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KS

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Jun 9, 2002, 8:13:29 AM6/9/02
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I am looking for a Catholic orphanage in Troy, NY that was operated by
The Sisters of Charity. I'd like to know if it is still in operation,
what the name of it is, and the address. I have found 2 articles on
the history of Troy, NY and the sisters are mentioned briefly, but not
the orphanage. I am trying to do a family genealogy and my grandmother
and her sisters lived there in the early 1900's. There was another
orphanage for younger children called "The Good Shepherd Home".
Any help is appreciated. email:
kse...@earthlink.net

Jim Elbrecht

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Jun 9, 2002, 10:39:36 AM6/9/02
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KS <kse...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I am looking for a Catholic orphanage in Troy, NY that was operated by
>The Sisters of Charity. I'd like to know if it is still in operation,
>what the name of it is, and the address.

-snip-

Try here; http://www.ccrcda.org/n_troy_2001.asp
[Catholic Charities of [Roman Catholic] Diocese of Albany]

You might also find a lead somewhere within the county Rootsweb pages;
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrensse/

And for fun-- read the very interesting bio of [Saint] Mother Seton
who founded the Sisters of Charity.
http://emmitsburg.net/setonshrine/
[there are some related links there, too]

Elizabeth Seton was an Episcopalian born on Staten Island just before
the Revolution to a second generation minister of St. Andrews
Episcopal church; married at 19; had 5 children; her husband died in
Italy where the family had gone for his health. So Elizabeth found
herself at 29 with 5 children and no husband, in a foreign country in
1803.

The Catholics in Italy treated her so well, that Elizabeth joined the
Catholic church when she returned to the US. [I'm not sure how she
ended up in Baltimore. Perhaps Italian friends suggested it? I think
it was still the center of Catholicism in the US in 1805.] It was in
MD that she started teaching and later founded the Sisters of Charity.

Then, in 1975 she was Canonized by the Catholic Church.
Interesting lady.

Jim

Fun With Sarge

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Jun 9, 2002, 12:16:41 PM6/9/02
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"KS" <kse...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Found a couple leads:

To minister to them, several religious communities were brought into the
Diocese. The Religious of the Sacred Heart, the Sisters of Mercy and the
Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet came to teach girls in both parish and
private schools; the Christian Brothers arrived to teach boys and eventually
to maintain two male orphanages, one in Albany and one in Troy. The
Daughters of Charity, who already directed an orphanage for girls in Albany,
were asked to start one in Troy, as well as a hospital, St. Mary's.

Rev. John J. Conroy, who had been the pastor of St. Joseph's parish in
Albany, became the Diocese's second bishop in 1865, the year Abraham Lincoln
died. Although he was active only 12 years, under his auspices more parishes
were formed, and religious communities were expanded and introduced to staff
ever-widening educational and social services. Among those services was St.
Peter's Hospital, started in Albany by the Sisters of Mercy. They also
opened an orphanage and industrial school in Greenbush (East Albany or
Rensselaer).

From http://www.rcda.org/history1.htm

But I seem to recall stories written within the past year about an
investigation into happenings in an orphange in that vicinity. Can't recall
details.

Fun With Sarge

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Jun 9, 2002, 4:36:33 PM6/9/02
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From the Troy Connors geneology:

Connors Mary 1875 census 1869 8th Ward orphan living in orphanage

Puts the orphange in the 8th Ward.

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Fun With Sarge

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Jun 9, 2002, 5:19:26 PM6/9/02
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Dorothy L. Brown, 1994

Meharry Medical College
General Surgeon, Clinical Professor of Surgery
Nashville, TN


Born in a ghetto rooming house in Philadelphia in 1919, Dorothy L. Brown was
raised in a Troy, New York, orphanage until age 13.

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Jun 9, 2002, 5:36:01 PM6/9/02
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Schuyler Mansion State Historic Site
Philip Schuyler (1733-1804), a descendant of Albany's earliest settlers,
chose an 80-acre parcel of farmland just south of the city of Albany as the
site for his home. Completed in 1763 and built in the elegant Georgian
style, Schuyler's mansion evoked the praise of many travelers who described
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Arnold were among Schuyler's visitors. Alexander Hamilton, who married
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Following Schuyler's death in 1804, the mansion was sold and the land
divided and sold to speculators. The house was used as a private residence
by several different families until 1886, when the mansion became a Roman
Catholic orphanage. In 1912 it was purchased by the State of New York and on
October 17, 1917, the 140th anniversary of General Burgoyne's defeat at
Saratoga, it was dedicated as a state historic site.

Schuyler Mansion, on its small urban plot, is all that remains of an estate
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buildings. Schuyler Mansion is being restored to the splendour of the 1790s
when Philip Schuyler decorated it in the latest style. The site also offers
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Jun 9, 2002, 5:43:57 PM6/9/02
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The NYS Public Library online catalogue lists "Orphanages of NYS" which in
turn has an entry for Troy.
http://catnyp.nypl.org/record=b3102246

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KS

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Jun 12, 2002, 2:01:23 AM6/12/02
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Thank you Mr. Elbrecht and "Sarge". Because of you two, I was able to
email the Catholic Dioceses you mentioned.

I was wondering how you were led to the Connors genealogy, and the
stories on Dorothy Brown and the Schuyler Mansion?

I find it interesting that there may have been an investigation. My
grandmother was so scarred by the experience, it stayed with her
forever. I believe she said the orphanage is closed, but I would like
to know the address and if the building still stands. There is some
confusion, because I have found there was a "Troy Orphan Asylum" which
I believe is now a hospital, a "St Mary's Orphan Asylum", and a
third, and the name escapes me.

Thanks a lot,

Karen

Texensis

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Jun 12, 2002, 8:01:37 AM6/12/02
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"KS" <kse...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Please post and let us know what learn in the future. All I could
think besides the named ones mentioned were St. Colman's (but
Watervliet, I think) and the older VanderHeyden Hall (not Catholic).


Roadrunner

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Jun 11, 2002, 12:53:01 PM6/11/02
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Karen, it may not of too much help, but in the late 40's, when I was a
student at RPI, here was a girls' orphanage, named (gulp!) the Home for
Wayward Girls (religious affiliation unknown to me) on 8th Street, about
two blocks North of the Broadway approach to RPI. I think the
university bought the building as part of its expansion program, and RPI
isn't known to tear down serviceable buildings.

Mike.
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Fun With Sarge

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Jun 12, 2002, 1:46:02 PM6/12/02
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"KS" <kse...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I was wondering how you were led to the Connors genealogy, and the
> stories on Dorothy Brown and the Schuyler Mansion?
>
Just Google searches with different variations of Troy, orphanage,
catholic, etc.

KS

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Jun 13, 2002, 4:46:28 AM6/13/02
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:53:01 -0400, Roadrunner <ceri...@erols.com>
wrote:

>Karen, it may not of too much help, but in the late 40's, when I was a
>student at RPI, here was a girls' orphanage, named (gulp!) the Home for
>Wayward Girls (religious affiliation unknown to me) on 8th Street, about
>two blocks North of the Broadway approach to RPI. I think the
>university bought the building as part of its expansion program, and RPI
>isn't known to tear down serviceable buildings.
>
>Mike.
>-------------------------------------------------

Anything is a help. Today I found this:

http://www.themesh.com/his11.html


The Troy Hospital (St. Mary’s) was founded by Catholic Priest Peter
Havermans, as a result of dealing with destitute and sick Irish
immigrants in 1848. Another hospital, St Joseph's Maternity was
located in the remodled home of the Sisters of St. Joseph on Jackson
and Fourth Streets as late as 1923.
Havermans also founded St. Mary’s Female Orphan Asylum, (later St
Vincent's Female Orphan Asylum) in 1848, run by the Sisters of
Charity, and the Troy Catholic Male Orphan Asylum in 1850.
In 1854, the Church Home of the City of Troy was formed by the
Brotherhood of St. Barnabus as a house of mercy in a house at 5
Harrison Place and later Federal Street. This Episcopal run home
charged $300 for elderly ladies who wanted to become residents. A
Presbyterian home for the aged was formed in 1871 on Fourth Street
(where Proctors Theater is now). The Little Sisters of the Poor
established a home for the indigent in 1875 on Hutton Street.
Mount Magdalen School of Industry and Reformatory of the Good Shepherd
was founded in 1884 by the Religious order of the Good Shepherd for
wayward girls. The reformatory was on Peoples Avenue, part of which is
now used as RPI’s Incubator. This same order ran the Guardian Angel
Home and Industrial School next door.
Homeless infants were cared for by the St. Joseph’s Infant Home
created in 1898 at Thompson and Mill Streets. Working girls were
housed by the Seton Home for Working Girls who lived in the old Jacob
Vanderhyden home north of Hoosick Street. It was run by the Sisters of
Charity.

thanks again,

Karen

KS

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Jun 13, 2002, 4:48:08 AM6/13/02
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:01:37 GMT, "Texensis"
<miste...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>|
>| Karen
>
>Please post and let us know what learn in the future. All I could
>think besides the named ones mentioned were St. Colman's (but
>Watervliet, I think) and the older VanderHeyden Hall (not Catholic).
>

I've found that VanderHeyden Hall used to be Troy Orphan's Asylum, but
was on a different site.

Thank you,

Karen

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my father was in hilltop school for boys.it burned.the priest use to shave the boys heads when they something wrong
email me Shob...@yahoo.com

matthewco...@gmail.com

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my family lived next to the Hillside School for almost 80 yrs

gbfurryp...@gmail.com

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On Sunday, June 9, 2002 at 5:13:29 AM UTC-7, KS wrote:
Hi,

I would check St. Vincent's Female Orphan Asylum. Connors Geneaology use to have a list of the girls there. But , so does Ancestry I believe and also check Troy irish Historical Society from Troy, NY

lindahol...@gmail.com

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St Vincent's Female Orphan Asylum and Free School
opened at the request of Rev Peter Havermans in
Troy, NY in 1848. Incorporated 1863 as St Vincent's
Female Orphan Asylum. Closed 1946 due to financial
difficulties. Children transferred to St Vincent's Home
in Albany, NY.

bhatfi...@gmail.com

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What year did it close?
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