Looking for the spelling and meaning of Cajun words
ne...@my-dejanews.com
I came across a couple of Cajun Christmas pieces that contain words that
I do not understand and was hoping someone could help me with them.
I put audio clips of the words at
http://bioweb.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~schnitz/cajun.html
Please email (jsch...@uiuc.edu) me with any help, as I can't access
this newsgroup directly.
Thanks,
Jim Schnitzer
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ne...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Hi There -
>
> I came across a couple of Cajun Christmas pieces that contain words that
> I do not understand and was hoping someone could help me with them.
>
> I put audio clips of the words at
>
> http://bioweb.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~schnitz/cajun.html
>
> Please email (jsch...@uiuc.edu) me with any help, as I can't access
> this newsgroup directly.
Ok, the following are the answers you may be looking for:
Cous-Cafe? = Pouce Café, This is a small cup of coffee. Literally it means an
inch of coffee.
Poule-Deau = Poule d'eau, In Rev. Daigle's dictionary, he says it is a Coot.
However, it literally is a water hen. I am not sure exaclty what kind of bird
it is refering to.
Grobec = Gros bec, gros-bec, This is a large bird. Daigle's dictionary lists
it as a Night Heron. I have heard it is actually an Iris. Either way, a
Gros-bec was some good eating i understand (though, you can't kill them
anymore). Gros bec literally means large beak.
Dos-gris = Dos-gris, This is a duck. I don't know the English equivilent
right off. But it refers to the grey back of the duck.
I don't know about Coup. Coup is a widely used word for various expressions
in French. (ie. Coup d'etate, coup d'oeil, coup de grâce, etc) Its meaning
is blow, lick, strike, hit, etc. I am sure it is just an expression to give
the idea that they were real tired.
Hope this helps.
Tim Huval
tah...@sprynet.com
Lafayette, La
cwa (Choupique)
flat meaning totally out , like out of air .... exhausted ....
take a baloon an push all its air out , it has no more life , wont float ,
wont bounce , wont move etc ....
it is flat pouped out .... totally exhausted .... no more life
laughing .... geesh i never realized how wierd this is to explain ....
Choupique
cwa (Choupique)
gizzard thou , gizzard is maybe 4 times the size of a chickens , you will
see them often aside the road in small ponds , swim with head constantly
bobbing forward and backwards ,
short fat bodies , population is fairly high cuz little ppl fool with em ,
which is another reason ya see them often
Grobec , is a big black bay goose (i.e bay heron) long neck and yes huge
beak , fat beak , cant fly a straight line , flys upwards on a slight angle
for a bit then desends , up an down at slight angles , not a very stable
flyer .... see em a lot around he bay not so often in the swamps .... more
of a marsh bird .... some ppl like them , too greasy for me .... another
gumbo bird ....
Title: TEAL OR POULE D'EAU GUMBO
Categories: Stews, Creole
Yield: 1 Servings
----------------------------ROUX---------------------------------
3 tb Shortening
1 lg Onion
2 tb Flour
2 Toes garlic
1 Bay leaf
1 pn Thyme
Parsley
Salt and pepper to taste
---------------------------GUMBO--------------------------------
2 Poules d'eau or teal; up to
-3
Shortening for sauteing
2 Dozen oysters with water
-(optional)
4 c Water; up to 6
File powder
Cooked rice
Add flour to shortening. Cook over low heat. Stir constantly, to avoid
scorching, until very brown. Add onions, garlic, bay leaf, thyme,
parsley, salt and pepper.
Skin poule d'eau or teal, wash, cut up, salt and pepper. Fry lightly
and set aside. Make basic roux, add poule d'eau or teal and water.
Simmer for about two hours or until tender. If using, add oysters and
oyster water (be sure and pick over them by hand for pearls and bits
of shell, and strain the water.) Add file individually when ready to
serve. Serve over rice.
Note: do not add file to a rapidly boiling pot or it will string (file
means thread). If you wish to season the entire pot, bring the
temperature down to a bare simmer, remove some liquid, let it cool
and stir in the file; then stir the mixture back into the pot. Do not
bring it to a rolling boil again.
cant get the email to work ....
Choupique
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ne...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message <6pl7f2$hic$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Hi There -
>
>I came across a couple of Cajun Christmas pieces that contain words that
>I do not understand and was hoping someone could help me with them.
>
>I put audio clips of the words at
>
>http://bioweb.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~schnitz/cajun.html
>
>Please email (jsch...@uiuc.edu) me with any help, as I can't access
>this newsgroup directly.
>
cwa (Choupique)
well said , i was just thinking how other peoples teachings lead them to
believe that the next is in error , a difference between the two in cultural
/ environmental circumstances does not make the next wrong , what is
accepted here as contemporary French may not be accepted in other parts of
the world ,
at times people here are told they are ignorant , when in reality it is the
other that is ignorant of our ways , the other at times forgets we are
different based on the amount of cultural mixing and we are therefore
correct with our language and wayz,
others "do" understand and accept we are "incorrect" with our language and
wayz based on their standards and fail to recognize our wayz as being valid
for who we are.
i have crossed quite a few people that will say "i am not an educated
person" because others have led them to "believe" our ways are wrong and
unacceptable , our ways are very different and it is these ways that make us
who we are , these same people have thriving business's , they still know
what it takes to grow their own vegetables , still know how to trap and fish
to feed their children (not dependent on society to feed them with
artificial beef / vegetables)and more so important have raised morally
strong children .... this to me is "very educated" ,
another small example of our language , Choupique is a type of fish ....
many people think it is French but its not .... its aboriginal .... i can
spell vegtables or i can spell vegetables to many of us it is the same ....
it is not wrong to drop and tie off the anchor at the back end of my boat ,
why walk up to the bow every time i want to move ? .... this way is not lazy
it is common sense .... try and explain that to a strict procedure seaman
and have him accept ....
and how about ....
"pirogue au ma`shan" is not a pirogue with a machine (inboard motor)
it is a "mudboat" ,
looks nothin like a pirogue ,
pirogue is not flat bottom ....
translate that to contemporary French anywhere else in the world ....
see whatcha get ....
Choupique
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-----Original Message-----
From: David J. Cheramie <djche...@linknet.net>
Newsgroups: alt.culture.cajun
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: Looking for the spelling and meaning of Cajun words
>Excusez-moi, mais ces expressions gros-bec, poule d'eau, pousse-café
>et dos-gris existent bel et bien en français contemporain. Le
>problème, c'est que ils N,existent pas dans ce langage appauvri qu'est
>le français standard ou le français de France. Si vous venez en
>Louisiane, vous allez voir que ces expressions sont tout-à-fait
>contemporaines.
>David Cheramie
>Directeur exécutif
>Conseil pour le développement du français en Louisiane.
>
>On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:40:55 +0200, pa...@club-internet.fr wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, the following are the answers you may be looking for:
>>>
>>> Cous-Cafe? = Pouce Café, This is a small cup of coffee. Literally it
means an
>>> inch of coffee.
>>>
>>> Poule-Deau = Poule d'eau, In Rev. Daigle's dictionary, he says it is a
Coot.
>>> However, it literally is a water hen. I am not sure exaclty what kind
of bird
>>> it is refering to.
>>
>>> 2 solutions possibles:
>>
>>soit, PAUSE CAFE ce qui signifie que, pendant le travail par exemple, vous
faites
>>un arrêt pour vous reposer et boire un café (ou autre chose
d'ailleurs)soit,
>>POUSSE CAFE, qui est l'expression habituelle pour signifier qu'après le
café on va
>>boire une alcool fort comme un Calvados ou un Armagnac ou un Cognac,
etc... Cet
>>alcool vient donc "pousser" dans l'estomac le café que l'on vient de
consommer.
>>
>>> Grobec = Gros bec, gros-bec, This is a large bird. Daigle's dictionary
lists
>>> it as a Night Heron. I have heard it is actually an Iris. Either way,
a
>>> Gros-bec was some good eating i understand (though, you can't kill them
>>> anymore). Gros bec literally means large beak.
>>
>>Je pense que c'est la bonne explication, mais cette expression n'existe
pas en
>>français contemporain.
>>
>>> Dos-gris = Dos-gris, This is a duck. I don't know the English
equivilent
>>> right off. But it refers to the grey back of the duck.
>>
>>Idem. Je pense qu'il s'agit là d'une bonne explication mais encore une
fois,
>>l'expression n'existe plus en français contemporain. On parle de "petits
gris"
>>pour évoquer une certaine race d'ecargots, notamment en Bourgogne
(Burgondy).
>>
>>> I don't know about Coup. Coup is a widely used word for various
expressions
>>> in French. (ie. Coup d'etate, coup d'oeil, coup de grâce, etc) Its
meaning
>>> is blow, lick, strike, hit, etc. I am sure it is just an expression to
give
>>> the idea that they were real tired.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
David J. Cheramie wrote in message <35bf206d....@news.linknet.net>...
>Excusez-moi, mais ces expressions gros-bec, poule d'eau, pousse-café
>et dos-gris existent bel et bien en français contemporain. Le
>problème, c'est que ils N,existent pas dans ce langage appauvri qu'est
>le français standard ou le français de France. Si vous venez en
>Louisiane, vous allez voir que ces expressions sont tout-à-fait
>contemporaines.
>David Cheramie
>Directeur exécutif
>Conseil pour le développement du français en Louisiane.
>
>On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:40:55 +0200, pa...@club-internet.fr wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, the following are the answers you may be looking for:
>>>
>>> Cous-Cafe? = Pouce Café, This is a small cup of coffee. Literally it
means an
>>> inch of coffee.
>>>
>>> Poule-Deau = Poule d'eau, In Rev. Daigle's dictionary, he says it is a
Coot.
>>> However, it literally is a water hen. I am not sure exaclty what kind
of bird
>>> it is refering to.
>>
>>> 2 solutions possibles:
>>
>>soit, PAUSE CAFE ce qui signifie que, pendant le travail par exemple, vous
faites
>>un arrêt pour vous reposer et boire un café (ou autre chose
d'ailleurs)soit,
>>POUSSE CAFE, qui est l'expression habituelle pour signifier qu'après le
café on va
>>boire une alcool fort comme un Calvados ou un Armagnac ou un Cognac,
etc... Cet
>>alcool vient donc "pousser" dans l'estomac le café que l'on vient de
consommer.
>>
>>> Grobec = Gros bec, gros-bec, This is a large bird. Daigle's dictionary
lists
>>> it as a Night Heron. I have heard it is actually an Iris. Either way,
a
>>> Gros-bec was some good eating i understand (though, you can't kill them
>>> anymore). Gros bec literally means large beak.
>>
>>Je pense que c'est la bonne explication, mais cette expression n'existe
pas en
>>français contemporain.
>>
>>> Dos-gris = Dos-gris, This is a duck. I don't know the English
equivilent
>>> right off. But it refers to the grey back of the duck.
>>
>>Idem. Je pense qu'il s'agit là d'une bonne explication mais encore une
fois,
>>l'expression n'existe plus en français contemporain. On parle de "petits
gris"
>>pour évoquer une certaine race d'ecargots, notamment en Bourgogne
(Burgondy).
cwa (Choupique)
<35BF377F...@club-internet.fr>...
>>David J. Cheramie a écrit:
>
>in the second place, because a
> language like French is first of all a living language which grows rich
each day by
>new
> words, with the favour of the sociocultural exchanges intern with the
country like
> international exchanges, including within Francophonie. From this point
of view,
>our
> Québécois friends, in an increasingly anglophone world, bring to us
much. French
> spoken about Louisiana, Quebec or besides is, in truth, a formidable
richness for
> Francophonie. Let us not tarnish it by vague linguistic quarrels.
>
you similar to Cajun ....
Cajun similar to French ....
you have good point of view ....
goes both wayz ....
Choupique
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> Very cordially.
>
M.Bernard
>In article <6pl7f2$hic$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> ne...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>Cous-Cafe? = Pouce Café, This is a small cup of coffee. Literally it means an
>inch of coffee.
I think it's rather Pousse Café.It's a strong alcohol (Brandy,
cognac...) drunk just after coffee and usually in the coffee cup
itself.
--
M.Bernard
mber...@wanadoo.fr
pa...@club-internet.fr
>
>
> Ok, the following are the answers you may be looking for:
>
> Cous-Cafe? = Pouce Café, This is a small cup of coffee. Literally it means an
> inch of coffee.
>
David J. Cheramie
et dos-gris existent bel et bien en français contemporain. Le
problème, c'est que ils N,existent pas dans ce langage appauvri qu'est
le français standard ou le français de France. Si vous venez en
Louisiane, vous allez voir que ces expressions sont tout-à-fait
contemporaines.
David Cheramie
Directeur exécutif
Conseil pour le développement du français en Louisiane.
On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:40:55 +0200, pa...@club-internet.fr wrote:
pa...@club-internet.fr
David J. Cheramie a écrit:
> Excusez-moi, mais ces expressions gros-bec, poule d'eau, pousse-café
> et dos-gris existent bel et bien en français contemporain. Le
> problème, c'est que ils N,existent pas dans ce langage appauvri qu'est
> le français standard ou le français de France. Si vous venez en
> Louisiane, vous allez voir que ces expressions sont tout-à-fait
> contemporaines.
> David Cheramie
> Directeur exécutif
> Conseil pour le développement du français en Louisiane.
>
Cher Ami,
Je n'ai jamais dit le contraire. En revanche, j'ai simplement voulu signifier que le
français parlé par les francophones de Louisiane a, de toute évidence, conservé depuis
des lustres des expressions qui, ici en France, soit sont tombées en désuétude, soit
ont totalement disparu du vocabulaire courant sauf dans quelques provinces très
précises d'où étaient certainement issus bon nombre des ancêtres des Cajuns (Poitou,
Normandie, Picardie, etc). N'oubliez pas que, au XVIIème siècle, il n'y avait pas un
français standard (hormis celui des actes administratifs depuis l'Edit de
Villers-Cotterêt) mais des français parlés ici où là avec leurs différences, sans même
évoquer les autres langues utilisées alors dans le royaume de France comme le breton,
le basque, l'occitan ou le flammand.
C'est donc le cas de "dos-gris" ou de "gros-bec". Ce n'est pas le cas de "pousse-café"
ou de "poule d'eau" qui font toujours partie du langage courant en France.
Par ailleurs, ne parlez pas de "langage appauvri" à propos du français de France. En
premier lieu parce que ce n'est pas très....diplomatique entre francophones (surtout au
vu de vos attributions), et en second lieu, parce qu'une langue comme le français est
avant toute chose une langue vivante qui s'enrichit chaque jour de mots nouveaux, à la
faveur des échanges socio-culturels internes au pays comme des échanges internationaux,
y compris au sein de la Francophonie. De ce point de vue, nos amis Québécois, dans un
monde de plus en plus anglophone, nous apportent beaucoup.
Les français parlés de Louisiane, du Québec ou d'ailleurs sont, en vérité, une
formidable richesse pour la Francophonie. Ne la ternissons pas par de vagues querelles
linguistiques.
Très cordialement.
In english (Altavista translation)
Dear Friend,
I never said the opposite. On the other hand, I have simply want mean that
the French speak by the French-speaking person of Louisiana have, obviously,
preserve since some gloss of expression which, here in France, either be fall in
disuse,
either have completely disappear of usual vocabulary courant except in some
province
very precise from where be certainly resulting good number of ancestor of Cajuns
(Poitou, Normandy, Picardy, etc). Don't forget that, with the XVIIth century, it
there have not a French standard (except for the administrative acts since
the Edict of Villers-Cotterêt) but of French speak here where there with their
difference,
without same evoke the other language used then in the kingdom of France like the
Breton, the Basque, the occitan or the flammish. It is thus the case of " back-gray
" or "
grosbec ". It is not the case of " pousse café " or " poule d'eau" which always
form part of
the language running to France.
In addition, do not speak about " language impoverished " concerning French of
France.
Initially because it is not very... diplomatique between French-speaking people
(especially within sight of your attributions), and in the second place, because a
language like French is first of all a living language which grows rich each day by
new
words, with the favour of the sociocultural exchanges intern with the country like
international exchanges, including within Francophonie. From this point of view,
our
Québécois friends, in an increasingly anglophone world, bring to us much. French
spoken about Louisiana, Quebec or besides is, in truth, a formidable richness for
Francophonie. Let us not tarnish it by vague linguistic quarrels.
Very cordially.
David J. Cheramie
linguistiques en disant que certains mots n'existent pas en "français
contemporain". Et j'ai qualifié ce français de France d'appauvri
justement à cause de cette attitude qui ne tient pas compte des autres
parlers français dans le monde. Quant à votre analyse historique de la
"conservation de la langue depuis des lustres", vous admettez très
clairement que la langue française en France a justement conservé ces
expressions. La dernière fois que j'ai regardé la carte, le Poitou
faisait toujours partie de la République Française. Alors la questions
se pose d'elle-même. Qu'est-ce que vous entendez par le "français
contemporain"?
Ti...@my-dejanews.com
mber...@wanadoo.fr (M.Bernard) wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 22:23:45 GMT, tah...@sprynet.com wrote:
>
> >In article <6pl7f2$hic$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> > ne...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
an
> >inch of coffee.
>
> cognac...) drunk just after coffee and usually in the coffee cup
In this case, i'm pretty sure it's Pouce Café. Pousse Café to my knowledge
is not a popular drink in South Louisiana. When I asked this question to a
person that Cajun French is his first language (prior to grade school) he
quickly answered Pouce Café...meaning a small cup of café. Pousse Café might
be a popular drink down here, but i never heard of it.
Tim Huval
Lafayette, La
> itself.
> --
> M.Bernard
> mber...@wanadoo.fr
Bob McBride
Orleans in the 40's. It was made with about 7 different types of rum with
different specific gravities so that it produced a layered drink in a small tall
glass. I don't recall that any coffee was used in it at all.
Bob McBride
Alice Bradshaw
cup o'coffee : ) did he ask for so little cause he was on a boat all
the time and didn't have time for a full cup...or was it was Louisians
coffee, and I know with sugar, thats the way its done.....just
wondering,me
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Paul L. Landry
cwa (Choupique) wrote:
> Poules d'eau = lil black duck , very little meat , a gumbo duck , has a huge
> gizzard thou , gizzard is maybe 4 times the size of a chickens , you will
> see them often aside the road in small ponds , swim with head constantly
> bobbing forward and backwards ,
> short fat bodies , population is fairly high cuz little ppl fool with em ,
> which is another reason ya see them often
Are you ever wrong. A Poules d'eau (water chicken) is a fowl, but not a DUCK.
They are excellent in Gumbo.
>
>
> Grobec , is a big black bay goose (i.e bay heron) long neck and yes huge
> beak , fat beak , cant fly a straight line , flys upwards on a slight angle
> for a bit then desends , up an down at slight angles , not a very stable
> flyer .... see em a lot around he bay not so often in the swamps .... more
> of a marsh bird .... some ppl like them , too greasy for me .... another
> gumbo bird ....
>
Wrong again. It is not a heron, it is a Iris, and is so good to eat that they
became almost extent, and are now protected. Bet you never tasted one, greasy,
never.....
And as Bob McBride says below, that is a Pousse cafe, I never heard of an inch
of coffee, or the other explanations.
The only drink I can recall that was "Pousse cafe" was a bar drink popular in
New
Orleans in the 40's. It was made with about 7 different types of rum with
different specific gravities so that it produced a layered drink in a small tall
glass. I don't recall that any coffee was used in it at all.
Bob McBride
I suspected you were a wantabe cajun, now I know, this and the Viet Nam
reference did it.
Ti...@my-dejanews.com
pa...@club-internet.fr wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
> > Ok, the following are the answers you may be looking for:
> >
an
> > inch of coffee.
> >
Coot.
> > However, it literally is a water hen. I am not sure exaclty what kind of
bird
> > it is refering to.
>
> > 2 solutions possibles:
>
> soit, PAUSE CAFE ce qui signifie que, pendant le travail par exemple, vous
>faites un arrêt pour vous reposer et boire un café (ou autre chose
>d'ailleurs)soit,
> POUSSE CAFE, qui est l'expression habituelle pour signifier qu'après le café
on va
> boire une alcool fort comme un Calvados ou un Armagnac ou un Cognac, etc...
Cet
> alcool vient donc "pousser" dans l'estomac le café que l'on vient de
consommer.
I don't think Pause Café or Pousse Café is the answer the poster was looking
for. It was strictly Cajun French terms. Pouce Café is recognizable to a
Cajun French speaking person....I don't think Pousse or Pause Café is.
>
> > Grobec = Gros bec, gros-bec, This is a large bird. Daigle's dictionary
lists
> > it as a Night Heron. I have heard it is actually an Iris. Either way, a
> > Gros-bec was some good eating i understand (though, you can't kill them
> > anymore). Gros bec literally means large beak.
>
> Je pense que c'est la bonne explication, mais cette expression n'existe pas en
> français contemporain.
Yes, the originator of the post had the twelve days of christmas written with
"Cajun French" words. This brought about the post. I am sure you would not
see this word in a French Dictionary other than a dictionary with French
words from South Louisiana.
>
> > Dos-gris = Dos-gris, This is a duck. I don't know the English equivilent
> > right off. But it refers to the grey back of the duck.
>
> Idem. Je pense qu'il s'agit là d'une bonne explication mais encore une fois,
> l'expression n'existe plus en français contemporain. On parle de "petits gris"
> pour évoquer une certaine race d'ecargots, notamment en Bourgogne (Burgondy).
Same thing. This is a local term. Petits gris....grey snails. I am sure we
would eat that too.
Tim Huval
Lafayette, LA
>
> > I don't know about Coup. Coup is a widely used word for various expressions
> > in French. (ie. Coup d'etate, coup d'oeil, coup de grâce, etc) Its meaning
> > is blow, lick, strike, hit, etc. I am sure it is just an expression to give
> > the idea that they were real tired.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
>
>
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Martha or Charles M. Cook
> Hi There -
>
> I came across a couple of Cajun Christmas pieces that contain words
> that
> I do not understand and was hoping someone could help me with them.
>
> I put audio clips of the words at
>
> http://bioweb.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~schnitz/cajun.html
>
> Please email (jsch...@uiuc.edu) me with any help, as I can't access
> this newsgroup directly.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Schnitzer
>
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Now....this is more the sort of thing that should be in this
newsgroup. Sincere, honest, opinionated, helpful, and not much argument
for it's own sake. Charlie in Houma
David J. Cheramie
her memory and substantiated by several of her peers a Pousse-café is
a mixture of whiskey and coffee. Since pousse (from pousser, to push)
and pouce (a thumb or an inch) are homophones, there is confusion as
to the origine of the expression. I vote for Pousse-café because of
the French practice of drinking an alcoholic beverage after the
coffee. I suppose that being the practical Cajuns were are, we decided
not to waste time waiting to finish the cup of coffee and dumped the
whiskey directly in the java.
David Cheramie
chou...@my-dejanews.com
plla...@swbell.net wrote:
>
>
> cwa (Choupique) wrote:
>
> > Poules d'eau = lil black duck , very little meat , a gumbo duck , has a huge
> > gizzard thou , gizzard is maybe 4 times the size of a chickens , you will
> > see them often aside the road in small ponds , swim with head constantly
> > bobbing forward and backwards ,
> > short fat bodies , population is fairly high cuz little ppl fool with em ,
> > which is another reason ya see them often
>
> Are you ever wrong. A Poules d'eau (water chicken) is a fowl, but not a DUCK.
> They are excellent in Gumbo.
>
yes a water chicken , ..... to many of us its still a lil black duck ....
> >
> >
> > Grobec , is a big black bay goose (i.e bay heron) long neck and yes huge
> > beak , fat beak , cant fly a straight line , flys upwards on a slight angle
> > for a bit then desends , up an down at slight angles , not a very stable
> > flyer .... see em a lot around he bay not so often in the swamps .... more
> > of a marsh bird .... some ppl like them , too greasy for me .... another
> > gumbo bird ....
> >
>
> Wrong again. It is not a heron, it is a Iris, and is so good to eat that they
> became almost extent, and are now protected. Bet you never tasted one,
greasy,
> never.....
>
is it also called a swamp hen (grobec) ? , the lil green heron ,
i was thinkin of the "bay clautsh" (black heron lookin bird) , on the
discription above .... ,
> And as Bob McBride says below, that is a Pousse cafe, I never heard of an
inch
> of coffee, or the other explanations.
>
> The only drink I can recall that was "Pousse cafe" was a bar drink popular in
> New
> Orleans in the 40's. It was made with about 7 different types of rum with
> different specific gravities so that it produced a layered drink in a small
tall
>
> glass. I don't recall that any coffee was used in it at all.
>
> Bob McBride
>
> I suspected you were a wantabe cajun, now I know, this and the Viet Nam
> reference did it.
>
i yi yi , poor Bob Mc Bride .... can not accept we have relations in Viet Nam
.... tsk ... tsk .... tsk .... and that vietnamese are now part of us both
here and there ....
remember all those crew boats Breaux's bay craft put out , the ones we rode
waves from their wake on, the many that passed from loureville through new
ibeiria on their way out to the bay via , baldwin cut .... i dont remember
seeing you any where around on the bayou between breaux bridge or baldwin
which is basically our neighborhood , i dont recall seeing ya anywhere
around between charenton and gross tete on the levee either .... , maybe i am
wrong .... maybe you were one of those types that was too good to hang out
with us cuz "mommy" was afraid you would be contaminated with us lower forms
, and its probly a good thing too cuz i can imagine you with your attitude
going home welped like hell from cypress ball fights between boats ..... or
even worse yet the green pine cone wars , nothin like getting hit by a flyin
green pine cone as jo boats swang past one another. am sure you would have
recieved "more" than your share of hits .... heck if you were in my boat i
probly would have thrown them at ya in the front myself .... the Beav. seys
"sha te bet" to you remember you have relations everywhere and untill you
accept them you are no different than the people that ran many of us out of
Mik'maki / Acadia ....
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It's hard to say what the person was saying since Pouce and Pousse sound the
same. The thing for sure is that since your mom is in Golden Meadow and my
dad is from St. Marting Parish, i am sure it's a geographical thing. I asked
a few people over here that speak french and they told me a small cup of
coffee. You did the same in LaFourche Parish and got a different answer.
Tim Huval
Lafayette, LA
Dwight Shack
Nicholls and lives in Thibodaux?
David J. Cheramie wrote:
> OK, I just checked with my mother in Golden Meadow and according to
> her memory and substantiated by several of her peers a Pousse-café is
> a mixture of whiskey and coffee. Since pousse (from pousser, to push)
> and pouce (a thumb or an inch) are homophones, there is confusion as
> to the origine of the expression. I vote for Pousse-café because of
> the French practice of drinking an alcoholic beverage after the
> coffee. I suppose that being the practical Cajuns were are, we decided
> not to waste time waiting to finish the cup of coffee and dumped the
> whiskey directly in the java.
> David Cheramie
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and in English, at different times : )
He never spoke French at home, but sometimes little words like that for
me.
Dwight Shack
> I told you, "1 inch of coffee" is what My Daddy would ask for, in French
> and in English, at different times : )
And fill the rest with whiskey? And these were not demitasse cups either.
Hope that was before the days of Big Gulps.
Dwight Shack
legal disclaimer each time? ;-)
I guess if I could read it really fast it would sound like a radio automobile
ad.
Darrel Toepfer wrote:
> Cheramie in that part of the country is about like being a Fontenot in
> others... day is lotz of dem...
Or an Hebert in Houma. Or a Shackelford in Birmingham, AL. Or a Comeaux on
the newsgroups.
> Dwight Shack <tsh...@silver-bayou.com> wrote in article
> <35C1216C...@silver-bayou.com>...
> : Hey, you related to Daisy Cheramie, married to Mike Guidroz, works at
> : Nicholls and lives in Thibodaux?
> :
> : David J. Cheramie wrote:
> :
> : > OK, I just checked with my mother in Golden Meadow and according to
> : > her memory and substantiated by several of her peers a Pousse-café is
> : > a mixture of whiskey and coffee. Since pousse (from pousser, to push)
> : > and pouce (a thumb or an inch) are homophones, there is confusion as
> : > to the origine of the expression. I vote for Pousse-café because of
> : > the French practice of drinking an alcoholic beverage after the
> : > coffee. I suppose that being the practical Cajuns were are, we decided
> : > not to waste time waiting to finish the cup of coffee and dumped the
> : > whiskey directly in the java.
> : > David Cheramie
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cups!! me
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others... day is lotz of dem...
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: > Cheramie in that part of the country is about like being a Fontenot in
: > others... day is lotz of dem...
:
: Or an Hebert in Houma. Or a Shackelford in Birmingham, AL. Or a Comeaux on
: the newsgroups.
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: > Dwight Shack <tsh...@silver-bayou.com> wrote in article
Bob McBride
say on this subject.
Bob McBride
chou...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
Paul L. Landry
did. I am qualified. You can't name a place in Louisiana I haven't been, I
traveled that Beautiful State to the tune of 3,000 miles a month for 25 years. I
was the Safety Consultant for Breaux's Bay Craft for years along with 1,000's of
other places.
I am also qualified to speak on Viet Nam. I was there from September 1967 to
November 1968. I left the hearing in my right ear there. I don't have any mixed
kids there or here for that matter. All mine are PURE Cajun. Your insistance that
they are part of the Cajun Culture is a SLAP IN MY FACE, How Dare You!!!!!!!!
cwa (Choupique)
I never stated "you" had children in Viet Nam , thou i know Cajun men had
children born in that country , some of them brought home .... they can
accept them , but you cant , until you learn to do so .... your anger will
grow .... your anger will move .... "it" will eat your soul .... as
anger/hatred will do ....
What was that beautiful Brown Skinned lady's name down at Breaux's Bay Craft
, you know the daughter .....
good to meet you , my name is Joe Wade and you ? ,
perhaps you may have known Mr. Fred Comeaux with Pelican Aviation here in
New Ibeira , he married a pure Japanese woman , and his sons and daughters
look very much Japanese .... Pete Romero , my Father , Mr. Ed. La Salle ,
and many other men in this town fought in and WWII , most of them dead
today , and ya know what, i dont recall any of them saying to have Bobby or
Wayne Comeaux around (i.e French /Japanese Cajun) or to have these Comeaux
boys as part of us "Cajuns" was a slap in the face .... get rid of your
prejudices and you may have a chance at healing ....
Grow up Sir .....
Choupique
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you still carry a bit of horror no doubt ,
i would like to present to you .... all people are our relations .... this
is one of your brothers sending you a message with hopes you will start to
understand ....
There was once a Young Warrior, yet proven in Battle...He was
very ready for proving himself, he was always ready to go into battle
for anything...One Day, the young one was given the chance to go
into Battle with the other Proven Warriors...So he went with them on
a War Party...As he arrived closer to the area of battle, his stomach
became very light...He felt sick and scared and yet, he was
ready...When they arrived and attacked the Enemy, he killed many
for the Glory of it...After the Battle, he started to think what he had
done...
As he was thinking of all that he had killed, he could not set aside the
thoughts of the Familys of the Warriors he killed in the battle...This
worried him greatly...Many of the Older Warriors saw this and
talked untill the Eldest of them came up to him and asked, 'So your
Heart is saddned to the Killing of our Enemys?'...The young one
said, I wanted this so bad, to prove myself in Battle and yet I am
sorry for the Lives I have taken this Day...The Elder said, 'It is good
that you feel these feelings of sorrow...You are a Human Being and
this is the way in which we Become to know ourselves...The
Grandfathers have shown us the ways, but it is our Path that we must
follow.'...The young one said, But I didn't think it would be this way!
The elder Warrior said, your Heart is good...For to feel remorse for
what you have done this day, will make you a better Human Being
for the Future...Still, the Young Warrior was disturbed...The elder
waited for a while and the Young one spoke up...I have felt, that in
Battle, I would feel the goodness to what I felt my People wanted to
be done...Yet, I see, that not all Battles are not as they may seem...I
will have to think about this day and come to know what has
happened this day...The Elder Warrior said, It is good that you want
this...We will wait for your decision on today...Well, many other
Battles came and went for many years...Till one day, the Young
Warrior spoke up to all the other older and younger Warriors and
said,...It is good, that I have followed the Path that the Creator
and the Grandfathers have sent me on...But I have come to the conclusion,
that if I have to take more lives of other Human beings, then I
will Kill no more...No one spoke for some time...Then the Elder of the
Tribe said..
You have made your decision to what your path will be...This is
Good that you have desided this for yourself...No Warrior will think
any less of your decision..For the Decision has been yuors.....Does
anyone know who this Warrior Is?
There is a young boy that wanted to be a Warrior so bad, that he
Killed for the sake of Killing....Again, who is this Warrior?
The warrior Killed 65 the first week of Battle...After that, he didn't
count...That young Warrior was me in 1971, in Vietnam.
That Warrior is Me ........ Walking Wolf ........
Paul L. Landry wrote in message <35C26305...@swbell.net>...
t-shack
> "Hawaiian Cajuns" of the south pacific , I wonder how many of us Cajuns will
> go into the Soviet Union and bring family back home .... that is a very
> beautiful thought to me "Soviet Cajuns" ....
>
> they will not be and they are not "Wannabe Cajuns" they will be and they
> are "Cajun"
>
And this comes from the guy who wants to distance himself from his English
(white?) ancestry. In his own words:
"put what ever ya want except that i am partially English cuz i aint! or if i am
that part of me stays perty well hidden from the rest of me."
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cwa (Choupique)
yes this is what we are taught as cajuns that the "English" are at fault for
many of our perils ....
i wonder which part of me it is that is angered with the English aspect ,
the Irish , the Scottish , the German , the Spanish , the Aboriginal , the
African .... heck it may even be the English Angry with the Englishman in me
for being such a bastardized blood ....
and i do not mind saying , yes my English part is "very" silent and
"practically not acknowledged" cant ya tell by how informal i am .....
this does not mean that ma best friend of over 20 years , K. Munson is put
off , and it does not mean i would turn my back on him either , just cuz he
is as you state "White" ....
arent the Irish & Scotish "White" .... , maybe i have a problem with the
English part of me based on the "Nation of Eire" and what occured ,
and what business is it of yours anyhow ? , you have a problem with me not
fully accepting my English traits , if so .... tooooooo bad.....its my
life..........
grow up t-sha ....
Choupique
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cwa (Choupique)
very much respect him anyhow .....
(the anyhow part is sarcasim in case you havent figured that out)
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cwa (Choupique) wrote in message <35c28...@news.eatel.net>...
t-shack
> and what business is it of yours anyhow ? , you have a problem with me not
> fully accepting my English traits , if so .... tooooooo bad.....its my
> life..........
>
Just pointing up the inconsistencies in your "all inclusive" ideology you seem
to want to judge others with.
> grow up t-sha ....
Been there, done that.--
t-shack
rejection ......... unity (well, unity without the English).
Denial is such bliss.
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Darrel Toepfer
: The image attached is of General Douglas MacArthur , (center) , on the left
: is Staff Sgt. Alvin J. Vilcan, Chitimacha, La. on the right is Sgt. Byron L.
: Tsinajine, Navajo, Arizona ....
:
: The Navajo's provided interpretation for language encryption of radio
: transmissions during WWII , had it not been for their efforts and their
: giving there are very strong possibilities the U.S would not have been
: successful
Yes I read the story in their regard. You might also want to mention that
the code-breakers also did an excellent job in that we were able to
decode most all of the Japanese messages before/during the war too.
Course they are nameless sense they were not people of color such as
the ones mentioned.
: another, in 1968 (national geographic) states Kuwait had more western
: influence than their own nationalist , i wonder how many "Cajuns" went there
: and brought back family .... no different than the Anchorage or the Northern
: slopes of Alaska "Eskimo Cajuns" , no different than the Marshall Islands
: "Hawaiian Cajuns" of the south pacific , I wonder how many of us Cajuns will
: go into the Soviet Union and bring family back home .... that is a very
: beautiful thought to me "Soviet Cajuns" ....
Why are you continually fixated with illegitimate children?
: they will not be and they are not "Wannabe Cajuns" they will be and they
: are "Cajun"
duh
: p.s "does that thought/comment make me a communist ?"
I dunno, but it sure makes me wonder about you a kids though...
: Paul L. Landry wrote in message <35C26305...@swbell.net>...
: >Don't blame Bob for the comments on Viet Nam, he said nothing on the
: subject, I
: >did. I am qualified. You can't name a place in Louisiana I haven't been,
: I
: >traveled that Beautiful State to the tune of 3,000 miles a month for 25
: years. I
: >was the Safety Consultant for Breaux's Bay Craft for years along with
: 1,000's of
: >other places.
: >
: >I am also qualified to speak on Viet Nam. I was there from September 1967
: to
: >November 1968. I left the hearing in my right ear there. I don't have any
: mixed
: >kids there or here for that matter. All mine are PURE Cajun. Your
: insistance that
: >they are part of the Cajun Culture is a SLAP IN MY FACE, How Dare
: You!!!!!!!!
: >
: >chou...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
: >
: >> In article <35BFA287...@swbell.net>,
: >> plla...@swbell.net wrote:
Darrel Toepfer
: Sir,
:
: I never stated "you" had children in Viet Nam , thou i know Cajun men had
: children born in that country , some of them brought home .... they can
: accept them , but you cant , until you learn to do so .... your anger will
: grow .... your anger will move .... "it" will eat your soul .... as
: anger/hatred will do ....
Why do you dwell in things of the past? Why does the fact that there
are illegitimate "cajun-whatevers" in the world "eat" at "your soul" so that
you continually post about it? People such as myself don't fixate on the
fact that a man/woman may have slept with a woman/man out of wedlock
and concieved a child. Morally to me that would be wrong, those same
lack of morals will cause the offspring to more than likely be rejected by
both family's/races/nations. The Bible lists quite a few examples.
: What was that beautiful Brown Skinned lady's name down at Breaux's Bay Craft
: , you know the daughter .....
:
: good to meet you , my name is Joe Wade and you ? ,
: perhaps you may have known Mr. Fred Comeaux with Pelican Aviation here in
: New Ibeira , he married a pure Japanese woman , and his sons and daughters
: look very much Japanese .... Pete Romero , my Father , Mr. Ed. La Salle ,
: and many other men in this town fought in and WWII , most of them dead
: today , and ya know what, i dont recall any of them saying to have Bobby or
: Wayne Comeaux around (i.e French /Japanese Cajun) or to have these Comeaux
: boys as part of us "Cajuns" was a slap in the face .... get rid of your
: prejudices and you may have a chance at healing ....
I'm a pure German, does that make me a nazi? I married a "cajun" worman,
does that make all of my children nazi-coonasses? My dad jokes that
we are all cajun-kraut's. When children are conceived after the right of
marraige most people except them. Maybe you should start trying to live for
the future and not the past so that "you may have a chance of healing."
: Grow up Sir .....
Get a life.
Martha or Charles M. Cook
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cwa (Choupique)
would you be implying that Choupique is a "racist" towards "White" or
"English" people ?
or are you saying Choupique is a racist towards "White" and "English" people
?
or are you saying i want to distance myself from "White" people ?
or are you saying i want to distance myself from "English" people ?
how bout you just say what you mean ? , i dont quite understand what you
are saying or mean ....
is it about me and my self or about me towards other people ? or what ?
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t-shack wrote in message <35C27A9E...@NOSPAMsilver-bayou.com>...
>cwa (Choupique) wrote:
>
>> "Hawaiian Cajuns" of the south pacific , I wonder how many of us Cajuns
will
>> go into the Soviet Union and bring family back home .... that is a very
>> beautiful thought to me "Soviet Cajuns" ....
>>
>> they will not be and they are not "Wannabe Cajuns" they will be and
they
>> are "Cajun"
>>
>
>And this comes from the guy who wants to distance himself from his English
>(white?) ancestry. In his own words:
>
>"put what ever ya want except that i am partially English cuz i aint! or if
i am
>that part of me stays perty well hidden from the rest of me."
t-shack
nazis.
t-shack
Martha or Charles M. Cook wrote:
> Darrel Toepfer wrote:
>
> CONGRATS!!!! Turned an info exchange into a chat session. Charlie
Well, that does tend to happen when threads go on for a while. They
diverge. Not all will be linked to the one you cited.
cwa (Choupique)
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t-shack wrote in message <35C2C4D6...@silver-bayou.com>...
chou...@my-dejanews.com
i was speaking of the U.S utilizing the Navajo language , a language which no
other culture on Earth could understand which secured transmissions for our
information.... please go back and re read the info you state you read and see
if "you" neglected to acknowledge that or if it is not there ,
i never said anything about illegitimate children , where do you come off
asking such a question .... are you implying i have a fixation with children
based on your past manerism i would not doubt this is the case
grow up ,,,, and stop trying to seek sooo much conflict
Choupique
In article <01bdbd02$04c44dc0$fa56...@8233.DIRECPC.COM>,
"Darrel Toepfer" <toe...@usa.dot.net> wrote:
> cwa (Choupique) c...@eatel.net wrote in article <35c27...@news.eatel.net>...
> : The image attached is of General Douglas MacArthur , (center) , on the left
> : is Staff Sgt. Alvin J. Vilcan, Chitimacha, La. on the right is Sgt. Byron L.
> : Tsinajine, Navajo, Arizona ....
> :
> : The Navajo's provided interpretation for language encryption of radio
> : transmissions during WWII , had it not been for their efforts and their
> : giving there are very strong possibilities the U.S would not have been
> : successful
>
> Yes I read the story in their regard. You might also want to mention that
> the code-breakers also did an excellent job in that we were able to
> decode most all of the Japanese messages before/during the war too.
> Course they are nameless sense they were not people of color such as
> the ones mentioned.
>
> : another, in 1968 (national geographic) states Kuwait had more western
> : influence than their own nationalist , i wonder how many "Cajuns" went there
> : and brought back family .... no different than the Anchorage or the Northern
> : slopes of Alaska "Eskimo Cajuns" , no different than the Marshall Islands
> : "Hawaiian Cajuns" of the south pacific , I wonder how many of us Cajuns will
> : go into the Soviet Union and bring family back home .... that is a very
> : beautiful thought to me "Soviet Cajuns" ....
>
> Why are you continually fixated with illegitimate children?
>
> : they will not be and they are not "Wannabe Cajuns" they will be and they
> : are "Cajun"
>
> duh
>
> : p.s "does that thought/comment make me a communist ?"
>
> I dunno, but it sure makes me wonder about you a kids though...
>
> : Paul L. Landry wrote in message <35C26305...@swbell.net>...
> : >Don't blame Bob for the comments on Viet Nam, he said nothing on the
> : subject, I
> : >did. I am qualified. You can't name a place in Louisiana I haven't been,
> : I
> : >traveled that Beautiful State to the tune of 3,000 miles a month for 25
> : years. I
> : >was the Safety Consultant for Breaux's Bay Craft for years along with
> : 1,000's of
> : >other places.
> : >
> : >I am also qualified to speak on Viet Nam. I was there from September 1967
> : to
> : >November 1968. I left the hearing in my right ear there. I don't have any
> : mixed
> : >kids there or here for that matter. All mine are PURE Cajun. Your
> : insistance that
> : >they are part of the Cajun Culture is a SLAP IN MY FACE, How Dare
> : You!!!!!!!!
> : >
> : >chou...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> : >
> : >> In article <35BFA287...@swbell.net>,
> : >> plla...@swbell.net wrote:
>
> --
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make up your mind , a deniing racist , a white racist or a racist nazi , a
English racist ...... geesh your full of flavor today .... keep giving "it" am
sure the world can use more ..... talk about wannabe , your position may be
more like forgoten how to be ....
Choupique
In article <35C2888D...@silver-bayou.com>,
t-shack <tshack...@silver-bayou.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I guess the subject line says it all: Looking for acceptance / not
> rejection ......... unity (well, unity without the English).
>
> Denial is such bliss.
>
> t-shack wrote:
>
> > cwa (Choupique) wrote:
> >
> > > and what business is it of yours anyhow ? , you have a problem with me not
> > > fully accepting my English traits , if so .... tooooooo bad.....its my
> > > life..........
> > >
> >
> > Just pointing up the inconsistencies in your "all inclusive" ideology you
seem
> > to want to judge others with.
> >
> > > grow up t-sha ....
> >
> > Been there, done that.--
> > t-Shack
> >
> > Remove the NOSPAM from the return address to contact me.
>
> --
> t-Shack
>
> Remove the NOSPAM from the return address to contact me.
>
>
Darrel Toepfer
<6pv1o9$n0h$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
: mr. tofer
:
: i was speaking of the U.S utilizing the Navajo language , a language which no
: other culture on Earth could understand which secured transmissions for our
: information.... please go back and re read the info you state you read and
see
: if "you" neglected to acknowledge that or if it is not there ,
Where did I neglect that? I said I read the article. I simply added to it that
there were others involved in communications that also saved thousands of
lives, the code-breakers. I guess you only see what you want to see.
: i never said anything about illegitimate children , where do you come off
: asking such a question .... are you implying i have a fixation with children
: based on your past manerism i would not doubt this is the case
Most all of your posts have been in regards to illegitimate children of cajuns.
Having memory problems again? Has nothing to do with my "past manerism"
but all to do with yours...
: grow up ,,,, and stop trying to seek sooo much conflict
Puhleez, get real... You asked for discussion and I give you one.
Next thing you do is try to say I "seek sooo much conflict". I beg
to differ, your the one who started the conversation in regards to
the forgotten children of cajuns. Guess your duality doesn't allow
you to see that... If you can't take the heat, then make like a tree
and leave...
: In article <01bdbd02$04c44dc0$fa56...@8233.DIRECPC.COM>,
: >
:
:
: --
:
Paul L. Landry
cwa (Choupique) wrote:
> Sir,
>
> I never stated "you" had children in Viet Nam , thou i know Cajun men had
> children born in that country , some of them brought home .... they can
> accept them , but you cant , until you learn to do so .... your anger will
> grow .... your anger will move .... "it" will eat your soul .... as
> anger/hatred will do ....
>
You say I can't accept them, How foolish on your part. I say they are not part
of Cajun Culture as I know it and have lived it for 56 years. They may have
contributed a part of their culture to the immediate family they are involved
with, but not to the Culture as a Whole.
What do you know of my anger, nothing..........
> What was that beautiful Brown Skinned lady's name down at Breaux's Bay Craft
> , you know the daughter .....
>
> good to meet you , my name is Joe Wade and you ? ,
> perhaps you may have known Mr. Fred Comeaux with Pelican Aviation here in
> New Ibeira , he married a pure Japanese woman , and his sons and daughters
> look very much Japanese .... Pete Romero , my Father , Mr. Ed. La Salle ,
> and many other men in this town fought in and WWII , most of them dead
> today , and ya know what, i dont recall any of them saying to have Bobby or
> Wayne Comeaux around (i.e French /Japanese Cajun) or to have these Comeaux
> boys as part of us "Cajuns" was a slap in the face .... get rid of your
> prejudices and you may have a chance at healing ....
>
> Grow up Sir .....
You say Grow Up................. I am 56 years old. I quite high school in the
10th grade and joined the US Navy, in which I spent 10 years. I used this time
to obtain a High School education, and A Associates Degree in Industrial Tech.
along with learning a trade that has supported me for 56 years. And you say
Grow Up.
I went through the Cuban Blockade, The Lebanon Crisis, The 7 day war, Viet Nam,
and traveled around the world 3 times. And you say Grow Up. I was even awarded
a Metal for Superior Leadership in the face of Enemy fire. And you say Grow Up.
I served as National Commander of the most prestigious veterans organization in
the world, traveled to 47 of the states in the USA, started a program that is
putting a American Flag in every 1st Graders Hand, and you say Grow Up.
I have been promoted all the way up to Vice President and Regional Manager of a
multi billion dollar company, and you say Grow Up.
I married a wonderful cajun woman 35 years ago, and we have 4 cajun children and
11 grand children, and you say grow up.
I have no anger for the people of View Nam, in fact have several as friends. My
anger is to people like you who don't know who they are are what the world is
all about. In the face of all the responses written to you how can you
continue.
You are the one that needs to Get a Life.
chou...@my-dejanews.com
is not acceptance of them or their Nation .... a slap in your face implys an
insult to "you" based on your prejudices and non acceptance ....
your comment "Slap in my face" says enough in itself ....
keep in mind the Vietnamese ppl experienced the same as the Acadians and
Cajuns, both in their homelands and here in Louisiana ....
Keep in mind the amount of "food" they put on our tables .... Keep in mind
they are still being "Exiled" even here in Louisiana .... Keep in mind many
of them married into Cajun Families / both Male & Female .... keep in mind
"today" they are in the same position as the Acadians 200+ years ago ....
let me see now , the Irish , Scottish , German , French , English , etc ....
are accepted as Cajuns , but these new comers Asian peoples , Arab peoples are
not considered Cajuns ..... sounds awful biased to me ....
along with the Asian , Arab , i hear within this news group African ,
Aboriginal people are also not considered "Cajun"
why is it some people only accept the "White Races" as being Cajun , and no
other races of Humanity can be included ?
if you can not accept them as "Cajun" , then aparently you have a problem with
acceptance ....
dont need to qualify yourself Sir ,such as I, I, I, I, as being an adult ....
its not necessary your comments of non acceptance shows that from all of your
accomplishments you have not learned "accepting" the next as a relation ....
perhaps you missed "Walking Wolf's" message to "you" ....
yes, others angers do arise with words .... " if the truth hurts live with
that hurt until you find a means to accept , but dont cast it out at everyone
else around , move on with your life , dont hide the truths .... anger comes
from hurt ....
dont remember the Daughters name do ya ..... after spending so much time at
Breauxs Bay Craft .... hmmmmm....
never met Mr. Fred Comeaux either I guess , maybe you just passed thru and did
not "listen"
by the way , I intorduced myself with my "given name" , yet still i dont have
a clue who you are .... when ya get back in the neighborhood ask around for
Shoo-pic
whoever you are that considers saying , Vietnamese are also Cajun is a slap in
your face .... has been away from the Swamps too long ....
Choupique
In article <35C3507F...@swbell.net>,
plla...@swbell.net wrote:
>
>
> cwa (Choupique) wrote:
>
> > Sir,
> >
> > I never stated "you" had children in Viet Nam , thou i know Cajun men had
> > children born in that country , some of them brought home .... they can
> > accept them , but you cant , until you learn to do so .... your anger will
> > grow .... your anger will move .... "it" will eat your soul .... as
> > anger/hatred will do ....
> >
>
> You say I can't accept them, How foolish on your part. I say they are not
part
> of Cajun Culture as I know it and have lived it for 56 years. They may have
> contributed a part of their culture to the immediate family they are involved
> with, but not to the Culture as a Whole.
>
> What do you know of my anger, nothing..........
>
> > What was that beautiful Brown Skinned lady's name down at Breaux's Bay Craft
> > , you know the daughter .....
> >
> > good to meet you , my name is Joe Wade and you ? ,
> > perhaps you may have known Mr. Fred Comeaux with Pelican Aviation here in
> > New Ibeira , he married a pure Japanese woman , and his sons and daughters
> > look very much Japanese .... Pete Romero , my Father , Mr. Ed. La Salle ,
> > and many other men in this town fought in and WWII , most of them dead
> > today , and ya know what, i dont recall any of them saying to have Bobby or
> > Wayne Comeaux around (i.e French /Japanese Cajun) or to have these Comeaux
> > boys as part of us "Cajuns" was a slap in the face .... get rid of your
> > prejudices and you may have a chance at healing ....
> >
> > Grow up Sir .....
>
chou...@my-dejanews.com
have a good day ....
Choupique
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t-shack
chou...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> again based on your past replys , Choupique has nothin more to say to you ....
>
> have a good day ....
>
How can the rest of us join such an illustrious group.
Of course you've had nothing to say as long as I remember, but you just keep saying
it.
t-shack
cwa (Choupique) wrote:
> >yes this is what we are taught as cajuns that the "English" are at fault
> for
> >many of our perils ....
Well, in the new world order, such teachings would have to cease, wouldn't they,
if you are really interested in tolerance towards all, in total inclusivity.
Darrel Toepfer
: again based on your past replys , Choupique has nothin more to say to you
...
Figures, call names, holler insults, throw stones and then run and hide...
Well I'm still here and I'm in it for the long haul... I take it like a man
and I stand out in the open, I don't hide behind the bushes nor sneak
around on my belly...
So again, since you serve no useful purpose, make like a tree and leave...
: In article <01bdbd60$40fbdd40$fa56...@8233.DIRECPC.COM>,
--
Darrel Toepfer
<35C3ABA9...@silver-bayou.com>...
: > chou...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
:
: > again based on your past replys , Choupique has nothin more to say to you
...
: > have a good day ....
: How can the rest of us join such an illustrious group.
: Of course you've had nothing to say as long as I remember, but you
: just keep saying it.
Simply speak the truth all the time, when you see the lies, call its bluff...
The sad part is the others here who just tolerate it day in and day out.
Darrel Toepfer
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: In article <35c0876b....@news.linknet.net>,
: djche...@linknet.net (David J. Cheramie) wrote:
: > OK, I just checked with my mother in Golden Meadow and according to
: > her memory and substantiated by several of her peers a Pousse-café is
: > a mixture of whiskey and coffee. Since pousse (from pousser, to push)
: > and pouce (a thumb or an inch) are homophones, there is confusion as
: > to the origine of the expression. I vote for Pousse-café because of
: > the French practice of drinking an alcoholic beverage after the
: > coffee. I suppose that being the practical Cajuns were are, we decided
: > not to waste time waiting to finish the cup of coffee and dumped the
: > whiskey directly in the java.
: > David Cheramie
:
: It's hard to say what the person was saying since Pouce and Pousse sound the
: same. The thing for sure is that since your mom is in Golden Meadow and my
: dad is from St. Marting Parish, i am sure it's a geographical thing. I asked
: a few people over here that speak french and they told me a small cup of
: coffee. You did the same in LaFourche Parish and got a different answer.
:
: Tim Huval
: Lafayette, LA
:
: >
:
cwa (Choupique)
Paul L. Landry wrote in message <35C26305...@swbell.net>...
>All mine are PURE Cajun. Your insistance that
>they are part of the Cajun Culture is a SLAP IN MY FACE, How Dare
You!!!!!!!!
I also state the African peoples are "Cajuns" , is this also considered a
"Slap in your Face" or would you consider it more along the lines of a "Stab
in your Back" ?
lets see now , Broussard , Williams , Bernard , Lejeune , LeBlanc , Comeaux
, Schexnayder , Hebert , Bodin , Wade , allo of these family names also
apply to the African peoples in s. La....
havent met a Black man with the name of Landry yet .... thou i am sure we
are there ....
go back an look at your high school year books ..... Sir ....
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Cledis Underwood
with himself.
Even Brian Comeaux hadn't posted in the last couple of days.
Ever since Choupique mentioned that the Comeaux's are Africians.
That will boost Brian's standing in Canadian.
Bubba
CHOUPIQUE WROTE:
> lets see now , Broussard , Williams , Bernard , Lejeune , LeBlanc , > Comeaux, Schexnayder , Hebert , Bodin , Wade , allo of these family
BRIAN COMEAUX
Larry Cullen a/k/a Bayou Bubba a/k/a Cledis Underwood,
Cher, on a beaucoup--booookooooo noirs qui portent fièrement le nom
COMEAUX, et puis, je suis fier de les avoir comme mes cousins et
cousines!
BGC
nationaliste acadien/acadian nationalist
http://www.cma-la99.com
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Cledis Underwood
about the Comeaux being of Africian decent.
BRIAN COMEAUX wrote:
>
> Cledis Underwood wrote:
> >
> > CHOUPIQUE has reduce this newsgroup to posting to himself, and agruing
> > with himself.
> >
> > Even Brian Comeaux hadn't posted in the last couple of days.
> > Ever since Choupique mentioned that the Comeaux's are Africians.
> >
> > That will boost Brian's standing in Canadian.
> >
> > Bubba
> >
> > CHOUPIQUE WROTE:
> > > lets see now , Broussard , Williams , Bernard , Lejeune , LeBlanc , > Comeaux, Schexnayder , Hebert , Bodin , Wade , allo of these family
> > > names also apply to the African peoples in s. La....
> > >
> > > havent met a Black man with the name of Landry yet .... thou i am sure > we are there .... go back an look at your high school year books .....
>
> Larry Cullen a/k/a Bayou Bubba a/k/a Cledis Underwood,
So what you point? If you pass as white, why not.
gww...@my-dejanews.com
bcom...@iamerica.net wrote:
> > CHOUPIQUE WROTE:
> > > lets see now , Broussard , Williams , Bernard , Lejeune , LeBlanc , >
Comeaux, Schexnayder , Hebert , Bodin , Wade , allo of these family
> > > names also apply to the African peoples in s. La....
> > >
> > > havent met a Black man with the name of Landry yet .... thou i am sure >
we are there .... go back an look at your high school year books .....
>
> Larry Cullen a/k/a Bayou Bubba a/k/a Cledis Underwood,
>
> Cher, on a beaucoup--booookooooo noirs qui portent fièrement le nom
> COMEAUX, et puis, je suis fier de les avoir comme mes cousins et
> cousines!
>
Slaves were forced to take the names of their owners. Perhaps the Landrys
were abolitionis
chou...@my-dejanews.com
ownership ,no doubt i have blood afrikan relations , its perty darn neat ....
and perhaps even families that have blood relaions were as you stated
abolitionis , the town of Jeanerette St.Mary Parish) it is full of Landrys ,
very high # of families , the area also has a very high population of mulotta
and aboriginal mix peoples .... some of the best ppl i have ever met ....
Choupique
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