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chris

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00โ€ฏAM2/20/00
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memgbe?

you don't have better things to do ....right?

Anonymous

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(dot)pangk.@aol.com, a forged address that we're all supposed to be so
stupid as to not notice.... pang didn't write this. David, do you
really think we are that stupid as to not notice? So are you, David,
a member of the KKK? You sure seem to have the shoe-size IQ for it.

Message-ID: <200002210...@a.earth.net>
Date: 21 Feb 2000 00:23:59 -0000
From: .pa...@aol.com (PangK)
Subject: KKK
Newsgroups: alt.mens-rights,alt.dads-
rights.unmoderated,fl.general,alt.support.grief.pet-loss
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I am a memgbe of the KKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHITE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Paul Fritz

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PangK wrote:

> I am a memgbe of the KKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> WHITE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how many more groups are you going to spam, lame ass davey boy moroon?
another piss poor forgery only wibly would believe.


Mixmaster

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Date: 21 Feb 2000 01:47:36 -0000
From: fre...@freedom.org
Subject: Re: KKK
Newsgroups: alt.mens-rights,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,fl.general
References: <ed1bcea6585a8a75...@noisebox.dhs.org>

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On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:28:50 -0700 Anonymous <nob...@noisebox.dhs.org>
wrote:

>(dot)pangk.@aol.com,
> (snip, cancel issued)

I'm sorry, did you say something?

Sure did, Mr. High and MIghty worm, afraid to rogue cancel from his
ISP account. I'll see that the information gets out. For now, I
think it's marvelous to demonstrate to your club that you have no
rebuttal, that truth embarrasses you to the point that you violate
Netiquette and ethics to silence those who would tell it, all while
you hide behind the remailers you would deny me to use - your reason?
Again, only so you can control who says what where and that they pay
for the truths you would hide. Tough luck. Your forgeries are well
known. YOU provide the proof on a daily basis.


PangK

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PangK

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>From: .pa...@aol.com (PangK)
>Newsgroups: alt.mens-rights, alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, fl.general,
>alt.support.grief.pet-loss

Well after drilling Moore's ass for the OBVIOUS parts of his forgeries he
FINALLY picked up on that AOL doeplays on all LOWER case! See you CAN educate
ANYONE no matter HOW STUPID they are!

He still has to put that extra character in though like the "." before the
"p"...

Also BONEHEAD can't figure out to correct some of his most GAPING fuckups..
LIKE:

>Message-ID: <200002210...@a.earth.net>

Still NOT America OnLine Daveydummy!
Poor baby.

>Newsgroups: alt.mens-rights, alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, fl.general,
>alt.support.grief.pet-loss

Crossposted to a bunch of newsgroups Daveymaroon, AOL doesn't do THAT either.

>Comments: This message has been remailed.

OOOPS! Fuckup, you did it again. You didn't remove the WARNING!

>X-Remailer-Contact: http://www.multimania.com/azertyadmin/
>Mail-To-News-Contact: postm...@nym.alias.net
>Organization: mail...@nym.alias.net

Oh and look there, you messed that up too! Can't you get ANYTHING right
dumbass?

>
>WHITE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In your Case Moore it sure as hell is not "BRAIN POWER!"

fre...@freedom.org

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kch...@kchase.net

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On 21 Feb 2000 01:47:36 -0000, fre...@freedom.org wrote:

David Moore, graphic thief.

cschupp

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Isn't pang Asian? I did not know the kkk accepted Asians.

Carol
"PangK" <.pa...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:200002210...@a.earth.net...

cschupp

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Oh yea, what is a memgbe?? Learn to spell!!!

Dave

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Having read the fake freedom's braggadoccio about canceling this exposure, I
thought I'd repost it for the author, who has an important point to make.

(dot)pangk.@aol.com, a forged address that we're all supposed to be so
stupid as to not notice.... pang didn't write this. David, do you
really think we are that stupid as to not notice? So are you, David,
a member of the KKK? You sure seem to have the shoe-size IQ for it.

Message-ID: <200002210...@a.earth.net>


Date: 21 Feb 2000 00:23:59 -0000
From: .pa...@aol.com (PangK)
Subject: KKK
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I am a memgbe of the KKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHITE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


fre...@freedom.org

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On 21 Feb 2000 02:07:08 GMT freed...@aol.com (Dave) wrote:

>Having read the fake freedom's braggadoccio about canceling this exposure, I
>thought I'd repost it for the author,

....and it joins the original post in the bit-bucket.

Now...you were saying?


Michael Newton

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PangK wrote:
>
> I am a memgb [sic] of the KKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, at least he can spell "KKK" ... for the moment.

mn

fre...@freedom.org

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:09:50 GMT kch...@kchase.net wrote:

>On 21 Feb 2000 01:47:36 -0000, fre...@freedom.org wrote:
>
>David Moore, graphic thief.
>
>

Want some cheese to go with that whine? :)


fre...@freedom.org

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 02:10:46 GMT "cschupp" <csc...@gte.net> wrote:

>Isn't pang Asian? I did not know the kkk accepted Asians.
>
>Carol

His photo is available at http://www.anet.com/~freedom/pangk.html.
Looks caucasian to me.

Also, one of the pages there details his diatribes against oriental
people...so it's doubtful that he is one.


>"PangK" <.pa...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:200002210...@a.earth.net...

Trish

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My husband got someones isp taken away when they did threatening ugly
stuff...
whats happening here that this hasnt happened to this truly ugly awful
person?

Wondering
Trish

Marsha

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Amen to that!!!

PangK

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>From: "cschupp" csc...@gte.net
>Newsgroups: alt.mens-rights, alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, fl.general,
>alt.support.grief.pet-loss

>


>Oh yea, what is a memgbe?? Learn to spell!!!

Carol how bout you learn to READ posts and spot rather OBVIOUS forgeries????


PangK

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>From: Mixmaster mixm...@remail.obscura.com

>Newsgroups: alt.mens-rights, alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, fl.general

>Your forgeries are well
>known. YOU provide the proof on a daily basis.

And EVERYONE . . .EXCEPT WIlbur STreetttttttt knows it!


fre...@anet.com

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kch...@kchase.net wrote:

> Typical responce from a theif.
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^

Typical second-grade level spelling from a Ken Pangborn
sock-puppet/forger.

kch...@kchase.net

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kch...@kchase.net

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 02:41:21 GMT, fre...@anet.com wrote:

>
>
>kch...@kchase.net wrote:
>>
>> On 21 Feb 2000 16:16:47 -0000, fre...@freedom.org wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:09:50 GMT kch...@kchase.net wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 21 Feb 2000 01:47:36 -0000, fre...@freedom.org wrote:
>> >>
>> >>David Moore, graphic thief.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Want some cheese to go with that whine? :)
>>
>> Typical responce from a theif.

> ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
>
>Typical second-grade level spelling from a Ken Pangborn
>sock-puppet/forger.

Spelling errors are not a concern here, think about it David do you
really think I care what you think about my spelling? I do know that
you stole that graphic from me and it does not really matter if anyone
else believes me because I know who created that picture. And thats
what counts.

NoWhere

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In article <%yes4.6562$tk7.5...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
pawarren@*remove*att.net (Trish) writes:

>My husband got someones isp taken away when they did threatening ugly
>stuff...
>whats happening here that this hasnt happened to this truly ugly awful
>person?
>
>Wondering
>Trish

Because the forgery is coming from fre...@anet.com. That ISP does
not care what their users post, and hide under "freedom of speech". If
the original message was from AOL, the AOL would have shut down the
account.
--
Everyone is entitled to their WRONG opinion.

MissTique

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Of course he is the one... what better way to avoid suspicion???? hhmm..
your address is fre...@freedom.org and the url you refer to has freedom
in it.. coincidence?? I think not... We arent fools here... I've been to
that site and alls it is is an attack on the real PangK... sheesh.. get
a life!

MissTique

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Trish... I have written to the real perpetrator's isp and so far they have
failed to respond in any fashion.. some isp's are just not responsible
ones.... unfortunately

Trish wrote:

> My husband got someones isp taken away when they did threatening ugly
> stuff...
> whats happening here that this hasnt happened to this truly ugly awful
> person?
>
> Wondering
> Trish
>

fre...@freedom.org

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:26:28 -0500 MissTique <miss...@webspan.net>
wrote:

>Of course he is the one... what better way to avoid suspicion???? hhmm..
>your address is fre...@freedom.org and the url you refer to has freedom
>in it.. coincidence?? I think not... We arent fools here... I've been to
>that site and alls it is is an attack on the real PangK... sheesh.. get
>a life!

It's not an "attack". I have that web site up as a defensive measure,
against a smear/harassment campaign which this person has waged against
me. So, yes, the URL is mine, but I'm not "attacking" anyone.

Nor was I making any attempt to hide the fact that the site is mine.

Gene Janczynskyi

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<fre...@freedom.org> wrote in message news:200002240...@a.earth.net...

> >Of course he is the one... what better way to avoid suspicion???? hhmm..
> >your address is fre...@freedom.org and the url you refer to has freedom
> >in it.. coincidence?? I think not... We arent fools here... I've been to
> >that site and alls it is is an attack on the real PangK... sheesh.. get
> >a life!
>
> It's not an "attack". I have that web site up as a defensive measure,
> against a smear/harassment campaign which this person has waged against
> me. So, yes, the URL is mine, but I'm not "attacking" anyone.
>
No Dave, it is something called flame. Come on let's say it all together now,
flame. I still have not found a answer to why the hell you need to put this shit
on fl.general. So he lives here, who cares? 14 million other people live here so
that makes your answer irrelevant. Why should I give a rat's ass on what he did
to you? So take this crap off of fl.general.

> Nor was I making any attempt to hide the fact that the site is mine.
>

No, but you are denying the fact of the hate-posts that are from Ken which that
are not. Once you start using AOL's news server (which I really doubt that they
would let you use it) then we will have to decide which is Ken's and which is
yours.

You seriously need to spend some time in Rikers Island. They will fix you up
real good. B-}
--
"Never, ever mistake your wife's can of hairspray for your underarm deodorant."

Gene Janczynskyi
in Cape Coral, FL
Delete "REMOVE" to reply

fre...@freedom.org

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:28:01 -0500 MissTique <miss...@webspan.net>
wrote:

>Trish... I have written to the real perpetrator's isp and so far they have
>failed to respond in any fashion.. some isp's are just not responsible
>ones.... unfortunately

Yes...unfortunately America Online is like that. Hint: PangK has a
friend on the AOL CAT team who is blocking complaints about him.

>
>Trish wrote:
>
>> My husband got someones isp taken away when they did threatening ugly
>> stuff...
>> whats happening here that this hasnt happened to this truly ugly awful
>> person?
>>
>> Wondering
>> Trish
>>

Trish

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I would be happy to call via phone aol since I'm a member on aol too.. would
that help?

however, I do need his email address...

The little I've seen of this guy has been way too much for my stomache!

maybe we can somehow band together?

Trish

Gene Janczynskyi

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<fre...@freedom.org> wrote in message news:200002271...@a.earth.net...
> >This just doesn't sound like the Ken Pangborn I knew.
> >
The reason is that because dumbass Dave is writing this crap, not Ken

> If the Ken Pangborn you knew was from Holiday, Florida, then I'm sad to
> say that this is indeed the same one.
>
> Following is a biography which shows what else Ken has been up to.
>
> http://www.anet.com/~freedom/pangk.html
>
> Warning: it isn't pretty.
>
Neither are you. So what is your point?

Karl J. Chase Sr.

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On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:33:55 -0500, "Gene Janczynskyi"
<ejjancz...@mindspring.com> wrote:

><fre...@freedom.org> wrote in message news:200002271...@a.earth.net...
>> >This just doesn't sound like the Ken Pangborn I knew.
>> >
>The reason is that because dumbass Dave is writing this crap, not Ken
>
>> If the Ken Pangborn you knew was from Holiday, Florida, then I'm sad to
>> say that this is indeed the same one.
>>
>> Following is a biography which shows what else Ken has been up to.
>>
>> http://www.anet.com/~freedom/pangk.html
>>
>> Warning: it isn't pretty.
>>
>Neither are you. So what is your point?

Of course the things on his Pang page are his views of the world and not what
might be viewed as truth...

PangK

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>From: fre...@freedom.org
>Newsgroups:
>alt.mens-rights,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,fl.general,alt.support.grief.
pet-loss

>
>If the Ken Pangborn you knew was from Holiday, Florida, then I'm sad to
>say that this is indeed the same one.
>
>Following is a biography which shows what else Ken has been up to.
>
>http://www.anet.com/~freedom/pangk.html

>Warning: it isn't pretty.

Right, lousy HTML and it certainly IS "bullshit!"


fre...@freedom.org

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Don't care. I'm a programmer, not a web developer. And the site gets
the point across: Ken Pangborn = liar, cheat and con artist.

>and it certainly IS "bullshit!"

Yes...it IS bullshit, that someone who purports to defend against
"false accusations", makes so many of them himself on a daily basis.

fre...@freedom.org

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On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:04:34 GMT kch...@kchase.net (Karl J. Chase Sr.)
wrote:

>Ken,
> You are not making it any easier here either. If you would just stop replying
>it would go further in stopping the crap than if you kept posting. If you want
>to insist on posting and replying to Davy or Wilburs shit then do so, but if you
>really care about fathers rights you would stop. Even if they post forged shit
>just stop, think and then close the posting window... It will come to an end
>after awhile... wise words I have posted, but few will follow them. Thats what
>Davey wants....

Wrong. Ken is perfectly aware of what it will take for this to stop.
It's posted on my web page. Basically, I'm asking for him to admit
that he has defamed my character with lies, and to apologize.
Unfortunately, it seems that Ken has told the same lies for so long
that he's begun to believe them, so I'm not sure this is going to go
away anytime soon.

http://www.anet.com/~freedom/pangk.html

>
>
>On 27 Feb 2000 22:48:17 GMT, pa...@aol.com (PangK) wrote:
>
>>>From: fre...@freedom.org
>>>Newsgroups:
>>>alt.mens-rights,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,fl.general,alt.support.grief.
>>pet-loss
>>
>>>
>>>If the Ken Pangborn you knew was from Holiday, Florida, then I'm sad to
>>>say that this is indeed the same one.
>>>
>>>Following is a biography which shows what else Ken has been up to.
>>>
>>>http://www.anet.com/~freedom/pangk.html
>>
>>>Warning: it isn't pretty.
>>

>>Right, lousy HTML and it certainly IS "bullshit!"
>>
>
>
>


Anonymous

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On 27 Feb 2000 23:35:41 -0000, freedom@liar's.freedom.org wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:04:34 GMT kch...@kchase.net (Karl J. Chase
Sr.) wrote:
>>Ken,
>> You are not making it any easier here either. If you
>>would just stop replying it would go further in stopping
>>the crap than if you kept posting. If you want to insist
>>on posting and replying to Davy or Wilburs shit then do
>>so, but if you really care about fathers rights you would
>>stop. Even if they post forged shit just stop, think and
>>then close the posting window... It will come to an end
>>after awhile... wise words I have posted, but few will
>>follow them. Thats what Davey wants....

Pang should stop defending himself with the truth while David is free
to lie until he grows balls, like, how long will that be?

>freedom@[liar's]freedom.org wrote:
>Wrong. Ken is perfectly aware of what it will take for this to stop.
>It's posted on my web page. Basically, I'm asking for him to admit
>that he has defamed my character with lies, and to apologize.
>Unfortunately, it seems that Ken has told the same lies for so long
>that he's begun to believe them, so I'm not sure this is going to go
>away anytime soon.

In other words you are trying to extort a lie, a false retraction.
(Extortion is criminal.) You have hidden under other IDs, including
ValTech, Val4100, and a...@infinity.net, lied, forged, extorted, and
harassed. It's possible that if you admit that publically (without
using remailers enabling your characteristic later denials) and maybe
he'll stop making other accusations. Oh yea, but you're still one of
those little kids that wants to whine, "But he did it back to me
first!"

Karl J. Chase Sr.

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Ken,
You are not making it any easier here either. If you would just stop replying
it would go further in stopping the crap than if you kept posting. If you want
to insist on posting and replying to Davy or Wilburs shit then do so, but if you
really care about fathers rights you would stop. Even if they post forged shit
just stop, think and then close the posting window... It will come to an end
after awhile... wise words I have posted, but few will follow them. Thats what
Davey wants....

Karl J. Chase Sr.

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On 27 Feb 2000 23:35:39 -0000, fre...@freedom.org wrote:

>On 27 Feb 2000 22:48:17 GMT pa...@aol.com (PangK) wrote:
>
>>>From: fre...@freedom.org
>>>Newsgroups:
>>>alt.mens-rights,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,fl.general,alt.support.grief.
>>pet-loss
>>
>>>
>>>If the Ken Pangborn you knew was from Holiday, Florida, then I'm sad to
>>>say that this is indeed the same one.
>>>
>>>Following is a biography which shows what else Ken has been up to.
>>>
>>>http://www.anet.com/~freedom/pangk.html
>>
>>>Warning: it isn't pretty.
>>
>>Right, lousy HTML
>

>Don't care. I'm a programmer, not a web developer. And the site gets
>the point across: Ken Pangborn = liar, cheat and con artist.

You call the web page you do programming? That piss poor html is not fit for the
devils webpage...

>
>
>
>>and it certainly IS "bullshit!"
>

Karl J. Chase Sr.

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On 27 Feb 2000 23:35:41 -0000, fre...@freedom.org wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:04:34 GMT kch...@kchase.net (Karl J. Chase Sr.)
>wrote:
>

>>Ken,
>> You are not making it any easier here either. If you would just stop replying
>>it would go further in stopping the crap than if you kept posting. If you want
>>to insist on posting and replying to Davy or Wilburs shit then do so, but if you
>>really care about fathers rights you would stop. Even if they post forged shit
>>just stop, think and then close the posting window... It will come to an end
>>after awhile... wise words I have posted, but few will follow them. Thats what
>>Davey wants....
>

>Wrong. Ken is perfectly aware of what it will take for this to stop.
>It's posted on my web page. Basically, I'm asking for him to admit
>that he has defamed my character with lies, and to apologize.
>Unfortunately, it seems that Ken has told the same lies for so long
>that he's begun to believe them, so I'm not sure this is going to go
>away anytime soon.
>

Post the fact that you are the lamer that won't make it stop. Be the big man and
make it end, all you have to do is stop posting about Ken and all that crap...

>http://www.anet.com/~freedom/pangk.html


>
>
>
>>
>>
>>On 27 Feb 2000 22:48:17 GMT, pa...@aol.com (PangK) wrote:
>>
>>>>From: fre...@freedom.org
>>>>Newsgroups:
>>>>alt.mens-rights,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,fl.general,alt.support.grief.
>>>pet-loss
>>>
>>>>
>>>>If the Ken Pangborn you knew was from Holiday, Florida, then I'm sad to
>>>>say that this is indeed the same one.
>>>>
>>>>Following is a biography which shows what else Ken has been up to.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.anet.com/~freedom/pangk.html
>>>
>>>>Warning: it isn't pretty.
>>>

>>>Right, lousy HTML and it certainly IS "bullshit!"
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fre...@freedom.org

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On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 03:01:33 GMT kch...@kchase.net (Karl J. Chase Sr.)
wrote:

>On 27 Feb 2000 23:35:41 -0000, fre...@freedom.org wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:04:34 GMT kch...@kchase.net (Karl J. Chase Sr.)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Ken,
>>> You are not making it any easier here either. If you would just stop replying
>>>it would go further in stopping the crap than if you kept posting. If you want
>>>to insist on posting and replying to Davy or Wilburs shit then do so, but if you
>>>really care about fathers rights you would stop. Even if they post forged shit
>>>just stop, think and then close the posting window... It will come to an end
>>>after awhile... wise words I have posted, but few will follow them. Thats what
>>>Davey wants....
>>
>>Wrong. Ken is perfectly aware of what it will take for this to stop.
>>It's posted on my web page. Basically, I'm asking for him to admit
>>that he has defamed my character with lies, and to apologize.
>>Unfortunately, it seems that Ken has told the same lies for so long
>>that he's begun to believe them, so I'm not sure this is going to go
>>away anytime soon.
>>
>
>Post the fact that you are the lamer that won't make it stop. Be the big man and
>make it end, all you have to do is stop posting about Ken and all that crap...


Wrong. I've tried playing it that way before. Went away from usenet
entirely for several weeks. Didn't make a difference. In fact, Ken
actually increased his output...and expanded it to include threats
against my wife and children.

Nope...this time Ken's going to have to convince me that he's sincere
about truly bringing this to a close...and to do so, it'll take a
formal apology, retraction of his various lies (about my alleged "wife
beating", my military service record, Michael Newton's parents, etc.)
Otherwise, this whole thing will continue.

And, I realize that me, Ken and most of the other people involved
typically reside in most peoples' killfiles. This doesn't concern me,
because *I* don't depend in any way on usenet for my professional
livelihood. Ken is only hurting himself for as long as he allows this
to continue....

http://www.anet.com/~freedom/pangk.html

PangK

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>From: fre...@freedom.org
>Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated

>>>Wrong. Ken is perfectly aware of what it will take for this to stop.

>Wrong. I've tried playing it that way before. Went away from usenet entirely


for several weeks. Didn't make a difference. In fact, Ken actually increased
his output...and expanded it to include threats
against my wife and children.

In a word Moore, BULLSHIT! You never did
stop. You merely changed screen names.
And my output had nothing to do with your wife, but YOURS indeed HAS included
invitations to rape mine!

>Nope...this time Ken's going to have to convince me that he's sincere
>about truly bringing this to a close...and to do so, it'll take a
>formal apology, retraction of his various lies (about my alleged "wife
>beating",

Not "alleged" Davey a FACT!


fre...@freedom.org

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On 28 Feb 2000 04:26:46 GMT pa...@aol.com (PangK) wrote:

>>From: fre...@freedom.org
>>Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
>
>>>>Wrong. Ken is perfectly aware of what it will take for this to stop.
>
>>Wrong. I've tried playing it that way before. Went away from usenet entirely
>for several weeks. Didn't make a difference. In fact, Ken actually increased
>his output...and expanded it to include threats
>against my wife and children.
>
>In a word Moore, BULLSHIT! You never did
>stop. You merely changed screen names.
>And my output had nothing to do with your wife,


From your email to me on January 3, 1999:
"Now let's see where did zI put those pictures of Linda. Should be fun
forging your screen name and nmaking soe REAL racist comments to the
black groups in Chicago and DARING them to come to your house, eh
David?รก Want WAR??????"


PangK

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>From: fre...@freedom.org
>Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated

>From your email to me on January 3, 1999: "Now let's see where did I put those
pictures of Linda. Should be fun forging your screen name and making some REAL


racist comments to the black groups in Chicago and DARING them to come to your

house, eh David? Want WAR??????"


Gee David did *I* ever post any pictures of Linda? Shall we talk about photos
YOU and your pal Stacy posted of a nude woman you CLAIMED was my wife inviting
people to come over and "tire her up and FUCK" her? Shall we discuss that
Davey?

I at THAT time thought perhaps if you thought you could get a dose of YOUR OWN
medicine it might make you reconsider your behavior. Sadly Moore it hasn't. You
speak LOADS about the behavior of others Moore. Never your own.
You continue to believe that ANYTHING you do to others is merely your RIGHT,
but if they even "threaten" to do to you what you ARE doing to them you cry
like a two year old! Oh Christ how you can WHINE!
Nobody has to actually DO anything to you sissyboy, just SAY they might and you
SCREAM like you were impaled with a lance! Christ what a SISSY! You can dish it
out but you can't take it. The funny thing is Moore, that nobody actually has
to DO anything to you, just say they MIGHT and you cry like a baby! That
pretty well fits the bill of SISSY to me!

fre...@freedom.org

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In article <20000228074828...@ng-bh1.aol.com>,

pa...@aol.com (PangK) wrote:
>>From: fre...@freedom.org
>>Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
>
>>From your email to me on January 3, 1999: "Now let's see where

did I put those
>pictures of Linda. Should be fun forging your screen name and

making some REAL
>racist comments to the black groups in Chicago and DARING them

to come to your
>house, eh David? Want WAR??????"
>
>
>Gee David did *I* ever post any pictures of Linda?

I didn't say you posted any pictures. I said that you threatened to do
so, and I posted the above in response to your denial that you ever
attacked other members of my family.

The fact of the matter was, I had stopped posting to usenet entirely.
You simply couldn't stand the fact that I was ignoring you and your
petty attacks on me. You could not stand the thought of there being no
flame war. So you turned your attacks on my wife and children.

> Shall we talk

about photos
>YOU and your pal Stacy posted of a nude woman you CLAIMED was my

wife inviting
>people to come over and "tire her up and FUCK" her? Shall we

discuss that
>Davey?
>

No need to discuss something that never happened. I never posted any
photos of anyone.

>I at THAT time thought perhaps if you thought you could get a

dose of YOUR OWN
>medicine it might make you reconsider your behavior.

Oh, good. At least you admit posting threats against my wife. About
time you started owning up to your thug tactics.

Note to everyone who may have read PangK's ad for his "a-team" false
accusations services...is this the kind of man you want writing your
legal briefs?

http://www.anet.com/~freedom/pangk.html

Mixmaster

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On 27 Feb 2000 23:35:41 -0000, fre...@freedom.org wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:04:34 GMT kch...@kchase.net (Karl J. Chase
Sr.) wrote:
>>Ken,
>> You are not making it any easier here either. If you would just
stop replying
>>it would go further in stopping the crap than if you kept posting.
If you want
>>to insist on posting and replying to Davy or Wilburs shit then do
so, but if you
>>really care about fathers rights you would stop. Even if they post
forged shit
>>just stop, think and then close the posting window... It will come
to an end
>>after awhile... wise words I have posted, but few will follow them.
Thats what
>>Davey wants....
>

>fre...@lie.freedom.org wrote:
>Wrong. Ken is perfectly aware of what it will take for this to stop.

>It's posted on my web page. Basically, I'm asking for him to admit
>that he has defamed my character with lies, and to apologize.
>Unfortunately, it seems that Ken has told the same lies for so long
>that he's begun to believe them, so I'm not sure this is going to go
>away anytime soon.

In other words you are trying to extort a lie, a false retraction.
Extortion is criminal. You have hidden under other IDs, including

ValTech, Val4100, and a...@infinity.net, lied, forged, extorted, and

harassed. Admit that publically (without using remailers enabling

your characteristic later denials) and maybe he'll stop making other

accusations. Isn't it the better man who easily admits truth?


Anonymous

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On 29 Feb 2000 20:12:32 -0000, fre...@freedom.org wrote:

>
>No need to discuss something that never happened. I never posted any
>photos of anyone.

Liar.

spide...@my-deja.com

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In article <2000022920...@sirius.infonex.com>,

Moore could not tell the truth if his life depended on it. He is a
psycho who is in his own little world. If Moore believes something
then in his little mind it is so. But to ask Moore to tell the truth,
and post WITHOUT use of a remailer is like asking Clinton not to have
sex in the White House!
>
>


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Before you buy.

PangK

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>From: Anonymous nob...@noisebox.dhs.org

>Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated

>>fre...@freedom.org wrote:

>>No need to discuss something that never happened. I never posted any
photos of anyone.

Moore - on occasion you have professed to be a "Christian" as in "Born
Again" type.
Naturally, as you might suspect I don't buy that for a picosecond. BUT, David,
with a LIE of that magnitude I'd suggest that when eternity arrives for you I'd
suggest you NOT take along any warm clothing, you'll not need it where you are
going!

fre...@freedom.org

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On 01 Mar 2000 03:18:24 GMT pa...@aol.com (PangK) wrote:

>>From: Anonymous nob...@noisebox.dhs.org
>
>>Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
>
>>>fre...@freedom.org wrote:
>
>>>No need to discuss something that never happened. I never posted any
>photos of anyone.
>
> Moore - on occasion you have professed to be a "Christian" as in "Born
>Again" type.

Liar. Show me where I've ever discussed my religion online, in any
way, shape or form.

fre...@freedom.org

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On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:15:39 -0700 Anonymous <nob...@noisebox.dhs.org>
wrote:

>On 29 Feb 2000 20:12:32 -0000, fre...@freedom.org wrote:
>
>>
>>No need to discuss something that never happened. I never posted any
>>photos of anyone.
>

>Liar.

Typical cowardly, one-word, unsubstantiated McLie we'd expect from you,
Jade. I won't even bother cancelling this one.


Mixmaster

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On 29 Feb 2000 20:12:32 -0000, fre...@freedom.org wrote:

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>No need to discuss something that never happened. I never posted any
>photos of anyone.

Liar. How about those autopsy photos?

Anonymous User

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On 29 Feb 2000 20:12:32 -0000, fre...@freedom.org wrote:

>
>No need to discuss something that never happened. I never posted any
>photos of anyone.

But Davy, what about those pix of Pang you keep advertising?

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