Re: Kennie and his phantom riches
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>> ONE SUV and ONE Civic. The house isn't that small, the LAND is
>> smaller.
>>Yes, Maureen, I had to sell it for less than I wanted. Sadly the real
>>estate
>>market went belly up along with the U.S. economy, which it is said is in
>>the
>>worst shape since the depression of the 30's.
> And I'm sure it didn't help that I contacted every real estate agent in
> the
> Tampa area, letting them know that your house was appraised with sinkhole
> and termite problems. Because I knew that you might conveniently forget
> to
> disclose this to a prospective buyer....
Moore you remain a JOKE and too stupid to know you are one. Any *REAL*
Real Estate agent familiar with Florida Real Estate LAW (which YOU AIN'T
little boy pretender) would know that in any sale of a home an "APPRAISAL"
is performed for the buyer, the buyer's agent secures it as well as an
INDEPENDENT home inspection. Also today In Florida home sales come with HOME
WARRANTY Insurance. As far as your MASS MAILING goesd, Davey, that seems to
be a figment of your imagination. Although you DID amuse my agent.
> As a result, you ended up selling for $50,000 less than other comparables
> were pricing in your area. And all because you lied, and then didn't have
> the integrity to simply apologize. Great move!
Sorry Davey - again you're full of shit. The house went for almost
$20,000 more than the contemporary comps. It was less than the comps from 2
years before. Just a hint, we HAD an offer of $330,000 the year before at
an open house. Sadly our agent had a junior wannabe agent there who screwed
the pooch and lost the sale. Needless to say he was terminated the next day
by the company.
>> I wish that someday you could come close to getting some facts right. I
>> actually did pretty well in the
>>sale of my old house and the purchase of the one I have now. My wife and I
>>like it much better. You could say my wife has put down roots here. If you
>>had even half a brain you'd understand that pun.
> Is that some sort of strip club lingo? Those of us who didn't purchase
> our
> wives from some titty bar in Cuba aren't familiar with all the jargon.
There you go being the classless act your were born to be, Moore. Since
you play the grammar school fool, I have to answer your claims or you'll
claim you proved them true because I didn't. My wife was NOT "purchesed" or
"rented" Davey. She didn't work in an "Titty Bar in Cuba" first because she
was a magistrate (judge) in Cuba, and secondly Cuba doesn't really have
"titty bars" like YOU hang out in, Davey. And the "roots" comment had to do
with my wife's rather extensive landscaping. All that work is her way of
putting her stamp on the place.
>>MOE> Where's the money coming from to afford all this Kennie? How many
>>trips to and from Cuba HAVE you done?
>> Afford ALL this? All what? I took the proceeds from the sale of the
>> old
>>house, and paid for the one we have now plus some serious updating. Like a
>>new kitchen, all new appliances and such. Updating the electrical service.
>>(Changing from Aluminum wiring to copper ROMEX) adding a half dozen new
>>circuits with new breakers That kind of thing. Lots of GREEN stuff -
>>energy
>>saving, like windows, and even ultra low flow toilets. Other GREEN stuff
>>includes planting 5 trees in front, and 5 in back. Not to mention many
>>dozens of plants. Both care are ULTRA low emission Hondas. That makes our
>>carbon foot print very small Maureen.
> Too bad you haven't put as much work into making your regular footprint
> smaller. Maybe less time on usenet and more time on a treadmill, eh
> fatass?
From what I can tell, Davey, YOU have absolutely NO room to comment on
MY weight, LARDASS! Recent photos show that YOU have porked up pretty well
in the last couple years.
>>What about you? What are YOU doing to go GREEN?
>> Trips to Cuba? My wife went for a month this summer. Should I put up
>>some photos for you? Why are you so concerned about my trips to Cuba,
>>Maureen? Remember your BOYFRIEND Moore claims I have never been there.
> I've never claimed anything of the sort.
Oh Moore you constantly made that claim in 2004. I can understand why
NOW you wish to deny those claims.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>DAVID MOORE'S DELUSIONS
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>
>>> ONE SUV and ONE Civic. The house isn't that small, the LAND is
>>> smaller.
>>>Yes, Maureen, I had to sell it for less than I wanted. Sadly the real
>>>estate
>>>market went belly up along with the U.S. economy, which it is said is in
>>>the
>>>worst shape since the depression of the 30's.
>
>> And I'm sure it didn't help that I contacted every real estate agent in
>> the
>> Tampa area, letting them know that your house was appraised with sinkhole
>> and termite problems. Because I knew that you might conveniently forget
>> to
>> disclose this to a prospective buyer....
>
> Moore you remain a JOKE and too stupid to know you are one. Any *REAL*
>Real Estate agent familiar with Florida Real Estate LAW (which YOU AIN'T
>little boy pretender)
When has David claimed any knowledge of Florida real estate law?
He doesn't live in Florida, so it would be unrealistic to expect him
to know Florida's laws.
Could he learn them? Certainly. However, there's nothing to
suggest he must.
>would know that in any sale of a home an "APPRAISAL"
>is performed for the buyer, the buyer's agent secures it as well as an
>INDEPENDENT home inspection.
Is this done before an offer is made, or after?
I don't know, of course, but I would expect after an offer, and
good faith money, is presented.
If my guess is correct, your rant would be made worthless, since
you could have failed to disclose the damage. It would have been
found, but there was always the remote chance that the damage would
slip by.
Of course, you claimed you got the damage repaired. The same
damage you claimed never existed.
Did it exist or not? If it did, why did you claim it didn't? If
it did not, why did you spend money to have non existent damage
repaired?
To date, you've refused to answer either question when asked,
opting instead to rant about Florida soil as a means of distraction.
>Also today In Florida home sales come with HOME
>WARRANTY Insurance. As far as your MASS MAILING goesd, Davey, that seems to
>be a figment of your imagination. Although you DID amuse my agent.
So you LIED when you claimed the DNA from the envelopes was going
to be used at the assault trial that never happened (you made the
claim on your listserv. The very one you LIE and say I don't get.).
>
>> As a result, you ended up selling for $50,000 less than other comparables
>> were pricing in your area. And all because you lied, and then didn't have
>> the integrity to simply apologize. Great move!
>
> Sorry Davey - again you're full of shit. The house went for almost
>$20,000 more than the contemporary comps.
If true, neat!
>It was less than the comps from 2
>years before. Just a hint, we HAD an offer of $330,000 the year before at
>an open house. Sadly our agent had a junior wannabe agent there who screwed
>the pooch and lost the sale. Needless to say he was terminated the next day
>by the company.
If your claim is true (I can't think of a realistic way for you to
prove it), the junior wanna be got what he deserved.
>
>>> I wish that someday you could come close to getting some facts right. I
>>> actually did pretty well in the
>>>sale of my old house and the purchase of the one I have now. My wife and I
>>>like it much better. You could say my wife has put down roots here. If you
>>>had even half a brain you'd understand that pun.
>
>> Is that some sort of strip club lingo? Those of us who didn't purchase
>> our
>> wives from some titty bar in Cuba aren't familiar with all the jargon.
>
> There you go being the classless act your were born to be, Moore. Since
>you play the grammar school fool, I have to answer your claims or you'll
>claim you proved them true because I didn't. My wife was NOT "purchesed" or
>"rented" Davey.
You paid the service to introduce you.
This has already been established as to how mail order bride
services work.
And yes, there is reason to believe your wife is a mail order
bride. That you claim such is impossible, even after it has been
proved it is possible, gives grounds for the belief.
>She didn't work in an "Titty Bar in Cuba" first because she
>was a magistrate (judge) in Cuba, and secondly Cuba doesn't really have
>"titty bars" like YOU hang out in, Davey. And the "roots" comment had to do
>with my wife's rather extensive landscaping. All that work is her way of
>putting her stamp on the place.
Dang. I was all set to use hair color jokes.
Not to worry. Lindsay was going to be the butt of a few of them.
Aw heck, I'll use it anyway...
Lin has gone back to her natural hair color. Except the roots.
She dyes them gray for some reason :-)
Yes, she actually finds that joke funny.
>
>>>MOE> Where's the money coming from to afford all this Kennie? How many
>>>trips to and from Cuba HAVE you done?
>
>>> Afford ALL this? All what? I took the proceeds from the sale of the
>>> old
>>>house, and paid for the one we have now plus some serious updating. Like a
>>>new kitchen, all new appliances and such. Updating the electrical service.
>>>(Changing from Aluminum wiring to copper ROMEX) adding a half dozen new
>>>circuits with new breakers That kind of thing. Lots of GREEN stuff -
>>>energy
>>>saving, like windows, and even ultra low flow toilets. Other GREEN stuff
>>>includes planting 5 trees in front, and 5 in back. Not to mention many
>>>dozens of plants. Both care are ULTRA low emission Hondas. That makes our
>>>carbon foot print very small Maureen.
>
>> Too bad you haven't put as much work into making your regular footprint
>> smaller. Maybe less time on usenet and more time on a treadmill, eh
>> fatass?
>
> From what I can tell, Davey, YOU have absolutely NO room to comment on
>MY weight, LARDASS! Recent photos show that YOU have porked up pretty well
>in the last couple years.
>
The problem is, you don't have any pictures of the David Moore to
whom you replied. Feel free to prove you do (I, and probably some
others, will know instantly if the pictures are of the David Moore we
know), unless you would rather admit you're lying.
>>>What about you? What are YOU doing to go GREEN?
>
>>> Trips to Cuba? My wife went for a month this summer. Should I put up
>>>some photos for you? Why are you so concerned about my trips to Cuba,
>>>Maureen? Remember your BOYFRIEND Moore claims I have never been there.
>
>> I've never claimed anything of the sort.
>
>
> Oh Moore you constantly made that claim in 2004. I can understand why
>NOW you wish to deny those claims.
>
He, like most everyone else, has claimed you didn't go when you
said you did. That's not the same as claiming you've never gone. Not
to the sober mind.
YMMV, of course.
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn claiming in misc.legal that David Moore can
and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
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krp
"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> ONE SUV and ONE Civic. The house isn't that small, the LAND is
>>>> smaller.
>>>>Yes, Maureen, I had to sell it for less than I wanted. Sadly the real
>>>>estate
>>>>market went belly up along with the U.S. economy, which it is said is in
>>>>the worst shape since the depression of the 30's.
>>> And I'm sure it didn't help that I contacted every real estate agent in
>>> the
>>> Tampa area, letting them know that your house was appraised with
>>> sinkhole
>>> and termite problems. Because I knew that you might conveniently forget
>>> to disclose this to a prospective buyer....
(Correcting MOORE again - actually the court appraiser in my divorce said
there was NOT a sinkhole NOR were there any termites.) Davey keeps
forgetting that part. Well, he just LIES about it because that IS in the
text of the Order of the court whic h will now DISAPPEAR from Moore's
website.
>> Moore you remain a JOKE and too stupid to know you are one. Any *REAL*
>>Real Estate agent familiar with Florida Real Estate LAW (which YOU AIN'T
>>little boy pretender)
> When has David claimed any knowledge of Florida real estate law?
`He has claime to be a BIG TIME REAL ESTATE MAGNATE! He claims to KNOW
it all.
> He doesn't live in Florida, so it would be unrealistic to expect him
> to know Florida's laws.
He also is NOT a Real Estate Agent.
> Could he learn them? Certainly. However, there's nothing to
> suggest he must.
Just is frequent CLAIMS regarding Real Estate LAW.
>>would know that in any sale of a home an "APPRAISAL"
>>is performed for the buyer, the buyer's agent secures it as well as an
>>INDEPENDENT home inspection.
> Is this done before an offer is made, or after?
Actually a Buyer's agent gets the facts BEFORE a written offer is made.
Even IF the buyer has a BAD agent, LAW demands that the information be
completed BEFORE a loan can be processed. That means an INDEPENDENT
appraisal and HOME INSPECTION. In the case of the sale of my former home
there were actually TWO independent inspections and TWO appraisale because
the mortgage broker didn't process the paperwork in time and the first ones
expired.
> I don't know, of course, but I would expect after an offer, and
> good faith money, is presented.
YOU wouldf suspect it, Kunt, but YOU are a "stupid Polack."
> If my guess is correct, your rant would be made worthless, since
> you could have failed to disclose the damage. It would have been
> found, but there was always the remote chance that the damage would
> slip by.
NOT A PRAYER under current Florida law. 10 or 20 years ago, MAYBE if the
buyer and his agent were stupid. NOT today. You just seem INCAPABLE of
understanding that an INDEPENDENT appraisal and INDEPENDENT home inspection
are REQUIRED before a loan can begin processing. Ask somebody with more
patience than I have to explain that to you.
> Of course, you claimed you got the damage repaired. The same
> damage you claimed never existed.
Oh Kunt how you love to LIE. I said what WAS found was some soil
movement due mainly to erosion. Since you are a STUPID POLACK and have NO
grasp of ANY facts, you wouldn't know thew soil conditions in this pat of
Florida. Largley most of Florida is little more than a sand bar. Parts
aren't, but muhc of it is. In this part of Florida the soil is what is
called "sugar sand." It is a very porous material. It loves to move when we
have extreme rainfall. Which was the case. Sadly when you mix INSURANCE LAW
into other things you get to calling something a "SINKHOLE" that really is
NOT a sinkhole. 4 Different enginering companies all agreed there was NO
sinkhole by my former house. That was documented each time with "ground
penetrating radar." However to re-insure the home I had to get an engineer
to "repair" the problem. Which meant placing some concrete PINS at strategic
points near the back of the house, and a skirt. That stopped the erosion
and the enginering company CERTIFIED that the needed repairs were made. Now
my NEIGHBORS had different engineers than I did. Those companies pumped TONS
of grout (cement) under their homes. They had MAJOR problems afterward. We
had NONE. One of the houses nearly collapsed into a hole because of all the
weight under the house was causing the ground to collapse.
> Did it exist or not? If it did, why did you claim it didn't? If
> it did not, why did you spend money to have non existent damage
> repaired?
> To date, you've refused to answer either question when asked,
> opting instead to rant about Florida soil as a means of distraction.
Oh well I can't explain it to a STUPID Polack. There never was what a
LAYMAN thinks a sinkhole is on my former property. There WAS soil movement.
For legal purposes with the Insurance companies it was CALLED by the legal
system a "sinkhole" even though it wasn't one. I am not a stupid Polack like
you, and I don't think I am God, like you, and I can't order everyone to use
the words *I* would like. The insurance company wound up paying for the
claim. Both they and I knew it was NOT a "sinkhole." But they wouldn't pay
unless the legal system said it was, ven though their policy said they
should.
>>Also today In Florida home sales come with HOME
>>WARRANTY Insurance. As far as your MASS MAILING goesd, Davey, that seems
>>to
>>be a figment of your imagination. Although you DID amuse my agent.
> So you LIED when you claimed the DNA from the envelopes was going
> to be used at the assault trial that never happened (you made the
> claim on your listserv. The very one you LIE and say I don't get.).
I said it COULD be.
Kent Wills
wrote:
[...]
>>>> And I'm sure it didn't help that I contacted every real estate agent in
>>>> the
>>>> Tampa area, letting them know that your house was appraised with
>>>> sinkhole
>>>> and termite problems. Because I knew that you might conveniently forget
>>>> to disclose this to a prospective buyer....
>
>(Correcting MOORE again - actually the court appraiser in my divorce said
>there was NOT a sinkhole NOR were there any termites.)
Please explain why you paid to have non-existent damage repaired.
You claimed the problems were all fixed. Even with insurance, there's
a deductible the home owner pays.
>Davey keeps
>forgetting that part. Well, he just LIES about it because that IS in the
>text of the Order of the court whic h will now DISAPPEAR from Moore's
>website.
Everything he had two years ago is still there. There's nothing
I've seen about termites or sinkholes listed in the papers he has
scanned.
Are you so drunk you're seeing that which isn't there?
>
>>> Moore you remain a JOKE and too stupid to know you are one. Any *REAL*
>>>Real Estate agent familiar with Florida Real Estate LAW (which YOU AIN'T
>>>little boy pretender)
>
>> When has David claimed any knowledge of Florida real estate law?
>
> `He has claime to be a BIG TIME REAL ESTATE MAGNATE! He claims to KNOW
>it all.
He's made no such claim.
>
>> He doesn't live in Florida, so it would be unrealistic to expect him
>> to know Florida's laws.
>
> He also is NOT a Real Estate Agent.
>
Prove he lied, unless his claim is truth.
>> Could he learn them? Certainly. However, there's nothing to
>> suggest he must.
>
> Just is frequent CLAIMS regarding Real Estate LAW.
>
I've seen very few claims from him regarding real estate law.
When he has commented, the comments have been very general.
That aside, how does any claims or comments he's made suggest he
must learn Florida real estate law, as you demand above?
>
>>>would know that in any sale of a home an "APPRAISAL"
>>>is performed for the buyer, the buyer's agent secures it as well as an
>>>INDEPENDENT home inspection.
>
>> Is this done before an offer is made, or after?
>
> Actually a Buyer's agent gets the facts BEFORE a written offer is made.
>Even IF the buyer has a BAD agent, LAW demands that the information be
>completed BEFORE a loan can be processed. That means an INDEPENDENT
>appraisal and HOME INSPECTION. In the case of the sale of my former home
>there were actually TWO independent inspections and TWO appraisale because
>the mortgage broker didn't process the paperwork in time and the first ones
>expired.
>
>> I don't know, of course, but I would expect after an offer, and
>> good faith money, is presented.
>
> YOU wouldf suspect it, Kunt, but YOU are a "stupid Polack."
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/race.html
You're a bigot. This is old news.
That you HATE minorities has been so completely proved there's no
need for you to offer more proof. It's nice that you want to ensure
any and all potential clients will see that you are a bigot, but the
proof of it, consisting of your own posts, is so widely available,
there's no longer a need.
>
>> If my guess is correct, your rant would be made worthless, since
>> you could have failed to disclose the damage. It would have been
>> found, but there was always the remote chance that the damage would
>> slip by.
>
> NOT A PRAYER under current Florida law. 10 or 20 years ago, MAYBE if the
>buyer and his agent were stupid. NOT today. You just seem INCAPABLE of
>understanding that an INDEPENDENT appraisal and INDEPENDENT home inspection
>are REQUIRED before a loan can begin processing.
IF it slipped by, as you have proved, multiple times, you hoped
would happen, it wouldn't matter.
But then, you're now claiming you spent money to repair problems
that didn't exist.
>Ask somebody with more
>patience than I have to explain that to you.
>
You mean ask someone sober, right? The truth is, you're too
drunk, again, to explain anything to anyone.
>
>> Of course, you claimed you got the damage repaired. The same
>> damage you claimed never existed.
>
> Oh Kunt how you love to LIE. I said what WAS found was some soil
>movement due mainly to erosion.
Liar.
>Since you are a STUPID POLACK and have NO
>grasp of ANY facts, you wouldn't know thew soil conditions in this pat of
>Florida.
David comment about sink holes. You replied with (paraphrased),
"Nope. Got them all fixed."
Maybe you were so drunk you didn't realize what David wrote or
what you admitted in your reply?
>Largley most of Florida is little more than a sand bar. Parts
>aren't, but muhc of it is. In this part of Florida the soil is what is
>called "sugar sand." It is a very porous material. It loves to move when we
>have extreme rainfall. Which was the case. Sadly when you mix INSURANCE LAW
>into other things you get to calling something a "SINKHOLE" that really is
>NOT a sinkhole. 4 Different enginering companies all agreed there was NO
>sinkhole by my former house. That was documented each time with "ground
>penetrating radar." However to re-insure the home I had to get an engineer
>to "repair" the problem. Which meant placing some concrete PINS at strategic
>points near the back of the house, and a skirt. That stopped the erosion
>and the enginering company CERTIFIED that the needed repairs were made. Now
>my NEIGHBORS had different engineers than I did. Those companies pumped TONS
>of grout (cement) under their homes. They had MAJOR problems afterward. We
>had NONE. One of the houses nearly collapsed into a hole because of all the
>weight under the house was causing the ground to collapse.
Again you rant about soil as a means to distract from the truth. I
doubt anyone is falling for it.
>
>> Did it exist or not? If it did, why did you claim it didn't? If
>> it did not, why did you spend money to have non existent damage
>> repaired?
>> To date, you've refused to answer either question when asked,
>> opting instead to rant about Florida soil as a means of distraction.
>
> Oh well I can't explain it to a STUPID Polack.
I wasn't aware you're Polish or that you were trying to explain it
to yourself.
>There never was what a
>LAYMAN thinks a sinkhole is on my former property.
Yet you claimed to have gotten them (plural) fixed.
>There WAS soil movement.
>For legal purposes with the Insurance companies it was CALLED by the legal
>system a "sinkhole" even though it wasn't one. I am not a stupid Polack like
>you, and I don't think I am God, like you, and I can't order everyone to use
>the words *I* would like.
Funny. There were, and were not sinkholes.
You should pick a lane. playing word games doesn't impress me at
all. I doubt your game impresses anyone else.
>The insurance company wound up paying for the
>claim. Both they and I knew it was NOT a "sinkhole." But they wouldn't pay
>unless the legal system said it was, ven though their policy said they
>should.
>
>>>Also today In Florida home sales come with HOME
>>>WARRANTY Insurance. As far as your MASS MAILING goesd, Davey, that seems
>>>to be a figment of your imagination. Although you DID amuse my agent.
>
>> So you LIED when you claimed the DNA from the envelopes was going
>> to be used at the assault trial that never happened (you made the
>> claim on your listserv. The very one you LIE and say I don't get.).
>
> I said it COULD be.
No, you said the DNA was going to be used. But that's not the
important part here. What is important is that you used the word
envelopes. Plural.
In previous posts you claim David wrote your agent once. Unless
that was one of your drunken lies, he must have written others agents
as well.
"(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"
Kenneth Robert Pangborn admitting he alters the context of posts
when he replies.
MID FyUom.1363$Jd7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> >> > >>>>>> That you are unable to afford one doesn't make it as bad as
>>> >> > >>>>>> =
> you
>>> >> > >>>>>> claim.
>>>
>>> >LIT> > >>>>>I paid much more for my Kia Rio than the PTs are going for
>>> >around here.
>>> >> > >>>>>Not terribly expensive cars.
>>>
>>> >DDM> > >>>>It was a decent "get you around" car for my wife, for
>>> >miscellaneous errands
>>> >> > >>>>such as shopping, PTA etc. rather than driving a gas-guzzling
>>> >> > >>>>S=
> UV
>>> >> > >>>>around.
>>> >> > >>>>It did seem to blow fuses a little more than normal during its
>>> >> > >>>>lifetime
>>> >> > >>>>though. We'd gotten to the point of outgrowing it anyway, even
>>> >> > >>>>before it
>>> >> > >>>>became scrapyard material.
>>>
>>> >> > >>> I think you missed Betty's point. It's not an expensive
>>> >> > >>> vehicle=
> , and
>>> >> > >>> still it's too pricey for
>>> > > >>> Pangborn.
>>>
>>> >> > >>What of a 2008 Honda CRV bought new?
>>>
>>> >> > > If you can't afford a PT Cruiser, you don't stand a chance of
>>> >> > > get=
> ting
>>> >> > > the CRV.
>>> >> > > If you're going to claim you own one, you'll need to offer
>>> >> > > someth=
> ing
>>> >> > > in the way of proof.
>>>
>>> >> > I bought one NEW in 2008. PROOF? There is NO proof that a RETARD
>>> >> > li=
> ke
>>> >> > YOU would understand. Want the original window sticker off it in a
>>> >> > =
> scan?
>>> >> > A
>>> >> > photo?
>>>
>>> >> The bill of sale and registration paper when you got the vehicle
>>> >> licensed are proof enough Kennie.
>>>
>>> >> THE SCAN OF IT, Maureen?
>>>
>>> >MOE> =A0 =A0Here's what I like to know. You filed for bankruptcy some
>>> >y=
> ears
>>> >MOE> ago, had to sell you old decrepit home for less than you wanted,
>>> >a=
> nd
>>> >MOE> yet you claim you not only own =A0your current SMALL home but you
>>> >=
> have
>>> >MOE> two SUVs and a 2009 Civic?
>>>
>>> > =A0 =A0ONE SUV and ONE Civic. The house isn't that small, the LAND is
>>> > =
> smaller.
>>> >Yes, Maureen, I had to sell it for less than I wanted. Sadly the real
> state
>>> >market went belly up along with the U.S. economy, which it is said is
> n the
>>> >worst shape since the depression of the 30's.
>>>
> the
>>> Tampa area, letting them know that your house was appraised with
> e
>>> and termite problems. =A0Because I knew that you might conveniently
>>> forg=
> et to
>>> disclose this to a prospective buyer....
>>>
> s
>>> were pricing in your area. =A0And all because you lied, and then didn't
>>> =
> have
>>> the integrity to simply apologize. =A0Great move!
>>>
>>> > I wish that someday you could
>>> >come close to getting some facts right. I actually did pretty well in
> he
>>> >sale of my old house and the purchase of the one I have now. My wife
> d I
>>> >like it much better. You could say my wife has put down roots here. If
> you
>>> >had even half a brain you'd understand that pun.
>>>
>>> purchas=
> e our
>>> wives from some titty bar in Cuba aren't familiar with all the jargon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >=A0How=
> many
>>> >trips to and from Cuba HAVE you done?
>>>
>>> > of=
> the old
>>> >house, and paid for the one we have now plus some serious updating.
> e a
>>> >new kitchen, all new appliances and such. Updating the electrical
> ce.
>>> >(Changing from Aluminum wiring to copper ROMEX) adding a half dozen
>
>>> >circuits with new breakers That kind of thing. Lots of GREEN stuff -
> ergy
>>> >saving, like windows, and even ultra low flow toilets. =A0Other GREEN
>>> >s=
> tuff
>>> >includes planting 5 trees in front, and 5 in back. Not to mention many
>>> >dozens of plants. Both care are ULTRA low emission Hondas. That makes
> ur
>>> >carbon foot print very small Maureen.
>>>
>>> Too bad you haven't put as much work into making your regular footprint
>>> fatass?
>>>
>>> >What about you? What are YOU doing to
>>> >go GREEN?
>>>
>>> > p=
> ut up
>>> >some photos for you? Why are you so concerned about my trips to Cuba,
>>> >Maureen? Remember your BOYFRIEND Moore claims I have never been there.
>>>
>>> desp=
> ite
>>> the fact that we share the view that you're a piece of crap. =A0(No
>>> offe=
> nse,
>>> Maureen, but I'm happily married.)
>>
>>No offense taken. I have a man friend of my own and he satisfies me
>>quite well. Kennie and his butt monkey greg enjoy themselves imagining
>>me to be some sort of loose female. Though how can Kennie claim you
>>are gay while at the same time claim I'm you're girlfriend seems to be
>>a huge contradiction.
> You're just one of many, according to him. He has claimed that at least
> four other women have accepted my marriage proposal at one time or
> another.
Amazing how ther can be so many stupid women. But we can see the women
by the hundreds who propose to men on death row every year. All but two of
them found you out before it was too late, Davey.
> He claims that I have two ex-wives, then claims that a woman from Indiana
> and another from California are or were engaged to me. And now there's
> you. In other words, I must have amazing prowess... definitely doesn't
> fit
> in with the description of someone who is "gay"....
> But then again, we all know how Ken loves to project....
As it has been said; "you can fool all of the people some of the time,
you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you CANNOT fool all of
the people all of the time, Davey." So far, lately. women catch your scent
early enough to save themselves, and your little BLACKMAIL gig isn't working
so well to get women in bed any more. As to any men interested in MZ.
McAllister, they should be charged with bestiality.
freedom
Actually, your statement about me being engaged to four different women was
a lie....a result of your complete inability to dig up ANY accurate
information on me.
>
>> He claims that I have two ex-wives, then claims that a woman from Indiana
>> and another from California are or were engaged to me. And now there's
>> you. In other words, I must have amazing prowess... definitely doesn't
>> fit
>> in with the description of someone who is "gay"....
>
>> But then again, we all know how Ken loves to project....
>
> As it has been said; "you can fool all of the people some of the time,
>you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you CANNOT fool all of
>the people all of the time, Davey." So far, lately. women catch your scent
>early enough to save themselves,
And yet I've been married to the same woman for well over a decade.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
--Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
--Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
--Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
--Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to claim
that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
> Nobody from Calumet City Illinois wrote the message you're replying to.
Just YOU little Davey! JUST YOU!
I've gotten loads of info on you, Moore, you'd be surprised to know how
many people you know have been a constant flow of information. Some you
think are really on your side, and I am not referring to the ones YOU
create. Although, Davey, even those contain information about you you don't
intend for me to pick up on.
>>> He claims that I have two ex-wives, then claims that a woman from
>>> Indiana
>>> and another from California are or were engaged to me. And now there's
>>> you. In other words, I must have amazing prowess... definitely doesn't
>>> fit
>>> in with the description of someone who is "gay"....
>>
>>> But then again, we all know how Ken loves to project....
>>
>> As it has been said; "you can fool all of the people some of the time,
>>you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you CANNOT fool all
>>of
>>the people all of the time, Davey." So far, lately. women catch your scent
>>early enough to save themselves,
> And yet I've been married to the same woman for well over a decade.
BULLSHIT! I've seen the divorce paperwork from Missouri - DEADBEAT!
Kent Wills
wrote:
[snips for brevity]
>DAVID MOORE INTERNET CRACKPOT
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:bdfa6b7887cb767a...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
>> Nobody from Calumet City Illinois wrote the message you're replying to.
>
> Just YOU little Davey! JUST YOU!
>
Except the David Moore from Calumet City isn't the same one we
know. This has been proved.
>>>
>>>> You're just one of many, according to him. He has claimed that at least
>>>> four other women have accepted my marriage proposal at one time or
>>>> another.
>>>
>>> Amazing how ther can be so many stupid women. But we can see the women
>>>by the hundreds who propose to men on death row every year. All but two of
>>>them found you out before it was too late, Davey.
>
>> Actually, your statement about me being engaged to four different women
>> was
>> a lie....a result of your complete inability to dig up ANY accurate
>> information on me.
>
> I've gotten loads of info on you, Moore,
To date, none of it, aside from his first and last name, has been
accurate.
I happen to KNOW the pictures you have are not of the David Moore
we know, if they are of anyone named David Moore at all.
>you'd be surprised to know how
>many people you know have been a constant flow of information.
None? That's my guess.
>Some you
>think are really on your side, and I am not referring to the ones YOU
>create. Although, Davey, even those contain information about you you don't
>intend for me to pick up on.
When has David ever posted while not making certain everyone is
aware it's him?
[...]
>>>> in with the description of someone who is "gay"....
>>>
>>>> But then again, we all know how Ken loves to project....
>>>
>>> As it has been said; "you can fool all of the people some of the time,
>>>you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you CANNOT fool all
>>>of
>>>the people all of the time, Davey." So far, lately. women catch your scent
>>>early enough to save themselves,
>
>> And yet I've been married to the same woman for well over a decade.
>
> BULLSHIT! I've seen the divorce paperwork from Missouri - DEADBEAT!
>
I don't know how long David and his wife have been married (I've
never had cause to check their marriage license), but given the age of
their oldest child, a decade or more is certainly plausible.
krp
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:19:29 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> [snips for brevity]
>
>>DAVID MOORE INTERNET CRACKPOT
>>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>>news:bdfa6b7887cb767a...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>
>>> Nobody from Calumet City Illinois wrote the message you're replying to.
>>
>> Just YOU little Davey! JUST YOU!
>>
>
> Except the David Moore from Calumet City isn't the same one we
> know. This has been proved.
Except, Kunt Wills, you are lying your ass off. It's OUR Davey, your lies
are laughable.
womanGoddess
> "freedom" <aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
Well since YOU and GREG seem SOOOOOOO interested in me.........
(( laughing))
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Kent Wills
wrote:
>TWICE CONVICTED FELON
You really need to stop your MASSIVE consumption of alcohol,
Pangborn. It still compels you to claim that which you KNOW is not
true.
I've already proved, via the mug shot of the David Moore who
lived (maybe still lives) in Calumet City. The David we know wouldn't
fit into the racial demographic of black. You've acknowledged that he
wouldn't.
Unless you think the BTP at the courthouse would be dishonest and
mail information that isn't really about David (you will need to
justify such a possition), you must accept the truth that you either
made a mistake or you were conned.
"Maybe he's like me to attach some kiddie porn to aid his fantasies"
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, expressing
his fondness for child porn in
Message-ID:
<RECUi.494$Q%3.238@trnddc04>
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
>> As it has been said; "you can fool all of the people some of the time,
>> you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you CANNOT fool all of
>> the people all of the time, Davey." So far, lately. women catch your scent
>> early enough to save themselves, and your little BLACKMAIL gig isn't working
>> so well to get women in bed any more. As to any men interested in MZ.
>> McAllister, they should be charged with bestiality.
>
> Well since YOU and GREG seem SOOOOOOO interested in me.........
>
>(( laughing))
BURN!
freedom
>DAVID MOORE INTERNET CRACKPOT
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:bdfa6b7887cb767a...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
>> Nobody from Calumet City Illinois wrote the message you're replying to.
>
> Just YOU little Davey! JUST YOU!
Then why did you claim, in the subject line, that someone else wrote it?
I just love it when you prove YOURSELF a liar. Such fun, having a battle
of wits with someone as uneducated as yourself....
None of it accurate, if your postings on usenet are any indication.
My information on you, on the other hand, is 100% accurate and verified:
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
> you'd be surprised to know how
>many people you know have been a constant flow of information. Some you
>think are really on your side, and I am not referring to the ones YOU
>create. Although, Davey, even those contain information about you you don't
>intend for me to pick up on.
You have yet to speak to anyone I "know." If you did, you'd at least know
my geographic location.
>
>
>>>> He claims that I have two ex-wives, then claims that a woman from
>>>> Indiana
>>>> and another from California are or were engaged to me. And now there's
>>>> you. In other words, I must have amazing prowess... definitely doesn't
>>>> fit
>>>> in with the description of someone who is "gay"....
>>>
>>>> But then again, we all know how Ken loves to project....
>>>
>>> As it has been said; "you can fool all of the people some of the time,
>>>you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you CANNOT fool all
>>>of
>>>the people all of the time, Davey." So far, lately. women catch your scent
>>>early enough to save themselves,
>
>> And yet I've been married to the same woman for well over a decade.
>
> BULLSHIT! I've seen the divorce paperwork from Missouri - DEADBEAT!
As I've never been married to anyone in Missouri, nor set foot in the state
since I was 12 years old, it's impossible for you to have seen any "divorce
paperwork" from there which involves me in any way. The term "deadbeat"
also doesn't relate to me, as it usually refers to a parent who does not
financially support his or her children.
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, krp <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>DAVID MOORE INTERNET CRACKPOT
>>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>>news:bdfa6b7887cb767a...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>
>>> Nobody from Calumet City Illinois wrote the message you're replying to.
>>
>> Just YOU little Davey! JUST YOU!
>
>Then why did you claim, in the subject line, that someone else wrote it?
>
>I just love it when you prove YOURSELF a liar. Such fun, having a battle
>of wits with someone as uneducated as yourself....
>
Pangborn frequently sets himself up to be exposed as the fraud he
is.
It's almost as if he wants to be proved the con man, fraud and
incompetent fool he is.
[...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No offense taken. I have a man friend of my own and he satisfies me
>>>>>>quite well. Kennie and his butt monkey greg enjoy themselves imagining
>>>>>>me to be some sort of loose female. Though how can Kennie claim you
>>>>>>are gay while at the same time claim I'm you're girlfriend seems to be
>>>>>>a huge contradiction.
>>>>
>>>>> You're just one of many, according to him. He has claimed that at least
>>>>> four other women have accepted my marriage proposal at one time or
>>>>> another.
>>>>
>>>> Amazing how ther can be so many stupid women. But we can see the women
>>>>by the hundreds who propose to men on death row every year. All but two of
>>>>them found you out before it was too late, Davey.
>>
>>> Actually, your statement about me being engaged to four different women
>>> was
>>> a lie....a result of your complete inability to dig up ANY accurate
>>> information on me.
>>
>> I've gotten loads of info on you, Moore,
>
>None of it accurate, if your postings on usenet are any indication.
>
>My information on you, on the other hand, is 100% accurate and verified:
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Whereas the bulk of the material presented at your TRUTH site
consists of Pangborn's own writings, he must claim the site is
accurate, or claim that he's been lying for all these years.
>
>
>> you'd be surprised to know how
>>many people you know have been a constant flow of information. Some you
>>think are really on your side, and I am not referring to the ones YOU
>>create. Although, Davey, even those contain information about you you don't
>>intend for me to pick up on.
>
>You have yet to speak to anyone I "know." If you did, you'd at least know
>my geographic location.
He's limited himself to the United States. That's better than
Greg in regards to me. At one time Greg claimed I lived in Canada.
[...]
>>
>>> And yet I've been married to the same woman for well over a decade.
>>
>> BULLSHIT! I've seen the divorce paperwork from Missouri - DEADBEAT!
>
>As I've never been married to anyone in Missouri, nor set foot in the state
>since I was 12 years old, it's impossible for you to have seen any "divorce
>paperwork" from there which involves me in any way. The term "deadbeat"
>also doesn't relate to me, as it usually refers to a parent who does not
>financially support his or her children.
Like it's been alleged Pangborn didn't do?
>
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
>criminals
>
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
Greegor
You OWN him? Inflatable?
Moe > and he satisfies me quite well.
You can't get a date with either gender.
Moe > Kennie and his butt monkey greg
Stop saying such BAD THINGS about me! LOL
Moe > enjoy themselves imagining
Moe > me to be some sort of loose female.
I believe the expression is that you've got a screw loose.
You can't be a slut if you can't get a date with
either gender.
If you did they could be charged criminally for bestiality.