Here is my favorite: In the Finger Lakes area in NY we had "dish-to-pass"
lunches or "dish-to-pass" dinners, meaning everyone brought a large
contribution to the meal, be it a salad, entree, or dessert and everyone
shared, either by passing the dishes around, or putting them on a buffet
table. Here in central Ohio where I live now, that is called a "pot-luck"
dinner. No one ever heard of a "dish-to-pass" dinner. When I use the term
"dish-to-pass" here in Ohio, people have no idea what I'm talking about!
How about it everyone? What other words or phrases have you found to be
used in upstate but not elsewhere? What kind of reactions have you gotten
by using these "foreign" terms?
Or, if you are a transplant to upstate, what words and terms have you heard
that have thrown you for a loop, and never heard before?
: Here is my favorite: In the Finger Lakes area in NY we had "dish-to-pass"
: lunches or "dish-to-pass" dinners, meaning everyone brought a large
: contribution to the meal, be it a salad, entree, or dessert and everyone
: shared, either by passing the dishes around, or putting them on a buffet
: table. Here in central Ohio where I live now, that is called a "pot-luck"
: dinner. No one ever heard of a "dish-to-pass" dinner. When I use the term
: "dish-to-pass" here in Ohio, people have no idea what I'm talking about!
no we have that expression very much alive and well in oneonta area -
otsego, chenango, delaware and schoharie county areas too.
all the churches have them. also, covered-dish suppers. what is the
difference between a covered-dish supper and a regular supper though?? :P
:)
covered-dish supper is a mouthful for me to say, too.
: How about it everyone? What other words or phrases have you found to be
: used in upstate but not elsewhere? What kind of reactions have you gotten
: by using these "foreign" terms?
i have known people from all over the country and world and have grown
accustomed to hearing certain expressions, ways of talking and don't usually
question it. i usually figure it out from context of the conversation and
let the expression, phrase or whatever, exist in its own beauty and not mar
it by asking to parse it out. :)
i'll think more about upstate words and phrases but so far i've not
experienced too many odd ones. :) just sometimes accents that are clearly
western new york. :)
: Or, if you are a transplant to upstate, what words and terms have you heard
: that have thrown you for a loop, and never heard before?
well in massachusetts they call carts carriages and liquor stores package
stores which i find extremely wacky, but i guess just using the word pop
was surprising enough from upstate new york. :)
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And a milkshake a frappe.
And Candice in Ohio probably hears her neighbors talking about grocery sacks
instead of bags.
And is a garage sale now a tag sale?
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I'm surprised that you failed to mention Rochester's use of the word "pop" to
mean soda.
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Candice E. Sheradin wrote:
> Does anyone have any phrases or words that are used Upstate, but when used
> elsewhere people look at you as if they have no idea what you are talking
> about?
>
> Here is my favorite: In the Finger Lakes area in NY we had "dish-to-pass"
> lunches or "dish-to-pass" dinners, meaning everyone brought a large
> contribution to the meal, be it a salad, entree, or dessert and everyone
> shared, either by passing the dishes around, or putting them on a buffet
> table. Here in central Ohio where I live now, that is called a "pot-luck"
> dinner. No one ever heard of a "dish-to-pass" dinner. When I use the term
> "dish-to-pass" here in Ohio, people have no idea what I'm talking about!
>
> How about it everyone? What other words or phrases have you found to be
> used in upstate but not elsewhere? What kind of reactions have you gotten
> by using these "foreign" terms?
>
Now living in N.W. Pa. and having grown up in Troy, soda always throws them
a curve. It's pop all the way here. Fish fry is something they can't
relate to here. Ted's on Hoosic St. is a favorite stop when I get home.
Live in Mass. for awhile. Strange term was close the lights instead of
turn off the lights, and the drinking fountain was a bubbler.
CC
>
> : How about it everyone? What other words or phrases have you found to
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One that comes to mind is "License Plates" or "Plates" for our cars, as
opposed to many of those ouside of New York who call them "Tags"
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> I live in Binghamton and work in Elmira And have run across a few things.
> And the girl that is getting married is not a bride to be , but she
> is a bride elect
separation of church and state??
>Does anyone have any phrases or words that are used Upstate, but when used
>elsewhere people look at you as if they have no idea what you are talking
>about?
I live in CNY and when my family first received cable television in
1977 they installed a large box with a cable that attached to your
television. This cable box was used to switch the channels by pressing
toggle buttons. The cable was never long enough so you had to sit
closer to the tv in order to conveniently switch the channels.
We always would say to the person who was nearest the cable box, and
if they weren't actually watching tv, to pass the "box" so we could
switch channels.
It has been over 18 years since we relinquished the cable box for a
remote control, but I still use the word "box" when I am referring to
the tv remote control. My brother in-law who is from CNY also said he
uses the word "box" for the remote control. The first time I said to
my siser's fiance (he is from North Carolina) while we were watching
tv "please pass the box", he asked me "what box?" I just kept pointing
to the remote saying "the box, the box." He must have thought I was
looney.
Also on Seinfeld, they say "black and whites" for "half-moon cookies."
I don't know if the phrase "half-moon cookies" is used anywhere else
than upstate NY?
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Paul R. Davis wrote in message <367AE1B0...@traknet.com>...
>Live in Mass. for awhile. Strange term was close the lights instead of
>turn off the lights, and the drinking fountain was a bubbler.
>
Wisconsin has bubblers too.
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>Does anyone have any phrases or words that are used Upstate, but when used
>elsewhere people look at you as if they have no idea what you are talking
>about?
>
One I've always related to UNY (WNY) is "Hiya" Haven't heard it too
much outside the home turf.
Now if you go back to the 50's when a lot of us were kids, does anyone
remember "calling" their friends? Where you would go over to the house
and yell for them using Oh! and the first name broken into two
syllables. We never used doorbells or knocked, just called.
can they also go by the name "grinder"?
just curious.
always wondered why they're called grinders, if that is what they're
referring to.
Well, there's always that soda/pop line. I understand west of Auburn or so,
it's pop, and east of Auburn, it's soda. I gather there's a north-south
variant, too, but I'm not sure where the line is drawn.
Todd.
In article <75ek3k$cl4$1...@news.monmouth.com>, "Dick Casaly"
In article <TVBe2.1197$9v.97...@iagnews.iagnet.net>, "Greg Boyle"
>In Ballston Spa and sometimes in Saratoga Springs they go "downstreet"
>instead of "downtown."
>
I have caught "overstreet", too.
>the tv remote control. My brother in-law who is from CNY also said he
>uses the word "box" for the remote control.
I am not really a CNY native but I picked up "God Box" as a suitable
replacement for "remote control" long ago. Makes sense, doesn't it?
: Does anyone have any phrases or words that are used Upstate, but when used
: elsewhere people look at you as if they have no idea what you are talking
: about?
I was just thinking of regional vernacular that I've learned since moving
to Colroado - pop-tops (adding a second story to a house, apparently very
common in Denver), scrapeoffs (tearing down a smaller house to build a
tract mansion, again quite common), fourteener (mountain over 14,000'
high), Colorado date (hike followed by a trip to a brewpub), Denver square
(a type of house), and, when looking for a house, any neighborhood with
1920s era bungalows is touted as "the next Wash Park." Almost everything
here is described as "extreme," too.
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: Now if you go back to the 50's when a lot of us were kids, does anyone
: remember "calling" their friends? Where you would go over to the house
: and yell for them using Oh! and the first name broken into two
: syllables. We never used doorbells or knocked, just called.
Same thing when I was growing up in Buffalo - that was the early to
mid-70s. Haven't heard "Oh name-here, can you play?" anywhere since the
late 1970s.
Allegra Boverman wrote:
> can they also go by the name "grinder"?
> just curious.
> always wondered why they're called grinders, if that is what they're
> referring to.
When I was much younger working in Maine, in late 1950s, these
sandwiches were called "grinders" which seemed to be a short form of
"Ginny Grinder" or "Italian Grinder".
I guess folks weren't so politically correct in thoe days.
As a kid on Long Island (NY) these sandwiches were called "heros".
And someplace in my travels they were called "tunnels".
Richard
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interesting.
i have seen the word grinders used to to describe subs in tioga county and
vicinity of watkins glen.
: Subs were originally called submarine sandwiches for the obvious reason that
: they look like one. We also used to call them hoagies grinders and 'talian
: sandwiches in Boston in the 1950's.
I always find the variances of phrases and terms for things across the
country really interesting. I like to treat them as dialects just as we
term them in other countries. Over the years, here's what I've come to hear
and understand:
Sandwiches (particularly piled high on long break, length-wise):
Downstate NY (NYC, LI): Hero
Philadelphia: Hoagie
Connecticut/Mass./Maine(?): Grinder
Upstate NY/Eastern Pennsylvania: Sub/Submarine
As far as other parts of the country go, I haven't heard anything other than
"sub," but I wouldn't be surprised to hear something else.
Beverages:
Downstate NY/Eastern NY/New Jersey: Soda
Western NY/Western Pennsylvania: Pop
Now, in the South and West, I've heard of all different kinds of things. I
can't remember which goes with where, but I've heard "pop," "soda-pop," and
"coke." "Coke" is the strangest, because we all pretty much know "coke" as
Coca-Cola. Well, if you want a "Sprite," you say you want a "Sprite coke."
If you say "coke" where it means "soda," the person waiting on you will ask
you "what flavor?" or something to that effect. I'll accept "pop," but not
"coke." :-)
Greg H.
: Or, if you are a transplant to upstate, what words and terms have you heard
: that have thrown you for a loop, and never heard before?
Besides finding out that "pop" is used in the Northeast, I've found people
saying they are "waiting in line" rather than what I'm used to (being from
NYC) as "waiting on line." This is what my wife says since she grew up in
CNY, along with the whole "pop" thing :-)
Greg H.
>Same thing when I was growing up in Buffalo - that was the early to
>mid-70s. Haven't heard "Oh name-here, can you play?" anywhere since the
>late 1970s.
>
Yeah, that's where we did it! I grew up in the Bailey-Genesee area.
Having grown up in Western Pa, we used to love to go "sled-riding" (as
opposed to "sledding" in upstate NY lingo). Also, at the park, kids love
to play on the sliding-board, which up here, is simply a slide.
Finally, I went to Sears and asked if they had any sales on "sweepers"..
The clerk just stared at me blankly, until I was able to walk over and
point at a vacuum cleaner... you know, a "sweeper"!?
Brad
DC
DC
: But whether we are waiting in, or waiting on, we always seem to be spending
: too much time in those damn lines.
Ain't that the truth. Of course, if it weren't for lines, we'd all just
be milling around (sorry; shameless "Michael" movie reference).
Greg H.
I prefer the British term - queueing. I stand in queues all the time.
Then there's the old "snigglet" for wading through the ropes - furbling.
How about "camp". We use it to mean a summer cottage on a lake etc. while
99% of the US uses it to mean a place Boy Scouts go and pitch a tent.
As far as "sub" (hoagie, grinder etc.) I think that's an item which has
a different word in every part of the US.
As far as soda/pop, that seems to be a popular topic here. A former girlfriend
(from Michigan) used to get pissed at me for calling the stuff "soda". A
few other Upstate NY regionalisms I have (what accent? :-) ) as well as some
New Englandisms I've picked up bugged her too.
-Mike
:> Same thing when I was growing up in Buffalo - that was the early to
:> mid-70s. Haven't heard "Oh name-here, can you play?" anywhere since the
:> late 1970s.
:
: Yeah, that's where we did it! I grew up in the Bailey-Genesee area.
AK-47s in the air to call each other. :-) If you're _really_ from Buffalo,
you can probably identify the meanings of "pogey" and "skeetch." Both the
words mean the same thing - "pogey" was more commonly used in the
northeastern city neighborhoods.
Another strange Buffalo tradition I now remember - "Beggar's Night,"
an additional night of trick-or-treating the day before Halloween. It was
a city-only thing - as soon as you cross over the city line into the
'burbs, trick-or-treating takes place only on Halloween.
I remember trick-or-treaters coming around on Beggar's Night when my family
lived in Williamsville. (I had almost forgotten about it! Thanks!)
Steve
weird, huh?
DC
Andy_D wrote in message <367c9977...@news.neonexus.com>...
>AK-47s in the air to call each other. :-) If you're _really_ from Buffalo,
>you can probably identify the meanings of "pogey" and "skeetch." Both the
>words mean the same thing - "pogey" was more commonly used in the
>northeastern city neighborhoods.
>
>Another strange Buffalo tradition I now remember - "Beggar's Night,"
> an additional night of trick-or-treating the day before Halloween. It was
>a city-only thing - as soon as you cross over the city line into the
>'burbs, trick-or-treating takes place only on Halloween.
>
We used to do beggar's night and would sometimes be able to get away
with some trick-or-treating the following night.
Pogey? As in free rides behind cars? That's what we used to call the
process of hanging out at the corners when the roads were snow or ice
covered, wait for a car to come around the corner, latch on to the
bumper for a free ride. Yeah, even had that in Cheektowaga.
> I always find the variances of phrases and terms for things across the
>country really interesting. I like to treat them as dialects just as we
>term them in other countries. Over the years, here's what I've come to hear
>and understand:
>
>Sandwiches (particularly piled high on long break, length-wise):
>
>Downstate NY (NYC, LI): Hero
>Philadelphia: Hoagie
>Connecticut/Mass./Maine(?): Grinder
>Upstate NY/Eastern Pennsylvania: Sub/Submarine
>
>As far as other parts of the country go, I haven't heard anything other than
>"sub," but I wouldn't be surprised to hear something else.
>
> Greg H.
In White Plains in the 50s they were called wedges.
Another upstate oddity:
In and around Oneonta people fequently say "onto" where most would say
"on." This list has a bunch of good people onto it, for example.
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> Another strange Buffalo tradition I now remember - "Beggar's Night,"
> an additional night of trick-or-treating the day before Halloween. It was
> a city-only thing - as soon as you cross over the city line into the
> 'burbs, trick-or-treating takes place only on Halloween.
I grew up on Long Island (Bellmore), and we used to go begging on
Thanksgiving day.
Never saw it anyplace else either.
Richard
>In the Boston area that pop would be a tonic.
>
>And a milkshake a frappe.
>
>And Candice in Ohio probably hears her neighbors talking about grocery sacks
>instead of bags.
>
>And is a garage sale now a tag sale?
I haven't heard it called a tag sale in my area (near Albany) but have
heard that used in Massachusetts, around North Adams.
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>Are you an ex-nuke Greg? Me too, class of 62-4.
>
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>
>Greg Boyle wrote in message ...
>>I lived in the Saratoga Springs area for 4 years while in the Navy. The
>>most annoying saying I experienced was "look it." I'm sure it would be
>>pretentious to say, "now see here", but the phrase "look it" drove me
nuts.
>>Another pronunciation difference was the "tt" in the middle of a word. In
>>the Capital District, the second t was never annunciated so mitten would
be
>>pronounced "mitt (slight pause) -en".
>>Being from the Midwest, I speak 'network English' and only got pounced on
>>for saying 'pop' instead of soda.
>>
>>
>
>
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: I haven't heard it called a tag sale in my area (near Albany) but have
: heard that used in Massachusetts, around North Adams.
there is a difference between a tag sale and garage sale.
tag sale is when independent people or business comes in to your home, takes
over for the day and is in charge of selling your furniture, goods, etc.,
and gets a portion of the profits.
garage sale is you do it all yourself.
this is how it is on long island, at least, and i stilll see plenty of
garage sales upstate, few tag sales.
: In and around Oneonta people fequently say "onto" where most would say
: "on." This list has a bunch of good people onto it, for example.
gosh i never noticed that! wow. and i'm a reporter/photographer in oneonta
and have lived there already about 2 years.
i'll listen even MORE carefully than before! :)
>Another upstate oddity:
>
>In and around Oneonta people fequently say "onto" where most would say
>"on." This list has a bunch of good people onto it, for example.
>
>Joel Shimberg
"Onto" is also used frequently by many hilltown residents in western Albany
County (in the direction of Oneonta ... maybe it's catching <g>).
Ain't that the truth.
Greg H.
> Another upstate oddity:
>
> In and around Oneonta people fequently say "onto" where most would say
> "on." This list has a bunch of good people onto it, for example.
>
> Joel Shimberg
I have noticed a similiar use of "into" instead of "in".
Richard
Rome NY
: How about "you'se" Such as in "you'se guys better..."
: Maybe that's just a west side of Syracuse, Irish thing.
that is also a very new jersey thing - southern jersey to be exact. had a
couple of friends in college from there who used that word affectionately
and it became my group of friends' buzzword.
we would always greet one another by saying "Hello to Youse."
>there is a difference between a tag sale and garage sale.
>tag sale is when independent people or business comes in to your home, takes
>over for the day and is in charge of selling your furniture, goods, etc.,
>and gets a portion of the profits.
>
>garage sale is you do it all yourself.
>
>this is how it is on long island, at least, and i stilll see plenty of
>garage sales upstate, few tag sales.
But that's not universal. In the Southwest, where many people don't need
garages, they call them yard sales. In southwestern Connecticut they call
them all tag sales.
Joel
I believe it's originally from Ireland. Shows up in New York City (though
a lot less than it used to) -- among people whose ancestors were never
near Ireland. It also shows up in Australia.
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>
> Oh, gosh! My sisters and I picked that up, horrifying my mother. (That and
> "anyways")
I think I would rather listen to "anyways" than the now overused "anyhoo..."
how annoying, unless you're Ned Flanders of course.
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>there is a difference between a tag sale and garage sale.
>tag sale is when independent people or business comes in to your home, takes
>over for the day and is in charge of selling your furniture, goods, etc.,
>and gets a portion of the profits.
That's not what a tag sale was in Connecticut. They simply didn't have
"garage" sales, they were called "tag sales".
>
>garage sale is you do it all yourself.
>
>this is how it is on long island, at least, and i stilll see plenty of
>garage sales upstate, few tag sales.
If someone is having a "tag sale", you know they aren't from Upstate. That's
what the difference is between a garage/yard sale and a tag sale - whether or
not you're from here or not. Someone else is doing it for you doesn't make a
bit of difference.
Sandy
Oh, gosh! My sisters and I picked that up, horrifying my mother. (That and
"anyways"). Odd thing is that she was from Schenectady and we picked it up in
Schenectady county. Must have been a post WWII thing, or something.
Sandy
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