Tagalog/Visayan help
Joekerr3
got me married in the first place ;) and my wife isn't very good at it
either since she's spent most of her life here in the states... so maybe we
could start a thread where the more skillful members could post words and
phrases for the rest of us... especially the ones who've only recently started
their own fil-am relationship.
TJH has often posted a url for his own visayan site is there one for tagalog???
joekerr3
Timothy Joseph Harvey
I'll be adding Tagalog and Ilonggo next month, but primarily for reference
of these languages to Bisaya. . . which remains the real focus of the
site.
At the Bisaya site, there's a reference to B&D Software. They produce
software in several Filipino languages, including Tagalog, and they also
have a newsletter that has many references to mainly Tagalog resources.
Also, at the bottom of the Bisaya homepage is a banner for Ken Ilio's
great Filipino resource site. It includes a language section with many
links to Tagalog resources.
This is one place to start. Again, the URL is:
Tim
Joekerr3 <joek...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
: I'm liguistically challenged in tagalog so to speak.. all I really know is what
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Joekerr3
>Newsgroups: alt.culture.fil-am.relationships
>References:
>of these languages to Bisaya. . . which remains the real focus of the
>site.
>
>At the Bisaya site, there's a reference to B&D Software. They produce
>software in several Filipino languages, including Tagalog, and they also
>have a newsletter that has many references to mainly Tagalog resources.
>
>Also, at the bottom of the Bisaya homepage is a banner for Ken Ilio's
>great Filipino resource site. It includes a language section with many
>links to Tagalog resources.
>
>This is one place to start. Again, the URL is:
>
>http://www.atoni.com/Bisaya
>
>Tim
>
>
>Joekerr3 <joek...@aol.comnospam> wrote:
>: I'm liguistically challenged in tagalog so to speak.
Thank you for the help.
joekerr3
VIDONG
Spanish...published in 1884. I am ordering it from an antique bookshop in
Scotland.
120pp. 107 bucks! Sheesh!
Timothy Joseph Harvey
leer, hablar y escribir un idioma cualquiera, adaptado al visaya, 2nd ed."
by Zueco de Sa Joaquin.
He wrote a couple of books on Bisaya using the Ollendorff method.
Any particular reason why you ordered this book?
BTW, pay a visit to my site and, from there, jump to the "Language Links"
site (I don't have the URL handy). The operator of the site (Jessie
Grace U. Rubrico) is a scholar of Bisaya, and she has a number of
interesting academic papers including an annotated list of Bisayan
dictionaries and related works from 1521 to present. She also offers
modules for the study of the language, which included an online tutorial,
for $125 or so. . . a very good deal considering what she provides and
her considerable expertise.
Tim
VIDONG <vid...@aol.com> wrote:
: I just did a book search on a Visayan Grammar book and found a book in
VIDONG
Thanks for the info. I have always studied languages on my own since I just
don't have the money to do it with a teacher, so, I have ordered the Grammar
book. It is the only one available that I knew of. And, yes, it is exactly
that very book that you have mentioned.
Once I have the Grammar down pat, I will just need the books in Visaya to read
and then just go there and practice. It seems much easier than Tagalog but the
lack of instructional materials is the problem.
Do you know anything about newspapers in Visaya? There are quite a few in Cebu
and Mindanao. Do you think we can subscribe to them from there to here?
Thank you again. I am going to look at the web site now.
Vidong
Timothy Joseph Harvey
a couple of things.
1. The 1884 book is a great collectors item and a reference for language
scholars, but a really poor choice for learning grammar for contemporary
use. . . as the language/grammar has steadily changed over the last 100+
years. BTW, do you read Spanish - the book is in that language.
You might consider checking out Xerxes Books. They have a copy of Wolff's
1968 "Beginning Cebuano" for $100 as well as copies of his 1971 Bisaya
Dictionary (for $250). These references are much more up-to-date.
2. There are papers in the Bisayan language, but may I suggest "Cebuano
Newspaper Reader: Easy to Intermediate Readings" by R. David Zorc. It's
published by Dunwoody Press, a press devoted to less widely used
languages, and they have a website for viewing and ordering their books.
This book has numerous articles from periodicals with English translations
and a glossary. I believe the cost is around $40.
Also, you could join SUGBU-L, a listserv in Cebuano only ran by Marites
Johns. Her and her husband run a good Pinoy website, and he was once
active in soc.culture.filipino some time ago. There is no charge for
subscription - it's like a News group, but posts arrive as email.
I'm sorry I don't have the URLs for these references handy but, you could
get them through a Yahoo search. Also, if you check my website in a
couple of days, I'll have the URLs/links there.
Glad to see someone else serious about learning the language.
Tim
VIDONG <vid...@aol.com> wrote:
: Dear Tim,