Lounge A Palooza
CARS YES
Just heard the new Lounge A Palooza CD. Bitch'n! Check it out!
Stevie Martini
Greg Clow
CARS YES <car...@aol.com> wrote:
: Just heard the new Lounge A Palooza CD. Bitch'n! Check it out!
Eh. It's OK, but not "bitch'n" by any means. There are a couple of really
great tracks, like the Ben Folds Five version of "She Don't Use Jelly" and
Steve & Edie's "Black Hole Sun". But there are some really stinky bits
too, like Jimmy Smith & Flea doing "Love Will Keep Us Together". Bleh.
The whole concept seemed a little muddled to me as well. I mean, you've
got current artists doing lounge versions of current songs, lounge artists
doing lounge versions of current songs, current artists doing sort-of
lounge versions of lounge songs, and one track by a current artist that
has absolutely nothing to do with lounge except that it mentions a lounge
artist in the title. Should've picked one concept and stuck with it.
Oh, and I think the title really blows. I got tired of phrases with
"Palooza" stuck on the end years ago.
All of this makes me wonder if the album's claim of "taking lounge to its
illogical conclusion" might not be a truism. I mean, yeah, I still dig
the swingin' sounds, the swank drinks, etc., but I just get the feeling
that the whole "cocktail nation" thing is pretty much played out. Maybe
it's a good thing... the pseudo-hipsters will unload their pseudo-hip duds
and lounge CDs and hop on the next "cool" train through town, leaving
those of us who actually *enjoy* the music and such to retreat back to our
rec rooms to party with a little more privacy. Anyone else have opinions
on this?
Greg
CARS YES
I Hear what you are saying, but I like it just the same. I'm not too much of a
purist to not enjoy something fun like Lounge A Palooza. Sure it's never going
to be the new Quite Village or anything, but what the hell?
The Chuckman!
Greg Clow (sta...@interlog.com) wrote:
: CARS YES <car...@aol.com> wrote:
: : Just heard the new Lounge A Palooza CD. Bitch'n! Check it out!
:
: Eh. It's OK, but not "bitch'n" by any means. There are a couple of really
: great tracks, like the Ben Folds Five version of "She Don't Use Jelly" and
: Steve & Edie's "Black Hole Sun". But there are some really stinky bits
: too, like Jimmy Smith & Flea doing "Love Will Keep Us Together". Bleh.
I have to agree. I won the CD at "The Five Spot" in Philly. It was
actually a release party for the CD, apprantly. I got home and found the
same thing as you. Only the Ben Folds Five song and the cover of "Black
Hole Sun" were the only two REALLY good tracks. The rest were like
"bleh."
: Oh, and I think the title really blows. I got tired of phrases with
: "Palooza" stuck on the end years ago.
I don't even want to talk about that.
: All of this makes me wonder if the album's claim of "taking lounge to its
: illogical conclusion" might not be a truism. I mean, yeah, I still dig
: the swingin' sounds, the swank drinks, etc., but I just get the feeling
: that the whole "cocktail nation" thing is pretty much played out. Maybe
: it's a good thing... the pseudo-hipsters will unload their pseudo-hip duds
: and lounge CDs and hop on the next "cool" train through town, leaving
: those of us who actually *enjoy* the music and such to retreat back to our
: rec rooms to party with a little more privacy. Anyone else have opinions
: on this?
What you said above really disturbs me. I love the music. I really do
and always have. What I like more, though, is the idea that older people
are getting dresed up to go out and have a few drinks. You may refer to
it as the "cocktail nation" or "swing scene" but it's really about much
more than that. The first time I ever went to The Five Spot, I got this
really great feeling seeing people my age (I'm 23) actually dressed nice,
going out, and acting a little more mature. Not that I have anything
against irreverence or immaturity. I just can't stand the whole
disillusioned gothic/punk-rock-I-hate-everything-fuck-off-and-die thing.
I can only wonder why there are still people in their 30s living like
homeless people, wearing dirty clothes. I really just don't get it. I
have only gotten a taste of this nice atmosphere some would label
"cocktail nation" but I would like to think that it is more than just
that. It's almost civilized. People look clean.. Is it just me or is
that a good thing? People had on suits! My age! To got out! I loved
it. Obviously there is a marketing exploitation of it with these albums
and the media, but I really feel there is more to it than that. I have to
admit I loved the movie "Swingers" (and the soundtrack) but it may also be
the ruin of the whole thing. It's not about a scene, but there is such a
childish mentality to it. It seems like kids are almost programmed to dis
something as soon as it comes around. Like, to be cool, you have to hate
that which is popular and be part of the underground, regardless of the
fact that it all changes overnight. This mentality is so ridiculously
hypocritical. I just don't understand why, now that I've found a place
where I like to go and listen to music I like, I have to now endure
bullshit like "Oh, you're SOOOO swingers." (I had a fucking girl say that
to me in a bar on South Street, probably just because she was jealous of
the fact that my clothes weren't dirty.) The mentality is so stupid.
God, that was so long, but I felt I had to vent. Not really even sure if
anyone will see this, but it's how I feel. I really wish someone would
just carpet-bomb South St. and end those poor kid's suffering. They love
to tolerate everything but tolerence. Oh well... I guess I just have to
relish in the fact that I can hold a job.
For the most part I agreed with you, I would just hate to lose the places
that cater to what I like, y'know?
Oh, just for fun, here's a joke:
Q: How do you know a hippy (or punker or other slacker-type) has been in
your house?
A: He's still there.
Sincerely,
Chuck Taylor
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huxley
>
> Um... As a Lounge-goth, I'd have to point out that *most* goths are almost
> fanatical about their pristine appearance. You may be confusing them with
> those Marilyn Manson spookykids. Believe me, it's not the same thing at all.
So, what is a Lounge-goth? I've never heard of that.
Stained
huxley wrote:
> So, what is a Lounge-goth? I've never heard of that.
It's someone who is first and foremost a goth; black clothes, pale skin,
dark make-up, likes "goth" music such as The Sisters of Mercy, etc., but
also enjoys a great deal of stuff *beyond* the goth cliche, such as lounge,
jazz, swing, etc. I've discovered that there's actually at least a good
dozen or so over on alt.gothic that share my interests.
The two cultures do seem to juxtapose somewhat, there's nothing more amusing
that to watch a bunch of goths all dressed in victorian finery, swing
dancing... But it works for Greggo and I. Occasionally I shock the goth
friends by showing up somewhere in a bright pink cocktail dress, and
sometimes I show up at jazz events (such as the Squirrel Nut Zippers show)
all "gothed" up.
There are trendy poseur folks that would say that I'm not "goth" enough, or
not "lounge" (??) enough... They can kiss my ass... The combination is fun,
and unexpected. And it keeps people on their toes, that's for certain.
Miss Shirley
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Shut up and swing, baby!
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Greg Clow <sta...@interlog.com> wrote:
>CARS YES <car...@aol.com> wrote:
>: Just heard the new Lounge A Palooza CD. Bitch'n! Check it out!
(snipped for brevity)
>The whole concept seemed a little muddled to me as well.
>All of this makes me wonder if the album's claim of "taking lounge to its
>illogical conclusion" might not be a truism. I mean, yeah, I still dig
>the swingin' sounds, the swank drinks, etc., but I just get the feeling
>that the whole "cocktail nation" thing is pretty much played out. Maybe
>it's a good thing... the pseudo-hipsters will unload their pseudo-hip duds
>and lounge CDs and hop on the next "cool" train through town, leaving
>those of us who actually *enjoy* the music and such to retreat back to our
>rec rooms to party with a little more privacy. Anyone else have opinions
>on this?
>Greg
greggo:
i agree...you know that when eaton's and the bay FINALLY
have "martini lounge" areas, it's time for a
re-think...i think that the people who have seriously
enjoyed the " renaissance " of lounge will still
groove to it in their dens...while, as you said, the
hipsters will already be on to the "next big thing"..
c ya,
dave r.
(here's hoping that we can expect a little
arthur lyman et all at the xmas open house ???)