The 'All In The Family' Spin-off Tree
William J. Meyerbeck
1. All in the Family.
2. Maude - Maude was Edith's cousin and on the show a few times.
3. Good Times - Florida was Maude'a made and somehow moved to Chicago
and had her husband change his name from Henry to James. John Amos did
appear on Maude at least one episode. In NY he was a fireman but in Chicago
working at the carwash was the best he could do.
4. The Jeffersons - Next door neighbors on 'All in the Family' before making
money and moving on up.
5. Gloria - Short lived sitcom with Gloria living out west after leaving
'Meathead'
6. Archie Bunker's Place - Archie opens a bar and has mellowed after Edith
'died'
7. Checking In http://us.imdb.com/Title?0081839 - Florence the maid from
'The Jeffersons'
gets a show but then returns when the show flops.
Corrections/additions?
KavisD
on it's own (except for the fact that it was based on another Britcom)?
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This looks pretty complete, William.
But here's a related question; what other shows, particularly sitcoms, produced
spin-offs? Here are a few:
The Andy Griffith Show: --> Gomer Pyle, Mayberry, R.F.D.
The Brady Bunch: --> The Brady Bunch Hour, The Brady Brides, The Bradys,
A Very Brady Christmas
Happy Days (which originated as a segment of Love, American Style): --> Laverne
and Shirley, Mork and Mindy, Joannie Loves Chachi
The Mary Tyler Moore Show: --> Rhoda, Lou Grant, Phyllis (Betty White and
Georgia Engel starred together in the Betty White Show, but playing different
characters)
Three's Company: --> The Ropers, Three's a Crowd
Alice: --> Flo
Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman: --> Fernwood 2-Night, Forever Fernwood, America
2Night
M.A.S.H. --> Trapper John, M.D.
Barney Miller: --> Fish
Cheers: --> Frazier
Different Strokes: --> The Facts of Life
Hill Street Blues: --> Beverly Hills Buntz
The Cosby Show: --> A Different World
then of course there was Green Acres and Petticoat Junction. Neither was
really the spin-off of either show, yet both were set in Hooterville, and
occasionally the characters from one program would show up as the other (whereas
on Mad About You, Kramer from Seinfeld showed up in one episode, whereas
on Seinfeld, the characters would watch "Mad About You," the program).
And, I believe that The X Files also spun-off Millenium.
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none of our pockets are filled with gold
nobody's caught the bouquet
there are no dead presidents we can fold
nothing is going our way
--Tom Waits (More Than Rain, 1987)
MartiDave
writes:
>M.A.S.H. --> Trapper John, M.D.
How can you have forgotten Aftermash!
Dave Spiegel
Dixon Hayes
There was a 90s sitcom starring just the house and the address, with the other
characters being new..."704 Houser." By then a black family had moved into it.
Dixon
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Barney: Robert E. Lee Natural Bridge? I dont believe I've ever heard of that.
Andy: It's just an old log that fell across the creek.
Classic Hollywood Squares: http://www.classicsquares.com
Dixon Hayes
>The Andy Griffith Show: --> Gomer Pyle, Mayberry, R.F.D.
"The Andy Griffith Show" was itself a spinoff, from "Make Room For Daddy," a
memorable one shot episode in which Danny gets pulled over for speeding in
Mayberry and tangles with the hayseed sheriff, Andy Taylor.
>M.A.S.H. --> Trapper John, M.D.
Don't forget "AfterMASH." God knows I've tried.
>Cheers: --> Frazier
Don't forget "The Tortellis," starring Carla's ex-husband.
And oh yeah, "Benson" was a spin-off from "Soap."
>then of course there was Green Acres and Petticoat Junction. Neither was
>really the spin-off of either show, yet both were set in Hooterville, and
>occasionally the characters from one program would show up as the other
>(whereas
>on Mad About You, Kramer from Seinfeld showed up in one episode, whereas
>on Seinfeld, the characters would watch "Mad About You," the program).
Not only that, but they all showed up on "The Beverly Hillbillies" around
Christmastime, yet there was a "Green Acres" episode in which Lisa, Oliver and
Mr. Kimble are seen acting out a "Hillbillies" episode for the town's civic
theatre. The discussion of TV universes, crossovers and overlaps could start a
whole new brain-warping thread by itself ("Ally McBeal"/"The Practice"/"Boston
Public" being a more recent example).
>And, I believe that The X Files also spun-off Millenium.
...and don't forget the short-lived "Lone Gunmen," most remembered now for a
chillingly prophetic episode in which they just barely foil a plot to crash a
jetliner into the World Trade Center (it misses by a few feet).
Jude
> The Brady Bunch: --> The Brady Bunch Hour, The Brady Brides, The Bradys,
> A Very Brady Christmas
You forgot the Brady Kids :D
>
> Happy Days (which originated as a segment of Love, American Style): -->
Laverne
> and Shirley, Mork and Mindy, Joannie Loves Chachi
Besides the cartoon adaptations of HD, L&S, and M&M, there was a short lived
sitcom called "Out of the Blue" featuring a one shot appearance HD character
called Random, he was an angel.
>
> Three's Company: --> The Ropers, Three's a Crowd
A little known fact is that there was a proposed syndicated sitcom called
"Three Apartments" which would have tied in the characters from Three's A
Crowd, The Ropers, and Too Close for Comfort (all DL Taffner programs).
James Dobrovicz
Family, though, Sanford was an American adaptation of a British sitcom
(Sanford came from Steptoe and Son, AITF came from Till Death Do Us Part).
-- James C. Dobrovicz
"Now in glorious digital DVD format so that you, the digital afficionado,
can enjoy the original scratches, pops, and hisses with crystal clarity."
--from the Monty Python's Flying Circus DVDs
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James Dobrovicz
that Mayberry RFD was actually just a continuation of The Andy Griffith Show
minus the Andy and Opie characters, does it really count as a spin-off?
Oh and by the way, I didn't see this mentioned in the thread either:
Sanford and Son ---> Sanford Arms ----> Sanford
-- James C. Dobrovicz
"Now in glorious digital DVD format so that you, the digital afficionado,
can enjoy the original scratches, pops, and hisses with crystal clarity."
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I thought of a few more:
Bewitched:--> Tabitha
The Six Million Dollar Man:--> The Bionic Woman
Dallas:--> Knots Landing
BJ and the Bear:--> The Misadventures of Sheriff Lobo
Soap:--> Benson
The Tracy Ullman Show:--> The Simpsons (not technically a spinoff; more akin
to how Happy Days came out of Love American Style)
America's Funniest Home Videos--> America's Funniest People
recsec
And of course Hello Larry!
> The Cosby Show: --> A Different World
There was also another fromit but I can't think of the name. It starred the
ROTC General from ADW & the woman who was the older student at the school.
> then of course there was Green Acres and Petticoat Junction. Neither was
> really the spin-off of either show, yet both were set in Hooterville, and
> occasionally the characters from one program would show up as the other
I always thought they were spun off of The Beverly Hillbillies.
(whereas
> on Mad About You, Kramer from Seinfeld showed up in one episode, whereas
> on Seinfeld, the characters would watch "Mad About You," the program).
Ursella, Phoebe's twin, was the waitress on Mad ABout You.
Billy
Dixon Hayes
>I have a nitpicky question that maybe Dixon can answer here. Considering
>that Mayberry RFD was actually just a continuation of The Andy Griffith Show
>minus the Andy and Opie characters, does it really count as a spin-off
I am inclined to think it does, since several of the TAGS characters (Aunt Bee,
Goober, Howard, Emmett) continued in their roles and the main character of Sam
Jones (Ken Berry) was introduced during the final season of TAGS.
BTW, Andy and Opie did return occasionally for guest appearances on "Mayberry
R.F.D." And Barney re-appeared one last time in the first episode (he was best
man at Andy's and Helen's wedding, a very funny sequence).
DA66
>Laverne
>and Shirley, Mork and Mindy, Joannie Loves Chachi
You forgot Out Of The Blue. This was about an angel who came down to help us
mere mortals. He first appearred on an episode of Happy Days when Fonzie had to
sell his soul to help Chachi I believe. Then, like Mork, he jettisoned to the
future for his own show. I believe it came on Sundays for a while, but it
didn't last very long.
Beatlfilms
>Tom wrote:
>
>>M.A.S.H. --> Trapper John, M.D.
>
>Don't forget "AfterMASH." God knows I've tried.
In addition to those, there was a series (or maybe just a pilot episode) about
Radar being a police officer back home in Iowa. It was called "W*A*L*T*E*R".
Shawn
The Wanderer
neighborhood had changed featuring a Jamaican family. I believe John Amos
played Mr. Cumberbatch. Think it was like '91 and lasted about 4 weeks or
something.
--
Buddy
from Brooklyn
http://www.geocities.com/thewanderer315/
http://the70s.cjb.net
"You felt fierce pride for your city. You were reminded of Humphrey Bogart's
line to a Nazi officer in 'Casablanca', 'There are a couple of neighborhoods
in New York I wouldn't advise you to invade.' "
Dennis Hamill's (author Pete Hamill's little brother) column in the Daily
News 01/06/02, and my ex-classmate in John Jay H.S.
"The making of an American begins at the point where he himself rejects all
other ties, any other history, and himself adopts the vesture of his adopted
land."
James Baldwin
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Dixon Hayes
>In addition to those, there was a series (or maybe just a pilot episode)
>about
>Radar being a police officer back home in Iowa. It was called "W*A*L*T*E*R".
I think that one was an unsold pilot, just one episode.
Beatlfilms
>Shawn wrote:
>
>>In addition to those, there was a series (or maybe just a pilot episode)
>>about
>>Radar being a police officer back home in Iowa. It was called "W*A*L*T*E*R".
>
>I think that one was an unsold pilot, just one episode.
Does unsold mean unaired? I believe it did air, because I remember watching it
(at least I think I did; short term memory is supposed to be the first thing
to... something or other...). I recall the episode had something to do with
Radar losing his picture of the 4077th gang.
Shawn
Althea Layter
No.
Dixon Hayes
>it
>(at least I think I did; short term memory is supposed to be the first thing
>to... something or other...). I recall the episode had something to do with
>Radar losing his picture of the 4077th gang.
It did air, once, in the "AfterMASH" time slot. TV Guide noted CBS had already
decided not to put it on the schedule.
Sandy
Sandy
2-60
Class of 78
Jude
--
> > Different Strokes: --> The Facts of Life
>
> And of course Hello Larry!
>
>
Hello Larry was a separately created entity that the producers later decided
to make a connection with DS when HL's ratings needed a boost
Jude
>
> You forgot Out Of The Blue. This was about an angel who came down to help
us
> mere mortals. He first appearred on an episode of Happy Days when Fonzie
had to
> sell his soul to help Chachi I believe. Then, like Mork, he jettisoned to
the
> future for his own show. I believe it came on Sundays for a while, but it
> didn't last very long.
>
It was on opposite the killer timeslot of "60 minutes" on CBS and "The
wonderful world of Disney" on NBC
Jeff Troutman
>
> >M.A.S.H. --> Trapper John, M.D.
>
> Don't forget "AfterMASH." God knows I've tried.
You read my mind.
Jeff Troutman
Dixon Hayes
>He first appearred on an episode of Happy Days when Fonzie
>had to
>> sell his soul to help Chachi I believe. Then, like Mork, he jettisoned to
>the
>> future for his own show. I believe it came on Sundays for a while, but it
>> didn't last very long.
I was thinking the "Out of the Blue" crossover happened *after* the show
premiered, so it wouldn't really be a spinoff?
DA66
>premiered, so it wouldn't really be a spinoff?
I am pretty sure the show started after his appearance on Happy Days. I
remember when I was younger, I always kept a list of spinn off shows, and this
one was always on my list. However, I have been wrong before, do maybe I am
this time.
DA66
>to make a connection with DS when HL's ratings needed a boost
That's interesting. I always thought of Hello Larry as a spin off of Different
Strokes.
Dixon Hayes
>to how Happy Days came out of Love American Style)
I think it is a true spinoff, since it was a regular feature on "Ullman." Even
moreso than, say, "Mama's Family" being a spinoff of "The Carol Burnett Show."
Dixon Hayes
>Different
>Strokes.
Nope, just an after-the-fact crossover.
Dixon Hayes
>I am pretty sure the show started after his appearance on Happy Days. I
>remember when I was younger, I always kept a list of spinn off shows, and
>this
>one was always on my list. However, I have been wrong before, do maybe I am
>this time.
The IMdB says it's a spinoff, but I am still not sure I agree and even the
dates don't add up. "Out of the Blue" premiered on September 9, 1979, but the
"Happy Days" episode appeared about two weeks later. I remembered being
familiar with the angel character already and thinking the appearance was a way
to give the new show a boost, kind of like "Diff'rent Strokes" and "Hello
Larry."
Tom of Bunyon
produced
> spin-offs? Here are a few:
>
> The Andy Griffith Show: --> Gomer Pyle, Mayberry, R.F.D.
>
> A Very Brady Christmas
>
Laverne
> and Shirley, Mork and Mindy, Joannie Loves Chachi
>
> Georgia Engel starred together in the Betty White Show, but playing
different
> characters)
>
> Three's Company: --> The Ropers, Three's a Crowd
>
>
> Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman: --> Fernwood 2-Night, Forever Fernwood,
America
> 2Night
>
> M.A.S.H. --> Trapper John, M.D.
>
> Cheers: --> Frazier
>
> Different Strokes: --> The Facts of Life
>
>
> The Cosby Show: --> A Different World
Then there was Beverly Hills 90210 and Melrose Place.
> then of course there was Green Acres and Petticoat Junction. Neither was
> really the spin-off of either show, yet both were set in Hooterville, and
> occasionally the characters from one program would show up as the other
(whereas
> on Mad About You, Kramer from Seinfeld showed up in one episode, whereas
> on Seinfeld, the characters would watch "Mad About You," the program).
Beverly Hilbillies used to cross-pollinate Green Acres and Petticoat
Junction a lot.
Tom of Bunyon
"Dixon Hayes" <dixon...@aol.comspamless> wrote in message
> Shawn wrote:
>
> >In addition to those, there was a series (or maybe just a pilot episode)
> >about
> >Radar being a police officer back home in Iowa. It was called
"W*A*L*T*E*R".
>
> I think that one was an unsold pilot, just one episode.
Then there's the Afghan version - M*O*U*S*T*A*C*H*E
Tom of Bunyon
> >The Tracy Ullman Show:--> The Simpsons (not technically a spinoff; more
akin
> >to how Happy Days came out of Love American Style)
>
> I think it is a true spinoff, since it was a regular feature on "Ullman."
Even
> moreso than, say, "Mama's Family" being a spinoff of "The Carol Burnett
Show."
Roddenberry attempted a spin-off from Star Trek called "Gary Seven" from the
episode of the same title where the Enterprise goes back to 1968 and thwarts
WW-3.
Tom of Bunyon
> William J. Meyerbeck wrote:
>
> >Here is what I know.
> >
> >2. Maude - Maude was Edith's cousin and on the show a few times.
> >3. Good Times - Florida was Maude'a made and somehow moved to Chicago
> >and had her husband change his name from Henry to James. John Amos did
> >appear on Maude at least one episode. In NY he was a fireman but in
Chicago
> >working at the carwash was the best he could do.
> >4. The Jeffersons - Next door neighbors on 'All in the Family' before
making
> >money and moving on up.
> >5. Gloria - Short lived sitcom with Gloria living out west after leaving
> >'Meathead'
> >6. Archie Bunker's Place - Archie opens a bar and has mellowed after
Edith
> >'died'
> >7. Checking In http://us.imdb.com/Title?0081839 - Florence the maid from
> >'The Jeffersons'
> >gets a show but then returns when the show flops.
> >
> >Corrections/additions?
>
> There was a 90s sitcom starring just the house and the address, with the
other
> characters being new..."704 Houser." By then a black family had moved into
it.
You just reminded me of two more - Golden Girls and another show with
Richard Mulligan as a baby doc with two rambunctious daughters who used to
get into rather baudy situations. The second show spun off a third with
Richard Mulligan's Nurse getting a show of her own.
DA66
Dixon Hayes
>episode of the same title where the Enterprise goes back to 1968 and thwarts
>WW-3.
I think that episode was called "Assignment: Earth." I remember it for having
1960s vintage cars and Teri Garr.
Jude
-- > You just reminded me of two more - Golden Girls and another show with
> Richard Mulligan as a baby doc with two rambunctious daughters who used to
> get into rather baudy situations. The second show spun off a third with
> Richard Mulligan's Nurse getting a show of her own.
>
>
Laverne was supposed to get a spinoff but was thought it was better not to
upset the chemistry between the two characters.
The show that did end up on the air was called "Nurses"--it had sister show
crossovers with characters from "Empty Nest" and "Golden Girls, but "Nurses"
wasn't a spinoff.
And "Empty Nest" is only a spinoff in that the original pilot aired as
"Golden Girls" episode featuring entirely different actors and character
names.
Lenny Smith
about
> on it's own (except for the fact that it was based on another Britcom)?
Sanford & Son was a Bud Yorkin production, IIRC, while All In the Family was
produced by Norman Lear and Bud Yorkin. As far as I know, that was their
only relation (besides the fact that both were US versions of Britcoms).
Lenny
Lenny Smith
"Dixon Hayes" <dixon...@aol.comspamless> wrote in message
> Tom wrote:
> >then of course there was Green Acres and Petticoat Junction. Neither was
> >really the spin-off of either show, yet both were set in Hooterville, and
> >occasionally the characters from one program would show up as the other
> >(whereas
> >on Mad About You, Kramer from Seinfeld showed up in one episode, whereas
> >on Seinfeld, the characters would watch "Mad About You," the program).
>
> Christmastime, yet there was a "Green Acres" episode in which Lisa, Oliver
and
> Mr. Kimble are seen acting out a "Hillbillies" episode for the town's
civic
> theatre. The discussion of TV universes, crossovers and overlaps could
start a
> whole new brain-warping thread by itself ("Ally McBeal"/"The
Practice"/"Boston
> Public" being a more recent example).
Further, don't forget that Granny Clampett insisted on going to Hooterville
to deliver one of the Petticoat Junction gal's child. The 3 shows were all
directly connected (as well as surreally connected, as your post above
illustrates--but then, I've always maintained that Green Acres was one of
the most surreal shows that ever aired).
Lenny
Lenny Smith
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> And then there's The Flinstones spin-off, Pebbles and Bam-Bam :)
If you wanna get technical, The Honeymooners begat The Flintstones who begat
The Jetsons as WELL as Pebbles and Bam-Bam. ; )
Lenny
Sandy
>The Jetsons as WELL as Pebbles and Bam-Bam. ; )
>
>
Hey, I forgot all about that Lenny. True, how true.... ;)
Jeff Troutman
>
-but then, I've always maintained that Green Acres was one of
> the most surreal shows that ever aired).
>
Beaten only, IMO, by the Beverly Hillbillies itself. Shows that never
actually ended, but just *stopped* when time was up.
Jeff Troutman
DL
<yourhe...@starpower.net> wrote:
>-but then, I've always maintained that Green Acres was one of
>> the most surreal shows that ever aired).
>>
>
>Beaten only, IMO, by the Beverly Hillbillies itself. Shows that never
>actually ended, but just *stopped* when time was up.
Green Acres (an actual suburb of Spokane about 5 minutes from my
house) always seemed to be very much like a weird Twilight Zone
episode, in which this bright, well-educated man is trapped on a
planet of imbeciles.
- -
DL
http://www.geocities.com/dicklong14_ca/fanclub.htm
>> Evidently your buddy Cedeño is a bastard.
>>
>
>First of all, Cedeño is not my buddy.
Lenny Smith
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> On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 22:19:51 -0500, "Jeff Troutman"
> <yourhe...@starpower.net> wrote:
>
> >-but then, I've always maintained that Green Acres was one of
> >> the most surreal shows that ever aired).
> >>
> >
> >Beaten only, IMO, by the Beverly Hillbillies itself. Shows that never
> >actually ended, but just *stopped* when time was up.
Very true--but, whee doggie, didn't they generate a LOTTA laffs in 30
minutes!
> Green Acres (an actual suburb of Spokane about 5 minutes from my
> house) always seemed to be very much like a weird Twilight Zone
> episode, in which this bright, well-educated man is trapped on a
> planet of imbeciles.
You forgot crabby... which I suspect is why he had to do penance amongst
the simpler, yet friendlier folk. ; )
Definitely was a Twilight Zonish air to the thing though... show was
replete with gypsy curses, witchcraft, UFO's and all sorts of "impossible"
phenomena that happened on a daily basis.
Lenny6
doug holverson
> From: "Lenny Smith" <vze3...@verizon.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.culture.us.1970s
> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 08:40:33 GMT
> Subject: Re: The 'All In The Family' Spin-off Tree
Was the "Time Machine" episode of The Flintstones sort of a try out for the
Jetsons? Am I the only one who remembers or has even seen that episode (it
seems to be rarely rerun)?
DGH
H
something like that? Nancy walker starred in it and she was a relative of
the Cunninghams. She appeared on Happy days once as that character.
.H.
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the Jetson's had been cancelled. It was the world's fair episode from 64' or
65' relating to the fact that world's fair was in New York around that time.
Many bits and peices were borrowed from the Jetsons in that eps.
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through Golden Girls, Empty Nest, Nurses and one other show based in the
same area as GG, EN, and Ns.
I think Laverne from EN did get a spin-off pilot that didn't take off maybe
1 or 2 eps.
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Jude
> Wasn't there another Happy days spinoff called .."Blanskies beauties" or
> something like that? Nancy walker starred in it and she was a relative of
> the Cunninghams. She appeared on Happy days once as that character.
>
> .H.
>
Another instance of the network trying to draw interest in a new show by
having a connection made after the fact. Scott Baio and Lynda Goodfriend
were also on that show, but not as their HD characters. Ironically, Nancy
had just came off the cancellation of "The Nancy Walker Show" in the same
season.