CONCEPT: "negative intelligence"

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Jorn Barger

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May 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/22/96
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Wasn't it "Annie Hall" that turned the phrase 'negative space' into
a catchphrase/punchline?

I actually heard it used seriously the other night, in a show about
cinematography... and it occurs to me that it could be morphed into
a concept called "negative intelligence" that refers to *the quality
that prevails when intelligence is absent*.

And what I notice on netnews is that negative intelligence rules
almost everywhere-- newsgroups are great sucking black-holes of
negative intelligence, where the greatest bigots have the loudest
voices, and the greatest say...

The way people get smarter, generally, is by looking at multiple
points of view, and letting these pov's 'debate among themselves' in
the most even-handed manner possible. But in newsgroups, people who
try to lay things out evenhandedly get massively squelched by fucking
idiots...


just my opinion ;^/


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YoYo

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May 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/22/96
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In article <4nvikl$i...@Venus.mcs.com>, Jorn Barger <jo...@MCS.COM> wrote:

>Wasn't it "Annie Hall" that turned the phrase 'negative space' into
>a catchphrase/punchline?

I thought it was "negative capability".


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Jorn Barger

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May 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/24/96
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In article <4o09mq$k...@bermuda.io.com>, YoYo <yo...@io.com> wrote:
>In article <4nvikl$i...@Venus.mcs.com>, Jorn Barger <jo...@MCS.COM> wrote:
>
>>Wasn't it "Annie Hall" that turned the phrase 'negative space' into
>>a catchphrase/punchline?
>
>I thought it was "negative capability".

Happily, this is 1996, and I can go type this in to Altavista,
which confirms you're right... though the movie was Manhattan.

Going back to my 'negative intelligence' argument, I think this
concept may be related to the concept of a Trickster god, like
Loki... and to Murphy's Law.


j

Patrick Foley

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May 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/26/96
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In article <4o09mq$k...@bermuda.io.com>, yo...@io.com (YoYo) wrote:

; In article <4nvikl$i...@Venus.mcs.com>, Jorn Barger <jo...@MCS.COM> wrote:
;
; >Wasn't it "Annie Hall" that turned the phrase 'negative space' into
; >a catchphrase/punchline?
;
; I thought it was "negative capability".

The phrase "negative capability" was coined by John Keats, so far as I know,
in a letter to his brothers, George & Tom, from December of 1817:

"... at once it struck me, what quality went to form a Man of Achievement
especially in Literature & which Shakespeare posessed so enormously -- I
mean _Negative Capability_, that is when a man is capable of being in
uncertainties, Mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after
fact & reason --"

and he goes on to say Coleridge lacked it. (Quote should make clear that
Annie was misusing the phrase, as usual, because she was a cluck.)

Pat

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Cameron Laird

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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In article <4o4b4j$c...@Venus.mcs.com>, Jorn Barger <jo...@MCS.COM> wrote:

>In article <4o09mq$k...@bermuda.io.com>, YoYo <yo...@io.com> wrote:
>>In article <4nvikl$i...@Venus.mcs.com>, Jorn Barger <jo...@MCS.COM> wrote:
>>
>>>Wasn't it "Annie Hall" that turned the phrase 'negative space' into
>>>a catchphrase/punchline?
>>
>>I thought it was "negative capability".
>
>Happily, this is 1996, and I can go type this in to Altavista,
>which confirms you're right... though the movie was Manhattan.
.
.
.
I thought it was John Keats <URL:http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/
~maldoror/rcmbtx17.html> (for example), not Diane Keaton.
You're quite right; AltaVista is a blessing.
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Henry Churchyard

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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In article <4okg6k$7...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>,
Cameron Laird <cla...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> wrote:

>You're quite right; AltaVista is a blessing.

The other day I heard, late at night on the local talk radio station,
an advertisement for Altavista! Is this a widesperead phenomenon, or
just confined to cities like Austin Texas, where "Unix Today" has been
sold in the local supermarkets?

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Jael McHenry

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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Henry Churchyard (chur...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) wrote:

: The other day I heard, late at night on the local talk radio station,


: an advertisement for Altavista! Is this a widesperead phenomenon, or
: just confined to cities like Austin Texas, where "Unix Today" has been
: sold in the local supermarkets?

Is Boston a "city like Austin Texas"? I often hear radio ads for the
Monster Board (a job search site) and boston.com. No search engine ads
yet, however.

And of course there are those stupid AOL commercials on TV...

Jael

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Alison Dellenbaugh

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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Henry Churchyard wrote:

> The other day I heard, late at night on the local talk radio station,
> an advertisement for Altavista! Is this a widesperead phenomenon, or
> just confined to cities like Austin Texas, where "Unix Today" has been
> sold in the local supermarkets?

In fact, I've seen "SCO World" magazine at an Austin supermarket--I did
a double-take, and thought "What kind of city is this?!"

--Alison D.,
another Austinite

Stewart Higgenbottom

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Jun 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/1/96
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"Alison Dellenbaugh, on the date of Fri, 31 May 1996, you were picked up
for writing messages in alt.culture.internet. Do you understand the
charges against you?"

Austin rules. Any city where you can pick up Wired in Whole Foods is OK
by me.

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woo...@centuryinter.net

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Jun 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/3/96
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> Henry Churchyard wrote:
>
> > The other day I heard, late at night on the local talk radio station,
> > an advertisement for Altavista! Is this a widesperead phenomenon, or
> > just confined to cities like Austin Texas, where "Unix Today" has been
> > sold in the local supermarkets?
>
> In fact, I've seen "SCO World" magazine at an Austin supermarket--I did
> a double-take, and thought "What kind of city is this?!"
>

> --Alison D.,
> another Austinite
Altavista is a small town in Virginia..84 miles south of Charlottesville.
George


Sharon T.

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Jun 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/5/96
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>>> The other day I heard, late at night on the local talk radio station,
>>> an advertisement for Altavista! Is this a widesperead phenomenon, or
>>> just confined to cities like Austin Texas, where "Unix Today" has been
>>> sold in the local supermarkets?
>>

I just heard an ad for it tonight on an a.m. talk radio station in Tuscaloosa,
Alabama. I'm not sure it was a local ad. I was listening to the Michael
Reagan show on my way home when I heard it.

Sharon T.
tho...@dbtech.net


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