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chettl...@googlemail.com

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Aug 1, 2009, 6:29:03 PM8/1/09
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Hey Dave V. You still out there. Wotcha up to?

Cheers
Dave C

David V.

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Aug 1, 2009, 11:36:45 PM8/1/09
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chettl...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Hey Dave V. You still out there. Wotcha up to?

Not much. I gave away two of my llamas to save some money on my
feed bill. That didn't last long. I'm going to buy two more
llamas. Females this time.

England is in the news quite a bit over here. Our politicians
(bought by the health insurance industry) is pretending to reform
our medical care system. It is mentioned daily, almost hourly,
how horrible the British system is and how everyone over there
hates it.

Do your politicians lie as much as ours do?

--
Dave

"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is
putting on its shoes."
Mark Twain

Burtie

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Aug 3, 2009, 6:39:27 PM8/3/09
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I'm not sure where they got that idea from. I've more than had my
money's worth out of the National Health Service. In the last five
years I've had major surgery for an abdominal aorta repair, cataract
removal from both eyes and next month I'm going to be fitted with a
heart pacemaker.

All free gratis and for nothing and with minimal waiting times and for
each a choice of three hospitals and a choice of surgeons. I wouldn't
swop the NHS for anything. The only thing that they fall down on in my
opinion is the quality of hospital food, but I can put up with that.

As far as visiting the doctor there is never more than 24 hours wait
for an appointment, its free and so is the medication. I don't know of
anyone who complains (apart from the odd ones who complain about
everything.

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Dave C

David V.

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Aug 3, 2009, 9:39:55 PM8/3/09
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Burtie wrote:
> I'm not sure where they got that idea from. I've more than had
> my money's worth out of the National Health Service. In the
> last five years I've had major surgery for an abdominal aorta
> repair, cataract removal from both eyes and next month I'm
> going to be fitted with a heart pacemaker.

They either made it up or searched very hard for the few that are
not happy. Either way the misrepresentation of the NHS was
purposeful. The Republican party, and many from the Democrat
Party are bought and paid for by our health insurance industry.
They lie about it so that they can protect their benefactors.

> All free gratis and for nothing and with minimal waiting times
> and for each a choice of three hospitals and a choice of
> surgeons. I wouldn't swop the NHS for anything. The only thing
> that they fall down on in my opinion is the quality of
> hospital food, but I can put up with that.

I think complaints about hospital food are universal. But the
politicians here do not want to hear good stories about any form
of "socialist" health plans.

> As far as visiting the doctor there is never more than 24
> hours wait for an appointment, its free and so is the
> medication. I don't know of anyone who complains (apart from
> the odd ones who complain about everything.

It's those odd ones that our politicians sought out and no doubt
paid. I heard one story about a woman that had a broken leg and
had to come here to the USA for surgery because the NHS put her
off for 15 months. I have absolutely no doubt that is either a
lie or just a tiny part of the story.

Burtie

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Aug 7, 2009, 7:27:28 AM8/7/09
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> It's those odd ones that our politicians sought out and no doubt
> paid. I heard one story about a woman that had a broken leg and
> had to come here to the USA for surgery because the NHS put her
> off for 15 months. I have absolutely no doubt that is either a
> lie or just a tiny part of the story.

Well, maybe there is just a distorted grain of truth in it. Perhaps it
was very specialist surgery that she needed, which couldn't be carried
out here within a reasonable time. If the NHS are not in a position to
sort you out quickly enough they will give you the choice of having
your treatment overseas at their expense. I've never heard of anyone
going as far as the USA on the NHS, but going to France, Belgium,
Switzerland, Denmark, Italy or The Netherlands is not unusual.

Cheers
Dave C

David V.

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Aug 12, 2009, 10:32:10 PM8/12/09
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Burtie wrote:
>
> Well, maybe there is just a distorted grain of truth in it.
> Perhaps it was very specialist surgery that she needed, which
> couldn't be carried out here within a reasonable time. If the
> NHS are not in a position to sort you out quickly enough they
> will give you the choice of having your treatment overseas at
> their expense. I've never heard of anyone going as far as the
> USA on the NHS, but going to France, Belgium, Switzerland,
> Denmark, Italy or The Netherlands is not unusual.

That sounds fair. They were trying to make it sound like a person
with a broken leg was not getting any treatment. The amount of
lies being told about health care here and abroad is amazing and
sad at the same time. I don't understand why they can't just
enter into a civil, adult, debate or discussion. They have to lie.

Burtie

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Aug 13, 2009, 5:32:17 AM8/13/09
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Since we've been talking about this I've been reading some of the
stuff printed in the US and you're right, if it wasn't a travesty it
would be a laugh a minute. Some of the stories read like a horror
movie script.

I particularly liked the one that said "people such as scientist
Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the UK, where the National
Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of
his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless." If they'd bothered
to check before opening their trap they'd have discovered that
Professor Hawking was born in the UK and has lived and worked here for
the whole of his life! I've actually heard him say on TV that he
wouldn't be here today if it were not for the NHS.

Did you know that there is actually a hashtag on Twitter called
#WeLoveThe NHS

Dave C

David V.

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Aug 18, 2009, 9:08:32 PM8/18/09
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Burtie wrote:
> Since we've been talking about this I've been reading some of
> the stuff printed in the US and you're right, if it wasn't a
> travesty it would be a laugh a minute. Some of the stories
> read like a horror movie script.

That's the sad part. It's painfully obvious they - the anti
health insurance reform people - are lying. It's insulting that
they believe we are stupid enough to fall for those lies.

I want to move to Nepal.

> I particularly liked the one that said "people such as
> scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the UK,
> where the National Health Service would say the life of this
> brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is
> essentially worthless." If they'd bothered to check before
> opening their trap they'd have discovered that Professor
> Hawking was born in the UK and has lived and worked here for
> the whole of his life! I've actually heard him say on TV that
> he wouldn't be here today if it were not for the NHS.

We have people yelling that they want the government out of their
Medicare. Medicare is a government program. These people just
want to yell.

> Did you know that there is actually a hashtag on Twitter
> called #WeLoveThe NHS

I've never Twittered. I don't even have a cell phone.

Burtie

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Aug 20, 2009, 6:19:22 PM8/20/09
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> I want to move to Nepal.

Bin there. Done that. You'd like it.

Dave C

David V.

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Aug 24, 2009, 11:14:25 AM8/24/09
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Burtie wrote:
>> I want to move to Nepal.
>
>
> Bin there. Done that. You'd like it.

I'm saving up for a visit. I collect stamps and Nepal is one of
the countries I specialize in. I'd love to get some of the old
stamps they have laying around.

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