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Sourcerer

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Feb 5, 1994, 3:14:03 PM2/5/94
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Robert S. mah (rm...@panix.com) wrote:
: dje...@telerama.lm.com (Sourcerer) wrote:

: > I've just spent a bit of time in alt.wired and got interested in the Make
: > Money Fast threads. There's some real sick puppies there...
: >
: > ...not the posters of the chain letters -- they're just inexperienced and
: > probably a bit dumb -- but the guys who object to it. Some real power
: > tripping assholes, they are.
: >
: > [...]
: >
: > Anyone who rats on some dumb kid for posting a chain letter deserves an
: > attitude adjustment. And I'd be delighted to oblige...

: I'm not so sure. While turning someone in to the bronze may be a bit
: severe...

: What's worse, hammering on some dumb kid for posting a chain letter or
: letting other dumb kids get suckered in by them?

: Cheers,
: Rob
: ______________________________________________________________________
: Robert S. Mah | One Step Beyond rm...@panix.com | 212.947.6507

I find the scare tactics approach by some posters to be sadistic and
abusive. What the kids need is to be clued in and not to be the
butt-fuck for some netcop greasin' his pants on a power-trip.

Some asswipe called it in to the post office (pretty clueless himself.
What does the PO have to do with usenet?). Maybe this sort of behavior
is acceptable on delphi and aol -- a shock to my system. I wasn't aware
alt.wired had become a burb of prodigy. Should've expected it,
considering the direction Wired's been going.

I get riled reading some suburban daddy-o getting his rocks off on
someone too inexperienced or dumb to defend him/her self. Riled enough
to nearly put a steel cap through the monitor to get to his face.

And what's the big deal? Getting "suckered" for a buck or two?

Time to stop treating the chain letters as the end of civilization as we
know it and put it in perspective.

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Christopher Mountford

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Feb 7, 1994, 8:32:23 AM2/7/94
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rm...@panix.com (Robert S. mah) writes:

>dje...@telerama.lm.com (Sourcerer) wrote:

>> Anyone who rats on some dumb kid for posting a chain letter deserves an
>> attitude adjustment. And I'd be delighted to oblige...

>What's worse, hammering on some dumb kid for posting a chain letter or


>letting other dumb kids get suckered in by them?

"letting" ? if it's happened then tell the kid not to do it. Most of them get
fried enough by the amount of people who respond to them without ratting on
them. Let 'em learn, don't get their account cancelled.

.Mountford.

Dave Garner

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Feb 9, 1994, 12:06:45 PM2/9/94
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cjm...@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Christopher Mountford) writes:

>>dje...@telerama.lm.com (Sourcerer) wrote:

Agreed. What an aid to the learning process it must be to get tossed out for
one ill-informed mistake. Naturally these vicious creeps who run to
sysadmins as a first course of action NEVER made any mistakes while they
were learning. Wonder what happens to their bloodpressure the second they
see the words "MAKE$$$ FAST!"? Hopefully they will drop dead of hypertension
in short order and let us get on with the fun.

PierrePressure

Robert S. Mah

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Feb 13, 1994, 12:37:02 AM2/13/94
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dav...@scorch.hna.com.au (Dave Garner) wrote:

What if it's not a first mistake? What if the first time works and nets a
few dozen or hundred dollars? And then they do it again?

And it's not exactly a "mistake". If anyone posts it, they post it to make
money. They may not have known it's "against the rules" or illegal in some
nations, but the goal _is_ to make money. Not exactly the same as a wild
cross posting.

As an aside, I haven't seen a "MAKE $$ FAST" in a few days...I wonder if
they're all waiting in the wings...planning...scheming...

Cheers,
Rob
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Sourcerer

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Feb 13, 1994, 11:41:19 AM2/13/94
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Robert S. Mah (rm...@panix.com) wrote:
: dav...@scorch.hna.com.au (Dave Garner) wrote:

: >
: > Agreed. What an aid to the learning process it must be to get tossed out

: > for one ill-informed mistake. Naturally these vicious creeps who run to
: > sysadmins as a first course of action NEVER made any mistakes while they
: > were learning. Wonder what happens to their bloodpressure the second they
: > see the words "MAKE$$$ FAST!"? Hopefully they will drop dead of hypertension
: > in short order and let us get on with the fun.

: What if it's not a first mistake? What if the first time works and nets a
: few dozen or hundred dollars? And then they do it again?

: And it's not exactly a "mistake". If anyone posts it, they post it to make
: money. They may not have known it's "against the rules" or illegal in some
: nations, but the goal _is_ to make money. Not exactly the same as a wild
: cross posting.

: As an aside, I haven't seen a "MAKE $$ FAST" in a few days...I wonder if
: they're all waiting in the wings...planning...scheming...

: Cheers,
: Rob
: ________________________________________________________________________
: Robert S. Mah One Step Beyond rm...@panix.com

But what's the reason for netcopping this shit at all? What pisses you
off about these posts? Spare me the bandwidth shibboleth (should we mod
usenet as a whole? Then Who giveth bandwidth and who taketh it away?).
I don't think you want to make a 'whataboutthechildren' type arguments
either.

Of course if it impacts the cost of your access or your storage limit --
how does that differ from any other post you consider frivolous, abusive,
commercial, borderline legal or otherwise unwanted?

A major difference may be you can do something about the MMF stuff.

I started this discussion because I think some people really overreact
and turn their being able to do something about it into a witch-hunt.

Being limited in one's ability to filter incoming is a situation of
relative powerlessnes. Having the opportunity to exercise power one can
act gracelessly and beat on someone all out of proportion to the
situation. Gloating over it in public is charming as well.

It's called being a bully and a pig.

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