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WILLIAM PALMER

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Sep 20, 2002, 8:43:57 PM9/20/02
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Gaiawar: I think it is incredibly pathetic the way you have
decided to turn netstalker and use Google to track me around
the net and follow up my serious posts in topical groups, or
even in humor groups like alt.slack, with your sorry drivel.

You keep nattering to me about some ridiculous challenge
you supposedly made to me over there in alt.skunks. Of
couse, you are full of beans up to your ears. I have made
any number of postings to alt.skunks, and you rarely have
followed them up with a syllable of your own, let alone
posted some sort of absurd intellectual challenge. You're
crummy as hell, ya' damn lout. YOU STINK!

As far as I'm concerned, you are a fly weight when it comes
to both intellect and creative talent. About all I remember
from you are some tedius references to a book that--
apparently--you have adopted as your guide through
life. Well, let me give you clue: Nobody wants to
be "spiritually rescued" by an anonymous newsgroup
lamebrain of your pitiful ilk. Many people have books
of wisdom and/or religious volumes that have special
meaning in their lives--but only jackanapes like
Gaiawar keep referring to the obscure tomes of
obscure sects as if they have the answers for all
newsgroup posters! So, your annoying indulgance
in such obnoxious behavior gave me a negative
opinion of you right off the bat. Can it, ya'
hang fool wimp-ass. Blow it out your butt,
ya' gosh darn shithead.

Further, another sign that you are more than a few
cards short in your "creative deck," reveals itself
in the fact that you rarely if ever post any original
stand-alones or anything significant like that.
Instead, about all you do is add your trite, two-
line zingers to the posts of your betters. in order
to pester them for attention, Gaiawar.

Even so, Gaiawar, you are not the only fly-weight
intellect in these newsgroups, and your silliness would
not bother me had you not very recently turned
netstalker. It takes a heap o' gall, I must say,
for a nitwit like you to traipse into a serious
group (be it on the subject of art, goth culture,
russian culture, or other groups you know nothing
about, like alt.slack) where you have never paid Due
Numero Uno in terms of posting anything interesting,
and then simply add one of your pitiful stupidities to a
post of mine in order to get reader attention on the cheap.
You should be exhibited in a freak show as "Gaiawar, the
Braying Shitass."

From now on, Gaiawar, please keep your ignorant tripe
IN alt.skunks, keep it OUT OF alt.skunks and other
groups where your horseradish in no way belongs, and
please return to your senses and stop the netstalking.
Since I read alt.skunks regularly, if you have anything
original to say, I will see it. But if I continue to ignore
you, it will be because I find your feeble two-line drivel
spasms too insignificant for words. Basically, you are
just a crummy little newsgroup fake and I guess that is
all you are ever going to be. Sad.

alt.genius.bill-palmer
(Temporary office: rec.arts.prose)
wil...@ix.netcom.com

nenslo

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Sep 21, 2002, 2:47:56 AM9/21/02
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Now there's a switch. Bill Palmer asserting someone's inferiority.

WILLIAM PALMER

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Sep 21, 2002, 3:19:30 AM9/21/02
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> Hello, WILLIAM  PALMER.  You said:
>
> Aren't you the guy the Palmjob Paddle award is named for?
 
I don't keep track of things like that.   After all, I have over
120,000 Google GEMS right now  (for "Bill Palmer"; THIS
Bill Palmer).   There have been a couple of dozen newsgroups
named for me, although the only official one is alt.genius.bill-
palmer.   Futhermore, there have been upwards of one-hundred
so called Bill Palmer websites, including authorized ones,
satirical sites, and just plain rip-off sites.   So, anything
is possible, I suppose, although I must say the
"Palmjob Paddle" rings no bells.
 
 
alt.genius.bill-palmer
(Temporary office:  rec.arts.prose)
 

>
> --
> John Henry
>
www.lowgenius.com - dare to evolve
> The ultimate in vanity, exploiting their supremacy
> I can't believe the things you say, I can't believe the price
> we pay

Gaiawar

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Sep 21, 2002, 7:46:34 AM9/21/02
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nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote in message news:<3D8C161A...@yahooX.com>...

Bill Squid is a jelly blob that blows an ink cloud.

-Gaiawar

WILLIAM PALMER

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Sep 21, 2002, 2:41:29 PM9/21/02
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"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote in message
news:Xns92902B46AA7F0jo...@216.168.3.40...

> Hello, WILLIAM PALMER. You said:
>
> >
> > "John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns928FE2CDFA64Djo...@216.168.3.40...
> >> Hello, WILLIAM PALMER. You said:
> >>
> >> Aren't you the guy the Palmjob Paddle award is named for?
> >
> > I don't keep track of things like that. After all, I have over
> > 120,000 Google GEMS right now (for "Bill Palmer"; THIS
> > Bill Palmer). There have been a couple of dozen newsgroups
> > named for me, although the only official one is alt.genius.bill-
> > palmer. Futhermore, there have been upwards of one-hundred
> > so called Bill Palmer websites, including authorized ones,
> > satirical sites, and just plain rip-off sites. So, anything
> > is possible, I suppose, although I must say the
> > "Palmjob Paddle" rings no bells.
> >
> >
> > alt.genius.bill-palmer
> > (Temporary office: rec.arts.prose)
> > wil...@ix.netcom.com
>
> Posts in HTML: Check.

What are you blathering about there, Henry, you garden slug?
>
> Denies long and well-documented history of being usenet's personal
> fucktoy when he thinks he can get away with it: Check

Fiddlesticks. The record makes it very clear that I am the
undisputed World Champion of Flaming, the one, the only,
the Amazing Flame Giant. The wails of sore losers like
John Henry change nothing.
>
> Claims that the only "official" newsgroup with his name on it is
> "genius," even though ftp.isc.org lists several of them:

I said "official," didn't I? Once alt.genius.bill-palmer became
so immensely popular, about two-dozen other groups with
the name "Bill Palmer" got started. I almost never read
any of them, let alone posted to them. And, buddy, if
you have a newgroup with Bill Palmer in the name, but
you don't have Bill Palmer as a poster, all you have is
a shell that envy built for you..
>
> ncftp /pub/usenet/control/alt > ls *palmer*
> alt.bonehead.bill-palmer.Z alt.sex.masturor
ybation.bill-palmer.Z
> alt.stereo.embargo.bill-palmer.Z
> alt.genius.bill-palmer.Z alt.stupid-ass.bill-palmer.Z
> alt.genius.bill-palmer.moderated.Z

You left out a couple of dozen others. As to the lampoon names,
it's no big deal. I chalk it up to the price of net fame. Once you
get popular enough as a net writer, "they" (losers like John Henry)
start crawling out of the woodwork after you. Anyway, there is
only one official Bill Palmer newsgroup, alt.genius.bill-palmer.
And you can take that as coming straight from Bill Palmer!
>
> Check
>
> Takes 90 words to say "No" and isn't named John Henry: Check

Your problem is that you exist in world of words but have no
writing talent, so you are just another fish out of water floundering
around for attention. I did a bit of Google checking on you, and
it quickly became very clear that in all your years in Usenet, you
have NEVER written one notable stand-alone post. In other
words, while, in my role as a net writer, I wear all sorts of hats,
from that hat of the "kooky" entertainer, to the writer of genuine
works of literature such as FACTS IN THE CASE OF BILL
PALMER to the very recent "Yes, MARY KENNEDY, you try
to square things with the BIG boss!", you, by contrast, wear only
ONE hat, John Henry: the clown hat of the newsgroup bozo!
>
> Not only posts in HTML, but posts in horribly over-formatted HTML,
> thereby not only producing ugly, over-lengthy posts, but more than
> doubling the bandwidth necessary to carry it: Check.

What are you burbling about there, Henry?
>
> Lies about "keeping track." You have to keep track to sue people.

Nonsense. There is so much material floating around Usenet
by, and about, Bill Palmer, that it would be impossible to keep
track of it all. You get popular enough as a net writer, and
that's what happens. It's no big deal.

I might add that while Google shows around 117,000 GEMS
for "Bill Palmer," most of them refer to me or my original
stand-alone posts. By way of contrast, while Google shows
104,000 GEMS for "John Henry" many of them are not even
about you, in fact I would be surprised if you can even claim
even 50,000 GEMS. You are just an attention-seeking,
run of the mill flame group loudmouth. No depth of
personalilty at all.

> Check.
>
> SCREAMS his own name: Check

Only when adds to the amusement value of my posting.
>
> Considers a newsgroup his office: Check

So? A newsgroup IS my office.
>
> Someone gimme the paddle, looks like I got me a genyoowine spank.

Spank the Amazing Flame Giant? Ha, you couldn't even spank
the-funny-little-wilhelp-man! The wilhelp man would kick your
ignorant butt from alt.flame to alt.usenet.kooks, Henry. You are
just another attention starved loser trying to pester me for your
fifteen minutes of net fame.

copyright FLAME GIANT

On Wordscreens of the World


>
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> John Henry
> >> www.lowgenius.com - dare to evolve
> >> The ultimate in vanity, exploiting their supremacy
> >> I can't believe the things you say, I can't believe the price
> >> we pay

[...]


WILLIAM PALMER

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Sep 21, 2002, 3:42:02 PM9/21/02
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"Gaiawar" <gai...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:7a617afb.02092...@posting.google.com...

Laugh, you whinnying horse's ass, laugh. Your
snickering up your sleeve does nothing to change
your well-documented history of netstalking. It
only makes you look like a dishonest crumb-bum,
Gaiawar. Which in fact you are. STINKER!


the-funny-little-wilhelp-man
"Official Entertainer to the Net Kooks"
>
> -Gaiawar


John D Salt

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Sep 21, 2002, 3:44:19 PM9/21/02
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"WILLIAM PALMER" <willia...@prodigy.net> wrote in
news:t33j9.41$SF7.28...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com:

[Ineffably vast quantities of self-regarding tosh snipped]

> What are you blathering about there, Henry, you garden slug?

> What are you burbling about there, Henry?

Minnie Bannister does this better than you.

All the best,

John.

WILLIAM PALMER

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Sep 21, 2002, 6:14:04 PM9/21/02
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"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9290B4EFA522Djo...@216.168.3.40...

> Hello, WILLIAM PALMER. You said:
>
> > Laugh, you whinnying horse's ass, laugh. Your
> > snickering up your sleeve does nothing to change
> > your well-documented history of netstalking. It
> > only makes you look like a dishonest crumb-bum,
> > Gaiawar. Which in fact you are. STINKER!
>
> LMAO this is supposed to be a demonstration of your all-powerful flaming
> abilities?

Ha! Famous last words on your part. Yes, as a matter
of fact it is a demonstration. See, Henry, you have been
existing in a very limited part of Usenet, the flame cellar,
as it is sometimes dubbed, where the flame-war winner
is the one who calls the other "fuckhead" the most number
of times. Therefore, when you run into someone who
doesn't behave that way, you get confused. You are
confused and flailing NOW, as a matter of fact, because
you have no idea what you are dealing with.

copyright FLAME GIANT

On Wordscreens of the World


>
> Holy shit, no wonder you have kook awards named after you.

WILLIAM PALMER

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Sep 21, 2002, 7:10:27 PM9/21/02
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"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote in message
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Haven't read such a bundle of horsefeathers all week! Your
problem, Henry, is that you try to put me into the untalented
category that you and your usual flame opponents belong in.
Essentially, you have no talent. I would be very surprised to
learn that--in your entire Usenet career--you have written as
much as ONE notable stand-alone. You are just another crude
crap-hurler, and Usenet has enough of them already.

Your flame showed many signs of very confused thinking.
For instance, since you only found some of the bogus Bill
Palmer groups, you assume that is all there have been. That's
simply false. Anyone who knows Usenet can tell you there
is no one list of newsgroups that has every group which
has ever been created, including all the bogus alt.groups
where the creators did not follow the standard group
creation procedures. Of course, none of that really
matters anyway, since the only official Bill Palmer group
in Usenet is alt.genius.bill-palmer, Henry.

Further, I have no idea what false Bill Palmer you are
burbling about, but there is only one Bill Palmer who has
made any sort of mark as a Usenet writer. That's why
most of the 117,000 Google GEMS refer to me. Words
that clue the researcher in are Flame Giant, Twinkles
the alt.genius.dwarf, the-funny-little-wilhelp-man,
wil...@ix.netcom.com, and Stormbreeder,
Wordscreen Man, Word screen man,
Wordscreens of the World, etc. My feeling
is that the "Bill Palmer" you claim to know is a fake
and a phony, although I do not know that for a fact.

Actually, once we had a so-called "Bill Palmer" show
up in alt.genius.bill-palmer and claim that distinguished
forum was named after HIM, and that *I* was an
imposter! But he tripped himself up pretty fast by
getting carried away with his devious twaddle First,
he claimed to have worked for the Barnum Museum in
New York. After doing some research, I learned
that the Barnum Museum had burned up over 150
years ago. When I confronted him over that,
he claimed that I was talking about the OLD
Barnum Museum, and he had worked for the
NEW Barnum, the one they built after the
original burned. There was only one problem
with his story--the so-called "new" Barnum
Museum also burned over 100 years ago!
After that, the so-called Bill Palmer vanished
right off the net. Never found another trace
of him. Maybe he's the same "Bill Palmer" you
claim to know. Gulled! Guess you need a
counterfeit detector before reading Bill Palmer
posts.

Now, I am not suggesting that Bill Palmer is not
a common name, and that there are not many
perfectly legitimate "Bill Palmer"'s who have
websites. What I AM saying is that I am the
only net writer named Bill Palmer who happens
to be, in fact, the most famous writer in Usenet.
Some of my better known works are
FACTS IN THE CASE OF BILL PALMER,
"Uncanny Resemblance," MORE ELDRITCH
THAN FICTION! "If this be webtrance..."
"Refuge in Art," "The Warthogs of Helicon,"
"Honor," "Remembered: the Root Beer Stand
Riot," "Retard," "Short Bus Man,"
HUMAN BATTLEFIELD IN CYBER WAR?
"I'll slash you to ribbons," (cyberpunk poem),
HOW I STOLE THE BILL PALMER NAME!
"Gothic Whispers," (another famous poem) and
many other works, including the very recent,


"Yes, MARY KENNEDY, you try to square

things with the BIG boss!" and "I know who you
are." If you want to read these in Google, Henry,
you have to use some intelligence because some
of them have generated so much followup.
(For instance, FACTS IN THE CASE OF
BILL PALMER had about 14,000 GEMS
itself, last time I checked!) Anyway, if you
want to enjoy these in Google, make sure
you find the original articles at the top of all
those long threads, otherwise you are just
reading follow-ups, praise, flames, envious
assaults, plaudits, etc.

Your literal-minded idiocy in quoting all the
definititions for "office" made you look rather
like a posting baboon Henry. If you don't want to
get away from strict meanings, maybe you should
stay away from prominent Usenet literary people,
and stick with writing code of something. Basically,
if I tell you my office is upstairs in rec.arts.prose,
that's where it is. Can you prove otherwise?

As far as your reposting nonsense, big deal. I figure
I have made well-over 15,000 Usenet posts. You
want to repost all of them? Most people have
given up on such foolishness, since it is a known
fact that you can keyword almost ANYWORD
(except scientic terms) along with "Bill Palmer"
in the Google-nova and come up with something,
proving nothing. (The Google-nova, by the
way, is the part of Google that holds my
writing. It is even larger than the renowned
Deja-mountain.)

alt.genius.bill-palmer
(Temporary office headquarters: rec.arts.prose)
wil...@ix.netcom.com


[...]

> > > What are you blathering about there, Henry, you garden slug?
>

>The bill palmer I know says you're nuts and he has no official newsgroup.

Ha! Henry, you've been gulled by a fake. Sucker.

blackout

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"WILLIAM PALMER" wrote

> > > Laugh, you whinnying horse's ass, laugh. Your
> > > snickering up your sleeve does nothing to change
> > > your well-documented history of netstalking. It
> > > only makes you look like a dishonest crumb-bum,
> > > Gaiawar. Which in fact you are. STINKER!
> >
> > LMAO this is supposed to be a demonstration of your all-powerful
flaming
> > abilities?
>
> Ha! Famous last words on your part. Yes, as a matter
> of fact it is a demonstration. See, Henry, you have been
> existing in a very limited part of Usenet, the flame cellar,
> as it is sometimes dubbed, where the flame-war winner
> is the one who calls the other "fuckhead" the most number
> of times. Therefore, when you run into someone who
> doesn't behave that way, you get confused. You are
> confused and flailing NOW, as a matter of fact, because
> you have no idea what you are dealing with.

HA! YOU TELL THAT NIGGER WHAT TIME IT IS BILL! BILL PALMER IS THE *MAN*!
HE BAD! HE BE GIVIN' TEENAGED GIRLS LOTS OF LIQUORS AND RAPIN' THEM AND
THEN HE WRITE THE FUCK OUT THE STORY! HE SO FUCKIN' BAD HE NEVER EVEN
GOT ARRESTED FOR IT! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT SHIT? HOW YOU THINK BILL
PALMER GOTS TO BE THE MOTHERFUCKIN' BADDEST ASS NET WRITER IN THE
MOTHERFUCKING WORLD, FOOL? BILL PALMER WRITE YOU UPSIDE YO FOOL HEAD SO
MOTHERFUCKING HARD YOU GON WAKE UP WITH YOUR HEAD IN A MOTHERFUCKING
DITCH AND SHITS!

PROUD AND RIGHTEOUS BILL PALMER FAN IN THE HOUSE!

BOYEEE!


Joel K. 'Jay' Furr

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Sep 21, 2002, 11:38:50 PM9/21/02
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Okay, this has gotten out of hand.

Everyone, out of the pool. Go outside and start jumping up and down as hard
as you can, for as long as you can. We've got to counteract the Chinese
any way we can.

Buckler

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Sep 21, 2002, 11:59:22 PM9/21/02
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"Stinker"? "Crumb-bum"? Palmer apparently went to the Mayberry school
of flaming. He sounds like the "family-oriented" dub of The Breakfast
Club.

Buckler


"Only two things are infinite: the Universe and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the former."

-Albert Einstein

ROT13 my email address to reply.

WILLIAM PALMER

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"John Henry" <john...@lowgenius.com> wrote in message
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You are amusing, Henry. I haven't run into a literal-minded
mandrill like you in quite a while. Plainly, it has never dawned
on you that Usenet is a world of words, and in a world of
words, intelligent people expect to encounter the figurative
as well as the literal. I generally give my spankards comic
names, hmm...how does Henry Mandrill strike you? Has
a nice ring, doesn't it?

Of course I have an office in rec.arts.prose. As I said, it
is a temporary one, due to the vandalism to my office in
alt.genius.bill-palmer. What happened there was, a year
or so back some vindictive spankards furnished false
information to a number of ISP'S, claiming that
alt.genius.bill-palmer was moderated. It was not,
and never has been. But once that sort of false data
gets into the system, it is next to impossible to clear up.
People ask me the rather naive question of why I don't
call the ISP'S and explain. I have tried. When I phone,
all they do is go to their instructions and come back and
tell me that alt.genius.bill-palmer is supposed to be
MODERATED. Does anyone really think that
the fact someone calls and claims to be Bill Palmer
is going to change anything? Those employees
know who signs their checks, and it isn't Bill
Palmer. The whole thing is simply a very serious
case of Usenet vandalism, that's all. If it isn't a
crime, it should be.

So, anyway, I had to haul all my stuff over to
rec.arts.prose and set up my office there.
Right now I am upstairs in the r.a.p. group.
If you go to r.a.p., you will see the stairs toward
the back of the group and if you go up those stairs
my office is the first door to the right. Drop in
anytime, Henry. Also, we have rigged up a
sort of catwalk that I can use to cross over
from rec.arts.prose to the upstairs office of
alt.genius.bill-palmer, but I only use that office
for serious writing when I don't wish to be
disturbed, because .it is much harder to access
nowadays.

Well, let's see, what else do I need to set you
straight on? Who am I talking to here, oh, yes,
Henry Mandrill, who keeps calling me a
kook. Big deal. In the first place, anyone
who posts ideas regularly and defends them
will be called a kook. It's a Usenet badge of
honor. Furthermore, one of the many hats
I wear as a writer is the gigantic hat of
the-funny-lilttle-wilhelp-man, the Official
Entertainer to the Net Kooks (as the
Usenet Administrative Proclaimation reads).
That being the case, well, call me a kook.
See if I care. Like the old saying holds, "If
you can't stand the heat, don't go in the
kitchen." I have been known to hang
out in the alt.usenet.kooks "kitchen" quite
frequently. Seems like I've noticed YOU
hanging around a.u.k. too, Henry...hmm..
Important business there, no doubt...

You know who bothers me the most, though,
Henry? It is the broom-closet kooks, people
like John Henry Mandrill. You hang out in
a.u.k where you obviously belong, but you pose
as if you are only there to laugh at the kooks.
You are ashamed of your own kookiness.
Of course, since they know you are a broom
closet kook, they are laughing at you, but you
are too self-deluded to notice it. Far better to
be an honest kook than a sneaky, masturbating,
broom-closet kook like Henry Mandrill.

Well, I have tried to set you straight on a few
things, Henry, Old Mandrill . Somehow I get the
notion you are far too bull-headed to learn anything,
though. Toodle-oo...

Kevin S. Wilson

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Sep 22, 2002, 9:45:46 AM9/22/02
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On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:10:27 GMT, "WILLIAM PALMER"
<willia...@prodigy.net> wrote:

>there is only one Bill Palmer who has
>made any sort of mark as a Usenet writer.

That's true. And we'd appreciate it greatly, Palmjob, if you would
call a carpet cleaner and see about getting that mark removed.

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