Destroy the new fascist empire
Ivan Gowch
Snakes, the new fascist empire, must be
utterly destroyed, if the world is to be
saved from its toxic effects.
Fortunately, Americans themselves are
accomplishing this rather nicely, all by
themselves.
People evil enough to do what the American
cowards have done in Iraq and elsewhere are hardly
worthy of the designation "human."
America -- torturer nation, pervert nation, home
of the homicidal chickenshits.
===
U.S. Troops Tortured Iraqis in Mosul, Documents Show
Sat Mar 26, 7:43 AM ET
By Andrew Marshall
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - American soldiers tortured Iraqi prisoners at a
military base in Mosul but nobody was court martialed over the abuse,
U.S. army documents say.
The documents show that mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners was not
confined to the Abu Ghraib jail, where abuse and sexual humiliation of
inmates caused worldwide outrage last year.
An investigation by a U.S. officer after an Iraqi prisoner's jaw was
broken at the base in Mosul found that "detainees were being
systematically and intentionally mistreated" in late 2003.
Inmates were hit with water bottles, forced to do exhausting physical
exercises until they collapsed, deprived of sleep and subjected to
deafening noise, the investigation report found.
One prisoner died in December 2003 after four days of repeatedly
having to do physical exercises as a punishment, according to the
documents, obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union (news - web
sites) under the Freedom of Information Act.
The Mosul investigation began after 20-year-old Salah Salih Jassim had
his jaw broken in detention. He was not suspected of any crime but had
been arrested along with his father, an officer in Saddam Hussein's
Fedayeen militia.
[...]
be gentle with me
an intelligence agent, female, was shocked with an electrical prod,
under the presumption that she was a "mole". fiction it may be, but it
led me to wonder just how far from fiction it actually was - are we
living in a country that is beginning to disrespect people more - have
we become mere masses, fed lies too. A dozen years or so ago in
cincinnati, ohio, about 13 black men were hired for a research project
at the university of cincinnati - and it wasn't until a couple of years
ago when it hit the national newspapers, that the public found out that
the poor research participants were actually injected with the syphilus
spirochete without the mens knowledge. whilst it is a sexually
transmitted disease, and because the experiment happened so long ago,
and i believe was hushed up by payments to the men, it turns one's
stomach just to think of what else has been happening. that's why,
when i see ads on tv lokking for research subjects, it makes me cringe,
that should people, desperate for money, signing up for a research
study, may very well cause harm to themselves further down the road.
and the research scientists have only one thing in mind, get their
research published to rake in the money and notoreity. so if private
research institutions stoop to such low levels, and the above case was
disgusting, what will the government do?
Chief High Priest
"be gentle with me" <da...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1111866845.0...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
TV is the prpaganda tool of the government, so if they are doing it on "Law
and Order" or "24", they are conditioning the American mind to accept it
and you can be as sure as shit that some frustrated, sadistic homosexual ex
high school jock in uniform is doing it X 10.
Patrick
"Ivan Gowch" <ivan...@SPAMTHEENOTyahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:ec9b41de4kge3hipu...@4ax.com...
Lies, All lies!!!
If Saddam had only minded his own business and stayed the fuck out of
Kuwait.......Sometimes, your past just catches up to you!
Andrew
>- are we living in a country that is beginning to disrespect people
> more - have > we become mere masses, fed lies too.
Ever heard of the Miranda decision? Prior to that ruling, police beatings
to gain a confession were common. After the Miranda court decision, we
enjoyed a brief period where it was popular to limit the powers
of the police. The government and their enforcement people (police) found
this annoying.
Since the start of the drug war, the propaganda machine, backed by the
courts, has been in high gear supporting much illegal conduct. Since our
"sheeple" have hardly made a bleat, government behavior has overtly
decended to it's lowest point in some years. Think government torture
and detention without trial or charges.
> A dozen years or so ago in cincinnati, ohio, about 13 black men were
> hired for a research project at the university of cincinnati - and it
> wasn't until a couple of years ago when it hit the national newspapers,
> that the public found out that the poor research participants were
> actually injected with the syphilus spirochete without the mens
> knowledge.
I have not heard of this particular case. Can you provide a citation?
This type of behavior has been documented for almost a century. These
acts of tyranny are not what you would expect from a "free" country:
1931 Dr. Cornelius Rhoads, under the auspices of the
Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations, infects
human subjects with cancer cells. He later goes on to
establish the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in
Maryland, Utah, and Panama, and is named to the U.S.
Atomic Energy Commission. While there, he begins a series
of radiation exposure experiments on American soldiers
and civilian hospital patients.
1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men
diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness,
are denied treatment, and instead are used as human
guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and
symptoms of the disease. Most of the men subsequently die
from complications due to syphilis, their families never
told that they could have been treated.
1935 The Pellagra Incident. After millions of
individuals die from Pellagra over a span of two decades,
the U.S. Public Health Service finally acts to stem the
disease. The director of the agency admits it had known
for at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin
deficiency but failed to act since most of the deaths
occured within poverty-striken black populations.
1940 Four hundred prisoners in Chicago are infected with
Malaria in order to study the effects of new and
experimental drugs to combat the disease. Nazi doctors
later on trial at Nuremberg cite this American study to
defend their own actions during the Holocaust.
1942 Chemical Warfare Services begins mustard gas
experiments on approximately 4,000 servicemen. The
experiments continue until 1945 and made use of Seventh
Day Adventists who chose to become human guinea pigs
rather than serve on active duty.
1943 In response to Japan's full-scale germ warfare
program, the U.S. begins research on biological weapons
at Fort Detrick, MD.
1944 U.S. Navy uses human subjects to test gas masks and
clothing. Individuals were locked in a gas chamber and
exposed to mustard gas and lewisite.
1945 Project Paperclip is initiated. The U.S. State
Department, Army intelligence, and the CIA recruit Nazi
scientists and offer them immunity and secret identities
in exchange for work on top secret government projects in
the United States.
1945 "Program F" is implemented by the U.S. Atomic
Energy Commission (AEC). This is the most extensive U.S.
study of the health effects of fluoride, which was the
key chemical component in atomic bomb production. One of
the most toxic chemicals known to man, fluoride, it is
found, causes marked adverse effects to the central
nervous system but much of the information is squelched
in the name of national security because of fear that
lawsuits would undermine full-scale production of atomic
bombs.
1946 Patients in VA hospitals are used as guinea pigs
for medical experiments. In order to allay suspicions,
the order is given to change the word "experiments" to
"investigations" or "observations" whenever reporting a
medical study performed in one of the nation's veteran's
hospitals.
1947 Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy
Comission issues a secret document (Document 07075001,
January 8, 1947) stating that the agency will begin
administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances
to human subjects.
1947 The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential
weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects
(both civilian and military) are used with and without
their knowledge.
1950 Department of Defense begins plans to detonate
nuclear weapons in desert areas and monitor downwind
residents for medical problems and mortality rates.
1950 In an experiment to determine how susceptible an
American city would be to biological attack, the U.S.
Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San
Franciso. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the
city in order to test the extent of infection. Many
residents become ill with pneumonia-like symptoms. One
man dies.
1951 Department of Defense begins open air tests using
disease-producing bacteria and viruses. Tests last
through 1969 and there is concern that people in the
surrounding areas have been exposed.
1953 U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium
sulfide gas over Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort
Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in Maryland, and
Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how
efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.
1953 Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in
which tens of thousands of people in New York and San
Francisco are exposed to the airborne germs Serratia
marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.
1953 CIA initiates Project MKULTRA. This is an eleven
year research program designed to produce and test drugs
and biological agents that would be used for mind control
and behavior modification. Six of the subprojects
involved testing the agents on unwitting human beings.
1955 The CIA, in an experiment to test its ability to
infect human populations with biological agents, releases
a bacteria withdrawn from the Army's biological warfare
arsenal over Tampa Bay, Fl.
1955 Army Chemical Corps continues LSD research,
studying its potential use as a chemical incapacitating
agent. More than 1,000 Americans participate in the
tests, which continue until 1958.
1956 U.S. military releases mosquitoes infected with
Yellow Fever over Savannah, Ga and Avon Park, Fl.
Following each test, Army agents posing as public health
officials test victims for effects.
1958 LSD is tested on 95 volunteers at the Army's
Chemical Warfare Laboratories for its effect on
intelligence.
1960 The Army Assistant Chief-of-Staff for Intelligence
(ACSI) authorizes field testing of LSD in Europe and the
Far East. Testing of the european population is code
named Project THIRD CHANCE; testing of the Asian
population is code named Project DERBY HAT.
1965 Project CIA and Department of Defense begin Project
MKSEARCH, a program to develop a capability to manipulate
human behavior through the use of mind-altering drugs.
1965 Prisoners at the Holmesburg State Prison in
Philadelphia are subjected to dioxin, the highly toxic
chemical component of Agent Orange used in Viet Nam. The
men are later studied for development of cancer, which
indicates that Agent Orange had been a suspected
carcinogen all along.
1966 CIA initiates Project MKOFTEN, a program to test
the toxicological effects of certain drugs on humans and
animals.
1966 U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger
throughout the New York City subway system. More than a
million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop
lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation
grates.
1967 CIA and Department of Defense implement Project
MKNAOMI, successor to MKULTRA and designed to maintain,
stockpile and test biological and chemical weapons.
1968 CIA experiments with the possibility of poisoning
drinking water by injecting chemicals into the water
supply of the FDA in Washington, D.C.
1969 Department of Defense requests from congress $10
million to develop, within 5 to 10 years, a synthetic
biological agent to which no natural immunity exists.
1970 Funding for the synthetic biological agent is
obtained under H.R. 15090. The project, under the
supervision of the CIA, is carried out by the Special
Operations Division at Fort Detrick, the army's top
secret biological weapons facility. Speculation is raised
that molecular biology techniques are used to produce
AIDS-like retroviruses.
1970 United States intensifies its development of
"ethnic weapons" (Military Review, Nov., 1970), designed
to selectively target and eliminate specific ethnic
groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and
variations in DNA.
1975 The virus section of Fort Detrick's Center for
Biological Warfare Research is renamed the Fredrick
Cancer Research Facilities and placed under the
supervision of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) . It
is here that a special virus cancer program is initiated
by the U.S. Navy, purportedly to develop cancer-causing
viruses. It is also here that retrovirologists isolate a
virus to which no immunity exists. It is later named HTLV
(Human T-cell Leukemia Virus).
1977 Senate hearings on Health and Scientific Research
confirm that 239 populated areas had been contaminated
with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Some of the
areas included San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key West,
Panama City, Minneapolis, and St. Louis.
1978 Experimental Hepatitis B vaccine trials, conducted
by the CDC, begin in New York, Los Angeles and San
Francisco. Ads for research subjects specifically ask for
promiscuous homosexual men.
1981 First cases of AIDS are confirmed in homosexual men
in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, triggering
speculation that AIDS may have been introduced via the
Hepatitis B vaccine
1985 According to the journal Science (227:173-177),
HTLV and VISNA, a fatal sheep virus, are very similar,
which may indicate a close taxonomic and evolutionary
relationship.
1986 According to the Proceedings of the National
Academy of Sciences (83:4007-4011), HIV and VISNA are
highly similar and share all structural elements, except
for a small segment which is nearly identical to HTLV.
This leads to speculation that HTLV and VISNA may have
been linked to produce a new retrovirus to which no
natural immunity exists.
1986 A report to Congress reveals that the U.S.
Government's current generation of biological agents
includes: modified viruses, naturally occurring toxins,
and agents that are altered through genetic engineering
to change immunological character and prevent treatment
by all existing vaccines.
1987 Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty
banning research and development of biological agents, it
continues to operate research facilities at 127
facilities and universities around the nation.
1990 More than 1500 six-month old black and hispanic
babies in Los Angeles are given an "experimental" measles
vaccine that had never been licensed for use in the
United States. CDC later admits that parents were never
informed that the vaccine being injected to their
children was experimental.
1994 With a technique called "gene tracking," Dr. Garth
Nicolson at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, TX
discovers that many returning Desert Storm veterans are
infected with an altered strain of Mycoplasma incognitus,
a microbe commonly used in the production of biological
weapons. Incorporated into its molecular structure is 40
percent of the HIV protein coat, indicating that it had
been man-made.
1994 Senator John D. Rockefeller issues a report
revealing that for at least 50 years the Department of
Defense has used hundreds of thousands of military
personnel in human experiments and for intentional
exposure to dangerous substances. Materials included
mustard and nerve gas, ionizing radiation,
psychochemicals, hallucinogens, and drugs used during the
Gulf War .
1995 U.S. Government admits that it had offered Japanese
war criminals and scientists who had performed human
medical experiments salaries and immunity from
prosecution in exchange for data on biological warfare
research.
1995 Dr. Garth Nicolson, uncovers evidence that the
biological agents used during the Gulf War had been
manufactured in Houston, TX and Boca Raton, Fl and tested
on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections.
1996 Department of Defense admits that Desert Storm
soldiers were exposed to chemical agents.
1997 Eighty-eight members of Congress sign a letter
demanding an investigation into bioweapons use & Gulf War
Syndrome.
Ivan Gowch
wrote:
==>On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:54:05 -0800, be gentle with me wrote:
==>
==>>- are we living in a country that is beginning to disrespect people
==>> more - have > we become mere masses, fed lies too.
==>
==>
==>
==>Ever heard of the Miranda decision? Prior to that ruling, police beatings
==>to gain a confession were common. After the Miranda court decision, we
==>enjoyed a brief period where it was popular to limit the powers
==>of the police. The government and their enforcement people (police) found
==>this annoying.
==>
==>Since the start of the drug war, the propaganda machine, backed by the
==>courts, has been in high gear supporting much illegal conduct. Since our
==>"sheeple" have hardly made a bleat, government behavior has overtly
==>decended to it's lowest point in some years. Think government torture
==>and detention without trial or charges.
[snip]
The U.S. system of "justice" is a tragic joke,
and everyone knows it. Canada's is little
better.
Police abuse, and sometimes kill, innocent persons
at will. Cops plant evidence, they lie, they coerce
confessions and they commit perjury. Many are,
simply, criminals.
Prosecutors suborn perjury. They introduce "evidence"
they know is false, they fail to disclose and try to
suppress exculpatory evidence and they knowingly
prosecute innocent people.
The laws against some drugs are primarily a means
to give the cops an open-ended warrant for search
and seizure and a mechanism to keep poor people,
young people and especially poor, young *black*
people fearful, off-balance and easy to control.
The U.S. law that mandates heavier penalties for crack
cocaine possession than for the powdered Hollywood
variety is an outrageous act of oppression aimed at
ensuring that blacks are punished more harshly than
whites for the same offence.
Criminal court judges, for the most part, are in
collusion with the cops and prosecutors and many
wouldn't know justice if God came down from Heaven
and handed it to them on a golden platter.
The result is that in the U.S., almost one in four (23
per cent) black men in the age group 20-29 is either
in prison, jail, on probation, or parole on any given
day (four times that of whites). The number of young
black men under the control of the criminal justice
system is greater than the total number of black men
of all ages enrolled in college as of 1996. It's
almost certainly worse today.
That the system is a blunt weapon for the continued
oppression of black people -- and, in a larger sense,
poor people -- is so obvious it needs no further
assertion.
The prisons are overflowing with people who have
never harmed a soul, and uncounted thousands
who are innocent of the crimes they were convicted
of.
The system must be brought down. It must be
strangled, clogged and made so unworkable that it
collapses under its own corrupt weight. Once the
system grinds to a halt, the powers-that-be will
panic, the legislators will be forced to act and the
laws will change.
Accomplishing this may not be as difficult as it
sounds. What it will take is to educate young people
-- and especially young BLACK people -- to follow a
few simple rules when dealing with the authorities.
The rules should be posted in foot-high letters on
billboards in every city. They should be scrawled as
graffiti on every ghetto wall. They should be taped
to lockers in schools and carved into police-cell
walls and posted all over the Internet. They should
be set to a beat and turned into a hip-hop song.
They should be seen wherever people who are the
system's favourite targets gather.
If everyone followed the rules to the letter, the
system would stumble to a halt under its own
ponderous weight. And then, either the laws would
change in an attempt to eliminate injustice, or the
system would be forced to cast off its mask and
reveal the monster police state lurking underneath.
If that happens, there can be only one response, and
that's to take it to the streets, dismantle the
motherfucker and start afresh.
The rules fall into two categories: Stymie the Cops,
and Get Your Rights -- ALL Your Rights.
You've waited long enough. Here are
THE RULES OF RESISTANCE
NEVER tell the police anything the law doesn't require
you to tell.
(According to a disastrous U.S. Supreme Court
decision in June 2004, that means your name
only [unless you're driving a car].
Practice these words for all other cop
questions: "I'd rather not say.")
NEVER consent to a search of your person, your
vehicle, your possessions or your residence.
(Insist they get a warrant. If they
search without one, they generally can't
use as evidence whatever they might find.)
NEVER confess. To anything. Never admit to
anything.
(If arrested, say "I want to speak to a
lawyer." Say nothing until you have. Never
believe the cops when they tell you things
will "go easier with you" if you give a
statement, turn in your partner or point them
towards evidence. This is the biggest lie
cops tell, everyone knows it and yet, dumb
motherfuckers fall for it every day. Don't
be a dumb motherfucker.)
NEVER discuss your case with cellmates or others
in or out of jail.
(Assume everyone you meet in jail is a
police informant. Many of them are.)
NEVER plea bargain.
ALWAYS demand a lawyer.
(From the moment you are arrested,
tell the cops you want to speak to a lawyer.
At the police station, tell everyone you
come into contact with that you want a
lawyer. Don't talk to the cops until you've
spoken with a lawyer.)
ALWAYS plead not guilty.
(Even if you're guilty as hell. Make them
prove it. Often, they won't be able to
if you don't help them.)
ALWAYS demand a full jury trial.
(Use the rights you have. Challenge
jurors. Drag out the process. Make it
as expensive as possible for the State.)
ALWAYS appeal, if you are convicted.
ALWAYS pass on these rules to everyone you know.
===
There they are. Ten simple rules that hold awesome
power.
Skeptical? Good. But think about it.
Can you imagine what the impact would be on the
system if every single mother's son picked
up by the cops refused to co-operate? Refused to
tell them where he threw the dope, declined to
identify the other dudes who were hanging out
on the street corner, withheld permission for a
search, demanded a lawyer, refused to confess or
make a deal and insisted on a trial, complete with a
jury of his peers? Do you think the system could
withstand that for long?
It could not. The system sustains itself only because
it is a revolving door into which the vast majority of
its victims are sucked into the vicious vortex of
arrest, bargain, confession, guilty plea, prison.
Kind of like a giant garbage disposal unit.
But there are not enough public defenders
to represent more than a small percentage of charged
persons if *everyone* demanded a lawyer and pleaded
not guilty, not enough prosecutors to prosecute them,
not enough courtrooms to try them in and not enough
judges to fall asleep during their trials. Just
finding enough people to sit on the vastly increased
number of juries that would be required would throttle
the system into paralysis.
And consider the effects on the police, if they knew
that every single sonofabitch they charged would
eventually face them in court, demanding to see their
evidence, with a lawyer at their side to challenge
their every lie.
The costs of running the system would rise
astronomically. It could not be sustained. Things
would change. And change is good.
So here they are again. The rules. Pass them on.
Post them. Give them to your friends.
Think about it -- revolution without firing a shot.
You have nothing to lose except the gun in your
back.
THE RULES OF RESISTANCE
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NEVER tell the police anything.
NEVER consent to a search.
NEVER confess.
NEVER discuss your case with others.
NEVER plea bargain.
ALWAYS demand a lawyer.
ALWAYS plead not guilty.
ALWAYS demand a full jury trial.
ALWAYS appeal, if you are convicted.
ALWAYS pass on these rules.
--
Where you find the laws most numerous, there you will find also the
greatest injustice. - Arcesilaus
Wonko The Sane
"Ivan Gowch" <ivan...@SPAMTHEENOTyahoo.ca> wrote in message
> The system must be brought down. It must be
> strangled, clogged and made so unworkable that it
> collapses under its own corrupt weight. Once the
> system grinds to a halt, the powers-that-be will
> panic, the legislators will be forced to act and the
> laws will change.
No need to unmask yourself though, the 'American sheep'
have figured you out already. They voted for GW
instead of your loser Kerry.
Try again in four years! Maybe we will be duped
into voting for your traitor next time around!
Andrew
>
> The laws against some drugs are primarily a means
> to give the cops an open-ended warrant for search
> and seizure and a mechanism to keep poor people,
> young people and especially poor, young *black*
> people fearful, off-balance and easy to control.
>
> The U.S. law that mandates heavier penalties for crack
> cocaine possession than for the powdered Hollywood
> variety is an outrageous act of oppression aimed at
> ensuring that blacks are punished more harshly than
> whites for the same offence.
>
>
Funny thing. A few years back, one influential black preacher started
speading the word that the drug war was discriminatory and designed to
keep blacks under state control. The media started to cover his message -
then - poof - he disappeared completely.
>
> The system must be brought down. It must be
> strangled, clogged and made so unworkable that it
> collapses under its own corrupt weight. Once the
> system grinds to a halt, the powers-that-be will
> panic, the legislators will be forced to act and the
> laws will change.
>
Aya. Sooner the better.
>
> THE RULES OF RESISTANCE
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> NEVER tell the police anything.
> NEVER consent to a search.
> NEVER confess.
> NEVER discuss your case with others.
> NEVER plea bargain.
> ALWAYS demand a lawyer.
> ALWAYS plead not guilty.
> ALWAYS demand a full jury trial.
> ALWAYS appeal, if you are convicted.
> ALWAYS pass on these rules.
These rules are only common sense. I wonder why *anyone*, regardless of
race, would be stupid enough to violate them.
Andrew
> Finally, an honest subversive.
> No need to unmask yourself though, the 'American sheep'
> have figured you out already. They voted for GW
> instead of your loser Kerry.
> Try again in four years! Maybe we will be duped
> into voting for your traitor next time around!
Democarts, republicians. Opposite side of the same coin.
Demopublicians support the status quo - working to destroy
our republic and every foreign land that refuses to support
them.
Ivan Gowch
wrote:
IG:
==>> The system must be brought down. It must be
==>> strangled, clogged and made so unworkable that it
==>> collapses under its own corrupt weight. Once the
==>> system grinds to a halt, the powers-that-be will
==>> panic, the legislators will be forced to act and the
==>> laws will change.
==>Finally, an honest subversive.
Hey, I like that.
I may just use it as a .sig.
==>No need to unmask yourself though, the 'American sheep'
==>have figured you out already. They voted for GW
==>instead of your loser Kerry.
As I said . . . sheep to the slaughter. Looks good on
you.
==>Try again in four years! Maybe we will be duped
==>into voting for your traitor next time around!
More perceptive than you know.
In the United Snakes, that's the choice the
sheep get: This traitor or that one. Makes
no fucking difference. Both traitors work
for the same corporations, and both will
eventually screw you.
But hey, brainless. Be my guest. In four years,
vote again for the biggest rightoid corporate
turd you can find and watch while he continues the
work of dismantling everything that has ever
made the country worth living in.
I will be up here, laughing my ass off as I'm doing
now.
--
The Republican party is the deadly enemy of peace,
freedom, justice and human rights everywhere.
The world won't be safe until its destruction is
complete.
-Ivan Gowch
justdabbling
the University of Cincinnati - 77 people were irradiated with
varying doses of 150, 200, and 250 rads. 25 people died within a month
or two of being irradiated, 19 within 38 days. Of the people who
recieved the high doses, 42% died within 60 days, most of them within
half that time (source: Martha Stephens - "An annotated record of
certain short survivors of the U.C. radiation experiments"). As they
people began to die, what did the research assistants and study
administrators think? Did anyone's conscience prick them enough to
'leak' the murders to the press? Did the research Ph.D's/MD's glady
publish their findings, patting one another on their backs, as the
people died. How did they find these victims? What did they tell
their families, or the study subjects themselves. If the National
Institute of cancer funded this study, who approved their grant - what
branch of government prompted this study - for I'm sure the Department
of Environmental Health or some similar governmental facility was
behind this. We should stop animal testing, and use our massive
knowledge data bases, to work up a disease model, to simulate
conditions, symptoms, and treatments, etc.
Ivan Gowch
wrote:
IG:
==>> THE RULES OF RESISTANCE
==>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
==>>
==>> NEVER tell the police anything.
==>> NEVER consent to a search.
==>> NEVER confess.
==>> NEVER discuss your case with others.
==>> NEVER plea bargain.
==>> ALWAYS demand a lawyer.
==>> ALWAYS plead not guilty.
==>> ALWAYS demand a full jury trial.
==>> ALWAYS appeal, if you are convicted.
==>> ALWAYS pass on these rules.
==>These rules are only common sense. I wonder why *anyone*, regardless of
==>race, would be stupid enough to violate them.
Well, I assume you saw the post from a
specimen who fancies himself "Wonko The Sane,"
who called me a "subversive," while gloating
over the election victory of George W. Bush.
That's the kind of stone-stupid pile of animated
dog vomit they allow to run around free these
days -- someone who definitely sounds stupid
enough to disregard rules designed to promote
his welfare.
Aaah, what can you do, eh?
Hang in there, buddy. . . .
I. R. Heller
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To answer this last statement, let me re-post the following from yesterday
under "cause and effect":
This conversation below, makes me give this information, possibly not known
to everyone.
Does anyone know what "stoping (for) oil" means ??
Kuwait was for many years stoping into Iraqi oil reserves (drilling across
the border into the neighboring reserves).
At a diplomatic meeting before Desert Strom et al the American Ambassador
was asked by an Iraqi official what could/should be done about Kuwait´s
stoping into Iraqi oil veins.
The answer by the American Ambassador was: "We shall not interfere".
I heard that taped statement which was part of a radio news broadcast at
that time.
- - - The rest is history. - - -
We aim to learn from our mistakes - so it is rumored.
So, if nothing else, we ought to teach our younger generation now, by this
drastic sample of the cause and effect, the responsibility which comes
*also* with every *spoken* word. - -
Try to have a Happy Easter.
Be well,
I. R. Heller
Andrew
> Who allows these studies to be carried out?
Monsters. Pure and simple monsters.
Do you have a cite to information on this radiation study??
Wonko The Sane
"Ivan Gowch" <ivan...@SPAMTHEENOTyahoo.ca> wrote in message
> I will be up here, laughing my ass off as I'm doing
> now.
So how come all your Chinese and Hindu immigrants
are trying to claw their way across the border
to USA? Are they allergic to bong smoke?
justdabbling
look what queen elizabeth the 1st did to the spanish, and look what the
spanish did to the native americans, and look what the native americans
did to the whites, and look what the whites did to them - where the
hell does one stop, and say, enough.
Ivan Gowch
wrote:
==>Oh boy - talk about buttering the right side of your bread - but then
==>look what queen elizabeth the 1st did to the spanish, and look what the
==>spanish did to the native americans, and look what the native americans
==>did to the whites, and look what the whites did to them - where the
==>hell does one stop, and say, enough.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Do you think it might be a good idea to quote a
few lines from the post to which you are
replying, so your long-suffering readers have
a clue what your golden prose is referring to?
Perhaps you should stop dabbling until you
learn how to post properly.
Patrick
"Ivan Gowch" <ivan...@SPAMTHEENOTyahoo.ca> wrote in message
Well Ivan, with that high tech, fancy newsreader you have, I'm suprised
you're unable to figure out what he's referring to. Try "Thread" view.