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Upgrading the internal hard drive in a 722k
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curious guy
Apr 14, 2012, 2:24:25 AM4/14/12
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The 722k comes with a 500 gig internal drive. Is it possible to
change it to a 2 TB or bigger drive? If it is, how difficult is it?
change it to a 2 TB or bigger drive? If it is, how difficult is it?
paultry
Apr 14, 2012, 10:06:34 AM4/14/12
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On 4/14/2012 1:24 AM, curious guy wrote:
> The 722k comes with a 500 gig internal drive. Is it possible to
> change it to a 2 TB or bigger drive? If it is, how difficult is it?
Why bother when you can easily plug in an external drive?
> The 722k comes with a 500 gig internal drive. Is it possible to
> change it to a 2 TB or bigger drive? If it is, how difficult is it?
an...@att.net
Apr 15, 2012, 5:34:43 PM4/15/12
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First, on a rented 722 it easier just to either upgrade or add a EHD.
Second, if you own your receiver get a 1 TB or maybe you could try a 2 TB
usb EHD
Third, if you own your receiver it violates the agreement with Dish if
you open the receiver. That is, Dish only allows a licence tech to open
and work on receivers, even if you own the equipment.
And if you did open the receiver you could be looking at a law suit. Dish
could suit you for trying to get free service. If Dish did win it would
take more than a arm and a leg type fine and you could be years in jail
too. But it does not matter if Dish win you will find yourself limited
to OTA only for the rest of you life. Because all cable and satellite
company will never trust you again with their service
Second, if you own your receiver get a 1 TB or maybe you could try a 2 TB
usb EHD
Third, if you own your receiver it violates the agreement with Dish if
you open the receiver. That is, Dish only allows a licence tech to open
and work on receivers, even if you own the equipment.
And if you did open the receiver you could be looking at a law suit. Dish
could suit you for trying to get free service. If Dish did win it would
take more than a arm and a leg type fine and you could be years in jail
too. But it does not matter if Dish win you will find yourself limited
to OTA only for the rest of you life. Because all cable and satellite
company will never trust you again with their service
Patrick Martin
Apr 15, 2012, 8:39:35 PM4/15/12
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>>First, on a rented 722 it easier just to either upgrade or add a
EHD.<<
That is true, unless the person just wants to own their equipment and do
EHD.<<
their own work.
>>Second, if you own your receiver get a 1 TB or maybe you could try a 2
TB usb EHD<<
>>Third, if you own your receiver it violates the agreement with Dish if
you open the receiver. That is, Dish only allows a licence tech to open
and work on receivers, even if you own the equipment.
And if you did open the receiver you could be looking at a law suit.
Dish could suit you for trying to get free service. If Dish did win it
would take more than a arm and a leg type fine and you could be years in
jail too. But it does not matter if Dish win you will find yourself
limited to OTA only for the rest of you life. Because all cable and
Unless the person is a tech that can work on tiny circuits, opening up
any receiver today to change anything is impossible. I have a degree in
electronics, but that was 40 years ago and no way would I tackle the
tiny components of today. But putting that aside, I really doubt Dish
could win a lawsuit against a person that opens their owned receiver. A
leased receiver, yes, as Dish owns it. But if a person owns something,
they own it. How would Dish even know you opened an owned receiver,
unless you told them? Now Dish can refuse to sell someone programming.
If Dish suspected they were trying to steal programming, that would have
to be proven. I have been told the new MPEG4 setup is hard to steal
anyway.
There are always other sources for programming other that OTA, the
internet and also something that has been basically forgotten is alive
and well, is the big dish. There are still a lot of FTA up there.
But I would not tackle trying to install a larger hard drive in the
new receivers. The work involved and what if you got it installed and it
did not work? And an outboard hard drive is better as you can change
that at will. I love mt 211k as I can just get a new hard drive anytime
I want. I am glad Dish designed that feature.
Patrick
Char Jackson
Apr 16, 2012, 12:24:56 AM4/16/12
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:39:35 -0700, mwd...@webtv.net (Patrick Martin)
wrote:
>Unless the person is a tech that can work on tiny circuits, opening up
>any receiver today to change anything is impossible. I have a degree in
>electronics, but that was 40 years ago and no way would I tackle the
>tiny components of today. But putting that aside, I really doubt Dish
>could win a lawsuit against a person that opens their owned receiver. A
>leased receiver, yes, as Dish owns it. But if a person owns something,
>they own it. How would Dish even know you opened an owned receiver,
>unless you told them? Now Dish can refuse to sell someone programming.
>If Dish suspected they were trying to steal programming, that would have
>to be proven. I have been told the new MPEG4 setup is hard to steal
>anyway.
have one, so I don't know what kind of fasteners they use. Once the
cover is removed, however, it should be trivial to remove the hard
drive, clone it to a larger one, then connect the larger drive to the
receiver. Boot it up; if it works you're good to go and you just need
to finish the installation and replace the receiver's cover. If it
doesn't work, I suspect the symptom would likely be that the receiver
simply doesn't see the new drive's full capacity. In that case, it's
equally trivial to disconnect the big drive and reconnect the original
drive. You'll be right back where you started.
Years ago, I had one of the first DVD Recorders that also contained a
hard drive. Numerous forum reports indicated that the hard drive
couldn't be upgraded, but just a small amount of investigation showed
that the drive used the ReiserFS file system. I suspect that's what
confused some of the forum participants. I used the steps outlined
above, cloned the drive to a larger drive, and everything worked
perfectly. The whole procedure took all of 3 minutes. I suspect it
would be a similar exercise with a sat receiver, assuming the cover
can be physically removed.
wrote:
>Unless the person is a tech that can work on tiny circuits, opening up
>any receiver today to change anything is impossible. I have a degree in
>electronics, but that was 40 years ago and no way would I tackle the
>tiny components of today. But putting that aside, I really doubt Dish
>could win a lawsuit against a person that opens their owned receiver. A
>leased receiver, yes, as Dish owns it. But if a person owns something,
>they own it. How would Dish even know you opened an owned receiver,
>unless you told them? Now Dish can refuse to sell someone programming.
>If Dish suspected they were trying to steal programming, that would have
>to be proven. I have been told the new MPEG4 setup is hard to steal
>anyway.
> But I would not tackle trying to install a larger hard drive in the
>new receivers. The work involved and what if you got it installed and it
>did not work? And an outboard hard drive is better as you can change
>that at will. I love mt 211k as I can just get a new hard drive anytime
>I want. I am glad Dish designed that feature.
The hardest part might be removing the cover of the receiver. I don't
>new receivers. The work involved and what if you got it installed and it
>did not work? And an outboard hard drive is better as you can change
>that at will. I love mt 211k as I can just get a new hard drive anytime
>I want. I am glad Dish designed that feature.
have one, so I don't know what kind of fasteners they use. Once the
cover is removed, however, it should be trivial to remove the hard
drive, clone it to a larger one, then connect the larger drive to the
receiver. Boot it up; if it works you're good to go and you just need
to finish the installation and replace the receiver's cover. If it
doesn't work, I suspect the symptom would likely be that the receiver
simply doesn't see the new drive's full capacity. In that case, it's
equally trivial to disconnect the big drive and reconnect the original
drive. You'll be right back where you started.
Years ago, I had one of the first DVD Recorders that also contained a
hard drive. Numerous forum reports indicated that the hard drive
couldn't be upgraded, but just a small amount of investigation showed
that the drive used the ReiserFS file system. I suspect that's what
confused some of the forum participants. I used the steps outlined
above, cloned the drive to a larger drive, and everything worked
perfectly. The whole procedure took all of 3 minutes. I suspect it
would be a similar exercise with a sat receiver, assuming the cover
can be physically removed.
Patrick Martin
Apr 16, 2012, 1:07:32 AM4/16/12
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>>The hardest part might be removing the cover of the receiver. I don't
have one, so I don't know what kind of fasteners they use. Once the
cover is removed, however, it should be trivial to remove the hard
drive, clone it to a larger one, then connect the larger drive to the
receiver. Boot it up; if it works you're good to go and you just need to
finish the installation and replace the receiver's cover. If it doesn't
work, I suspect the symptom would likely be that the receiver simply
doesn't see the new drive's full capacity. In that case, it's equally
trivial to disconnect the big drive and reconnect the original drive.
You'll be right back where you started.
Years ago, I had one of the first DVD Recorders that also contained a
hard drive. Numerous forum reports indicated that the hard drive
couldn't be upgraded, but just a small amount of investigation showed
that the drive used the ReiserFS file system. I suspect that's what
confused some of the forum participants. I used the steps outlined
above, cloned the drive to a larger drive, and everything worked
perfectly. The whole procedure took all of 3 minutes. I suspect it would
be a similar exercise with a sat receiver, assuming the cover can be
physically removed.<<
Knowing how complex the softwave is in current Dish & Direct receivers,
have one, so I don't know what kind of fasteners they use. Once the
cover is removed, however, it should be trivial to remove the hard
drive, clone it to a larger one, then connect the larger drive to the
receiver. Boot it up; if it works you're good to go and you just need to
finish the installation and replace the receiver's cover. If it doesn't
work, I suspect the symptom would likely be that the receiver simply
doesn't see the new drive's full capacity. In that case, it's equally
trivial to disconnect the big drive and reconnect the original drive.
You'll be right back where you started.
Years ago, I had one of the first DVD Recorders that also contained a
hard drive. Numerous forum reports indicated that the hard drive
couldn't be upgraded, but just a small amount of investigation showed
that the drive used the ReiserFS file system. I suspect that's what
confused some of the forum participants. I used the steps outlined
above, cloned the drive to a larger drive, and everything worked
perfectly. The whole procedure took all of 3 minutes. I suspect it would
be a similar exercise with a sat receiver, assuming the cover can be
physically removed.<<
even if I could replace an internal hard drive, who knows if it would
work? Since even replacing the outboard hard drive, there are
restrictions, as Dish still claims, only up to 1tb can be used for the
211k.
Also one other thing on an owned receiver, if you opened the receiver,
you would probably void the warranty. To me it would not be worth the
hassle or cost, especially when the outboard hard drive can be connected
or exchanged at will.
Plus my vision is not as sharp as it once was, at 63. :-)
Patrick
Char Jackson
Apr 16, 2012, 2:54:09 AM4/16/12
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 22:07:32 -0700, mwd...@webtv.net (Patrick Martin)
wrote:
>Knowing how complex the softwave is in current Dish & Direct receivers,
>even if I could replace an internal hard drive, who knows if it would
>work?
The first person who tries it will know, and it should take all of a
few minutes to find out. As stated before, the hardest part might be
taking the cover off the receiver and/or doing it without breaking a
seal.
>Since even replacing the outboard hard drive, there are
>restrictions, as Dish still claims, only up to 1tb can be used for the
>211k.
The only info I've seen lately is that drives above a certain size
aren't supported. That doesn't tell us anything about whether they
work or not; it only tells us what Dish supports.
If it were me, I wouldn't even ask the question. I would simply plug
in the drive of my choice and see if it works. The worst that can
happen is that it won't work, or it won't show the whole capacity of
the new drive. Big deal. Disconnect it and life goes on.
wrote:
>Knowing how complex the softwave is in current Dish & Direct receivers,
>even if I could replace an internal hard drive, who knows if it would
>work?
few minutes to find out. As stated before, the hardest part might be
taking the cover off the receiver and/or doing it without breaking a
seal.
>Since even replacing the outboard hard drive, there are
>restrictions, as Dish still claims, only up to 1tb can be used for the
>211k.
aren't supported. That doesn't tell us anything about whether they
work or not; it only tells us what Dish supports.
If it were me, I wouldn't even ask the question. I would simply plug
in the drive of my choice and see if it works. The worst that can
happen is that it won't work, or it won't show the whole capacity of
the new drive. Big deal. Disconnect it and life goes on.
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