NY Post: It’s Now Looking Like The Lockdowns May Have Been A Huge Mistake

[Andrew W]

NY Post: It’s Now Looking Like The Lockdowns May Have Been A Huge Mistake

https://humansarefree.com/2020/10/ny-post-lockdowns-huge-mistake.html


Were lockdowns a mistake? To that nagging question, the answer increasingly
seems to be yes.

Certainly, they were a novelty. As novelist Lionel Shriver writes, “We’ve
never before responded to a contagion by closing down whole countries.”

As I’ve noted, the 1957-58 Asian flu killed between 70,000 and 116,000
Americans, between 0.04 percent and 0.07 percent of the nation’s population.
The 1968-70 Hong Kong flu killed about 100,000, 0.05 percent of the
population.

The US coronavirus death toll of 186,000 is 0.055 percent of the current
population. It will go higher, but it’s about the same magnitude as those
two flus, and it has been less deadly to those under 65 than the flus were.

Yet there were no statewide lockdowns; no massive school closings; no
closings of office buildings and factories, restaurants and museums. No one
considered shutting down Woodstock.

Why are attitudes so different today? Perhaps we have greater confidence in
government’s effectiveness. If public policy can affect climate change, it
can stamp out a virus.

Plus, we’re much more risk-averse. Children aren’t allowed to walk to
school; jungle gyms have vanished from playgrounds; college students are
shielded from microaggressions.

We have a “safetyism mindset,” as Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff write in
“The Coddling of the American Mind,” under which “many aspects of students’
lives needed to be carefully regulated by adults.”

So the news of the COVID-19 virus killing dozens and overloading hospitals
in Bergamo, Italy, triggered a flight to safety and restriction.

Many Americans stopped going to restaurants and shops even before the
lockdowns were ordered in March and April.

The exaggerated projections of some epidemiologists, with a professional
interest in forecasting pandemics, triggered demands that governments act.

The legitimate fears that hospitals would be overwhelmed apparently explain
the (in retrospect, deadly) orders of the governors of New York, New Jersey,
Pennsylvania and Michigan requiring elderly care facilities to admit
COVID-infected patients.

And the original purpose to “flatten the curve” segued into “stamp out the
virus.”

But the apparent success of South Korea and island nations — Taiwan,
Singapore, New Zealand — in doing so could never be replicated in the
continental, globalized United States.

Governors imposing continued lockdowns claimed to be “following the
science.” But only in one dimension: reducing the immediate number of
COVID-19 cases.

The lockdowns also prevented cancer screenings, heart-attack treatment and
substance-abuse counseling, the absence of which resulted in a large but
hard-to-estimate number of deaths.

UK Gov’t Scientist Admits: Lockdown Was A ‘Monumental Mistake On A Global
Scale’

What Haidt and Lukianoff call “vindictive protectiveness” turned out to be
not very protective.

Examples include shaming beachgoers though outdoor virus spread is minimal;
extending school shutdowns though few children get or transmit the
infection; closing down gardening aisles in superstores; and barring church
services while blessing inevitably noisy and crowded demonstrations for
politically favored causes.

The new thinking on lockdowns, as Greg Ip reported in the Wall Street
Journal last week, is that “they’re overly blunt and costly.”

That supports President Trump’s mid-April statement that:

“A prolonged lockdown combined with a forced economic depression would
inflict an immense and wide-ranging toll on public health.”

For many, that economic damage has been of Great Depression proportions.

Restaurants and small businesses have been closed forever, even before the
last three months of “mostly peaceful” urban rioting.

Losses have been concentrated on those with low income and little wealth,
while lockdowns have added tens of billions to the net worth of Amazon’s
Jeff Bezos and Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg.

The anti-lockdown blogger (and former New York Times reporter) Alex Berenson
makes a powerful case that lockdowns delayed, rather than prevented,
infections.

There are old lessons here. Governments can sometimes channel but never
entirely control nature. There is no way to entirely eliminate risk.

Attempts to reduce one risk may increase others. Amid uncertainty, people
make mistakes. Like, maybe, the lockdowns.


https://humansarefree.com/2020/10/ny-post-lockdowns-huge-mistake.html



http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site

[M I Wakefield]

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 08:41:36 +1100, "Andrew W"
<spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>
>NY Post: It’s Now Looking Like The Lockdowns May Have Been A Huge Mistake

But your huge mistake was paying attention to anything published by
the Rupert Murdoch-owned NY Post.

Absolute fucking fuckwit.

[Andrew W]

"M I Wakefield" wrote in message
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And where do you get your info from, spastic.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <t6epofh54t32ffnvp...@4ax.com>,

(Looks askance at citing NY Post in light of recent stories.)

Reputation matters.

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[Ted]

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 15:08:03 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <t6epofh54t32ffnvp...@4ax.com>,
> M I Wakefield <no...@present.com> wrote:


> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 08:41:36 +1100, "Andrew W"
> > <spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >NY Post: It s Now Looking Like The Lockdowns May Have Been A
Huge Mistake
> >
> > But your huge mistake was paying attention to anything published
by
> > the Rupert Murdoch-owned NY Post.
> >
> > Absolute fucking fuckwit.


> (Looks askance at citing NY Post in light of recent stories.)


> Reputation matters.

Because they're influenced by Russia, right?

[Andrew W]

"Siri Cruise" wrote in message
news:chine.bleu-E7E21...@reader.eternal-september.org...

>In article <t6epofh54t32ffnvp...@4ax.com>,
> M I Wakefield <no...@present.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 08:41:36 +1100, "Andrew W"
>> <spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >NY Post: It’s Now Looking Like The Lockdowns May Have Been A Huge
>> >Mistake
>>
>> But your huge mistake was paying attention to anything published by
>> the Rupert Murdoch-owned NY Post.
>>
>> Absolute fucking fuckwit.
>
>(Looks askance at citing NY Post in light of recent stories.)
>
>Reputation matters.
>

Some people (not saying you) obviously don't know that all news services
publish some truth and some untruths. Some are not smart or informed enough
to be able to determine who's corrupt and who's honest. No service is 100%
true or false.

The following site has a very humble name but has more truth than any
mainstream site.

[M I Wakefield]

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:45:02 +1100, "Andrew W"
<spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>The following site has a very humble name but has more truth than any
>mainstream site.
>
>http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site

Alex Jones and Q-anon?

Way to prove you're an absolute fuckwit, Fuckwit.

[Andrew W]

"M I Wakefield" wrote in message

news:opppof9s1sjv9gbou...@4ax.com...

>On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:45:02 +1100, "Andrew W"
><spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>The following site has a very humble name but has more truth than any
>>mainstream site.
>>
>>http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site
>
>Alex Jones and Q-anon?
>

You don't know the first thing about them. And you can't judge what's true.

>
>Way to prove you're an absolute fuckwit, Fuckwit.
>

Ad hominems indicate low IQ.


Regarding covid, take a look at this post and then take a look at yourself.
https://alien-ufo-sightings.mn.co/posts/8994719


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[M I Wakefield]

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 13:11:54 +1100, "Andrew W"

<spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>"M I Wakefield" wrote in message
>news:opppof9s1sjv9gbou...@4ax.com...
>
>>On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:45:02 +1100, "Andrew W"
>><spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>The following site has a very humble name but has more truth than any
>>>mainstream site.
>>>
>>>http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site
>>
>>Alex Jones and Q-anon?
>>
>
>You don't know the first thing about them. And you can't judge what's true.

I know Alex Jones is getting his fucking ass handed to him by Sandy
Hook parents, after he claimed repeatedly that their children really
weren't murdered, and he richly deserves it.

And I know Qanon is having a really bad weekend because JFK Jr. was
supposed to reveal himself yesterday, and was a no-show. Just like
every other day since his plane nose-dived into the Atlantic.

And I know that anyone who is an adherent of either, never mind both,
is a fuckwit.

And guess what that makes you, Fuckwit?

[Ted]

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 13:11:54 +1100, "Andrew W"

<spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "M I Wakefield" wrote in message
> news:opppof9s1sjv9gbou...@4ax.com...


> >On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:45:02 +1100, "Andrew W"
> ><spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >>The following site has a very humble name but has more truth than
any
> >>mainstream site.
> >>
> >>http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site
> >
> >Alex Jones and Q-anon?
> >


> You don't know the first thing about them. And you can't judge
what's true.

Correct on both.

> >Way to prove you're an absolute fuckwit, Fuckwit.

> Ad hominems indicate low IQ.

It's not ad hom. He's applying an axiom he's been programmed to
uncritically accept, i.e. "Alex Jones reader = fuckwit".

> Regarding covid, take a look at this post and then take a look at
yourself.
> https://alien-ufo-sightings.mn.co/posts/8994719

LOL. But I'm practically immune to the MSM's bullshit and I recognize
the need for us to contain the virus as much as we can. Unless
there's a vaccine, most of us will get it eventually, but the
objective now is to prevent the hospitals from being overloaded.

[Ted]

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 23:25:28 -0400, M I Wakefield <no...@present.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 13:11:54 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


> >"M I Wakefield" wrote in message
> >news:opppof9s1sjv9gbou...@4ax.com...
> >
> >>On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:45:02 +1100, "Andrew W"
> >><spam_a...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>>The following site has a very humble name but has more truth
than any
> >>>mainstream site.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site
> >>
> >>Alex Jones and Q-anon?
> >>
> >
> >You don't know the first thing about them. And you can't judge
what's true.


> I know Alex Jones is getting his fucking ass handed to him by Sandy
> Hook parents, after he claimed repeatedly that their children really
> weren't murdered, and he richly deserves it.


> And I know Qanon is having a really bad weekend because JFK Jr. was
> supposed to reveal himself yesterday, and was a no-show. Just like
> every other day since his plane nose-dived into the Atlantic.

Qanon suckered in a bunch of them. But its ludicrous predictions will
continue until it finally dissolves completely, which won't be too
much longer.

I don't know much about Alex Jones, but I'll always remember how the
fascists with Bill Maher, both his guests and his audience, reacted
when he suggested that Jones's censoring was contrary to their
liberal values.