merger
alb
nationwide locals and one rate nationwide there is nothing to stop the
merger.
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Joe
> merger.
Except their extremely poor customer service, extremely unreliable
equipment, extremely poor treatment of customers suffering from extremely
unreliable equipment(Dish Player, 501), except them telling me and many
others we wouldn't get our extended local channels until February, except
them telling me and many others we would have to pay for any additional
equipment needed to gain those extended local channels, and except for the
RATE HIKE with continuing bad overall service and no improvement on any
service to be worthy of the term "adequate"!
Any notion of the merger getting approval in laughable, if not outright
bribery.
Mitch Benjamin
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Hey, that sounds just like cable!!!!
alb
Microsoft is the reason the problems with the Dishplayer continue NOT DISH.
Your statement of having to pay for additional equipment to get your extra
locals is a LIE on your part. DIsh never has said that and still offers the
free upgrrades to anyone truly needing them. the rate hike as u call it was
a piss in the wind compared to the fact that cable has gone up more then $8
in most cable markets. DiSH has only gone up $2 in the last few years.
I found PQ quite acceptable. If you are one of those rich assholes that has
a 45" tv set then yes it may loook bad. The bigger the tv the worst the
picture in my experience at looking at even the newest models at best buy
and circut city. WHo says your adequate is mine. To me you are one of
those people who wouldn't be happy even if every thing was perfect.
One last thing NO merger is granted or denied on the points you make in your
post. They are based on money and politics. I find your understanding of
the this merger laughable.
"Joe" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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John S. Thelman
DISH.
> Your statement of having to pay for additional equipment to get your extra
I'm curious - how did you buy your dishplayer from Microsoft? Mine came
from a company called 'Dish Network'.
Your logic means GM cars don't break, it's the parts that break. If the
engine on your new car fell out onto the road, I'm sure GM would simply
point out the mounting brackets were made by another company and it isn't
their fault. Don't be upset with GM, they merely took the money from you -
go hate the bracket people.
It's Microsoft's 'fault' is some of the most ridiculous spew posted on this
board. I don't care if Microsoft wrote the offending code - Dish sells the
product, Dish contacted MS to write the OS for the product, it's Dish's
problem plain and simple.
> I found PQ quite acceptable. If you are one of those rich assholes that
has
> a 45" tv set then yes it may loook bad. The bigger the tv the worst the
> picture in my experience at looking at even the newest models at best buy
> and circut city. WHo says your adequate is mine. To me you are one of
> those people who wouldn't be happy even if every thing was perfect.
That's an excellent point you make. All people who buy 45" TVs really are
rich and assholes. What an intelligent remark! You should really go out
for the debate team if your middle school has one.
Sean
>> > there is nothing to stop the
>> > merger.
>>
>> Except their extremely poor customer service, extremely unreliable
>> equipment, extremely poor treatment of customers suffering from extremely
>> unreliable equipment(Dish Player, 501), except them telling me and many
>> others we wouldn't get our extended local channels until February, except
>> them telling me and many others we would have to pay for any additional
>> equipment needed to gain those extended local channels, and except for the
>> RATE HIKE with continuing bad overall service and no improvement on any
>> service to be worthy of the term "adequate"!
>>
>
Damn! You beat me to it.
What he said. ;^)
...Sean.
S. Hanrahan
>I found PQ quite acceptable. If you are one of those rich assholes that has
>a 45" tv set then yes it may loook bad. The bigger the tv the worst the
>picture in my experience at looking at even the newest models at best buy
>and circut city. WHo says your adequate is mine. To me you are one of
>those people who wouldn't be happy even if every thing was perfect.
Right, the bigger the picture, the bigger the pixels will be. The
laws of physics...or something like that. I've got a 31" television,
and I must say, only on rare occasions have I noticed pixelation, but
not to the point I have to cancel my subscription and piss and moan
about it night after night on a newsgroup. It's no wonder this group
is full of whiners whining about PQ, because they can't tolerate the
TV so much that the computer monitor is the only substitute to the TV
screen.
S. Hanrahan
>> there is nothing to stop the
>> merger.
>
>Except their extremely poor customer service,
I can't really vouch for that. The only experience I've had with DISH
network's CSR staff is trying to track down the installer who was
supposed to show up to install my free dish and receiver nearly 3
years ago. The lady on the phone checked their records and confirmed
I was scheduled for an install that day, and she said she would call
his cell phone number and try to find out where he was and to tell him
to get to my house. She also took down my phone number so that she
could get back to me on the status of my installer, and said that if
they couldn't get ahold of him, they would track down another
available installer right away. An hour later, a completely different
installer showed up and an hour after that, he was gone, and I was
watching DISH network for the first time.
>extremely unreliable equipment,
So far my 3900 with DISH 500 system has been rock solid in the 3 years
it's been running.
>extremely poor treatment of customers suffering from extremely unreliable equipment
See my comments above
>others we wouldn't get our extended local channels until February, except
In my case, "No habla espanol", I can live without a couple spanish
language channels. Aside from that, I've had to suffer without local
television my entire life, which is well over 31 years. Stations from
Montana are coming, I'll live.
>them telling me and many others we would have to pay for any additional
>equipment needed to gain those extended local channels,
All the threads I've read, and DISH network can vouch for me, and
SHVIA can as well, that no customer shall bear the burden of having to
shell out any extra money for upgrade of existing equipment or added
equipment. That's DISH's problem, not the consumer.
>RATE HIKE with continuing bad overall service and no improvement on any
>service to be worthy of the term "adequate"!
Rate hike? Like what? A $1? I maybe an asshole, and I've got a "big
screen" TV, but I'm certainly not rich.
>Any notion of the merger getting approval in laughable, if not outright
>bribery.
I wasn't at all for the AOL/TW merger either, then again, I lost a few
bucks with the AOL stock I had at the time. I cut my losses and have
made up for it since.
garydw
Dish agreed.
Microsoft dropped the ball and left Dish holding the bag.
"John S. Thelman" <john.t...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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AllieVi
"DISH entered into a bad agreement."
Apparently, DISH can't hold Microsoft's feet to the fire under its existing
contract. Shame on DISH for not being more astute before signing the contract
in the first place. This experience may result in more careful scrutiny of
future deals.
AllieVi
Pastor Mac
all...@aol.com (AllieVi) wrote:
> "DISH entered into a bad agreement."
>
>
> Apparently, DISH can't hold Microsoft's feet to the fire under its existing
> contract.
The crucial word is "Microsoft". M$ plays by their own rules and even
those rules change if it suits them. They refuse to license the source
code in order to fix the bugs or provide the bug fixes. M$ should never
have been trusted in the first place. Is Windows any different?
--
Pax,
Pastor Mac
Always made on a Macintosh.
"We live for The One. We die for The One. But we don't die stupidly."
--Ranger David Martel
The Legend of The Rangers: To Live And Die In Starlight
alb
annouced they will no longer support Ultimate TV
"AllieVi" <all...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Fred Viles
>Well shame on Direct Tv for doing the same thing because Microsoft
>has annouced they will no longer support Ultimate TV
No, they haven't. Go read the press release again. Reorganizing who
works on a product is not the same as dropping support for the
product.
Philo T. Farnsworth
"alb" <a...@aa.com> wrote in message news:3c7ea...@corp.newsgroups.com...
> Well shame on Direct Tv for doing the same thing because Microsoft has
> annouced they will no longer support Ultimate TV
Excuse me? What is your source for that?
What a nitwit.
garydw
supported.
As a M$ dealer I can tell you that the Ultimate TV is also going to wind up
just like the dishplayer
"Fred Viles" <fv+a...@nospam.epitools.com> wrote in message
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Tom
"garydw" <hate.spa...@midsouth.rr.com> wrote in message
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> When M$ does this re grouping thing it means that the product is not
longer
> supported.
>
> As a M$ dealer I can tell you that the Ultimate TV is also going to wind
up
> just like the dishplayer
>
C'mon pal, give us a source for that.
Fred Viles
<_VAf8.2992$%U4.3...@twister.midsouth.rr.com>:
>When M$ does this re grouping thing it means that the product is
>not longer supported.
Maybe. Maybe not.
>As a M$ dealer I can tell you that the Ultimate TV is also going
>to wind up just like the dishplayer
Speculate about Microsoft's future intentions all you like. The fact
remains that they have *not* "announced they will no longer support
Sean
>In article <20020228075953...@mb-da.aol.com>,
> all...@aol.com (AllieVi) wrote:
>
>> "DISH entered into a bad agreement."
>
>those rules change if it suits them. They refuse to license the source
>code in order to fix the bugs or provide the bug fixes. M$ should never
>have been trusted in the first place. Is Windows any different?
Reminiscent of Empire Strike Back.
Darth Vader (Gates) "I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."
...Sean.
CMarsh7655
still provide and develop the Ultimate Tv software to third party hardware
developers such as philips and sony.
garydw
"Tom" <tmo...@nospam.attbi.com> wrote in message
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alb
Good luck you idiots who believe that Microcrap will be there for Ultimate
TV.
"garydw" <hate.spa...@midsouth.rr.com> wrote in message
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John Lodge
You can believe or extrapolate anything you want to regarding the
"consolidation of operations at Microsoft" regarding the UltimateTV division.
Bottom line is when a company makes annoucements like this, it has already
formulated a plan to slowly eliminate the division or change the product offering
and or stop, slow any further development on UltimateTV for DirecTV as well as
limit any further software updates. If I were a DirecTV UltimateTV User I'd be
running for cover especially after the disaster with the Dishplayer software.
My Opinion on this is that DirecTV will be leaving their agreement with
Microsoft and the UltimateTV as such Microsoft will be offering some sort of
UltimateTV adaptor add on to XBox so you can use your XBox as a PVR, DVD or Game
Console.
John
CMarsh7655
>Microsoft and the UltimateTV as such Microsoft will be offering some sort of
>UltimateTV adaptor add on to XBox so you can use your XBox as a PVR, DVD or
>Game
>Console.
>
>John
I agree that they will be adding Ultimate Tv functionallity to the XBox. As i
understand it the agreement isn't with DirecTV is with the hardware manufacturs
mainly Sony who will determine the future of Ultimate TV on Dtv.