The Blacklist of Net.Nazis and Sandlot Bullies

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Charles Eicher

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In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:

> Charles Eicher <cei...@inav.net>
> (pathological liar and racist)

I am proud to be 'blacklisted' by such a kook as Fomin. All I ever did was
publicly announce I killfiled him. And the charges of racism are typical
BS, since I've consistently spoken out AGAINST racism on the internet.

Fomin: **REPLONK**

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Charles Eicher
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Vladimir Fomin

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Anonymous <edmc...@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
("Follower of a clawed albino")
Anonymous <dhar...@kendaco.telebyte.com>
(pathological liar)
Anonymous <tre...@slip.net>
(pathological liar)
Anonymous <jpet...@counsel.com>
(homosexual, harasses "homophobes", advocates censorship)
Anonymous <gad...@schoolnet.carleton.ca>
(forges cancels)
Anonymous <gent...@xmission.com>
(flaming bully, anonymously voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Anonymous "Rev. Modemac" <mod...@netcom.com>
(homosexual)
Anonymous "Evil Sofa" <flo...@eskimo.com>
(pathological liar)
Anonymous "Nix" <cs9...@brunel.ac.uk>
(pathological liar)
Anonymous "henry" <anon...@nyx.cs.du.edu>
(homosexual)
Anonymous "Hui-Hui Hu" <hh...@stardot.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Anonymous "Lavender <l...@rahul.net>
(homosexual, harasses "homophobes", advocates censorship)
Anonymous "Magenta" <ni...@gate.net>
(homosexual, advocates censorship of "homophobes")
Anonymous "Sheridan" <cbst...@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
(pathological liar)
Anonymous Smarasderagd <sma...@turing.toronto.edu>
(votes "NO")
Steve Adams <ad...@spss.com>
(tel: +1 312 329 3522, fax: +1 312 329 3558)
Pekka Ala-Honkola <pekka.al...@hut.fi>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Seth Alberts <alb...@ctsd2.jsc.nasa.gov>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Richard M. Alderson III <alde...@netcom.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Melissa Algeo <al...@monolith.mit.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Russ Allbery <r...@xenon.stanford.edu>
(also <r...@cs.stanford.edu>, <ea...@cyclone.stanford.edu>, <ea...@eyrie.org>,
"CS Concurrency Group Research Assistant, Distributed Computing Operations",
voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, impersonates a sysadmin, apparently homosexual)
Mark Allen <mal...@nwu.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Nigel Allen <nigel...@utoronto.ca>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Henry Alme <hja...@ucdavis.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Christopher J. Ambler <ch...@punknet.callamer.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jacob Sparre Andersen <spa...@phyast.pitt.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ken Arromdee <arro...@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu>
(also <karr...@nyx.cs.du.edu>, pathological liar, 2905 Charles St. #106,
Baltimore, MD 21218)
William G. Aten III <bi...@netagw.com>
(flaming bully, usenet volunteer votetaker, admin Computerizers, 2728 Socorro
Loop, Holloman AFB, NM 88330-8123, +1 505 479 9055)
John E. Austin <je...@cornell.edu>
(flaming bully, Boyce Thompson Institute, 254-1202)
Ulf Bahrenfuss <wan...@kingkong.escape.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
James Baier <t...@wimsey.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ed Bailey <bai...@hagar.ph.utexas.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Richard Bainter <p...@arlut.utexas.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Balaji <bal...@nexus.yorku.ca>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Mark Ball <m...@piglet.portable.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Don Ballard <dbal...@ix.netcom.com>
(votes "NO")
Afzal Ballim <af...@divsun.unige.ch>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
George Baltz <g...@n3gb.umd.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Christian Balzer <c...@brewhq.swb.de>
(flaming bully, Nazi)
Dave Barr <ba...@math.psu.edu>
(pathological liar, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, co-moderator of
news.admin.net-abuse.announce and comp.unix.wizards, 517 Hetzel St., State
College, PA 16801, +1 814 861 7531, alt.config control freak)
Tony Basoglu <tb...@sybase.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Mike Bates <mi...@ssd.fsi.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ron Bauerle <bau...@crypt.erie.ge.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bruce Baugh <bru...@teleport.com>
(homosexual, manager of "christlib" mailing list, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m},
has other mental problems (memory loss), seeks to slience "homophobes")
Michael Bauser <mba...@kentvm.kent.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Andy Beals <ba...@cinnamon.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bart Beaty <popa...@po-box.mcgill.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Alexander C. Beckers <beck...@unvax.union.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Johann Beda <jebg...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David Bedno <drs...@gorn.iuma.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Mike Beebe <stuk...@shellx.best.com>
(flaming bully)
Colin Bell <cr...@cus.cam.ac.uk>
(voted Y- on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jon Bell <jtb...@cs1.presby.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Anne Bennett <an...@alcor.concordia.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Peter Berger <pet...@telerama.lm.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Dan "Shag" Birchall <sh...@emanon.net>
(votes "NO")
Al Black <a...@debra.dgbt.doc.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Greg Black <g...@gba.oz.au>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Kevin Blackburn <ke...@fairbruk.demon.co.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Brian Blackmore <b...@gryphon.demon.co.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
C.E. Blackmun <ce...@eng.cam.ac.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Dave Blake <bl...@bard.mb.jhu.edu>
(sci.med.nutrition control freak)
John Blasik <jo...@mlb.semi.harris.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Spider Boardman <spi...@orb.nashua.nh.us>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Eric Bohlman <eboh...@netcom.com>
(pathological liar)
Axel Boldt <bo...@emile.math.ucsb.edu>
(keeps a blacklist of Usenet advertisers)
Patrick Bonacker <bona...@geomail.io-warnemuende.de>
(flaming bully and a Nazi)
Steve Bonine <s...@ntrs.com>
(pathological liar, usenet volunteer votetaker, admin of Northern Trust
Company, 125 South Wacker Dr, Chicago, IL 60606, +1 312 630 6282, (SB34))
Martin H. Booda <bo...@osh1.datasync.com>
(flaming bully)
Michael Borek <bo...@mda.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Steven D. Borrelli <st...@paranoia.mordor.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
S.W.F. Borthwick <sw...@bokop.win-uk.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Alan L. Bostick <abos...@netcom.com>
(homosexual, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, 680 66 St., Oakland, CA 94609,
+1 510 658 7176, fax: +1 510 601 9635)
David E. Bostwick <david.b...@chemistry.gatech.edu>
(flaming bully, also <db...@prism.gatech.edu>, usenet volunteer votetaker)
Peter G. Bouillon <boui...@cs.uni-sb.de>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Iain Bowen <ala...@harlech.demon.co.uk>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Mark Brader <m...@sq.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Edward J. Branley <ele...@yatcom.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Deepak Brar <deepa...@macsch.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David Brazendale <da...@masthead.demon.co.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Seth Breidbart <se...@panix.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, invented BI - the Breidbart Index, 205 West End
Ave, NY, NY 10023, +1 212 724 4154)
Sue Breish <sueb...@aol.com>
(also <Susan....@Greenhill.com>, soc.religion.vaishnava/hare krishna
control freak)
Tom Breton <t...@world.std.com>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
John Broughton <john_br...@ccmail.lbl.gov>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Alan Brown <al...@papaioea.manawatu.planet.co.nz>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Dwight Brown <stai...@bga.com>
(votes "NO")
Michael Buchenrieder <mi...@scrum.muc.de>
(Nazi, also <mi...@scrum.greenie.muc.de>)
Andrew C. Bulhak <a...@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au>
(pathological liar)
Lee S. Bumgarner <bumg...@falcon.jmu.edu>
(flaming bully)
Charleen Bunjiovianna <char...@net.bio.net>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Warren Burstein <war...@nysernet.org>
(flaming bully)
Andrew Burt <ab...@cs.du.edu>
(pathological liar, admin of nyx10.cs.du.edu, censors "homophobes")
Charles E. Bush <ned...@gate.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jim Byrd <jb...@tiac.net>
(flaming bully)
Arthur B. Byrne <ab...@fulton.seas.virginia.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
D'Arcy J.M. Cain <da...@druid.planix.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Robert S. Camm <r...@pipeline.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Peter Campbell <pet...@ic.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bill Canning <bi...@oseda.missouri.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Glenn Carnagey <lf...@midway.uchicago.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ofir Carny <s321...@techunix.technion.ac.il>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Joseph L. Casadonte Jr. <j...@netaxs.com>
(voted Y- on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Charles Castevens <pen...@cabell.vcu.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Piers Cawley <pdca...@ftech.co.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Derek Chee <dc...@uci.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David Christian <dc...@future.altcom.net>
(homosexual)
Lance K. Chun <lan...@cats.ucsc.edu>
(votes "NO")
Kevin Chung <kch...@Synopsys.Com>
(soc.culture.hawaii control freak)
Charles M. Cilek <cci...@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
J. Porter Clark <j...@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Robert W. F. Clark <rcl...@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Richard Clayton <ric...@turnpike.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ernest Cline <cl...@cs.scarolina.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Diane Barlow Close <cl...@lunch.engr.sgi.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Keith A. Cochran <ja...@netcom.com>
(homosexual, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bill Coderre <b...@wetware.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Maurizio Codogno <m...@beatles.cselt.stet.it>
(voted Y- on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jan Coekelberghs <jan.coek...@ping.be>
(votes "NO")
Ben Coleman <bcol...@mindspring.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Mitch Collinsworth <m...@graphics.cornell.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Paul Colquhoun <pau...@tpgi.com.au>
(flaming bully)
Christopher M. Conway <wom...@aquilagroup.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Richard Cook <rick...@cpcug.org>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Alan Coopersmith <al...@ocf.berkeley.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Allister Coots <a...@dce.vic.gov.au>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Christina Craft <tac...@ccs.carleton.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David W. Crawford <d...@panix.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, usually votes "NO")
Russell Crook <r...@gold.sni.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Preston Crow <cr...@coos.dartmouth.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Thomas Cuny <t...@mcs.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Peter Da Silva <pe...@bonkers.taronga.com>
(pathological liar and forger, also <pe...@mnti.com>, married to Stephanie,
voted -Y on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, co-moderator of news.admin.net-abuse.announce)
Stephanie Da Silva <ari...@bonkers.taronga.com>
(maintains a phoney "List Of Publically Accessible Mailing Lists", from which
she excludes mailing lists run by her "personal enemies")
Andrew Stephen Damick <asda...@unity.ncsu.edu>
(flaming bully)
David Davidian <d...@sdpa.org>
(also <d...@urartu.sdpa.org>, admin of historical revisionist and anti-Turkish
terrorist SDPA Center for Regional Studies, P.O.Box 2761, Cambridge, MA 02238,
+1 617 547 3759, (DD226))
Jim Davies <jr...@craycos.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Christopher Davis <c...@loiosh.kei.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
John Davis <jrd...@netcom.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Hans de Graaff <j.j.de...@twi.tudelft.nl>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Van de Paar <uz3...@vm1.ulg.ac.be>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Frans P. de Vries <f...@xymph.iaf.nl>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David Delaney <d...@panacea.phys.utk.edu>
(homosexual, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, maintains a blacklist of "homophobes",
insists on the homosexual spelling "DeLaney")
Karl Denninger <ka...@mcs.net>
(flaming bully, admin of MCSnet in Chicago, advocates censoring "pornography")
Richard E. Depew <r...@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us>
(pathological liar, also <r...@freenet.akron.oh.us>, forges cancels, advocates
"retromoderation")
Kim DeVaughn <k...@shell.portal.com>
(votes "NO")
Rahul Dhesi <dh...@rahul.net>
(admin of A2I Communications, 1211 Park Ave, ste 202, San Jose, CA 95126,
+1 408 946 9661, (RD69))
Ian Dickinson <cu...@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Matt Dillon <dil...@best.com>
(flaming bully)
Ron Dippold <rdip...@qualcomm.com>
(pathological liar, usenet volunteer votetaker)
Kent Paul Dolan <xant...@qualcomm.com>
(also <xant...@well.com>, <xant...@well.sf.ca.us>, rec.scifi.*,
comp.sys.amiga.*, misc.jobs.*, news.groups control freak, cheated in
group creation votes)
Keola Donaghy <ke...@maui.com>
(soc.culture.hawaii control freak)
Bob Donahue <don...@omphalos.skepsis.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Peter Donald <neur...@pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Lutz Donnerhacke <lu...@as-node.jena.thur.de>
(Nazi, voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Sean Donohue <sg...@leicester.ac.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Marc Donovan <don...@bnr.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Renaud Dreyer <rdr...@math.berkeley.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Harold A. Driscoll <har...@driscoll.chi.il.us>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David J. Duchscher <wo...@graywolf.tamu.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Larry Dunn <la...@falcon.kla.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jason Durbin <j...@poisson.com>
(homosexual, admin of Poisson Corporation, 8 Avocet Drive, #211, Redwood
Shores, CA 94065, also <slot...@poisson.com>, <j...@netcom.com>,
tel +1 415 637 0435, (JD503))
David Dyer-Bennet <d...@anubis.network.com>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jay D. Dyson <jdy...@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
(flaming bully)
Richard Easther <eas...@cfi.waseda.ac.jp>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Luis Echeverria <ratb...@deltanet.com>
(flaming bully, forges cancels)
Karl Eckler <ka...@hevanet.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Nathan K. Edel <nate...@dartmouth.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bruce Ediger <bed...@csn.net>
(pathological liar and racist)
Brian Edmonds <edm...@cs.ubc.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Stefan Eggers <seg...@semyam.dinoco.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael Ehli <me...@efn.org>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})

Charles Eicher <cei...@inav.net>
(pathological liar and racist)
Alexander Eichener <c...@vm.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Frank Ch. Eigler <fc...@db.toronto.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Victor Eijkhout <eijk...@jacobi.math.ucla.edu>
(flaming bully, +1 310 825 2173 / 9036)
Jamie Eimermann <j...@mcs.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Lloyd B. Eldred <gal...@universe.digex.net>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Topher Eliot <el...@dg-rtp.dg.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Arnoud "Galactus" Engelfriett <gala...@stack.urc.tue.nl>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Brian Edmonds <edm...@cs.ubc.ca>
(rmgrouping control freak)
Don Erway <der...@ndc.com>
(NDC Systems, 730 E. Cypress Ave, Monrovia, CA 91016, +1 818 358 1871,
fax: +1 818 303 5770)
Robert A. Essig <es...@snowhite.eeap.cwru.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Carey Evans <mis...@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tom Evans <ev...@reptiles.org>
(homosexual)
J.D. Falk <jdf...@cais.cais.com>
(also <jdf...@cais3.cais.com>, <jdf...@cybernothing.org>, voted YY on
n.a.n-a.{a,m}, moderator/FAQ keeper of at least 3 newsgroups, 3335 Hewitt
Ave, #103, Aspen Hill, Maryland 20906-5433, (703) 790-9312, (703) 448-4470,
fax: (703) 790-8805, sysadmin of Capital Area Internet Service, 6861 Elm St.
ste 3E, Mclean, VA 22101 (JF536))
J.J. Farrell <j...@dsbc.icl.co.uk>
(flaming bully)
Zoli Fekete <fek...@bcuxs2.bc.edu>
(pathological liar, also <fek...@chi3.bc.edu>, <mag...@world.std.com>, keeper
of a phoney Hungarian FAQ, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Gary A. Feldman <g...@cam.ov.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Steve Fenwick <s...@w0x0f.mti.sgi.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael Feuell <e...@rmc1.crocker.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Matthew H. Fields <fie...@eecs.umich.edu>
(homosexual music teacher, also <fie...@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, 1310 Packard St.,
# 2, Ann Arbor, MI 48104, +1 313 936 7935 (o), +1 313 769 4836 (h))
Nicholas J.F. Fitch <nfi...@ucsd.edu>
(homosexual)
Timothy Fogarty <fog...@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov>
(HIV-stricken homosexual, tries to silence "homophobes", also
<fog...@netcom.com>, NASA contractor via User Technology Associates, Inc,
tel: +1 818 393 9616, fax: +1 818 393-9815)
Thomas Foks <fo...@track.iatge.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Scott Forbes <for...@marconi.ih.att.com>
(pathological liar)
David E. Fox <df...@belvedere.sbay.org>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Abby Francmont-Guillory <abb...@tezcat.com>
(co-moderator of news.admin.net-abuse.announce, admin Tezcatlipoca Inc.,
1023 W. Jackson, Chicago, IL 60607, +1 312 850 0181)
Benjamin Franz <snow...@xmission.com>
(flaming bully, aka "snowhare", forged cancels)
Jon Freeman <fre...@indy.net>
(homosexual)
Markus Freericks <m...@cs.tu-berlin.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tim Frost <t...@eds.co.nz>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Baron K. Fujimoto <ba...@lava.net>
(soc.culture.hawaii control freak)
Joel Keith Furr <jf...@acpub.duke.edu>
(also <jf...@DANGER.COM>, <jf...@shellx.best.com>, (JF245),
racist T-shirt peddler, flunked out but continues to use Duke U. account,
co-moderator of news.admin.announce, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, 916 West
Trinity Ave, #10, Durham, NC 27701, +1 919 682 8396 h, 919 660 6500 o)
Dave Furstenau <d...@unlinfo.unl.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tom Galloway <t...@eecs.umich.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Susan Garvin <gar...@bast.cimds.ri.cmu.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bruce Giese <gi...@dev.cdx.mot.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Richard Gill <gandp!di...@uunet.uu.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ted Louis Glenn <tlg...@cs.arizona.edu>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
James B. Glidewell <j...@sdc.cs.boeing.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bill Godfrey <godf...@coventry.ac.uk>
(voted Y- on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Chris Goedde <goe...@jeeves.esam.nwu.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Mitchell Golden <gol...@harpo.harvard.edu>
(also <gol...@physics.harvard.edu>, kicked out of Harvard, still uses the
e-mail there, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, posts a phoney sysadmin FAQ)
Terra Goodnight <te...@primenet.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David S. Goppelt <gop...@scfe.chinalake.navy.mil>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David Grabiner <grab...@math.harvard.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Rich Graves <llu...@networking.stanford.edu>
(flaming bully)
Darrell Greenwood <darrell_...@mindlink.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Lewis Gregory <lgre...@cris.com>
(flaming bully)
Jonathan Grobe <gr...@ins.infonet.net>
(also <gr...@worf.infonet.net>, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, alt.config control
freak)
John M. Grohol <gro...@alpha.acast.nova.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Henry Groover <HGro...@Qualitas.com>
(soc.religion.vaishnava/hare krishna control freak)
John R. Grout <jg2...@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael Grubb <m...@ac.duke.edu>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Paul Guertin <guer...@iro.umontreal.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ronald F. Guilmette <r...@monkeys.com>
(pathological liar)
Gautam Guliani <gau...@escape.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David Guntner <dav...@netcom.com>
(pathological liar, rmgrouping control freak, Jackson State University,
POB 18530, Jackson, MS 39217)
Andrew Hackard <hac...@fc.net>
(pathological liar, also <hac...@freeside.fc.net>, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m},
+1 210 590 7585)
Jens A. Hage <jh...@io.com>
(pathological liar, also <jh...@macalstr.edu>)
Andrew Hagen <and...@earlham.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael Haight <mi...@sh-gpl.ti.com>
(pathological liar, also <mha...@texoma.com>, soc.culture.hawaii control
freak)
Judy Haldemann <jhal...@bud.peinet.pe.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Diana Hamilton <hami...@gl.umbc.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Catherine Hampton <ar...@best.com>
(hr...@gw.traveller.com)
Michael Handler <gre...@netaxs.com>
(homosexual, also <han...@netaxs.com>, works for Net Access, voted YY on
n.a.n-a.{a,m}, usenet volunteer votetaker)
Matthew Hannigan <ma...@aodc.gov.au>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
John Harkin <j...@nbn.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Joe Harrington <jo...@server.nlbbs.com>
(flaming bully)
Tom Harrington <t...@rmii.com>
(flaming bully)
Daniel Hartung <dhar...@mcs.com>
(pathological liar, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
James Harvey <har...@indyvax.iupui.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Peter Nathan Hass <st...@gate.net>
(homosexual, harasses "homophobes", advocates censorship)
Mike Hatz <mh...@raven.phs.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bill Hay <wi...@dumain.demon.co.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jim Hayter <hay...@ultryx.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bill Hazelrig <ha...@midway.uchicago.edu>
(pathological liar and racist)
Stephan Heilmayr <heil...@math.berkeley.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Vera Heinau <hei...@chemie.fu-berlin.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
John Henders <jhen...@stdismas.wimsey.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Kai Henningsen <k...@khms.westfalen.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Andrew Henry <a.h....@bath.ac.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
George William Herbert <gher...@crl.com>
(pathological liar and slanderer, also <gher...@retro.com>, admin of Retro
Aerospace, 2240 Blake St., ste 101, Berkeley, CA 94704, +1 510 849 4853,
(GWH5))
B.J. Herbison <b...@herbison.com>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Kenneth Herron <khe...@f10.facts.uky.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, usenet volunteer votetaker)
Joshua Hesse <rac...@cse.unl.edu>
(flaming bully)
Ray Hill <ray...@mailhost.onramp.net>
(homosexual, advocates censorship of "homophobes")
Dan Hirschi <vfoa...@huey.csun.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Dan Hoey <ho...@aic.nrl.navy.mil>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Norbert Hoffmann <nor...@twinski.toppoint.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Kevin Horton <kho...@tech.iupui.edu>
(homosexual)
David Howard <dho...@worldlinx.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Gary Huckabay <glhuc...@ucdavis.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tom Hughes <t...@compton.demon.co.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Marcus J. Huiseman <bb...@scn.org>
(homosexual, sends hate e-mail to suspected "homophobes")
Pete Humble <pj...@leicester.ac.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Eugene Hung <eyh...@garnet.berkeley.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Roxanne Hunter <rhu...@cwis.unomaha.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Gavin J. Hurlbut <gjhu...@beirdo.uplink.on.ca>
(flaming bully, also <gjhu...@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca>)
Lionel Hutz <c62...@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
Taneli Huuskonen <tan...@spud.pp.fi>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Johnie Ingram <joh...@umd.umich.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Mark E. Irwin <ir...@stat.mps.ohio-state.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jan Isley <j...@bagend.atl.ga.us>
(also <j...@mathcs.emory.edu>, usenet volunteer votetaker, forges contents-
based cancels in news.groups, forges cancels for group-creation-related
articles in other groups, tries to "ban" his enemies from the atl. hierarchy
by cancel-forging all their posts)
Ian Jackson <iw...@cus.cam.ac.uk>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Andy Jaeger <a...@arthur.pfalz.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Scott Mitchell Jennings <s...@oro.net>
(rmgrouping freak from alt.config, issues anonymous rmgroups,
sysadmin for OroNet, PO Box 1199, Penn Valley, CA 95946, tel: +1 916-477-6650,
fax: +1 916 274 8009, home: +1 916 265 8171 (SJ38))
Martim Jensen <martim...@dkb.dk>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jim Jewett <ji...@eecs.umich.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Roy Johnson <rjoh...@shellus.com>
(rec.food.veg control freak)
Harry Maurice Johnston <uda...@kcl.ac.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bertil K. Jonell <d9be...@dtek.chalmers.se>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Andy Jones <andyt...@aol.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Roger B. Jones, Jr. <rjo...@us.oracle.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Misti D. Jordan <gr...@ee.tulane.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Daniel A. Kabs <ka...@physik.uni-kl.de>
(Nazi, voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Rachel Meredith Kadel <rka...@husc.harvard.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jonathan I. Kamens <j...@cam.ov.com>
(pathological liar, soc.culture.israel control freak, moderator of *.answers,
voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael L. Kaufman <kau...@mcs.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
James G. Keegan Jr. <jke...@netcom.com>
(homosexual)
Matthew J. Keller <ma...@comm.mot.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Stan Kerr <stan...@uiuc.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Kimmo Ketolainen <kim...@utu.fi>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Yuval Kfir <yuval...@indigo.co.il>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Don Kiely <donk...@bravo.imagi.net>
(votes "NO")
Peter J. King <peter...@brasenose.oxford.ac.uk>
(homosexual)
Robert King <r.k...@qut.edu.au>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Matthew T. Kinney <km1...@csc.albany.edu>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Hans Kinwel <ha...@aie.nl>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tom Kirkman <tkir...@bardeen.physics.csbsju.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ron C. Kirkpatrick <ron.c.ki...@email.hub.tek.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Henning Klaskala <klas...@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Thomas Koenig <thomas...@ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Roger B.A. Klorese <rog...@QueerNet.ORG>
(homosexual, 2215-R Market Street #576, San Francisco, CA 94114,
+1 415 ALL-ARFF)
Ian Kluft <ikl...@thunder.sbay.org>
(former <ikl...@amdahl.com>, usenet volunteer votetaker, sysadmin for South
Bay Community Network, 1708 Goldentree Dr, San Jose, CA 95131,
tel: +1 408 729 3733, (IK2))
Taki Kogoma <qu...@unm.edu>
(flaming bully)
Markus Kolbeck <fp...@rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Dirk-Jan Koopman <d...@dirku.demon.co.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Stan Koper <sko...@netcom.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Kirt Kraeuter <kk...@dolphin.upenn.edu>
(pathological liar)
Karl A. Krueger <kkru...@osf1.gmu.edu>
(pathological liar, also <ka...@plato.simons-rock.edu>, voted YY on
n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Thomas G. Kucera <tku...@cc.umanitoba.ca>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Joseph Kwiatkowski <jkw...@sbu.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Stu Labovitz <s...@valinor.mythical.com>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Charles Lane <la...@duphy4.drexel.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Emery Lapinski <e...@panix.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bengt Larsson <ben...@maths.lth.se>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Andy Latto <an...@harlequin.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Warren J. Lavallee <war...@zion.consultix.com>
(also <war...@syra.net>, usenet volunteer votetaker, voted YY on
n.a.n-a.{a,m}, admin of Consultix Computer Services, 1417 Stolp Ave.,
Syracuse, NY 13207, +1 315 423 7900, fax +1 315 423 7828, (WJL))
David C. Lawrence <ta...@uunet.uu.net>
(voted -Y on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, news.groups top control freak)
Todd C. Lawson <tla...@email.univpubs.american.edu>
(votes "NO")
Lawrence Lee <la...@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael Lee <mich...@cs.wisc.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Colin Leech <ag...@freenet.carleton.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Evan Leibovitch <ev...@telly.telly.org>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Rob Leitman <rkle...@neumann.uwaterloo.ca>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David Lesher <wb8...@netcom.com>
(flaming bully)
John Leslie <jo...@jlc.net>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Joel B. Levin <le...@bbn.com>
(homosexual, pathological liar, also <levi...@mv.mv.com>, <j...@levin.mv.com>,
+1 617 873 3463, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Chris (C.R.) Lewis <cle...@bnr.ca>
(also <cle...@ferret.ocunix.on.ca>, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, most active
cancel-forger)
Reto Lichtensteiger <ra...@hri.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Derek Lichter <d...@clipper.ssb.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Kevin T. Likes <li...@cs.indiana.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tony Lima <tony...@toadhall.com>
(soc.culture.hawaii control freak)
Tom Limoncelli <t...@big.att.com>
(flaming bully, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Charles Lindsey <c...@clw.cs.man.ac.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
John Line <jm...@cus.cam.ac.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
James J. Lippard <lip...@primenet.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Brad Littlejohn <tyk...@cbacon2.unomaha.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Karen Lofstrom <lofs...@lava.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Patrick J. LoPresti <pa...@eiffel.lcs.mit.edu>
(also <pa...@lcs.mit.edu>, voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, usually votes "NO")
Tristan N. Louis <tri...@dorsai.org>
(flaming bully, 105 Saugatuck Ave, Apt 3, Westport, CT 06880, +1 203 222 8964,
(TL328))
Ade Lovett <a...@lovett.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Paul J. Lucas <p...@shellx.best.com>
(flaming bully, harasses posters of binaries)
Bob Luce <r...@gymnet.com>
(also <ne...@gymnet.com>, <ro...@gymnet.com>, etc, rmgrouping control freak,
sysadmin of GymNet Communications, 1064 N. Poplar Ave, Fresno, CA 93728-3350,
+1 209 224 4040, (RL134))
Gino Lucrezi <luc...@iinf01.ing.univaq.it>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Simon Lyall <si...@midland.co.nz>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tim Lynch <tly...@alumni.caltech.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bob MacDowell <bob...@NETCOM.COM>
(flaming bully, forges cancels)
Nick Maclaren <nm...@cus.cam.ac.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Dan MacNeil] <dan_m...@habitat.org>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Guy Macon <guym...@deltanet.com>
(flaming bully, tries to censor the quaker groups)
Michelle Mader <prm...@lmsmgr.lerc.nasa.gov>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Andreas Magdeburg <amag...@nyx10.cs.du.edu>
(soc.religion.vaishnava/hare krishna control freak)
Kevin Maguire <mag...@tina.jpl.nasa.gov>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Rich Mahn <ri...@lat.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Nikolaos Makrymanolakis <nma...@athena.compulink.forthnet.gr>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Louise C. Mallory <lmal...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Hartmut W. Malzahn <h...@hamster.sauerland.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Karl Mamer <kam...@io.org>
Michael Mancini <man...@starbase.neosoft.com>
(pathological liar)
Laurie D.T. Mann <lm...@telerama.lm.com>
(works at a bookstore, advises shoppers against buying C&S book, maintains
a "cluess marketing" site)
Chris Marble <chris_...@hmc.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael D. Maxfield <tw...@netcom.com>
(aka "The Right Reverend Master Tweek", also <tw...@tweekco.ness.com>,
<tw...@io.com>)
Gary L. Maxwell <m...@octel.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jay Maynard <jmay...@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu>
(pathological liar, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
John Mayo <john...@cscoe.ac.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ann Mazuk <ann_...@qmail2.aero.org>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tori McClaran <to...@columbia.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Josh McCormick <jmc...@galstar.com>
(sysadmin of Galaxy Star Systems, condones forgery)
Daniel J. McDonald <mcdo...@teleport.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
J. D. McDonald <mcdo...@aries.scs.uiuc.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Barett McGavock <hit...@primenet.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Denis McKeon <gal...@chtm.eece.unm.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
F. Andrew McMichael <amcm...@osf1.gmu.edu>
Nancy A.F. McNelly <nmcn...@acs.bu.edu>
(Boston University School of Medicine)
Todd Michel McComb <mcc...@best.com>
(soc.history.moderated, humanities.* control freak, self-apponted "group
mentor")
Thomas G. McWilliams <t...@netcom.com>
(votes "NO")
Nathan J. Mehl <nm...@bbnplanet.com>
(homosexual, also <nat...@bwh.harvard.edu>, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m},
Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc./BBN PlaNET, 10 Moulton Street, Cambridge,
MA 02138)
Joseph J. Mele <joe...@li.net>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jennifer Melusky <wha...@u.washington.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Harlan Messinger <gu...@clark.net>
(homosexual, advocates censorship of "homophobes")
Karl Meyer <ka...@rci.ripco.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Thomas 'Mike' Michlmayr <mi...@cosy.sbg.ac.at>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Samu Mielonen <e...@uiah.fi>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
John Milburn <j...@xpat.postech.ac.kr>
(also <j...@pal.postech.ac.kr>, forges cancels, Pohang Institute of Science and
Technology (POSTECH), P.O. Box 125, Pohang 790-330, Republic of Korea)
Richard H. Miller <ri...@bcm.tmc.edu>
(flaming bully, Baylor College of Medicine, also
<ri...@infinity.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu>, self-appointed "group mentor", voted YY on
n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Nelson Minar <nel...@santafe.edu>
(homosexual, sends denunciations to sysadmins)
Walter Misar <mi...@hp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Kevin Mitchell <kmit...@direct.ca>
(votes "NO")
Petrea Mitchell <pem...@is.nyu.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Dave Montuori <dmon...@rootbeer.uucp>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Mark Moraes <mark-...@deshaw.com>
(pathological liar, voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, moderator/censor of newusers.*)
Wes Morgan <mor...@ENGR.UKY.EDU>
(flaming bully)
Michael Moroney <mor...@world.std.com>
(flaming bully)
Greg Morrow <mor...@fnalv.fnal.gov>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Scott Hazen Mueller <sc...@tandem.com>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David Muir Sharnoff <mu...@idiom.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Todd Mullins <to...@nutria.nrlssc.navy.mil>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Roy Murphy <7637...@compuserve.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bill Muskett <mus...@netcom.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Chuck Narad <na...@nudibranch.asd.sgi.com>
(rec.food.veg control freak)
Helge Nareid <nar...@optsun.riken.go.jp>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Chris Nasipak <cro...@cyber1.servtech.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Rob J. Nauta <r...@redwood.nl>
(pathological liar)
Richard D. Neal <ne...@bbms.iac.honeywell.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Henry Neeman <hne...@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
(voted -Y on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ken Nelson <nel...@ix.netcom.com>
(votes "NO")
Ron Neuman <rne...@cybercom.net>
(formerly <rne...@media.mit.edu>, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, advocates
blacklisting "unacceptable" posters to whom no ISP should give access)
Lazlo Nibble <la...@rt66.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Art Nicolaysen <ni...@netcom.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Nils Nieuwejaar <ni...@sparrowhawk.dartmouth.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Joar Nilsson <jo...@ludd.luth.se>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jon Noring <nor...@netcom.com>
(pathological liar and net.censor, also <omni...@netcom.com>, OmniMedia,
9671 S. 1600 West St., South Jordan, UT 84095, +1 801 253 4037)
Mike Northam <m...@ssd.intel.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael J. Norton <m...@fly.hiwaay.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David B. O'Donnell <PMDAt...@aol.com>
(homosexual, also <atr...@aol.net>, America Online Postmaster,
tel: +1 703 556 3725, fax: +1 703 883 1514)
Frank O'Donnell <fr...@jplpio.jpl.nasa.gov>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Douglas Oard <oa...@glue.umd.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jeffrey M. Odom <ze...@jhu.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ken Ogawa <k...@maui.net>
(soc.culture.hawaii control freak)
Paul Oh <pa...@tso4a.can.cdc.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Hong Ooi <ho...@magna.com.au>
(pathological liar)
Ben Ostrowsky <syl...@grove.ufl.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Chris Owen <tr9...@sable.ox.ac.uk>
(homosexual, also <c...@nvg.unit.no>)
M. Otto <ot...@vaxb.acs.unt.edu>
(voted -Y on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Stephen O. Pace <pa...@shell.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Richard Palmer <richard...@palmer.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Terri Palmer <tp...@andrew.cmu.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tom Parker <t...@wierius.stat.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Douglas Parvin <do...@texel.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jani Patokallio <jpat...@alpha.hut.fi>
(usenet volunteer votetaker)
Neil Pawson <neil....@smallworld.co.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Christopher Payne <chr...@atc.boeing.com>
(soc.culture.hawaii control freak)
David W. Payne <dwp...@rbdc.rbdc.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Todd Peacock <peaco...@cobra.uni.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Larry Pearson <larry....@wem.org>
(flaming bully)
Emma Pease <em...@kanpai.stanford.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Stephen Peters <spe...@us.oracle.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Mark Phaedrus <phae...@halcyon.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Paul S. Phillips <pa...@nic.cerf.net>
(also <pa...@cerf.net>, co-moderator of news.admin.announce, voted YY on
n.a.n-a.{a,m}, admin of the joke domain "USENET.COM Usenet Cabal (USENET-DOM)"
4225 Porte de Palmas, ste 187, San Diego, CA 92122, +1 619 220 0850, (PP98))
Michael D. Phoenix <mic...@xenon.stanford.edu>
(woman-hating homosexual, abuses alimni account at Stanford; +1 408 362 4616;
works for Filoli Information Systems, Inc, Tracy Reynolds, Director of Human
Resources, tel: +1 415 856 3100, ext 285, fax: +1 415 855 1723)
Anthony G. Picciano <picc...@crl.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
John R. Pierce <pie...@diamondmm.com>
(pathological liar, admin of Diamond Multimedia Systems, Inc, 1130 East Arques
Ave, Sunnyvale, CA 94086, +1 408 736 2000, (JRP))
Tim Pierce <twpi...@midway.uchicago.edu>
(homosexual, also <twpi...@quads.uchicago.edu>, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
William Pietri <wil...@smile.apdg.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jase Pittman-Wells <ja...@crl.com>
(homosexual, advocates censorship of "homophobes")
Charles Platt <c...@panix.com>
(pathological liar, may be a journalist)
Jeffrey A. Pleimling <je...@is.ge.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jani Poijdrvi <gno...@brahman.nullnet.fi>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
A. Polzer <pol...@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de>
(Nazi, voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Paul Pomes <p-p...@uiuc.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Stephen P. Potter <s...@vx.com>
(flaming bully, also <spo...@netcom.com>, <s...@ddi.digital.net>, voted YY on
n.a.n-a.{a,m}, adm of Varimetrix Corp., 2350 Commerce Park Dr. # 4, Palm Bay,
FL 32905, (407) 676-3222)
Brennan T. Price <gt0...@prism.gatech.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Glen Pringle <pri...@cs.monash.edu.au>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Robin Prior <ro...@rosp.demon.co.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Timothy R. Prodin <tpr...@cadcam.pms.ford.com>
(flaming bully, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Joe Provo <jpr...@ultranet.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Kathy Purcell <purc...@mo.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Raphael Quinet <raphael...@aachen.eed.ericsson.se>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael Quinlan <mi...@primenet.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tony Quirke <quir...@ix.wcc.govt.nz>
(homosexual, posts a phoney soc.culture.new-zealand FAQ)
Roy Radow <ra...@netcom.com>
(homosexual, former <r...@panix.com>, recruiter for the North American Man-Boy
Love association (NAMBLA))
Dave Ratcliffe <da...@frackit.com>
(pathological liar)
Michael Rathbun <m...@iadfw.net>
(forges cancels)
Waldi Ravens <wa...@moacs.indiv.nl.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Phil Reed <p...@ic.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Gareth Rees <garet...@cl.cam.ac.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Edward Reid <e...@titipu.resun.com>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ivan D. Reid <re...@psi.ch>
(pathological liar)
John Bertram Reinitz <rei...@kruppel.molbio.mssm.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Daniel R. Reitman <drei...@oregon.uoregon.edu>
(pathological liar, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David F. Reynolds <da...@teleport.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Dylan Rhodes <drh...@hercules.com>
(flaming bully, also <ro...@hercules.com>, admin for Hercules Computer
Technology, 3839 Spinnaker Court, Fremont, CA 94538, +1 510 623 6052, (DR96))
Thomas M. Richardson <tric...@ionet.net>
(homosexual, pathological liar, white supremacist)
Mike Richey <smr...@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Paul Rickter <ric...@world.std.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Walter Roberson <robe...@hamer.ibd.nrc.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ollivier Robert <rob...@hsc.fr.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Luis A. Rodriguez <lro...@free.org>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Helen Trillian Rose <hr...@rocza.kei.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Larry Rosenstein <l...@taligent.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Dan Rothschild <d...@cow.net>
(rmgrouping control freak)
Chris Rouch <ch...@wg.estec.esa.nl>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Lantz Rowland <la...@halcyon.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Herman Rubin <hru...@stat.purdue.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
William Rucklidge <ruck...@parc.xerox.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
J. Rufinus <ruf...@dxcern.cern.ch>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Glen Patrick Ryan <ry...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
(votes "NO")
Hala'sz Sa'ndor <hal...@caip.rutgers.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Quabidur R. Safi <quabid...@taligent.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Riku Saikkonen <r...@spider.compart.fi>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Mark Gregory Salyzyn <ma...@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Wayne Sanders-Unrein <sa...@ug.eds.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Nick Sandru <n...@sandes.dk>
(homosexual, forges cancels)
Michael Sattler <msat...@jungle.com>
(homosexual, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael S. Scheidell <sche...@fdma.com>
(homosexual, also <sche...@xdev.fdma.com>, adm Florida Datamation, Inc.,
6405 Congress Ave #140, Boca Raton, FL 33487, (407) 241-2966, forges
cancels)
Wolfgang Schelongowski <w...@xivic.ruhr.de>
(flaming bully and a Nazi)
Roderick Schertler <rode...@ibcinc.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Barry Schlesinger <bschle...@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Wolfram Schlickenrieder <schl...@math.tu-berlin.de>
(Nazi, voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Mark Schmalz <ms...@cis.ufl.edu>
(soc.culture.hawaii control freak)
Jurgen Schmidt <sha...@faceplant.gvg.tek.com>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Matthew G. Schnierle <py...@oak.grove.iup.edu>
(pathological liar, also <py...@avocet.ma.iup.edu>, <tuna.co.iup.edu>, voted
YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Martin Schroeder <l1...@zfn.uni-bremen.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Christina Schulman <schu...@pitt.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Edmund Schweppe <schw...@max.tiac.net>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
D. A. Scocca <sco...@gibbs.oit.unc.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bart Sears <se...@hplsbs.hpl.hp.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ellen Keyne Seebacher <el...@midway.uchicago.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Gaylord E. Seger <seg...@ss2.sews.wpafb.af.mil>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael Serfas <u58...@uicvm.uic.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jonathan S. Sergent <jser...@expert.cc.purdue.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Doug Sewell <do...@cc.ysu.edu>
(homosexual)
David Sewell <ds...@packrat.aml.arizona.edu>
(pathological liar and flamer, Department of Geosciences, U Arizona,
+1 602 881 0857, +1 602 326 7625, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Richard J. Sexton <ric...@gold.interlog.com>
(also <ric...@vrx.net>, voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, advocates plug pulling and
other online forms of censorship, but flames David Lawrence and the Da Silvas)
Carlo Sgro <cs...@electro.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
David Shaw <dms...@hertz.njit.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Joe Shaw <joe...@csgrad.cs.vt.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Rod Shelton <ros...@faerun.mi.org>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Doug Sheppard <siri...@pentagon.io.com>
(voted -Y on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael Shields <shi...@tembel.org>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Chris Siebenmann <c...@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tina Sikorski <ti...@tezcat.com>
(aka Discord, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Daniel Silevitch <dms...@mit.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Dave Sill <d...@sws5.ctd.ornl.gov>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Leo G. Simonetta <arc...@langate.gsu.edu>
(flaming bully, +1 404 651 3523)
Timothy M. Skirvin <tski...@arh0062.urh.uiuc.edu>
(also <tski...@uni.uiuc.edu>, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, computer consultant
in Electrical and Computer Engineering, falsely impersonates sysadmin,
+1 217 332 3315)
Marc Slemko <ma...@alive.ampr.ab.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Warren Smethurst <War...@cris.com>
(homosexual, advocates censorship of "homophobes")
Gene Ward Smith <gsm...@lab1.utoledo.edu>
(homosexual, also <gws...@cats.ucsc.edu>)
Josh Smith <iri...@infersys.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Pat Smith <psm...@aol.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Randy Smith <rsm...@maxwell.ee.washington.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Robert P. Smith <robs...@u.washington.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Stephanie Smith <st...@wimsey.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Andrew Snodgrass <a...@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Daniel "Ford" Sohl <fort...@brown.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Erland Sommarskog <som...@algonet.se>
(pathological liar, former <som...@enea.se>, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m},
standards forums control freak)
Scott Southwick <sco...@shooter.bluemarble.net>
(homosexual, former <sco...@ancho.ucs.indiana.edu>, posts a phoney net-abuse
FAQ, which is really just a list of lies and personal attacks on "homophobes",
voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Claire Speed <spe...@cs.man.ac.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
A. Spehr <als...@woodward-52.rh.uchicago.edu>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Andrew Spicer <spi...@cobra.esxf.uwindsor.ca>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Christopher Lodge Stamper <cl...@columbia.edu>
(votes "NO")
John A. Stanley <jsta...@gate.net>
(homosexual, advocates censorship of "homophobes")
C. Stanton <c...@va.pubnix.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
William K. Stewart-Cole <scco...@inlink.com>
(also <b...@oui.com> Odyssey Ultraware Inc., POB 31772, St. Louis, MO 63131,
also <bi...@scconsult.com>, admin of Stewart-Cole Consulting, 4931 Wise Ave.,
St. Louis, MO 63110, +1 314 531 8515, "loving father" of Megan,
voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m}, (WS118))
J. Stick <st...@shepherd.escalade.com>
(votes "NO")
Juergen Stiekel <jue...@gator.teuto.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Johannes Stille <joha...@titan.westfalen.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Thomas Stockheim <to...@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael A. Stoodt <sto...@cis.umassd.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Uwe Storbeck <u...@knus.tricbbs.fn.sub.org>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
James Stricherz <stri...@coaps.fsu.edu>
(pathological liar, posts as "I R A Aggie", work: 644 1159, home: 562 6187)
William H. Sudderth <whsu...@hamlet.uncg.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Christopher Suley <csu...@netmanage.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Peter Sullivan <pe...@manorcon.demon.co.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Pab Sungenis <p...@cnx.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Paul Sutcliffe Jr. <sip...@sip.unisys.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Rod Swift <c...@iinet.com.au>
(homosexual)
Ruth M. Sylte <rms...@uci.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Nicholas Sylvain <syl...@netcom.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Mike Taksar <m...@redbrick.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael Tandy <m...@mail.utexas.edu>
(soc.religion.vaishnava/hare krishna control freak)
Saul Tannenbaum <stan...@emerald.tufts.edu>
(mgr, Tufts U acad systems, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Agris Taurins <tau...@penguin.inetnebr.com>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tim Themann <ti...@umwelt.ecolink.org>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Pete 'Happy' Thomas <ha...@worldweb.net>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Neil Thompson <ne...@spl.co.za>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ron Tidd <rt...@janeway.tcsnet.com>
(flaming bully)
Felix E. Tilley Jr. <fti...@indirect.com>
(pathological liar, racist, forges cancels)
Bruce Tindall <sas...@unx.sas.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Richard Todd <rmt...@skywalker.ecn.uoknor.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
SJ Towse <sjt...@ix.netcom.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Gardner S. Trask III <tr...@world.std.com>
(flaming bully)
Nguyen Tri Duc <rh2...@swt.edu>
(homosexual)
Tim Triche, Jr. <tj...@cornell.edu>
(sci.med.nutrition control freak)
Chris Trimble <tri...@panix.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
George Tringali <trin...@refine.enet.dec.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Andrew Tristan <atri...@galaxy.ucr.edu>
(pathological liar, also <and...@babylon.riverside.ca.us>)
Lynda L. True <shr...@earthlink.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Stephen J. Turnbull <turn...@shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Gugge Tvrnquist <gu...@netg.se>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Trevor Tymchuk <jon...@io.org>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Werner Uhrig <wer...@ccwf.cs.utexas.edu>
(pathological liar, also <wer...@sleepy.cc.utexas.edu >, voted YY on
n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Pierre Uszynski <pie...@shell.portal.com>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Francis Uy <fu...@gl.umbc.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ralph Valentino <ra...@worcester.com>
(forges cancels, sysadmin for Worcester Wares, 217 Park Ave, ste 227,
Worcester, MA 01609, +1 508 793 9568, (RV64))
Dave Van Domelen <dva...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Michael Van Ert <mva...@haven.uniserve.com>
(soc.culture.hawaii control freak)
John Van Essen <vane...@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Scott Van Note <sco...@crl.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Albert Vanderburg <pan...@lava.net>
(aka "albert the panther", soc.culture.hawaii control freak)
David Veal <ve...@gateway.ce.utk.edu>
(voted -Y on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Craig Verver <cve...@u.washington.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Houri Vartanian <hwar...@flute.aix.calpoly.edu>
(historical revisionist and anti-Turkish terrorist)
P. J. Volk <pjv...@ix.netcom.com>
Peter Vorobieff <pv...@lehigh.edu>
(also <pv...@navier.me.lehigh.edu>, posts one of the 2 soc.culture.russian FAQs
- the phoney one, forges obscenities, then complains about his own forgeries)
Michael Wagener <wag...@ls10.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>
(Nazi, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Kiran Wagle <gr...@netcom.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Andy Walton <att...@mindspring.com>
(pathological liar)
Janet Walz <jw...@rsg1.er.usgs.gov>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
William Robert Ward <her...@cats.ucsc.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Matthew S. Warren <op...@fine-print.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Leslie G. Warstler <dei...@io.org>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Marcio Watanabe <mar...@primenet.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Pirawat Watanapongse <p...@cacs.usl.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ralph Waters <rwa...@jabba.ess.harris.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ben Watson <be...@nbnet.nb.ca>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Rhys Weatherley <rh...@fit.qut.edu.au>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
J.C. Webber III <j...@mti.mti.sgi.com>
(voted YN on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Christoph Weber-Fahr <we...@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
(Nazi, voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Dave Weil <da...@tso4a.can.cdc.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Doug Weller <dwe...@ramtops.demon.co.uk>
(flaming bully)
Peter Wemm <pe...@haywire.dialix.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Sharon Westfall <wes...@aloha.net>
(soc.culture.hawaii control freak)
Chris Wharton <c...@dme.nt.gov.au>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Bill Whedon <whe...@netcom.com>
(sci.med.nutrition control freak)
Patricia R. White <pwh...@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Richard P. White <rpw...@best.com>
(admin of best.com, provides internet connection to several net.cops and
forgers, tel +1 415 964 2378, fax: +1 415 940 6464, (RPW))
Risto Widenius <wide...@cc.helsinki.fi>
(votes "NO")
Michiel Wijers <csa...@urc.tue.nl>
(votes "NO")
Bob Wilkins <rwil...@ccnet.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Alan R. Williams <ala...@cs.man.ac.uk>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tomas Willis <to...@cae.wisc.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Ed Wilson <ewi...@phoenix.cs.uga.edu>
(pathological liar, also <Katm...@uga.cc.uga.edu>, <Katm...@cris.com>)
Mark O. Wilson <mark.o...@atlantaga.ncr.com>
(pathological liar)
Michael J. Wise <mjw...@unixg.ubc.ca>
(soc.culture.hawaii control freak)
Rob Woiccak <rew...@gti.net>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Paul S. Wolf <aa...@cleveland.freenet.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Jeff Wolfe <wo...@ems.psu.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Conrad "Lynx" Wong <ly...@netcom.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Adrian Wontroba <a...@stade.co.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tina M. Wood <al...@yfn.ysu.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
John Woods <j...@proteon.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Arthur Wouk <wo...@alumni.cs.colorado.edu>
(pathological liar, also <aw...@nyx10.cs.du.edu>)
Ben Yalow <yb...@panix.com>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
John Yeates <j.ye...@sussex.ac.uk>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Danny Yee <da...@staff.cs.su.oz.au>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Tzimon Yliaster <tzi...@crl.com>
(pathological liar, BBZ Broadcasting)
Chris Yoder <ch...@eris.hsc.colorado.edu>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Gregory S. Youngblood <ze...@skypoint.com>
(voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
Nathan Yuen <ny...@lava.net>
(also <ny...@aloha.net>, soc.culture.hawaii control freak)
Joris Zwart <jo...@stack.urc.tue.nl>
(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
--
----
Vladimir Fomin, vfo...@panix.com. <http://users.aol.com/antisas/oasash.html>

Vladimir Fomin

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>In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:

>> Charles Eicher <cei...@inav.net>
>> (pathological liar and racist)

>I am proud to be 'blacklisted' by such a kook as Fomin. All I ever did was


>publicly announce I killfiled him.

Yet you follow up to my articles. Therefore you lied when you publicly
announced that you killfiled me. Therefore you confirm that you are
a pathological liar. Thank you.

Catherine Hampton

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Vladimir Fomin (vfo...@panix.com) wrote:

>Catherine Hampton <ar...@best.com>
> (hr...@gw.traveller.com)

Hmmmm.... Since, from the syntax of the rest of this post, the
second line gives the reason why someone is considered a member
of this list, and since my second line cites my work as a human
rights activist and proprietor of the Human Rights Web, I am
honored to be a part of your list, although I don't see what this
has to do with news.admin.net-abuse.misc.

You, on the other hand, might want to consider what such a list,
and the reasons given, shows about your character. I've stayed out
of the so-called "Russian dispute" and have actually killfiled most
of that discussion, so I don't know what I've done to earn your
enmity. But at this point I'm pretty sure it was the right thing
to do.

--
Catherine Hampton
==================================================
ar...@best.com hr...@gw.traveller.com
--------------------------------------------------
Human Rights Web: http://www.traveller.com/~hrweb/
Home Page: http://www.best.com/~ariel/
==================================================

Steve Adams

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vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:


>Steve Adams <ad...@spss.com>

Oooo! My name in lights. What, pray tell, did I do to get on your list???
You didn't post any charges! I ought to at least get to know why I made
the list!

-Steve
----
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Dave Ratcliffe

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On Mon, 15 Jan 1996 12:13:18 -0600, cei...@inav.net (Charles Eicher)
wrote:
-In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin)
-wrote:

-> Charles Eicher <cei...@inav.net>
-> (pathological liar and racist)

-I am proud to be 'blacklisted' by such a kook as Fomin. All I ever
-did was publicly announce I killfiled him. And the charges of racism
-are typical BS, since I've consistently spoken out AGAINST racism on
-the internet.

I just wanna know if I'm a Net Nazi or a Sandlot Bully..

->Dave Ratcliffe <da...@frackit.com>
-> (pathological liar)

That's a damn lie! :)

Dave Ratcliffe da...@frackit.com
Cabal #Za35CFK Level 2
Email to this account may be posted to the net


Jim Griffith

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Jan 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/15/96
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vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) writes:

[List of various libels and slanders deleted]

Damn, I didn't make the list. Had I known, I would have voted on n.a.n-a.
I at least expected to be added to the list with the explanation "refuses
to take Vladimir Fomin seriously". Although, I rather suspect that that's
the actual "offense" that caused *everyone* to appear in the list...

Jim

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I R A Aggie

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In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:

+ James Stricherz <stri...@coaps.fsu.edu>
+ (pathological liar, posts as "I R A Aggie", work: 644 1159, home: 562 6187)

Thanks, Fomin, tho I don't think I deserve to be listed with some of
the dignitaries you place in the list.

Oh, and since you're talking Net.Nazis and Sandlot Bullies, I have
an addition:

Vladimir Fomin <vfo...@panix.com>
(Anonymous Coward and maker of blacklists)

If you would like, please provide evidence that I am a pathological
liar.

As for me calling you an anonymous coward, here's some proof:

finger vfo...@panix.com 5:29pm
[panix.com]
Login Name: vfomin
This user does not wish to provide finger information.

Coward. Blacklister. McCarthyite. Hypocrite.

James - a few other words come to mind, but I'll refrain...

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henry

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In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, Vladimir Fomin <vfo...@panix.com> wrote:

>Anonymous "henry" <anon...@nyx.cs.du.edu>
> (homosexual)

who is this foamin'-at-the-mouth guy, anyway?

is he a famous kook, or just some dimwitted little _parvenu_?

in either case, he sure put me into good company--practically
anyone worth anything at all is on that list, from seth breidbart
to bob woodhead (co-author of 'wizardry').

in any case, i'm not 'anonymous,' which means 'without a name.'
i'm 'pseudonymous.' look it up, moron.

my name is rob clark. blow me.

h
- --
"I am a moron. I admit it, without reservation or
qualification." -- Sensei (sen...@anglianet.co.uk)

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Michael D. Phoenix

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Jan 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/15/96
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In article <4dec4d$a...@panix.com>, Vladimir Fomin <vfo...@panix.com> wrote:
>In <ceicher-1501...@ceicher.inav.net> cei...@inav.net
>(Charles Eicher) writes:
>
>>In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:
>
>>> Charles Eicher <cei...@inav.net>
>>> (pathological liar and racist)
>
>>I am proud to be 'blacklisted' by such a kook as Fomin. All I ever did was

>>publicly announce I killfiled him.

Heh. I'm afraid I've done a bit more than that--I actually dared to
talk back to him. I suppose that's why I'm a "woman-hating
homosexual", not just a "pathological liar".

And, of course, publicly announce that I'd killfiled him (which I had).

I'm also proud to be blacklisted by him; not proud enough, however, to
ignore the fact that I've been blatantly libeled, and in a way which
is intended to cause me deliberate harm at my job. I will be
contacting my lawyer about pursuing a libel suit against Mr. Fomin;
anyone interested in joining a possible class-action libel suit, send
me email please.

This is not an empty threat, Mr. Fomin, and posting a retraction or
apology will not help you at this point. I have been libeled, and I
intend to seek legal satisfaction.

A copy of this post has been emailed to Mr. Fomin, to ensure that he
sees it.

>Yet you follow up to my articles. Therefore you lied when you publicly
>announced that you killfiled me. Therefore you confirm that you are
>a pathological liar. Thank you.

Actually, no. He probably did what I did; killfiled you for being an
abusive, small-minded, libelous jerk, and then unkillfiled you to
look at this article when someone told him he'd been libeled.

By the way, I recommend that next time you choose something slightly
more believable than "woman-hating homosexual"--I have plenty of
witnesses to both my lack of misogyny and my primarily hetersexual
orientation.

As to "abuse" of my alumni account at Stanford, I assure you that if I
had in fact abused it, it would be gone now. Stanford doesn't
tolerate net abuse by its users, even alumni. The fact, therefore,
that I am posting this from that account should more than suffice to
prove your statement a lie (not that many of us would require proof
anymore; rather, we'd need to see proof to the contrary, I think).

Anyone who would like to discuss these allegations with me, please
feel free to call me at home. Mr. Fomin has kindly posted my number,
but I'll repeat it here so nobody'll have to go digging for it:
(408) 362-4616. Again, I'm normally home in the mornings from
8:30-9:30, and in the evenings from about 8:00 on. But feel free to
call anytime, and leave your number on my answering machine, and I'll
be sure to call you back.

Sincerely,

Michael Phoenix
Senior Member of Technical Staff
Filoli Information Systems (which really isn't interested in
complaints about my sexual orientation, by the way).


Michael D. Phoenix

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This post was also emailed to postm...@panix.com and
ab...@panix.com, and to postm...@cs.stanford.edu.


Dear panix.com Postmaster:

Your user recently posted, as part of a "Blacklist of Net.Nazis and
Sandlot Bullies", the following libelous information:

In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, Vladimir Fomin <vfo...@panix.com> wrote:
>Michael D. Phoenix <mic...@xenon.stanford.edu>
> (woman-hating homosexual, abuses alimni account at Stanford; +1 408 362 4616;
> works for Filoli Information Systems, Inc, Tracy Reynolds, Director of Human
> Resources, tel: +1 415 856 3100, ext 285, fax: +1 415 855 1723)

The requirements for information to be considered libel are that:
1) the information must be false.
2) the information must be published.
3) there must be "intent to defame".

This information meets all of the above criteria:
1) I am neither misogynistic nor homosexual, and can establish both by
appropriate character references on request. Nor have I ever abused
my alumni account at Stanford, as can be confirmed by contacting the
appropriate administrative bodies at Stanford.

2) The information was published on Usenet; there is legal precedent
for considering publication on Usenet to be publication for the
purposes of libel.

3) The sole purpose of a blacklist containing false information is the
defamation of the individuals on the list; furthermore, intent not
only to defame but to cause damage can easily be established by noting
the inclusion of my Human Resources Director in the published
information.


I will be pursuing legal action against your customer, "Vladimir
Fomin" (vfo...@panix.com). I respectfully request that you pursue
internal administrative sanctions against this user as well; lack of
action on your part, now that you have been informed of the illegality
of his actions, may cause you to become a party to this illegality.

Please keep me informed of any actions you take against this user.

Nathan J. Mehl

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Wow.

A more thorough attempt at self-immolation I have never seen on Usenet.

Since Vlad was kind enough to post this to alt.usenet.kooks, let me be
the first to exclaim that this is certainly material for a Golden
Killfile Award nomination.

(What's the record for least amount of time between first post to
Usenet and receiving a GKA? I think Vlad has been here only a few
months, so we may be seeing history in the making.)

Please note follow-ups.

--
Nathan J. Mehl -- BBN Planet System Operations -- nat...@bbnplanet.com


Modemac

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[Please note the trimmed newsgroups line and redirected followups.]

Vladimir Fomin (vfo...@panix.com) wrote:
: Anonymous "Rev. Modemac" <mod...@netcom.com>
: (homosexual)

<trying to keep a straight face here...this is hilarious!>

How I made the Top 10 list of this goon is beyond me, but I consider it
an honor. And you forgot to mention that I voted YY for the
news.admin.net-abuse.* groups, too.

And for the record, I am not "anonymous." Any number of people know my
name, as the Church of Scientology found out when they tried to "out" me
along with TarlaStar. Maybe you should write to the Sons of Elron and
ask for tips on how to harass people?
--
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N.A.F. McNelly

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[followups reset]

In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:

:Anonymous <edmc...@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>


: ("Follower of a clawed albino")

(...)
:Joris Zwart <jo...@stack.urc.tue.nl>


:(voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})

(...)
:Vladimir Fomin, vfo...@panix.com. <http://users.aol.com/antisas/oasash.html>

It's good to see that you included one name truly worthy of being
on this list. But I think your grasp of the alphabet is a bit off.

Shouldn't "Fomin" be in with the other names beginning with F instead
of down with the Zs?

....................................................................
Nancy McNelly http://www.he.net/~nmcnelly
the online Mayan hieroglyphic syllabary

I R A Aggie

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Jan 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/15/96
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In article <jrdavisD...@netcom.com>, jrd...@netcom.com (John Davis)
wrote:

+ Vladimir Fomin (vfo...@panix.com) wrote:

+ : John Davis <jrd...@netcom.com>
+ : (voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})

+ I must say that I am thoroughly, pleased, gratified and honored to appear
+ on a list with some of the greatest heros and leading lights of usenet.

I hear you. I'm just a small fish in a small pond, but there I am in
his list o' lists. But I got listed as being a pathological liar.
That's not true! or am I lying to myself?

+ It is especially nice that these former KGB agents recognize me as an
+ enemy. Just let me say to you Vlad-the-ass, you are a lying sheep stealing
+ pervert.

Just as long as he keeps his hands off my sheep! [Aggie joke alert]

+ Or as my old Pappy would have said. "You're a lying coyote and your feet
+ don't track."

Don't insult coyote's like that...

James

Russ Allbery

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Jan 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/15/96
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[ posted and mailed ]

In news.admin.net-abuse.misc, Vladimir Fomin <vfo...@panix.com> writes:

> Russ Allbery <r...@xenon.stanford.edu>
> (also <r...@cs.stanford.edu>, <ea...@cyclone.stanford.edu>,
> <ea...@eyrie.org>, "CS Concurrency Group Research Assistant,
> Distributed Computing Operations", voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m},
> impersonates a sysadmin, apparently homosexual)

Let me help...you missed at least three e-mail addresses and two
companies.

As honored as I am to be included in such august company, I expect either
proof that I have "impersonate[d] a sysadmin" or a retraction. I've
already talked to Mickey about joining him in investigating a class action
lawsuit for libel.

I see you didn't post my address or phone number. That was probably a
good move on your part; if you had, I would have filed a police report.

--
Russ Allbery (r...@cs.stanford.edu) http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~rra/

Vladimir Fomin

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>In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:

>> Charles Eicher <cei...@inav.net>
>> (pathological liar and racist)

>I am proud to be 'blacklisted' by such a kook as Fomin. All I ever did was


>publicly announce I killfiled him.

Yet you follow up to my articles. Therefore you lied when you publicly


announced that you killfiled me. Therefore you confirm that you are
a pathological liar. Thank you.

John Davis

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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Vladimir Fomin (vfo...@panix.com) wrote:

: John Davis <jrd...@netcom.com>


: (voted NY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})

I must say that I am thoroughly, pleased, gratified and honored to appear


on a list with some of the greatest heros and leading lights of usenet.

It is especially nice that these former KGB agents recognize me as an


enemy. Just let me say to you Vlad-the-ass, you are a lying sheep stealing

pervert.

Or as my old Pappy would have said. "You're a lying coyote and your feet

don't track."

ESAD

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Paul Phillips

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It's just too trendy to follow up to this, but...

In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com> vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) writes:
>Paul S. Phillips <pa...@nic.cerf.net>
> (also <pa...@cerf.net>, co-moderator of news.admin.announce, voted YY on
> n.a.n-a.{a,m}, admin of the joke domain "USENET.COM Usenet Cabal (USENET-DOM)"
> 4225 Porte de Palmas, ste 187, San Diego, CA 92122, +1 619 220 0850, (PP98))

Joke domain?!?!?! Oh, we'll just see what a joke it is.

{usenet} vi /etc/killfile.global
[Clickety-click]
{usenet} newkillfile
/etc/killfile.global: 80 entries, longest 32 bytes, 1623 bytes total

Bye-bye.

-PSP

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Arun Malik

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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This is a *fascinating* list. You've obviously put a great deal of
effort into it. But as with any list, you need to add a section on
methodology.

Statement of Purpose - Two to three sentence explaination of what you
hope to accomplish by compiling this list.

1. Definitions
Define all of the terms used to describe people on the list. Ex:
i) Net Nazi
ii) Pathological liar
What distinguishes a pathological liar from the everyday
liar?

2. Selection criteria

Why were these people selected for the list? Is just _one_ vote or
article enough to qualify for this list?

3. Feedback mechanisms for corrections.

As with any list, errors may inadvertently occur. For example, I
first came across Charles Platt's work in 1981 when he was editing a
*very* controversial science fiction zine - and I mean ***very***
controversial. He is definitely a journalist - no "may be" about it.

vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:
>Charles Platt <c...@panix.com>
> (pathological liar, may be a journalist)

4. Nomination criteria

Others may see this list and wish to inform you of "Net Nazi"s you may
have inadvertently excluded from your list. By providing a clear
consistent set of definitions and criteria, as well as a process for
nominating candidates, you will allow others to assist you in keeping
this list up to date. There may also be a rush of people who wish to
nominate themselves. Be sure to state whether that is permitted.

5. Do you have your own newsgroup yet? If not, you may wish to
cross- post this (and any subsequent) articles to
alt.flame.net-cops . You undoubtably post articles to many
different news groups on many different topics. By always including
alt.flame.net-cops in the newsgroup line, someone who wishes to
"follow" your "campaign" against "Net Nazis" can subscribe to a single
news group rather than have to search through several for your latest
article.

7. Finally, you are going to need a good attorney. You may wish to
register for a First Virtual account and set up a legal defense fund.
Actual damages against you should be minor - libel cases often end up
with $1 settlements. However, legal costs may be high. It also helps
to live in a "rude" city like Boston where juries tend to laugh with
disbelief that anyone would sue over being called a liar.


Finally, I do have a question for you. Why the apparent bias against
people who contribute to alt.religion.scientology?

Arun Malik

P.S. You may also wish to break the list in two: Net Nazis Part 1:
A-M, Net-Nazis Part 2: N-Z as the free version of Free Agent only
allows people to view articles under 60K.


Bruce Baugh

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:

:Bruce Baugh <bru...@teleport.com>


: (homosexual, manager of "christlib" mailing list, voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m},
: has other mental problems (memory loss), seeks to slience "homophobes")

I'd like to thank the Academy, and all the little people out there who made
this award possible. You like me! You really like me!

22: Small minds decay! Average minds delay! Great minds teach All-One
today! Win Victory-Unity & all stand by you! Delay-divide, all deny you!
Remember: The only difference between the brave and the coward, is the brave
has an ideal to fight for, such as helping teach the whole Human race the
Moral ABC of All-One-God-Faith, lightning-like 6 billion strong & we're
All-One! All-One! As astronomers Abraham & Israel teach since the Year One:
"Listen Children Eternal Father Eternal One!" See 22 Manual of Discipline by
Rabbi Jesus on 'Dr. Bronner's Eucalyptus Soap' quarts!

Thank you and good night.


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StarOwl

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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*sigh* Damn, how come *I* didn't make the list? I guess I gotta
try harder.

Mebbie if I posted that entry I found on a phone-book CD-rom
someplace..... ;)

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Stephen Boursy

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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In news.admin.policy, Russ Allbery <r...@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
>In news.admin.net-abuse.misc, Vladimir Fomin <vfo...@panix.com> writes:
>
>> ...

>
>As honored as I am to be included in such august company, I expect either
>proof that I have "impersonate[d] a sysadmin" or a retraction. I've
>already talked to Mickey about joining him in investigating a class action
>lawsuit for libel.
>

Wait a minute here. Michael Phoenix stated quite clearly in these
groups that he WAS filing a lawsuit for libel--not 'investigating'. Just
want to make sure we hold Mickey accountable here--you're the one always
demanding things so we expect you'll be doing it of him by this afternoon.
Unless of course you're a hypocrite.


>I see you didn't post my address or phone number. That was probably a
>good move on your part; if you had, I would have filed a police report.
>


You are correct--if you feel the law has been violated you should
contact the police, etc. instead of whinning to sys admins, issueing forged
cancels, and other low life attempts to take the law in to ones own hands.

But publishing you address and/or phone number is hardly a violation
of the law--I use PowerFinder PhoneDisk--all on CD Rom and public
information. Why on earth would the police care about that?


Steve

I R A Aggie

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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In article <DLA33...@world.std.com>, bou...@world.std.com (Stephen
Boursy) wrote:

+ Wait a minute here. Michael Phoenix stated quite clearly in these
+ groups that he WAS filing a lawsuit for libel--not 'investigating'. Just

This is true.

+ want to make sure we hold Mickey accountable here--you're the one always
+ demanding things so we expect you'll be doing it of him by this afternoon.
+ Unless of course you're a hypocrite.

Gosh, Boursy, you've been talking big for months now. Surely by now
you and your lawyers have had an opportunity to file suit?

+ >I see you didn't post my address or phone number. That was probably a
+ >good move on your part; if you had, I would have filed a police report.
+ >

+ But publishing you address and/or phone number is hardly a violation
+ of the law--I use PowerFinder PhoneDisk--all on CD Rom and public
+ information. Why on earth would the police care about that?

Copyright infringement? [enforcement is the province of the copyright holder]

Intent to harrass?

Now, Boursy, when are you going to denounce the practice of blacklisting
people? or is blacklisting an acceptable practice?

James - I deboursified the newsgroups...

Tom Evans

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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>Tom Evans <ev...@reptiles.org>
> (homosexual)


A high incidence of error. Had you done your homework, Vlad,
you'd clearly see that it was I, who created alt.canadian.beaver.

uhh...when was the last time you met a fag interested in beaver?
Loved the post Vlad, my lawyer will call you in the morning.

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Jim Griffith

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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ds...@packrat.aml.arizona.edu (David Sewell) writes:

>In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, Vladimir Fomin <vfo...@panix.com> wrote:
>[...]


>>David Sewell <ds...@packrat.aml.arizona.edu>
>> (pathological liar and flamer, Department of Geosciences, U Arizona,

>For the public record, I wish to state that I categorically deny being a
>"pathological liar and flamer".

On the other hand, I was excluded from the list. I wish to state, for the
record, that I categorically deny not being a "pathological liar and probable
cat-abuser", which was clearly implied by my omission from his list. I fully
intend to sue Mr. Fomin for libel because of this insult.

David Lynch

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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Vladimir Fomin (vfo...@panix.com) wrote:
: Simon Lyall <si...@midland.co.nz>

: (voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
: Tim Lynch <tly...@alumni.caltech.edu>
: (voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})

Hey, Fomin, you forgot me. If you need justification, just call me a
lying homosexual Nazi forger.

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David Sewell

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, Vladimir Fomin <vfo...@panix.com> wrote:
[...]
>David Sewell <ds...@packrat.aml.arizona.edu>
> (pathological liar and flamer, Department of Geosciences, U Arizona,

For the public record, I wish to state that I categorically deny being a

"pathological liar and flamer". I am, among other things, a writer of
satirical essay and fiction. Vladimir Fomin is evidently incapable of
making the distinction. One imagines him flinging his copy of Gogol or
Mayakovsky to the ground with a shrill, "pathological liars!"

Ah, but Vladimir, that same Gogol has drawn your very portrait in "Dead
Souls", in the character of Nozdryov, with his understanding of how even
the stupidest libel takes on a life of his own:

That Nozdryov was an inveterate liar was a fact they all knew and
it was nothing unusual to hear him talk the most absurd nonsense;
but mortal man being what he is ... however silly a piece of news
may be, so long as it is news, he will consider it his duty to
communicate it to another mortal, if only for the sake of saying,
'Just think what lies people are spreading!'

And so you hope your latest besmirching of people whose main sin is
their attempt to defend civilized behavior will slowly move from
node to node and from newsgroup to newsgroup, and if you're very
very lucky indeed the moral horror that any reasonable person would
associate with the author of this list will somehow detach itself
in the course of transmission and stick to the victims of your abuse
instead.

I'm beginning to think I was wrong in a recent post when I wished that
Nabokov were still alive to draw your character; it's no job for a wit
even as brilliant as his, but rather for the tragic imagination of the
Dostoyevsky who created the Grand Inquisitor.

--Speaking of satire, anyone who reads "Usenet: No Exit" (stored at
<http://packrat.aml.arizona.edu/~dsew/Netwriting/no-exit.html>), has
the author's permission to mentally substitute "Fomin" for "Vulis".
It won't change the meaning. (For all I know, it may not even change
the referent.)
--
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Dep't of Geosciences, Univ. of Arizona | soul is wisest and best."
WWW: http://packrat.aml.arizona.edu/~dsew/ | --Heraclitus

Jack Wilson

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com> vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) says:
>Anonymous <gent...@xmission.com>
> (flaming bully, anonymously voted YY on n.a.n-a.{a,m})
[1300+ lines snipped]

1. This is the best troll I've ever seen. (or worst, depending on how you
look at it.)

2. It bothers me that there are creeps out there keeping "blacklists" of
people who "vote the wrong way" on USENET votes.

3. Why don't you just make a list of everyone who is NOT on your blacklist?
Save some bandwidth.

4. I think everyone, at some point in time, exhibits fascist tendencies.
That is, we favor people we like, and put down people we don't like.
You got a problem with that?

The thing about the internet is that it empowers us all to be
info-fascists; anyone can create his own info-space and then stifle
information or people he dislikes within that info-space.

This is good, because it ensures that no matter how fascist someone is,
there will always be channels available to express differing viewpoints.
Don't like the admins of a MUD? The moderator of a newsgroup? The
maintainer of a FAQ? The content of a popular web site? Start your own
MUD, newsgroup, or whatever.

One might argue that because there is only one USENET (e.g. if someone
becomes immensely unpopular on USENET and gets UDP'd, there isn't another
USENET to post to), that USENET "fascism" is more of a threat than
"fascism" in other types of info-spaces. Maybe USENET is a relic of
simpler times. Y'all might want to discuss this further, which is why...

5. I've directed followups to news.admin.censorship.

--
= Jack Wilson dee...@netcom.com =

Nico Garcia

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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Umm, I think the honest sysadmins *are* the "scum" listed here. And I'm
not listed. BWA-A-A-A-A-A-A-A! I wanna be listed. Sniff. How do *I* get
invited to be libeled by this idiot? Like having a cross burned on
your lawn, it's a sign of pride to decent folk.

Nico Garcia
ra...@mit.edu
My opinions are my own, not MIT's or my employer's or my cat's
(Well, maybe my cat's....)

Alan Bostick

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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Has anyone else whose phone number was included in Fomin's list received any
crank phone calls today?

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Bob Sandiford

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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Stephen Boursy (bou...@world.std.com) wrote:
: In article <4dfct3$n...@news.ccit.arizona.edu>,
: David Sewell <ds...@packrat.aml.arizona.edu> wrote:

: >In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, Vladimir Fomin <vfo...@panix.com> wrote:
: >[...]
: >>David Sewell <ds...@packrat.aml.arizona.edu>
: >> (pathological liar and flamer, Department of Geosciences, U Arizona,
: >
: >For the public record, I wish to state that I categorically deny being a
: >"pathological liar and flamer". I am, among other things, a writer of
: >satirical essay and fiction. Vladimir Fomin is evidently incapable of
: >making the distinction. One imagines him flinging his copy of Gogol or
: >Mayakovsky to the ground with a shrill, "pathological liars!"
: >

: You dare compare yourself to Gogol. Bit of an ego problem huh
: (aside from being a pathologocial liar and flamer).

Oh give us a break, and learn how to follow an argument. David did NOT
compare himself to Gogol, EXCEPT in the sense that both write (wrote?)
satire/fiction. David's argument has to do with V Fomin's apparent lack
of judgment in distinguishing fiction from 'pathological lying', and if
true, then he (Fomin) would apply the same lack of judgement (if you can
apply the lack of something!) to works well known to others to be
fiction. NOWHERE does he 'dare' compare himself to these others.

It's like my saying, 'They laughed at Einstein', and thereby drawing a
conclusion that I'm somehow equivalent to Einstien, where all I'm really
saying is that just because people laugh at me, doesn't mean I don't have
a valid theory (or whatever).

: >
: >I'm beginning to think I was wrong in a recent post when I wished that


: >Nabokov were still alive to draw your character; it's no job for a wit
: >even as brilliant as his, but rather for the tragic imagination of the
: >Dostoyevsky who created the Grand Inquisitor.

: >

: What--trying to puff yourself up by association. Nothing of
: substance to stand on yourself huh?? You don't belong on that
: list--you're to be pitied.

Well, all of us need to be pitied for something....

: Steve

Bob Sandiford
r...@ca.dynix.com

<Insert favourite disclaimer here>


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Stephen Boursy

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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In article <REPOST-20256.381805419922.4dec4d$a...@panix.com>,

Vladimir Fomin <vfo...@panix.com> wrote:
>In <ceicher-1501...@ceicher.inav.net> cei...@inav.net
>(Charles Eicher) writes:
>>In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:
>
>>> Charles Eicher <cei...@inav.net>
>>> (pathological liar and racist)
>
>>I am proud to be 'blacklisted' by such a kook as Fomin. All I ever did was
>>publicly announce I killfiled him.
>
>
>Yet you follow up to my articles. Therefore you lied when you publicly
>announced that you killfiled me. Therefore you confirm that you are
>a pathological liar. Thank you.


Yes--I think most noted that when he quoted you directly. Most
who say they killfile don't really do it--they are only encouraging others
to do so because they find you threatening. Peter V. has stated he's
killfiled me at least 5 times!!


Steve

Stephen Boursy

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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In article <4dfct3$n...@news.ccit.arizona.edu>,
David Sewell <ds...@packrat.aml.arizona.edu> wrote:
>In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, Vladimir Fomin <vfo...@panix.com> wrote:
>[...]
>>David Sewell <ds...@packrat.aml.arizona.edu>
>> (pathological liar and flamer, Department of Geosciences, U Arizona,
>
>For the public record, I wish to state that I categorically deny being a
>"pathological liar and flamer". I am, among other things, a writer of
>satirical essay and fiction. Vladimir Fomin is evidently incapable of
>making the distinction. One imagines him flinging his copy of Gogol or
>Mayakovsky to the ground with a shrill, "pathological liars!"
>

You dare compare yourself to Gogol. Bit of an ego problem huh
(aside from being a pathologocial liar and flamer).

>


>I'm beginning to think I was wrong in a recent post when I wished that
>Nabokov were still alive to draw your character; it's no job for a wit
>even as brilliant as his, but rather for the tragic imagination of the
>Dostoyevsky who created the Grand Inquisitor.
>

What--trying to puff yourself up by association. Nothing of
substance to stand on yourself huh?? You don't belong on that
list--you're to be pitied.

Steve

Tzimon Yliaster

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
to
@ Tzimon Yliaster <tzi...@crl.com>
@ (pathological liar, BBZ Broadcasting)

Note taht I haven't got a clue who this Fomin person is. Never read a
single one of his posts. But, since I've been honored among such
excellent company on your list, I'd like to know three instances of
whatever it is I "pathologically" lied about to put me there.

Think fast now, Vlad. Your credibility (if you have any is on the
line). Three specific instances wherein I lied, please.

BTW, you ought to do your homework a bit. BBZ Broadcasting isn't my
service provider. It's just a line I put in my login file.


Joel B Levin

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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In <4degs5$4...@netsrv2.spss.com>,
Steve Adams <ad...@spss.com (Steve Adams)> wrote:

|vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:
|>Steve Adams <ad...@spss.com>
|
|Oooo! My name in lights. What, pray tell, did I do to get on your list???
|You didn't post any charges! I ought to at least get to know why I made
|the list!

You can have some of mine -- I have extras.

You're welcome. / J

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Peter J. King

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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Given the reference to what others should do, I think that this
response from Fomin's postmaster wasn't meant to be private:


* * *


'Peter J. King' said
>
>
>Dear Postmaster,
>
> I think that your user, Vladimir Fomin, probably needs
>professional help - but in the meantime, could you gently remind him of
>Net etiquette, as well as your terms of use?


We will.

We are looking in to this situation and will determine the proper
action to take against his account. In the meantime I suggest that
you set up a kill file so you do not have to read his crap. Suggest
that other do the same.

/s
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Matthew Schnierle

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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*sneck*

In article <DLA2H...@world.std.com>, bou...@world.std.com (Stephen
Boursy) writes:

> What--trying to puff yourself up by association. Nothing of
>substance to stand on yourself huh??

Pot. Kettle. Boursy.


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"There is no such thing as evidence in HayesWorld, where as you have
stated before, you consider perl code written by Larry Wall and Steve
Boursy to have the same value and quality, until and unless you
personally review every line of each."

Stephen Boursy

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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In article <4delkf$4...@Radon.Stanford.EDU>,
Michael D. Phoenix <mic...@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>This post was also emailed to postm...@panix.com and
>ab...@panix.com, and to postm...@cs.stanford.edu.
>
>
>Dear panix.com Postmaster:
>
>Your user recently posted, as part of a "Blacklist of Net.Nazis and
>Sandlot Bullies", the following libelous information:
>


Alleged libel which is none of a providers business. The only
legitimate authority within US borders is the US Government. Are you
suggesting Panix take on legal liablity for everything their users
post and everything they carry?--that's what you complaint suggests.


>
>The requirements for information to be considered libel are that:
>1) the information must be false.
>2) the information must be published.
>3) there must be "intent to defame".
>
>This information meets all of the above criteria:


According to you. That's what we have the court system in our
country. IF you feel you've been libeled sue him--don't go crying to
mommy. Panix is not a court system and due process is essential to your
free way of life in the US.

>1) I am neither misogynistic nor homosexual, and can establish both by
>appropriate character references on request. Nor have I ever abused
>my alumni account at Stanford, as can be confirmed by contacting the
>appropriate administrative bodies at Stanford.
>


I find that all quite irrelevant of course but if thats't he case
than sue him. But keep in mind the Oscar Wilde story--he tried that and
lost and went to prison.


>2) The information was published on Usenet; there is legal precedent
>for considering publication on Usenet to be publication for the
>purposes of libel.
>


Of course libel laws are quite relevant on the usenet but Panix
is not a court of law. You're an asshole for example--that's quite obvious--
now if you feel defamed by that sue me don't go trying to have my plug
pulled--that just makes you a bigger asshole.


>3) The sole purpose of a blacklist containing false information is the
>defamation of the individuals on the list; furthermore, intent not
>only to defame but to cause damage can easily be established by noting
>the inclusion of my Human Resources Director in the published
>information.
>
>

I've seen you publish some pretty hostle and hateful material--as
you've every right to do. All you've done here is prove the posters
point that you are a two bit censor.


>I will be pursuing legal action against your customer, "Vladimir
>Fomin" (vfo...@panix.com).


Oh--sure you will Michael--please keep us informed :>.

> I respectfully request that you pursue
>internal administrative sanctions against this user as well; lack of
>action on your part, now that you have been informed of the illegality
>of his actions, may cause you to become a party to this illegality.
>


You're a censorous piece of shit Michael--you claim to have been
libeled but haven't demonstated such before a court of law which is what
is required.

>Please keep me informed of any actions you take against this user.
>


Yes--Please keep us all informed. It would be quite something if
Panix assumes liability for its usenet feed. Very doubtful Michael but
your record of plug pulling attempts is well noted.


Steve


Russ Allbery

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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In news.admin.net-abuse.misc, Stephen Boursy <bou...@world.std.com> writes:

> My Russ--your are losing your temper lately.

No, actually I'm getting rather amused. Watching you try to squirm out of
answering my questions is a riot.

> I noticed you amusing letter to Panix posted in
> news.admin.net-abuse.misc trying to get someones plug pulled--not very
> big of you.

That's a lie. Pre-meditated, knowing, and obvious. Thank you; I'll save
this post as interesting evidence the next time you call someone a
pathological liar.

> But Michael Phoenix has stated he's filing a libel suit so I'm sure you
> keep us all informed as to its progress.

Michael said that he's investigating a libel suit. Please keep the facts
straight. I'm considering it. When I decide one way or the other, you'll
know, don't worry.

> Noticed also that many of your associates are becoming quite
> threatened by the existence of news.admin.policy again which presents
> a counterpoint to the average netcop mentality news heirarchy.

news.admin.policy doesn't exist. Do you want Tom to post the evidence
again?

Rob J. Nauta

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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da...@frackit.com (Dave Ratcliffe) writes:

>I just wanna know if I'm a Net Nazi or a Sandlot Bully..

>->Dave Ratcliffe <da...@frackit.com>
>-> (pathological liar)

>That's a damn lie! :)

Damn, someone cancelled that message. I wonder if I was in it. Guess
I'll never know... Time to recompile INN to refuse all cancels...

Rob
--
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~
Rob J. Nauta r...@redwood.nl
NOTE: my opinions are strictly my own and not those of my employer

Charles Eicher

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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In article <DLA3D...@world.std.com>, bou...@world.std.com (Stephen
Boursy) wrote:

> In article <REPOST-20256.381805419922.4dec4d$a...@panix.com>,


> Vladimir Fomin <vfo...@panix.com> wrote:
> >In <ceicher-1501...@ceicher.inav.net> cei...@inav.net
> >(Charles Eicher) writes:
> >>In article <4de45r$9...@panix.com>, vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:
> >
> >>> Charles Eicher <cei...@inav.net>
> >>> (pathological liar and racist)
> >
> >>I am proud to be 'blacklisted' by such a kook as Fomin. All I ever did was
> >>publicly announce I killfiled him.
> >
> >
> >Yet you follow up to my articles. Therefore you lied when you publicly
> >announced that you killfiled me. Therefore you confirm that you are
> >a pathological liar. Thank you.
>
>
> Yes--I think most noted that when he quoted you directly. Most
> who say they killfile don't really do it--they are only encouraging others
> to do so because they find you threatening. Peter V. has stated he's
> killfiled me at least 5 times!!


well, my newsreader (VA-Newswatcher) doesn't have global killfiles (if it
did, he'd be in it). I have to kill him each time he appears in a new
newsgroup. Thus, my extreme irritation in the continuing spread of this
flamewar. I must've killed him 5 times now, thus the '*replonk*'.. Note
that I didn't see Fomin's original message (due to the replonk), and am
only able to see Boursy's reply.

I really could care less if some loon thinks I'm a pathological liar.
Killfiles are empowering for individual users, and Fomin feels threatened
because I took away his power to force me to see his crap. Rage on, I
don't care. Fomin, you are now invisible to me.

Oh, BTW, I'm now putting this thread's subject in my killfile too, so
don't bother to respond, I won't see it.

----------------
Charles Eicher
cei...@inav.net
----------------

Steve Nelle

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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vfo...@panix.com (Vladimir Fomin) wrote:

>Anonymous <edmc...@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
> ("Follower of a clawed albino")

Gee, can I please be put on this blacklist too? After all, I'm a
sysadmin and compatriot of Chris Lewis, and allowed spamcancels to
hit my systems. I also blew away accounts used by Slaton - does that
qualify me?

Steve ;)


Nick Sandru

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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When V. Fomin spits upwards the spittle must come back - on his head. If you
are on Fomin's list, mail the list back to "vfo...@panix.com". Just use the
"Reply" command of your newsreader and mail the message without editing.
There are cca 400 names on the list. Multiply that with 66 KB (the size of
the message)... Maybe some of you will add encoded binaries, core files
and other junk as well - the more, the better. This will be (hopefully)
enough for V. Fomin to get the message.

You might also write a few lines on this to postm...@panix.com if you feel
so, that might be a good remedy against future abuses.

Nick - accused of homosexuality and forgery...

PS - You may mail the list to "ant...@aol.com" (Fomin's AOL account) as
well.

2nd PS - All the above is only a proposal. Do as you wish. If you find
something better, post it.


Deboursify

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Jan 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/16/96
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>Subject: Police Reports and Lawsuits Was: The Blacklist of ...
>From: bou...@world.std.com (Stephen Boursy)
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 14:33:19 GMT
>Message-ID: <DLA33...@world.std.com>

>You are correct--if you feel the law has been violated you should
>contact the police, etc. instead of whinning to sys admins, issueing
>forged
>cancels, and other low life attempts to take the law in to ones own
>hands.

Translation from Boursy-speak: Why bother to take the law into ones
hands when misrepresenting the facts to the policy serve the
purpose? And anyway, why bother actually reporting things? That
takes too much time, and you can intimidate as well with threats
of reports. Keep 'em vague, and constantly changing and very
few can keep up.

Michael D. Phoenix

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Jan 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/17/96
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Posted and mailed to s...@panix.com.

as quoted by Peter J. King <shil...@sable.ox.ac.uk>,

s...@panix.com wrote:
>
>We are looking in to this situation and will determine the proper
>action to take against his account. In the meantime I suggest that
>you set up a kill file so you do not have to read his crap. Suggest
>that other do the same.

I had a kill file set up with his name in it, Ms. Goldsmith.
Fortunately, a friend informed me that I had been libeled, and I was
able to locate the article and read it anyway; I discovered that he
had included the name and phone number of my company's Director of
Human Resources in the libel against me.

I don't believe that a killfile (which is what I normally recommend)
is a sufficient defense against the likes of Mr. Fomin. Whether or
not I read his crap, others do; my employer has already received calls
based on his libel.

This is not acceptable, and will be appropriately responded to in
court.

I recognize that your company is not responsible, nor should it be
responsible, for the political content of the speech of your
customers. However, you are required by law to deal responsibly with
criminal acts committed by your customers; in this case, the criminal
act of libel, publishing false information with intent to defame.

I will keep you informed of any legal actions taken against Mr. Fomin.

Sincerely,

Michael Phoenix
Senior Member of Technical Staff
Filoli Information Systems (which still hasn't changed its policy of
not caring about my sexual orientation)

Stephen Boursy

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Jan 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/17/96
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In news.admin.policy,
Russ Allbery <r...@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
>In news.admin.net-abuse.misc, Stephen Boursy <bou...@world.std.com> writes:
>
>> My Russ--your are losing your temper lately.
>
>No, actually I'm getting rather amused. Watching you try to squirm out of
>answering my questions is a riot.
>


No--you're getting highly irritated Russ.


>> I noticed you amusing letter to Panix posted in
>> news.admin.net-abuse.misc trying to get someones plug pulled--not very
>> big of you.
>
>That's a lie. Pre-meditated, knowing, and obvious. Thank you; I'll save
>this post as interesting evidence the next time you call someone a
>pathological liar.
>

Nope. The letter was there for all to see.


>> But Michael Phoenix has stated he's filing a libel suit so I'm sure you
>> keep us all informed as to its progress.
>
>Michael said that he's investigating a libel suit. Please keep the facts
>straight. I'm considering it. When I decide one way or the other, you'll
>know, don't worry.
>

Nope--he stated clearly he's filing a lawsuit and just did so
again in yet another post.

>> Noticed also that many of your associates are becoming quite
>> threatened by the existence of news.admin.policy again which presents
>> a counterpoint to the average netcop mentality news heirarchy.
>
>news.admin.policy doesn't exist. Do you want Tom to post the evidence
>again?
>

Ah--but it does and you don't like that at all because you are
a censor at heart.

Steve


Jack Wilson

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Jan 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/17/96
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>+ >I see you didn't post my address or phone number. That was probably a
>+ >good move on your part; if you had, I would have filed a police report.
>+ But publishing you address and/or phone number is hardly a violation
>+ of the law--I use PowerFinder PhoneDisk--all on CD Rom and public
>+ information. Why on earth would the police care about that?
>Copyright infringement? [enforcement is the province of the copyright
> holder]
>Intent to harrass?


(I didn't notice the phone numbers and addresses until I saw this thread -
then I went back and looked. Creepy...!)

For what it's worth:

No matter how ridiculous the assertions the guy made are, SOMEONE will
take them at face value. By including real names, phone numbers, and
addresses, the original poster is directly attacking your reputation. You
should take the accusations very seriously.

And yes, saying nasty things about a person and including his/her phone
number and address IS harassment. Again, SOMEONE (actually many people)
will see the "Nazi homosexual fascist liar" label next to an address or
phone number and get outraged, and make a prank call or send hate mail, or
maybe even pay a visit.

Good luck tracking him down... and by the way, is anyone maintaining a
web page about Vladmir's latest stunt?

Stephen Boursy

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Jan 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/17/96
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In news.admin.policy, Russ Allbery <r...@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
>In news.admin.net-abuse.misc, Stephen Boursy <bou...@world.std.com> writes:
>
>> You dare compare yourself to Gogol. Bit of an ego problem huh
>> (aside from being a pathologocial liar and flamer).
>
>"Pathological liar" is a psychiatric evaluation, Steve. Prove it.
>

Not at all. He is a pathological liar.


>You sound like you're searching for a piece of a libel lawsuit too.
>That's how you successfully got the plug of one of your political
>opponents pulled; it would be poetic justice to see you lose your life
>savings the same way.
>

My Russ--your are losing your temper lately. Obviously you're
getting quite frustrated by the loss of control here. I noticed you


amusing letter to Panix posted in news.admin.net-abuse.misc trying to get

someones plug pulled--not very big of you. Fortunately Panix has much more
integrity than you do. But Michael Phoenix has stated he's filing a


libel suit so I'm sure you keep us all informed as to its progress.

Noticed also that many of your associates are becoming quite


threatened by the existence of news.admin.policy again which presents

a counterpoint to the average netcop mentality news heirarchy. They're
quite the censorous lot over there in news.admin.net-abuse.misc.

Steve


Alan Bostick

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Jan 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/17/96