Helen Dickey... again
jmcclain
A while back, I had asked a question about Helen Dickey: Is she
related to M. Jane Dickey, a partner in the Rose Law Firm? Tim Watson
thought that it was unlikely, since Helen Dickey was from Georgia.
However, it turns out that this is not really true. Furthermore, I'm
beginning to think that they are indeed related; Jane Dickey is
probably Helen Dickey's mother. It's not a trivial issue, either.
1. "Helen Dickey worked for Governor Clinton in Arkansas as the
assistant to the governor’s mansion administrator. She became staff
assistant to the White House Social Secretary. Between January 1993
and November 1994, Ms. Dickey lived in a suite of rooms in the
northeast corner of the third floor of the White House Residence."
[Dickey, 2/12/96 Dep., p. 11.; Dickey, 2/12/96 Dep. p. 12.]
2. "Ms. Dickey, visibly shaken, went to the second floor kitchen and
called her mother from the kitchen telephone. After talking with her
mother for two to three minutes, Ms. Dickey called her father, who
lived in a suburb of Atlanta, Georgia." [Dickey, 2/12/96 Dep. p. 49;
2/14/96 Hrg. p. 59.]
3. Helen Dickey told the Senate committee, "Vince Foster was very
close to our family, lived next door to them in Little Rock... I
called Ann McCoy... who also knew Mr. Foster LIVED DOWN THE STREET."
[Senate testimony, 2/14/96; emphasis mine]
Thus, it is clear that Helen Dickey lived in Arkansas before moving to
the White House. Her father lived in Atlanta in 1993, but there is no
indication that Helen Dickey ever lived in Georgia. The phrasing of
item #2 suggests that her mother did *not* live in Georgia.
Furthermore, Helen Dickey had lived either next door to, or down the
street from, Vince Foster while in Little Rock.
4. The White Pages available on the Web, astonishingly, still list
"Vincent W. Foster's" address:
5414 Stonewall Road
Little Rock, AR 72207-4526
5. There is a listing for an "M. J. Dickey" in the same White Pages:
5817 S. Country Club Boulevard
Little Rock, AR 72207-4303
6. I looked up Stonewall Road & S. Country Club Blvd. on MapQuest.
Here is an ASCII version of the map (you'll have to view this with a
fixed-width font to see it properly):
| | | | | |
| +-------------------+ +-------+ |
| N Country Club Blvd |
| +-------------------+ +-------+ |
| | | | | +----
--+ | | | |
| | | | +----
--+ | | | | |
| | | | | |
| +-------------------+ +-------+ |
| S Country Club Blvd |
| +-------------------+ +-------+ +--------------
| | | | | Stonewall Road
| | | | | +--------------
S. Country Club Blvd is a very short street and merges with Stonewall
Road. So, whoever M. J. Dickey is, he/she does indeed live down the
street from Vince Foster's former residence.
7. M. Jane Dickey is a partner at the Rose Law Firm. She was born June
26, 1948, in Pine Bluff, Arkansas. She graduated from the Univ. of
Arkansas in 1971 and from the Univ. of Oklahoma law school in 1977.
(Law School is typically 3 years long. If Helen Dickey is her
daughter, she was probably born 1971-1974, making her ~22-25 years
old.)
8. It is the kind of work M. Jane Dickey does that is interesting:
Chairman, Bond Attorneys' Workshop; member, National Association of
Bond Lawyers; practice area, Public Finance Law. Maybe Tim Watson can
help us out here, but it looks like her specialty is STATE BOND ISSUES
(ADFA???). [Martindale-Hubbell Legal Directory]
9. A relationship between Helen Dickey & M. Jane Dickey also adds some
complication to the phone calls Helen Dickey made on July 20, 1993.
She may have been more than just a family friend; indeed, her mother
(?) may have worked side-by-side with Bill Kennedy, Hillary Clinton,
and Vince Foster.
I really hope someone can add more information; I would like to
determine whether or not these two women are related. If so, I think
we need to find out what particular cases M. Jane Dickey has handled.
(BTW, Jane Dickey was honored last year by Boatmen's Bank - formerly
Worthen Bank - as an outstanding professional woman.)
--
jmcclain
jmcc...@atl.mindspring.com
Tim Watson
Excellent post - shows a great deal of work to get at the facts.
Since I told this poster some time ago that I didn't think the two women are
related - I still think that Helen Dickey was born and raised in Georgia, but
I certainly may be mistaken - I will call someone in Little Rock Monday and
find out. I think I can do so, although any such inquiries to the Rose Firm
are not welcome.
Jane Dickey most certainly is involved in ADFA lending, as bond attorney for
any number of issues.
It may be of interest that new Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee yesterday
cleaned house at ADFA, firing its Executive Director and appointing a new CEO
with no prior connection to the "old gang" at ADFA, and that this new CEO
came in and immediately fired two of the top honchos at the agency. The
Board of Directors that oversees the agency are political appointees, and
can't be touched by Huckabee until their terms expire, but he is not playing
games with the hired help. The day of using ADFA as a piggybank for favored
political donors is over.
Tim Watson
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Billy Beck
jmcc...@atl.mindspring.com (jmcclain) wrote:
(...)
>9. A relationship between Helen Dickey & M. Jane Dickey also adds some
>complication to the phone calls Helen Dickey made on July 20, 1993.
>She may have been more than just a family friend; indeed, her mother
>(?) may have worked side-by-side with Bill Kennedy, Hillary Clinton,
>and Vince Foster.
Very intriguing, Julie. The call to Helen's mother bugs me. It seems
really incongruous on its face. If it was *me* in the White House
that day, I think a call to my mom would probably sit on the back
burner for a day or two...unless there was a compelling reason for it.
I wonder what it could have been.
>I really hope someone can add more information; I would like to
>determine whether or not these two women are related. If so, I think
>we need to find out what particular cases M. Jane Dickey has handled.
Why? What's the angle?
Billy
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"Anthology"
jmcclain
wj...@mindspring.com (Billy Beck) wrote:
>jmcc...@atl.mindspring.com (jmcclain) wrote:
> (...)
>>9. A relationship between Helen Dickey & M. Jane Dickey also adds some
>>complication to the phone calls Helen Dickey made on July 20, 1993.
>>She may have been more than just a family friend; indeed, her mother
>>(?) may have worked side-by-side with Bill Kennedy, Hillary Clinton,
>>and Vince Foster.
> Very intriguing, Julie. The call to Helen's mother bugs me. It seems
>really incongruous on its face. If it was *me* in the White House
>that day, I think a call to my mom would probably sit on the back
>burner for a day or two...unless there was a compelling reason for it.
> I wonder what it could have been.
Good question. It's also strange that she called her former boss in
Arkansas, as well as the governor's mansion. The Senate Whitewater
report lays out the extent to which the White House stonewalled about
the phone records. (It's in the section "Summary of the Evidence. July
20, 1993.) The White House *still* has not produced any phone records
documenting Helen Dickey's various calls from the White House.
It's still unclear that if Helen Dickey called the governor's mansion
when the troopers said she did, she did so from the White House. The
report states: "Records maintained by the Secret Service indicate that
Ms. Dickey entered the White House Residence at 7:32 p.m." Where was
she before that?
>>I really hope someone can add more information; I would like to
>>determine whether or not these two women are related. If so, I think
>>we need to find out what particular cases M. Jane Dickey has handled.
> Why? What's the angle?
I was curious about the kind of work Jane Dickey did for Rose. Tim
Watson confirmed that she *has* done bond work involving ADFA. I'm
interested in ADFA because there are or were a number of its veterans
with White House ties, and it really seems like a corrupt
organization.
--
jmcclain
jmcc...@atl.mindspring.com
jmcclain
>Since I told this poster some time ago that I didn't think the two women are
>related - I still think that Helen Dickey was born and raised in Georgia, but
>I certainly may be mistaken - I will call someone in Little Rock Monday and
>find out. I think I can do so, although any such inquiries to the Rose Firm
>are not welcome.
Thank you for the reply. You are quite right - I should have phrased
it more carefully. I didn't find anything that indicated whether or
not Helen Dickey grew up in Georgia. I should have said that there was
evidence only that she lived in Arkansas before going to the White
House. I also appreciate your help with the Rose Law Firm, and I
definitely understand that it's a ticklish thing to confirm with them.
>Jane Dickey most certainly is involved in ADFA lending, as bond attorney for
>any number of issues.
>It may be of interest that new Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee yesterday
>cleaned house at ADFA, firing its Executive Director and appointing a new CEO
>with no prior connection to the "old gang" at ADFA, and that this new CEO
>came in and immediately fired two of the top honchos at the agency. The
>Board of Directors that oversees the agency are political appointees, and
>can't be touched by Huckabee until their terms expire, but he is not playing
>games with the hired help. The day of using ADFA as a piggybank for favored
>political donors is over.
This is interesting information I had not heard. I'll bet there are a
lot of people in Arkansas hoping for some reform now.
--
jmcclain
jmcc...@atl.mindspring.com
Steven H. Findeiss
jmcclain, in a phenomenal bit of detective work, posted this quote from
the prepared (i.e. written) congressional testimony of Helen Dickey:
: > 2. "Ms. Dickey, visibly shaken, went to the second floor kitchen and
: > called her mother from the kitchen telephone. After talking with her
: > mother for two to three minutes, Ms. Dickey called her father, who
: > lived in a suburb of Atlanta, Georgia." [Dickey, 2/12/96 Dep. p. 49;
: > 2/14/96 Hrg. p. 59.]
This may be revealing: Remember this is a prepared, written statement,
and was almost certainly crafted with the help of White House allies.
So note she mentions where her *father* lived. Why? What possible
interest does anyone have in that? But the statement doesn't feel it
necessary to accord the same importance to where *Mom* lives. Is this
an accident?
I can certainly see failing to mention where *either one* lived--after
all, it's presumably of no relevance to Dickey's story. But why mention
one but not the other? Well, look what effect that has: nearly every
reader automatically assumes Dickey's from...Atlanta. That got even
Tim Watson--no friend of Slick's.
Now in *oral* testimony, of course, young Helen has no hesitation to
say that her family lived down the street from VF, because *she* sees
no reason to be guarded about the information. After all, as she sees
it, this must be common knowledge. But whoever wrote her third-person
statement may have wanted to keep the info out of the record. --s