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Ithaca: a true world of its own

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rp0...@albnyvms.bitnet

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May 11, 1993, 9:36:16 AM5/11/93
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Amid the talk of the Soda/Pop line (I think it runs North-South, from
Rochester to Corning, aprox.), Mitch Collinsworth pointed out that Ithaca
is so different from the rest of the state that it shouldn't be included
in most "demographic" discussions. I would tend to agree, and I would
also say that most of Ithaca's charm comes from the fact that it is
different from the world around it.

If there is a single reason for Ithaca's unique character, it would
probably be Cornell U., which attracts all kinds of people from the entire
world. (I interned there last summer - I loved it!) Without a doupt,
visitors to the Finger Lakes and Ithaca college spice things up as well.

In short, if you want to look at Upstate New York, keep in mind that Ithaca
is a unique little city; look at it seperately.

Richard Pugh
Part time native of Cortland, New York.
rp0...@uacsc1.albany.edu

tkrisse...@xerox.com

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May 14, 1993, 1:49:10 PM5/14/93
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In article <1993May11.1...@sarah.albany.edu> rp0...@albnyvms.bitnet writes:
>Amid the talk of the Soda/Pop line (I think it runs North-South, from
>Rochester to Corning, aprox.), Mitch Collinsworth pointed out that Ithaca
>is so different from the rest of the state that it shouldn't be included
>in most "demographic" discussions. I would tend to agree, and I would
>also say that most of Ithaca's charm comes from the fact that it is
>different from the world around it.
[...]

>In short, if you want to look at Upstate New York, keep in mind that Ithaca
>is a unique little city; look at it seperately.

However Ithaca shares one thing in common with many of the towns that
surround it: a descrease in the number of small businesses. The last
time I was there I was shocked by the number of vacant businesses in
and around The Commons. I guess you could make this barroom generality
about the whole country, though.

Todd Krissel
tkrisse...@xerox.com

Kathleen Treole

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May 28, 1993, 12:32:18 PM5/28/93
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In article <1993May11.1...@sarah.albany.edu> rp0...@albnyvms.bitnet wri
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>Amid the talk of the Soda/Pop line (I think it runs North-South, from
>Rochester to Corning, aprox.), Mitch Collinsworth pointed out that Ithaca
>is so different from the rest of the state that it shouldn't be included
>in most "demographic" discussions. I would tend to agree, and I would
>also say that most of Ithaca's charm comes from the fact that it is
>different from the world around it.

You bet...Ithaca really is one of the liveable places I have been (albeit in my
rather short lifetime!!)

Kat

Stuart Luppescu

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May 28, 1993, 2:00:16 PM5/28/93
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I agree with kat. But I think Mitch's observation is somewhat hard to
support completely. The problem is that there is no distict boundary
between Ithaca and the surrounding areas. Many of the people who live
in the surrounding areas such as Trumansburg, Caroline, Slaterville,
and a lot of other places whose names I forget despite having lived in
the area for 10 years, are really ``Ithaca people,'' working and
taking advantage of the Ithaca culture. On the other hand, there are
a lot of really different people living in those communities as well.

--
Stuart Luppescu | ``Anyone who believes that any sequence of
Department of Education | numbers produced by a computer can be truly
University of Chicago | random is living in a state of sin.''
sl...@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu | -- John von Neuman

Mitch Collinsworth

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Jun 4, 1993, 12:05:23 PM6/4/93
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>>>Amid the talk of the Soda/Pop line (I think it runs North-South, from
>>>Rochester to Corning, aprox.), Mitch Collinsworth pointed out that Ithaca
>>>is so different from the rest of the state that it shouldn't be included
>>>in most "demographic" discussions. I would tend to agree, and I would
>>>also say that most of Ithaca's charm comes from the fact that it is
>>>different from the world around it.

>>You bet...Ithaca really is one of the liveable places I have been (albeit in my
>>rather short lifetime!!)

>I agree with kat. But I think Mitch's observation is somewhat hard to
>support completely. The problem is that there is no distict boundary
>between Ithaca and the surrounding areas. Many of the people who live
>in the surrounding areas such as Trumansburg, Caroline, Slaterville,
>and a lot of other places whose names I forget despite having lived in
>the area for 10 years, are really ``Ithaca people,'' working and
>taking advantage of the Ithaca culture. On the other hand, there are
>a lot of really different people living in those communities as well.

What I said, in response to Wendy Alberg's statement that "in Ithaca it's
soda", is that Ithaca's culture is not from Ithaca. I was merely
pointing out that in the attempt to draw a pop/soda line somewhere in
NYS, Ithaca should be considered an anomoly rather than a useful data
point.

Such a high percentage of Ithaca people are from elsewhere that the
culture is imported, rather than locally defined. In fact so many of
the people come from one area in particular that one of Ithaca's nicknames
is the little apple. Of course there is no distinct boundary between
Ithaca and surrounding areas. What do you suggest, a wall? That's been
tried elsewhere, but it didn't last. :-)

-Mitch Collinsworth
mi...@graphics.cornell.edu

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