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George Orwell

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Mar 25, 2010, 9:55:21 AM3/25/10
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http://utalk.att.com/t5/Features/Maximum-number-episodes-of-a-series-to-keep/m-p/100488

AT&T Uverse DVR can't control the maximum number of recorded episodes to
keep!
Every episode recorded in a series will get saved until you run out of
disk space and then it deletes the oldest recording (that somebody else
may have wanted to keep a little longer), or you have to manually delete
the ones you don't want to keep.

Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
https://www.mixmaster.it

George Orwell

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Mar 26, 2010, 8:22:17 PM3/26/10
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You can't pause, rewind, fast-forward, skip, etc. live TV on a secondary
receiver.
If you sign up for 4 TVs, you get 3 secondary receivers and 1 primary.
They all look identical, but only the primary contains a hard disk
(which stores the recordings shared by all receivers), and the primary
is the only one that can pause, rewind, fast-forward, skip, etc. live TV.

RedDog

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Mar 28, 2010, 4:19:23 PM3/28/10
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:22:17 +0100 (CET), George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it>
wrote:

>You can't pause, rewind, fast-forward, skip, etc. live TV on a secondary
>receiver.
>If you sign up for 4 TVs, you get 3 secondary receivers and 1 primary.
>They all look identical, but only the primary contains a hard disk
>(which stores the recordings shared by all receivers), and the primary
>is the only one that can pause, rewind, fast-forward, skip, etc. live TV.

No slow motion.
Crappy timers setup
No multiple favorite menus
Has Caller ID but doesn't work
No listing of hours used and avail on DVR


Jean Smith

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Mar 28, 2010, 7:59:59 PM3/28/10
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George Orwell

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Mar 29, 2010, 10:30:05 AM3/29/10
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RedDog wrote:

> Has Caller ID but doesn't work

My receivers display caller id fine.
You can even initiate the return of a listed call via the on-screen menu.

> No listing of hours used and avail on DVR

Yes.
I only see "Disk usage: xx% remaining" under
Options, System Options, System Information, System Resources.


And

No Search History maintained.
You need to re-enter your search text each time you want to search for
something.

And nothing similar to DISH Pass (where you can record occurrences on
multiple channels with one recording).
If something you search for occurs on multiple channels, you need to
create a separate recording for each of those channels.

RedDog

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Mar 29, 2010, 11:48:52 AM3/29/10
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:30:05 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it>
wrote:

>RedDog wrote:
>
>> Has Caller ID but doesn't work
>
>My receivers display caller id fine.
>You can even initiate the return of a listed call via the on-screen menu.

I have Caller ID on my menu but it doesn't work, ATT said everyone got the
software push, but other changes need to be made. Mine is still not working.


>> No listing of hours used and avail on DVR
>
>Yes.
>I only see "Disk usage: xx% remaining" under
>Options, System Options, System Information, System Resources.

Too much digging. DISH displays it every time you look at the list.


>
>And
>
>No Search History maintained.
>You need to re-enter your search text each time you want to search for
>something.

And that is a lack of customer usability

Jean Smith

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Mar 29, 2010, 2:45:29 PM3/29/10
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In article <2ri1r599vag9se98r...@4ax.com>,
RedDog <RD...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:30:05 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it>
> wrote:
>
> >RedDog wrote:
> >
> >> Has Caller ID but doesn't work
> >
> >My receivers display caller id fine.
> >You can even initiate the return of a listed call via the on-screen menu.
> I have Caller ID on my menu but it doesn't work, ATT said everyone got the
> software push, but other changes need to be made. Mine is still not working.
> >> No listing of hours used and avail on DVR
> >
> >Yes.
> >I only see "Disk usage: xx% remaining" under
> >Options, System Options, System Information, System Resources.
> Too much digging. DISH displays it every time you look at the list.
> >
> >And
> >
> >No Search History maintained.
> >You need to re-enter your search text each time you want to search for
> >something.
> And that is a lack of customer usability
>
> >And nothing similar to DISH Pass (where you can record occurrences on
> >multiple channels with one recording).
> >If something you search for occurs on multiple channels, you need to
> >create a separate recording for each of those channels.
> >

Is the Dish software legal yet? Or is it still in court for being better than
TIVO?

Char Jackson

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Mar 29, 2010, 2:59:01 PM3/29/10
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:45:29 -0500, Jean Smith <gote...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Is the Dish software legal yet? Or is it still in court for being better than
>TIVO?

Very funny. :)

Moby

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Apr 3, 2010, 10:54:19 PM4/3/10
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The larger (about 3 times larger) and much heavier DISH DVR is better
because its physical size is a theft deterrent, compared to the much
smaller U-verse DVR that anyone can put (2 or 3 of them) into a backpack
and run off with.

Bob

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Apr 4, 2010, 1:11:59 AM4/4/10
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Using that same logic, a '60s vintage color TV is better than a modern
plasma or LCD TV.


Moby

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Apr 4, 2010, 4:11:31 PM4/4/10
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The AT&T U-verse DVR can't control a neighbor's DISH DVR via UHF like
your DISH DVR Remote #2 can.
Now how are we going to subscribe our neighbor to all the PPV stuff DISH
offers?

MacBook

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Apr 5, 2010, 12:10:28 PM4/5/10
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In article
<da76edbe816132ae...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
Moby <fr...@spamexpire-201004.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:

I thought TV2 control was infrared.

MacBook

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Apr 5, 2010, 12:16:54 PM4/5/10
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Since getting my Slingbox working seemed to require being in two places
at once, I left my laptop at his house and watched him use it at home.
His first move, once connected, was a feint in that direction. I hit
cancel right away. I never realized I had so many nasty channels.

RedDog

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Apr 5, 2010, 1:10:58 PM4/5/10
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Mine was UHF
Neighbor and I always fought over the timer. :(

Jean

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Apr 5, 2010, 3:27:09 PM4/5/10
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In article <ub6kr5dv7197l2b7o...@4ax.com>,
RedDog <RD...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You can change the channel in menus.

Moby

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Apr 6, 2010, 12:33:38 AM4/6/10
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U-verse DVR can't do 'synchronized channel surfing'.
With DISH Dual DVRs, you can set it to Single mode and force all
connected TVs in the house to watch the same channel.
This is great for control freaks!

Each U-verse TV user must independently and freely choose what they want
to watch.

cditty

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Apr 6, 2010, 12:37:09 AM4/6/10
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Shame you or your neighbor couldn't figure out how to change to one of
the other numerous UHF options that are clearly outlined in the Help
section of the Dish website.

Maybe you should watch TV on your iPad.


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RedDog

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Apr 6, 2010, 8:50:26 AM4/6/10
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On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 00:37:09 -0400, cditty <cditty...@satelliteguys.us>
wrote:

>
>Maybe you should watch TV on your iPad.

Maybe you should blow me.

George Orwell

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Apr 11, 2010, 6:50:02 AM4/11/10
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In Single mode, you can pause a movie (or live TV) you are watching
downstairs, and resume play on a TV upstairs.
Can't do this in a Uverse system.

But in Dual mode, the DISH DVR could change the channel you are watching
if a timer recording begins.

George Orwell

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Apr 11, 2010, 8:38:30 AM4/11/10
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cditty wrote:

> Maybe you should watch TV on your iPad.

Anyone using PocketDISH? :)

Jimbo

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Apr 11, 2010, 9:37:42 AM4/11/10
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George Orwell;2166007 Wrote:
> IN SINGLE MODE, YOU CAN PAUSE A MOVIE (OR LIVE TV) YOU ARE WATCHING
> DOWNSTAIRS, AND RESUME PLAY ON A TV UPSTAIRS.
> CAN'T DO THIS IN A UVERSE SYSTEM.

>
> But in Dual mode, the DISH DVR could change the channel you are
> watching
> if a timer recording begins.
>
> Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
> non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
> reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
> di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
> Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
> https://www.mixmaster.it

?????

This is one of the very FIRST things the U-VERSE promoted, of course
you can.


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Char Jackson

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Apr 11, 2010, 6:38:08 PM4/11/10
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:37:42 -0400, Jimbo
<Jimbo....@satelliteguys.us> wrote:

>
>George Orwell;2166007 Wrote:
>> IN SINGLE MODE, YOU CAN PAUSE A MOVIE (OR LIVE TV) YOU ARE WATCHING
>> DOWNSTAIRS, AND RESUME PLAY ON A TV UPSTAIRS.
>> CAN'T DO THIS IN A UVERSE SYSTEM.
>>
>> But in Dual mode, the DISH DVR could change the channel you are
>> watching
>> if a timer recording begins.
>>
>> Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this
>> non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real
>> reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an
>> di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system
>> Per maggiori informazioni |For more info
>> https://www.mixmaster.it
>
>?????
>
>This is one of the very FIRST things the U-VERSE promoted, of course
>you can.

George may have missed the commercials that the rest of us have seen
dozens of times.

Moby

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Apr 11, 2010, 11:00:44 PM4/11/10
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Then there was the case of the little kid who got hold of a DISH UHF
remote, thought it was a toy, took it to the backyard and started
pushing many buttons (daily, I think) including the record button, and
caused all kinds of problems on the neighbor's DISH DVR (same model).

UHF is a bad choice for remotes in densely populated areas.
Like using a 49MHz or 900MHz cordless phone.

aemeijers

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Apr 11, 2010, 11:41:04 PM4/11/10
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Chuckle. That does bring on some thoughts of creative non-lethal revenge
on certain people, if you can see a Dish dish on their roof. I'm sure it
is technically illegal somehow, but I can't see a DA wasting time
prosecuting drive-by guerilla remoting.

--
aem sends...

George Orwell

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Apr 13, 2010, 12:45:52 PM4/13/10
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Jimbo wrote:

> This is one of the very FIRST things the U-VERSE promoted, of course
> you can.

Not the same way DISH can.
With DISH, the exact paused frame will be displayed on the TV upstairs,
so resuming it is as simple as pressing Play.

With Uverse you can't resume (upstairs) live TV that was paused downstairs.
With a pre-recorded movie, you have to navigate all the way back to the
exact recorded movie (when you locate it in your listing of recordings)
upstairs, and click on Resume (instead of Play).
(That's like someone had used "Stop" downstairs, instead of "Pause").

With Uverse, they are like separately controlled TVs/receivers, all
sharing the same DVR hard disk:

http://www.att.com/u-verse/explore/total-home-dvr.jsp
"Play one recorded show on different TVs at the same time and control
them separately."

who asked

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Apr 13, 2010, 3:28:16 PM4/13/10
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:50:02 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
<nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote with utmost skill:

>In Single mode, you can pause a movie (or live TV) you are watching
>downstairs, and resume play on a TV upstairs.
>Can't do this in a Uverse system.
>

I don't know where you are getting your information but you are very
sadly mistaken. With Uverse you can pause any recording on any box and
pick up viewing on any other box in the house. If you are watching
live programming then you only have to hit record on the remote and
then switch to the recording and accomplish the same thing for a live
program. It's done in our house daily.

who asked

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Apr 13, 2010, 3:32:06 PM4/13/10
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:45:52 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell

<nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote with utmost skill:

>Jimbo wrote:


>
>> This is one of the very FIRST things the U-VERSE promoted, of course
>> you can.
>
>Not the same way DISH can.
>With DISH, the exact paused frame will be displayed on the TV upstairs,
>so resuming it is as simple as pressing Play.
>
>With Uverse you can't resume (upstairs) live TV that was paused downstairs.
>With a pre-recorded movie, you have to navigate all the way back to the
>exact recorded movie (when you locate it in your listing of recordings)
>upstairs, and click on Resume (instead of Play).
>(That's like someone had used "Stop" downstairs, instead of "Pause").
>
>With Uverse, they are like separately controlled TVs/receivers, all
>sharing the same DVR hard disk:
>
>http://www.att.com/u-verse/explore/total-home-dvr.jsp
>"Play one recorded show on different TVs at the same time and control
>them separately."
>

You are correct that you have to navigate through the menu to the
recorded program.

P.S. Please fix your .sig spam so that it doesn't have to be deleted
when replying to your posts.

George Orwell

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Apr 18, 2010, 4:59:51 AM4/18/10
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"who asked" wrote:

>If you are watching
>live programming then you only have to hit record on the remote and
>then switch to the recording and accomplish the same thing for a live
>program.


Recording live TV and playing back is not the same as pausing live TV.
Sometimes you are watching something you are not recording, and you just
want to replay what just happened (e.g News).
Uverse should enable pausing live TV on secondary receivers.

More limitations:
Uverse can't edit/change the title of a recording; with DISH you can.
Uverse has less games (AT&T Yahoo! Games?) than DISH.
Uverse doesn't support external hard disk connected to its USB port.

Jimbo

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Apr 18, 2010, 8:32:10 AM4/18/10
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WHEN did U-Verse ever say they were DISH Network ?

Get over it guys, this guy just doesn't like U Verse and wants to slam
it where ever possible.

Instead of pointing out the positives, he just wants to point out what
it DOESN'T do.

Makes you wonder if he actually HAS U Verse or not.
Probably couldn't get a deal from them, like he would from dish.


How many of these things you mentioned might be patented ?

George Orwell

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Apr 19, 2010, 2:56:10 AM4/19/10
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Jimbo wrote:

>Instead of pointing out the positives, he just wants to point out what
>it DOESN'T do.

That's why this thread is called "AT&T Uverse DVR limitations".
Feel free to start a thread discussing the advantages of U-verse DVR, or
the limitations of DISH DVR.

>How many of these things you mentioned might be patented ?

By TIVO, or by DISH? :)

I don't think one can patent the ability to edit the title of a recording.
Or the addition of an external hard disk via a USB port.

I also find the U-verse DVR (Total Home DVR) a little more sluggish
compared to DISH DVR.
Sometimes when you navigate through the menus, the system only responds
a couple of seconds after you push a button on the remote.
Don't recall that kind of sluggishness from DISH DVR.
U-verse DVR runs under Windows CE, while DISH DVR runs under Linux?

George Orwell

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Apr 23, 2010, 12:13:30 PM4/23/10
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And more limitations with the U-verse DVR:

Sometimes I can view a channel but when I try to record it, it says
"Channel xxx does not allow recording".
Also with the Standard Definition U-verse DVR, I can only record a
maximum of 205 recordings (most of them are 30 minutes long), even
though I have "Disk usage: 52% remaining".

Any similar limitations with DISH DVR?

s.h.

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May 7, 2010, 12:30:05 AM5/7/10
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On Apr 3, 8:54 pm, Moby

Why would you want to swipe 3 DVR's that ain't worth a crap?

s.h.

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May 7, 2010, 12:30:54 AM5/7/10
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On Apr 5, 10:10 am, MacBook <goterm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <da76edbe816132ae532793aaa6c64...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,

Mine is UHF.

s.h.

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May 7, 2010, 12:32:17 AM5/7/10
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On Apr 5, 1:27 pm, Jean <goterm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <ub6kr5dv7197l2b7oav3ebketqo6q8b...@4ax.com>,
>
>  RedDog <R...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:10:28 -0500, MacBook <goterm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >In article
> > ><da76edbe816132ae532793aaa6c64...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,

> > > Moby <fr...@spamexpire-201004.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>
> > >> The AT&T U-verse DVR can't control a neighbor's DISH DVR via UHF like
> > >> your DISH DVR Remote #2 can.
> > >> Now how are we going to subscribe our neighbor to all the PPV stuff DISH
> > >> offers?
>
> > >I thought TV2 control was infrared.
> > Mine was UHF
> > Neighbor and I always fought over the timer. :(
>
> You can change the channel in menus.

You can change the remote codes in the receiver. All remotes default
to the same code. I believe they're all default to '1'. Or is it
'001'? I can't remember. I've never had that become an issue.

s.h.

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May 7, 2010, 12:35:45 AM5/7/10
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On Apr 11, 9:00 pm, Moby

Fewer people these days use 900 MHz phones. The vast majority use 2.4
or 5.1 GHz. 2.4 is unusable if you live in a densely populated area
where you and your neighbors have wireless networks running.

Char Jackson

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May 7, 2010, 12:35:14 PM5/7/10
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Many phones sold in the last 10 years have been DECT 6.0, which runs
on the 1.9 GHz band.

George Orwell

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May 27, 2010, 8:57:55 AM5/27/10
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DISH DVR excels at conflict resolution and prioritization of recordings.

While Uverse DVR has some basic conflict-resolution capabilities,
(e.g. 4 concurrent (max) recordings on a particular day, and you add 1
more last-minute recording; you now have to choose which one to give up)
DISH DVR has a way of prioritizing the recordings, so that a kid's
cartoon (e.g. an episode in series recording) gets omitted, even though
it was scheduled before the last recording you just added.
With DISH DVR, this is done by re-ordering the list of scheduled
recordings so that omitable recordings appear lower on the list than
preferred recordings.

IIRC, DISH DVR also warns you ahead of time (when you add a recording)
that it won't be able to record it because the max number of concurrent
recordings (2, for DISH Dual DVR) has been scheduled.

George Orwell

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Jun 6, 2010, 5:09:16 AM6/6/10
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U-verse DVR's lack of Auto-Tune makes it difficult to record a program
to PC hard disk.

PCs these days have a lot more hard disk space than the average DVR.

To record a program to a PC's hard disk, some people
1. Connect the output of the DISH DVR into a PC-based video capture card
(or PC-based DVR),
2. Program the DISH DVR to auto-tune to the desired program,
3. Set the PC to record from video-in at the start time of the program,
and stop after the duration of the program.

The lack of auto-tune in U-verse DVR will require those people to
manually change to the desired channel at the start of the program to
begin the process of recording to a PC's hard disk.

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