are, I dont care that they have been changed.
>The facts are, you can hide a dbs dish for whatever reason you wish.
>Get it?
Gee! You sound like you have DISH jammed up your anal cavity!
TulsaOK
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Deke
Not really. I just dont like it when threads take a left turn and start
putting words in your mouth. Of course, I'm sure you know all about having
things in your mouth.
Deke
Deke
"TulsaOK" <K...@ATT.Com> wrote in message
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> I wonder how the signal strength is.
Speaking of being anal retentive, what were the rules at your community, Mr
Board of Directors of the HOA that didnt permit outside antenna or dishes?
Were they changed before or after the new laws were passed, and what are
the rules now? And what if the community decided NOT to change the rules
and allow dishes? Could that have happened? Evidently not all your
neighbors are pleased about it, if theyre complaining about other peoples
dishes.
Deke
Seth
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It doesn't matter if the community decided to change the rules or not.
Except for very specific things (i.e. historic area, dangerous installation,
drilling holes in someone else's property), HOA rules saying "no dishes for
anyone" are illegal and not enforceable.
My neighborhood community can tell me all they want that I can't have a
dish, but the FCC says they can't enforce it and I can put it up.
TulsaOK
earlier. As for neighbors, it seems like there's always something to
complain about. Kind of like your neighbors. I'm sure you know what I'm
talking about.
"Deke" <den...@starbandmypants.con> wrote in message
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>
jh...@mindspring.com
>The restrictions were removed from the covenants. I believe I stated that
>earlier. As for neighbors, it seems like there's always something to
>complain about. Kind of like your neighbors. I'm sure you know what I'm
>talking about.
Actually they don't have to be removed, rewritten or changed - after
they were preempted by the FCC Rule they essentially became moot.
(MOOT - deprived of practical significance : made abstract or purely
academic)
Deke
"TulsaOK" <K...@ATT.Com> wrote in message
> The restrictions were removed from the covenants. I believe I stated that
> earlier. As for neighbors, it seems like there's always something to
> complain about. Kind of like your neighbors. I'm sure you know what I'm
> talking about.
Actually, I dont. Having had my fill of "neighbors", noisy boom box autos,
pollution, malls, and taxes, I moved to the country in 89. My neighbor on
the north is about a quarter mile down the road, the neighbor on the south,
well, in the winter with no leaves on the trees, I can just barely see his
TV antenna. Other than the road in front, the house is surrounded by open
fields, and oak forest full of wild turkey and deer. On the other side of
the road is a wooded hill which leads down to the river. Its a 7 mile drive
to the nearest town of 2500 people, but it has a Wal-Mart, so I'm happy.
Springfield is 38 miles to the south. I only go there for Drs appointments,
and to visit friends. So, sorry, no neighbors, thank Goat! I truly hope
you have good ones.
Deke
TulsaOK
they are moot, but why leave them there and cause confusion among the
ignorant.
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jh...@mindspring.com
>If you don't remove them someone is going to try to enforce them. I realize
>they are moot, but why leave them there and cause confusion among the
>ignorant.
It is not as easy as you make appear to remove them or any other
restrictions contained in the CC&Rs that are part of the deeds to
restricted properties.
Anyone who tries to enforce them will be quick to find that they are
wasting their money (and enriching the treasury of the area where they
are attempting to do this). Restrictions contained in deeds that do
not allow them to be transferred to members of specific races or
religions are usually not removed - and no one tries to enforce them
when a non-white or non-christrian goes to register the transfer of
the property with the register of deeds!
TulsaOK
> the property with the register of deeds!
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jh...@mindspring.com
>> when a non-white or non-christrian goes to register the transfer of
>> the property with the register of deeds!
>I don't think we have any Non-Christrians. Not sure what they are.
blaime the spell check for that one - should be non-xtians
TulsaOK
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jh...@mindspring.com
>I guess it should have caught "blaime" too, huh? And what is a non-xtian?
Anyone who is not a xtian.
AftonOkla
>they are moot, but why leave them there and cause confusion among the
>ignorant.
Because they are costly and require legal work to get rid of because they are
part of every deed. As I understand it most people don't bother. That is why
some houses still have "No Negros" clauses in their deeds even though those
restrictions were ruled unlawful decades ago.
AftonOkla
>not allow them to be transferred to members of specific races or
>religions are usually not removed - and no one tries to enforce them
>when a non-white or non-christrian goes to register the transfer of
>the property with the register of deeds!
>
It used to be an all white village many decades ago and most of the houses
there still have the "No Negro" clauses attached to the deeds. The village is
about 80% black now and has a black mayor!
Jack Ak
"AftonOkla" <afto...@aol.comnobs> wrote in message news:20030310181312...@mb-ch.aol.com...
Yeah, but there are "No Negros" anymore. The Negro race category no longer
exists in population statistics.
Doug Ashford
Oh, so *that's* what all those signs over water fountains and at lunch
counters meant back in the 1920s and 1930s? Good idea -- let's have a
laugh about this country's shameful past.
Doug
AftonOkla
>counters meant back in the 1920s and 1930s? Good idea -- let's have a
>laugh about this country's shameful past.
I guess if Jim Crow was still runnin things we'd have "No African American"
signs. Who knows with this useless ignorant fuck up we have in the White House
now- we might just end up with them!
Glenn Brensinger
>Does anyone know of an enclosure that to the human eye could hide a
>dish network dish but that would allow the dish to actually function?
I wonder about camouflaging my dish too, but not for the reason that most
people assume. Any time someone asks, it starts a flame war about "my FCC
regulations can beat up your housing regulations." No one ever considers that
there are stupid-ass punk kids in some neighborhoods who like to throw rocks
at satellite dishes to knock them off alignment. I had to go out three times
last year to realign our Dish 500 because we lost signal. Since the dish is
attached to the side of a tree clear across the yard, it's a pain in the butt
to have to drag out the ladder and hike up the side of the tree with my cell
phone listening to the signal strength tones in the living room. I'm not sure
if there's anything that can be done about this problem short of wiring a
video camera to the tree and filming the little cretins in the act. A Dish
500 is too big to cover with a bird house. :)
Glenn
Jack Ak
"Glenn Brensinger" <gl...@DIESPAMMERSDIEthe-nest.com> wrote in message news:86b47vstlm3o78ob5...@4ax.com...
If the tree is alive, it is growing and if dead it is shrinking.
Have you monitored the circumference of the tree where the dish is mounted?
Jon Purkey
hiding a small satellite dish on the ground. It looked like a large
rock, but was hollow and made out of a material that didn't block the
signal. I assume you had to anchor it the ground somehow.
Not sure if they still make them though since I believe I saw it
before the FCC regulation passed that allowed people to have dishes.
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Email replies should be sent to the address found here:
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TNGTony
"Jon Purkey" <jonp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Several years ago I remember seeing a product in a catlog designed for
> hiding a small satellite dish on the ground. It looked like a large
> rock, but was hollow and made out of a material that didn't block the
> signal. I assume you had to anchor it the ground somehow.
>
> Not sure if they still make them though since I believe I saw it
> before the FCC regulation passed that allowed people to have dishes.
They still make them.
Check out this web site
http://www.dish-rock.com/rocks.htm
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moves, which means alignments are necessary?