First punk vid on MTV?

Metlhd3138

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Oct 21, 2004, 6:18:26 PM10/21/04

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A few years ago MTV aired something called "retro mtv" where they aired a
handful of videos and segments from a certain year. I caught one devoted to
1981 and they played the ramones video "rock and roll high school" (i didnt
even know they made a video for this!). Was this the first punk vid on mtv?

Keen Anthony

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Oct 21, 2004, 9:54:31 PM10/21/04

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That's cool. I thought MTV only ever played two Ramones videos, the
classic "I Want to Be Sedated" and that theme they didn for Pet
Cemetery II.. "I don't want to be buried, in a pet cemetery..." or
something.

What was the "Rock and Roll High School" video like? Was it just
scenes from the movie?

I've thought the first punk video MTV ever played would have been by
Billy Idol, but his first album was released in 82 with an EP just a
year or so earlier which contained his cover of "Mony Mony." I'm sure
I'm wrong and the real answer is Kraut with the video being "All
Twisted"

- Keen Anthony

Metlhd3138

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Oct 21, 2004, 10:04:49 PM10/21/04

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>
>What was the "Rock and Roll High School" video like? Was it just
>scenes from the movie?
>

It was them in detention. The teacher then left the room and they launched into
the song.

>I've thought the first punk video MTV ever played would have been by
>Billy Idol,

Only if it was his generation x stuff,,most of his solo stuff was more oriented
toward a hard rock audience (white wedding, rebel yell, flesh for fantasy, etc)

Keen Anthony

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Oct 22, 2004, 1:18:42 AM10/22/04

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On 22 Oct 2004 02:04:49 GMT, metlh...@aol.com (Metlhd3138) wrote:

>It was them in detention. The teacher then left the room and they launched into
>the song.
>
>>I've thought the first punk video MTV ever played would have been by
>>Billy Idol,
>
>Only if it was his generation x stuff,,most of his solo stuff was more oriented
>toward a hard rock audience (white wedding, rebel yell, flesh for fantasy, etc)

Impossible. The time between album release dates and MTV's operation
wouldn't have permitted Idol to be the first. Gen X didn't get very
far. I looked it up and according to one punk history site, it was
Kraut that got on MTV first as I thought.

- Keen Anthony

Memory LAME

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Oct 22, 2004, 4:24:11 PM10/22/04

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I remember seeing "Eighties" by Killing Joke in the early days of MTV.
And "Institutionalized" by Suicidal Tendencies, though that came out
in 1983, I believe.

Dave P.
Memory LAME Radio
http://memorylame.cjb.net

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MCT

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Nov 1, 2004, 9:45:37 PM11/1/04

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> >I've thought the first punk video MTV ever played would have been by
> >Billy Idol,
>
> Only if it was his generation x stuff,,most of his solo stuff was more
> oriented
> toward a hard rock audience (white wedding, rebel yell, flesh for fantasy,
> etc)

A while back, we had a thread about classifying various artists and
songs, and I remember that there was some debate about whether or not
Billy Idol belonged in the punk/new wave category or the AOR/hard rock
category.

When I first encountered Idol in the early/mid '80s, I thought of him
as AOR/hard rock; I knew nothing of his background and little about
the punk/alternative scene, and it wouldn't have occured to me to
classify him any other way. Looking back, though, I can see that
there were some things about him and his music that were very un-AOR.
The fact that he came along at a time when AOR was somewhat receptive
to playing "new wave" probably helped him get AOR airplay, but I
actually hear some of his songs on Classic Rock stations today.

In any event, though, to get back to the original topic, I wouldn't
call any of his solo material "punk"; that would be stretching the
definition a bit.