Where do malayalee's come from?
Noble Thomas
keralites) were descended from africans who sailed over and from the
northern hindus through interracial marriages. He told me this would
account for the dark skinned keralites.
Is there any truth to this statement?
R2...@vm1.cc.uakron.edu
the name wrong) that keralites descended from the Abyssinian race. He claims
that to be the reason for dark skin, prominent lips, curly hair etc.
Gokul.
S. Rajeev - rajeev@travancore
I don't think anybody has an absolute and final explanation. So here's
my theory:
All Indians in general, northern or southern, are derived from the
aboriginal inhabitants of the subcontinent. These are the Australoid
tribals, such as the Veddas, Irulas etc. who still inhabit the forests
of the Western Ghats. They are similar to the Aborigines of Australia.
Australoids are dark skinned with straight hair and high noses. The
physical resemblance between Aborigines and Indians is often striking.
There is little reason to believe Negroids were ever present in large
numbers in the Indian gene pool. Dark skin is an evolutionary tactic
that all tropical people, including Australoids and Negroids, developed
to fend off the sun.
Later settlers included brachycephaloid (long-headed, I think) Semitic
peoples from North Africa, in one theory--possibly Dravidians.
India and Africa were connected physically quite a long time ago,
before the origins of humans. India split off from East Africa and has
been drifting northwards ever since, effectively ramming into Asia and
creating the growing Himalayan ranges.
---
S. Rajeev
Sunit Gala
[stuff about "the origin of desis" deleted]
based on recent paleolinguistic studies (in addition to the usual
archaelogical stuff) attempting to discover the geogrphical roots of
proto-indo-european (PIE) language, current theory is that PIE
originated in the southern russian steppes from where it was
exported eastwards and westwards. this is supposed to have happened
sometime between 5000-3000BC (pretty accurate, huh? :o). the thesis
is that all this was possible because horses were first domesticated
in that region, which was because domesticable horses were abundantly
available only in that region (i know i'm being real sketchy -- look
at the 'the third chimpanzee' by jared diamond). anyways, the long
and short is that while those fellows may have shown up and replaced
original inhabitants (if any), the fact is that the indian gene pool
is one of the most diverse owing to our ancient trade and cultural
contacts with african and other eurasian peoples.
>There is little reason to believe Negroids were ever present in large
>numbers in the Indian gene pool. Dark skin is an evolutionary tactic
>that all tropical people, including Australoids and Negroids, developed
>to fend off the sun.
actually, there's a growing body of evidence that the sun really
ain't got nuthin' to do with skin color. consider the the aborigines
in temperate australia, tasmania, adn the maoris in NZ. also,
consider the "fair" skinned peoples found in new guinea, parts of
melanesia/poolynesia, etc. new guinea even has brown people with
blond hair!
>India and Africa were connected physically quite a long time ago,
>before the origins of humans. India split off from East Africa and has
>been drifting northwards ever since, effectively ramming into Asia and
>creating the growing Himalayan ranges.
what's the connection between this and the origins of desis if india
split off from east "pangae" before humans hit the scene?
cheers,
sunit.
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S. Rajeev - rajeev@travancore
particularly curly hair. In fact, they look quite a lot like Indians. So there might
be some truth to this. In any case, their food is remarkably like Indian food,
esp. their bread injera, which looks and feels like a cold thick dosa. And their
"curries" are a lot like Indians' too.
---
S. Rajeev
Nirav Shah
and what was her answer?
Well, here is what I heard.
1) What adventure would you carry out if you won a big sum of money
in a competition?
A: You know, I love children! (All contenstants said that!)
I would spend all my money on welfare of children all around the world,
regardless of their nationality, background etc. etc.
(That is if she gets any time off from modeling and posing for the
cover of People magazine!)
I think spending time with these children would be an adventure in itself.
(Yeah right, like she really means that!)
Final Question:
What do you think is the essense of a woman?
A: (She almost choked here, but ended up giving a pretty good answer)
I think the fact that a woman has been given a gift from the god of being
a mother (etc. etc. and some other bull shit that the judges loved)
Anyway, she did pretty well. I think she can make a good politician one day.
She says exactly what the people and the judges want to hear even though she
may not believe a word she is saying.
- Nirav Shah
Sohan C. Ramakrishna-Pillai
malayalee's co.. S. rajeev@travancore@tra (1069)
> Ethiopians usually have long thin faces, not particulary large lips, and not
> particularly curly hair. In fact, they look quite a lot like Indians. So
> there might
> be some truth to this. In any case, their food is remarkably like Indian food,
> esp. their bread injera, which looks and feels like a cold thick dosa.
> And their
> "curries" are a lot like Indians' too.
> ---
> S. Rajeev
Aaah! - Ethiopian food! Got my salivary glands flowing, nay, pumping,
with memories of an "injera and stew" I had in an Ethiopian restaurant
in Boston - very, very Malayaleeish, thought it was like a cross between
our "vellayapam" and "dosa", and the stew could very well have been
cooked by my mom back in Kerala!
As far as ethnic/racial origin is concerned, interestingly enough, from
external visual appearance, at least to me, many of the people in
Saudi/Ethiopia/Somalia etc. look much like many Indians, and Malayalees
especially. During the recent wide exposure of Somalia on TV, it looked
very much to me like *many* of the people I could see on the streets of
Somalia would very easily blend into a street in Kerala and not be
considered anything other than a native. However, given that Kerala's
history includes millenia of trade exchanges across the Arabian Sea with
these nations, one may not have to go back to a migration in antiquity
to explain this resemblance - both cuisine and appearance. As Rajeev
said, there is a striking physical resemblance of many Indians with the
Australoid aborigines of Australia - no real idea of their cuisine, and
given the prevalence of this "Australoidness" in India, the question of
origin would seem better directed along those lines - although there may
be a link between Negroids and Australoids as well.
While "direct descent" from the Abyssinian race of the "original
Malayali race" of antiquity may well be possible or even likely, given
the wide variety of ethnicities which contribute to your "generic
Malayalee" of today as well as the lack of knowledge and difficulty of
dating or clearly knowing the direction of gene flow etc., I suspect
that Ash's "claim" of Abyssinian descent should be classified as an
interesting speculation and no more.
Re: curly hair, I remember reading about "negrito/negroid" tribes extant
in the hilly areas of Malabar as late as early this century in some
British book or something (anybody have a reference handy or know
more?). Apparently, the "pure" strains of these tribes have become
extinct. Yes, this is only a miniscule component in either Kerala's or
India's huge gene pool. Nevertheless, curly hair is found to a good
extent in Kerala, sometimes even "semi-frizzy" looking, although not to
the short and frizzy level you see in Africa.
___
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Office: UCC 181 Phone: x6406 [(412)268-6406]
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Sumitro Samaddar
>1) What adventure would you carry out if you won a big sum of money
> in a competition?
>A: You know, I love children! (All contenstants said that!)
> I would spend all my money on welfare of children all around the world,
The money won in THIS competition doesn't count :-)
- sumitro
Kumar Kumarappan
: <stuff deleted>
: Later settlers included brachycephaloid (long-headed, I think) Semitic
: peoples from North Africa, in one theory--possibly Dravidians.
Granted, the diversity of the gene pool ! Yet, I would have expected
them to be predominantly Dravidian like their other South Indian cousins.
True or Myth ?
--Kumar--
Sunit Gala
[stuff deleted]
>there is a striking physical resemblance of many Indians with the
>Australoid aborigines of Australia - no real idea of their cuisine, and
>given the prevalence of this "Australoidness" in India, the question of
>origin would seem better directed along those lines - although there may
>be a link between Negroids and Australoids as well.
current theory is that the "first" human originated in africa and
migrated to the near east about a million years ago. from the near
east, humans slowly populated most of southern eurasia. based on
carbon dating techniques, it is speculated (or established, depending
on who you're talking to) that humans reached australia about
50,000 years ago. the route taken is supposed to be via southeast
asia: the obvious point of departure from the mainland being the
southern tip of the malay pensinsula. from here into the indonesian
archipelago, new guinea, australia.
you may then ask why there is little resemblance between malaysians
and malayalees today. i don't know the answer but here's my 2 naya
paisa worth speculation. southeast asia had mostly east asian and
mongoloid influence over the past 5,000 - 10,000 years. thus their
gene pool was hybridized. on the other hand, there was no such
influence in southeast india -- the malayalee gene pool was hybridized
from other sources, presumably, 'aryan/dravidian/caucasian' in nature.
>Re: curly hair, I remember reading about "negrito/negroid" tribes extant
>in the hilly areas of Malabar as late as early this century in some
>British book or something (anybody have a reference handy or know
>more?). Apparently, the "pure" strains of these tribes have become
>extinct. Yes, this is only a miniscule component in either Kerala's or
>India's huge gene pool. Nevertheless, curly hair is found to a good
>extent in Kerala, sometimes even "semi-frizzy" looking, although not to
>the short and frizzy level you see in Africa.
anybody have more information on this?
here's an interesting fact about new guinea: locked on an island the
size of texas, there are about 1000 different languages which not
only bear no resemblance to one another, but bear no resemblance to
any other known language groups. language changes every 10-50 miles
in new guinea. and we thought india was diverse. :o)
later,
S. Rajeev - rajeev@travancore
from the sun; thus the need for melanin in the skin even if Australia
is in the temperate zone.
Maoris are Polynesians, who are in general light brown skinned. Polynesians
spread out over the Pacific in relatively recent times, and they are tropical
islanders to begin with; hence their brown skins, I would argue. I don't
know about the New Guineans: there are certainly Australoids there among
the Papuans; I guess you mean the Timorese--I have no idea of their
origins.
As Australia and Indonesia were connected by a land bridge over which
humans clearly have migrated, (similar to the one between Alaska
and Siberia), perhaps there was one over which humans migrated
from Africa to peninsular India. Hence the possible relevance of the Gondwana
hypothesis to the origins of Indians.
---
S. Rajeev
In article 2...@nash.uucp, su...@unisql.uucp (Sunit Gala) writes:
[stuff deleted for brevity]
Amitabha Lahiri
(raj...@travancore.Eng.Sun.COM) wrote in an interesting post:
> of the Western Ghats. They are similar to the Aborigines of Australia.
> Australoids are dark skinned with straight hair and high noses. The
> physical resemblance between Aborigines and Indians is often striking.
The region between Andaman and Australia has been an active volcanic zone
in the recent geological past (i.e. last several million years). Various
islands have come up and submerged during that time. In all likelihood
settlers hopped along from island to island from the Indian subcontinent to
Australasia. Note that there was no proper land bridge between Indonesia
and Australia around this time, which is why we have a low count of
marsupials in South East Asia and no predatory mammal in Australia.
> Later settlers included brachycephaloid (long-headed, I think) Semitic
Short- or broad-headed, with cephalic index more than 80.
Amitabha
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No one else is responsible for what I say and vice versa.
Devakumar Sreevijayan
Sohan C. Ramakrishna-Pillai <soh...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
>As far as ethnic/racial origin is concerned, interestingly enough, from
>external visual appearance, at least to me, many of the people in
>Saudi/Ethiopia/Somalia etc. look much like many Indians, and Malayalees
>especially. During the recent wide exposure of Somalia on TV, it looked
>very much to me like *many* of the people I could see on the streets of
>Somalia would very easily blend into a street in Kerala and not be
>considered anything other than a native. However, given that Kerala's
>history includes millenia of trade exchanges across the Arabian Sea with
>these nations, one may not have to go back to a migration in antiquity
>to explain this resemblance - both cuisine and appearance.
A good book reference and a nice read is Amitav Ghosh's latest
work "In an Antique Land" where he nicely weaves the personal and
the historic, in the geographical context of Egypt and India.
There is a lot of interesting information about trade between the West
coast of India (primarily Malabar) and the Middle East and North Africa,
before the advent of the Europeans. Naturally, there was a lot of ethnic
mixing and this happened on either side. Ghosh traces the life of a Jewish
trader from North Africa named Abraham ben Yiju as he moves to Malabar
and back in the 13th (or 14th) century across a period of some 20 years.
Ben Yiju took a wife while in the Mangalore/Malabar area, most probably
a Nair woman, and his daughter born of that 'marriage' goes back with him
and finally settles down in Cairo as the wife of her cousin, a rabbinical
judge from Sicily. So it is quite possible that some Malayali today from
the Cannanore area has Jewish relatives in Cairo.
I have noticed some vaguely Mongoloid features in some people I know
from Cannanore. There was a lot of trade with the Chinese in those
days ---think of all the words in Malayalam that begin with 'cheena'---
and it wouldn't surprise me if some of those traders got cosy with the
local women.
>Re: curly hair, I remember reading about "negrito/negroid" tribes extant
>in the hilly areas of Malabar as late as early this century in some
>British book or something (anybody have a reference handy or know
>more?).
Some standard references are William Logan's "Malabar Manual", and the
travel and survey accounts of Francis Buchanan and Hamilton. Hamilton
describes, almost first hand, the 'Mamankam' festival of 1695 where the
Samoothiri (Zamorin) of Calicut was very nearly assassinated by the
'ChavEr Pada' suicide squads. Logan's Manual also mentions the chief Nair
'tharavAds' (clans) of Valluvanad who sent these highly trained warriors
to redeem the honour of their king, the Valluva-kOnathiri, the Raja of
Valluvanad. Some of these families are still around in Valluvanad, though
there is almost no trace of their martial past. My mother described how in
her childhood, when she used to go to her aunt's house to learn Kathakali,
she would peek surreptitiously into the 'kaLari', the martial arts chamber
(women were forbidden to as much as look inside a kaLari, much less enter one),
where the old weapons of war were still kept and worshipped with Puja. The
house---a very interesting piece of Kerala architecture it apparently was---
fell into disrepair and was later sold. With it went the kaLari and all
traces of a martial past, studded with the tales of people like Chandroth
Panikkar and his nephew Chandu, the hero of 1695, the one who was cut down
right in front of the Zamorin, who had fortuitously survived a slash of
Chandu's sword which glanced off a hanging brass lamp. Their martial prowess
was truly amazing considering that the Zamorin was protected at these festivals
by almost 35,000 of his troops. Logan's Manual lists the number of warriors
who were sent from each province to the festival to protect the Zamorin
and also in a gesture of fealty to his overlordship. The manual, quoting
the records kept at the Zamorin's palace, also mentions the number of
'ChavEr' killed on each day (10-15 on a day) and from which families
they were.
If I get time, I will post an excerpt from Logan's Manual on the Mamankam
festivals, the last of which was held in 1743. Ironically, the present
Raja of Valluvanad lives bang in the middle of Zamorin territory, in
Meenchanda in Calicut, an old, forgetful man, stooped with the burden of
age as much as history, and who would rather not be reminded of either.
Dev
Praveen K Nukala
don t u know Malayalees come from Kerala.....
now don'd asg me where izz Kerala......ogay
zee u
Jagadish Iyer
>This old chestnut again! Your friend is extrapolating wildly, although
>I don't think anybody has an absolute and final explanation. So here's
>my theory:
>All Indians in general, northern or southern, are derived from the
>aboriginal inhabitants of the subcontinent. These are the Australoid
>tribals, such as the Veddas, Irulas etc. who still inhabit the forests
>of the Western Ghats. They are similar to the Aborigines of Australia.
>Australoids are dark skinned with straight hair and high noses. The
>physical resemblance between Aborigines and Indians is often striking.
>There is little reason to believe Negroids were ever present in large
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I agree with you mostly. But this is not true. I had been to Parambikulam, a
forest reseve in kerala as a part of a nature camp organized by Forest
Department and we came across some adivasis. Some of them were from Negroid
race. But Adivasis are not considered immigrants from anywhere though.
>numbers in the Indian gene pool. Dark skin is an evolutionary tactic
>that all tropical people, including Australoids and Negroids, developed
>to fend off the sun.
>Later settlers included brachycephaloid (long-headed, I think) Semitic
>peoples from North Africa, in one theory--possibly Dravidians.
>India and Africa were connected physically quite a long time ago,
>before the origins of humans. India split off from East Africa and has
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There must have been a time when all the land masses were together, but Indian
subcontinent is not from Africa. By continental drift it is from Antartica!
>been drifting northwards ever since, effectively ramming into Asia and
>creating the growing Himalayan ranges.
>---
>S. Rajeev Is there any truth to this statement?
Jagadish
Jagadish Iyer
The information I got from the camp in Parambikulam was similar and also
I was able to see some of the adivasis. Therefore I believe that is accurate.
Ganesh Vaidee
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Prem!
|> |> > |> Where do malayalee's come from?
The stork brings them, just like everybody else. :-)
Prem!
Sreeram T. Veeraraghavan
>
>In article <2s2hrn$j...@huey.cc.utexas.edu>, <devk...@huey.cc.utexas.edu>
>writes:
>
>> Some standard references are William Logan's "Malabar Manual", and the
>> travel and survey accounts of Francis Buchanan and Hamilton. Hamilton
>> describes, almost first hand, the 'Mamankam' festival of 1695 where the
>>
>>
>
>Where can I find these two books? Do you think I can get it from some place in
>kerala? I am visiting Kerala in July. Would like to lay my hands on these
>books
>
>Vinod
Come come Vinod, I am not sure if you should take all that trouble to
find out the answer to that question. I think the apt book would be
Charles Darwin's . But, could you not figure it out from the tone
and type of the discussion ???? ( simian )
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====================>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<=================
GBB
vi...@ariel.tamu.edu
> Some standard references are William Logan's "Malabar Manual", and the
> travel and survey accounts of Francis Buchanan and Hamilton. Hamilton
> describes, almost first hand, the 'Mamankam' festival of 1695 where the
>
>
Sreeram T. Veeraraghavan
Wrong ! Malayalees come from Kerala ! :^)
Of course, they evolved from monkeys and astralopithecus. That they
evolved from monkeys is evident from the simian discussions about
where they come from on the ack that we have been seeing lately !! :^)
It is a nice cool summer in Berkeley and Flames are Welcome ! :^)
GBB
Devakumar Sreevijayan
>
>Where can I find these two books? Do you think I can get it from some
>place in kerala? I am visiting Kerala in July. Would like to lay my
>hands on these books
Logan's 'Malabar Manual' is published (reprinted in 1981) by
Charithram Publications, Trivandrum 695 010. Earlier editions
were printed by St. Francis de Sales Press, Broadway, Ernakulam.
It is my conjecture that this book (it is in 2 volumes, the first
of which has 816 pages! and cost Rs. 100/- in 1981) is a prescribed
text book for an M.A in Kerala History so it should be available
at most decent bookshops in Kerala.
I don't have a reference for the works of Buchanan and Hamilton
handy, but I have skimmed through Buchanan's book and as I recall,
it was printed in India. It is titled 'A Journey from Madras through
Mysore, Canara and Malabar', Vols. I, II and III. London 1803. The
Indian publication is, of course, recent. I haven't actually come
across Hamilton's book, though it is very widely quoted.
The works of these Englishmen are not pleasant travelogues by
any means; they are economic surveys of the land, and the cultural
aspects are mentioned only in so far as how best the English could
extract revenue from these people without offending their sensibilities
unnecessarily. One has to read the accounts of Buchanan to appreciate
the thoroughness with which such a revenue assessment was carried
out.
It is a very curious aspect of Indian history that almost all
textual sources for its study are the accounts of foreign
travellers, from Megasthenes to Englishmen like Bill Logan.
Two other writers who might be interesting to read in the
context of Kerala are Ibn Battuta and Sir Richard Burton.
'The Travels of Ibn Battuta' was published recently in English
translation, and Burton has an account of his travels into
Southern India ('Blue Hills' or 'Nilgiris' figure in the title).
The works of Indian historians that may be of interest are
those of K.P. Padmanabha Menon, K.M. Panikkar, etc. There are
several references for Kerala History in Malayalam, chief among
them being the works of Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai and A. Sreedhara
Menon.
Dr. P.C. Alexander has written a book that I have a lot of
interest in, though I haven't been able to locate it yet.
If anyone has the book or can get it for me I will be most
grateful. The title is 'Buddhism in Kerala', Annamalainagar,
1949.
Dev
Nunda Rao
Lusiads by Camoens. The Lusiads is the national epic of Portugal celebrating
the ten-month voyage of Vasco da Gama to India. Camoens (c 1524-80)
incidentally was related to Vasco da Gama. Three of the ten cantos (chapters)
is on Kerala and describes the condition in the 15th century.
While Kerala gets scant mention in Indian history, Portuguese history has
several sections on Kerala.
I recall seeing the Lusiads in Penguin Classics series.
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Prem!
|> pr...@prem.lbl.gov (Prem!) writes:
|>
|> > someone asked:
|> > |> |> > |> Where do malayalee's come from?
|> >
|> > The stork brings them, just like everybody else. :-)
|> > Prem!
|>
|> Wrong ! Malayalees come from Kerala ! :^)
Are you sure? I thought Malayalees came from Malaya. :->
Prem!
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== I was going to be a cynic, but then I figured, "what's the point?". ==
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Prem!
|> pr...@prem.lbl.gov (Prem!) writes:
|>
|> > > someone asked:
|> >
|> > The stork brings them, just like everybody else. :-)
|> > Prem!
|>
|> Wrong ! Malayalees come from Kerala ! :^)
|> Of course, they evolved from monkeys and astralopithecus.
"astralopithecus"?
You mean they just sorta came down from the sky? :-)
Prem!
Sreeram T. Veeraraghavan
>sre...@nature.Berkeley.EDU (Sreeram T. Veeraraghavan) writes:
>|>
>|> > > someone asked:
>|> >|> |> > |> Where do malayalee's come from?
>|> >
>|> > The stork brings them, just like everybody else. :-)
>|>
>|> Wrong ! Malayalees come from Kerala ! :^)
>|> Of course, they evolved from monkeys and astralopithecus.
> ^^^^^^
> "astralopithecus"?
> You mean they just sorta came down from the sky? :-)
>
>
Oops ! You should know better since you seem to belong to that life
form !!! You do not seem to have yet advanced into the simian life form.
regards
GBB
Moral of the story : asane shavaram cheyalle !!!!!
Sreeram T. Veeraraghavan
>sre...@nature.Berkeley.EDU (Sreeram T. Veeraraghavan) writes:
>|>
>|> > someone asked:
>|> > |> |> > |> Where do malayalee's come from?
>|> >
>|> > The stork brings them, just like everybody else. :-)
>|>
>|> Wrong ! Malayalees come from Kerala ! :^)
>|> GBB
>
> Are you sure? I thought Malayalees came from Malaya. :->
>
> ===========================================================================
> == I was going to be a cynic, but then I figured, "what's the point?". ==
> ===========================================================================
>
You could be right Prema! Maybe some like you do come from Malaya. And
may be they were chinese in origin and they added a Lee to it to make it
Malaya + Lee = Malayalee
Make sense Ms. Chinku Prema ????
Hey, incidentally, a malayasian friend of mine here who read this says
' prema ' in Malaya means a nitwit! What a coincidence , is it not ???
regards
GBB
Prem!
|> pr...@prema.lbl.gov (Prem!) writes:
|> >sre...@nature.Berkeley.EDU (Sreeram T. Veeraraghavan) writes:
|> >|> pr...@prema.lbl.gov (Prem!) writes:
|> >|> > > someone asked:
|> >|> >|> |> > |> Where do malayalee's come from?
|> >|> >
|> >|> > The stork brings them, just like everybody else. :-)
|> >|> > Prema!
|> >|>
|> >|> Wrong ! Malayalees come from Kerala ! :^)
|> >|> Of course, they evolved from monkeys and astralopithecus.
|> > ^^^^^^
|> > "astralopithecus"?
|> > You mean they just sorta came down from the sky? :-)
|> > Prema!
|>
|> You do not seem to have yet advanced into the simian life form. regards
|> GBB
Indeed, for instance, I lack the creative skill of changing my
signature from "Prem!" to "Prema!"... In fact, I am so primitive
that I do not even find anything particularly witty about such an
act... :-)
Prem!
Prem!
|> pr...@prem.lbl.gov (Prem!) writes:
|> >sre...@nature.Berkeley.EDU (Sreeram T. Veeraraghavan) writes:
|> >|>
|> >|> Wrong ! Malayalees come from Kerala ! :^)
|> >|> GBB
|> >
|> > Are you sure? I thought Malayalees came from Malaya. :->
|> > Prema!
|>
|> Hey, incidentally, a malayasian friend of mine here who read this says
|> 'prema' in Malaya means a nitwit! What a coincidence , is it not ???
|> regards
|> GBB
Indeed... perhaps this explains your preoccupation with changing my
signature to Prema...
Prem!
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Sreeram T. Veeraraghavan
>sre...@nature.Berkeley.EDU (Sreeram T. Veeraraghavan) writes:
>|> pr...@prema.lbl.gov (Prem!) writes:
>|> >|> > The stork brings them, just like everybody else. >|>
>|> Oops! You should know better since you seem to belong to that life form!!!
>|> You do not seem to have yet advanced into the simian life form. regards
>|> GBB
>
> Indeed, for instance, I lack the creative skill of changing my
> signature from "Prem!" to "Prema!"... In fact, I am so primitive
> that I do not even find anything particularly witty about such an
> act... :-)
>
> Prema!
>
Oh....... so you are so primitive eh..... !
Maybe the storks changed your name from Prema to Prem !!!!
Howzzat ????
GBB
GBB