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Oldest Bullrings in Each Country?

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Gerry Campos

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Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
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All Right enough is enough! Real question here, need all respondents, except
for the Anti's (which aint much, and they wouldn't know anyhow).
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In each bullfighting country, what is the oldest bullring?

Example:
Spain's oldest bullring is ?
France " " ?
Portugal?
Mexico?
etc....

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Luke

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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The oldest in Mexico (I think.....at least this is what I've been told) is
in Tlaxcala, the capitol of the state of Tlaxcala. It's really, really
neat. THat's also the city where the first catholic baptism took place in
Mexico (or so my host father told me).

Luke

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C. van der Eijk

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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The oldest "bullring" in France - as far as I know - is in Arles. The arena
there is said to be a few decades older than its twin in Nīmes. Its date: end
of the first century A.D. Both are oval-shaped
and of course originally not built as bullrings but as amfitheatres, to host a
wider spectrum of plays, fights and other activities.

Christiaan M. van der Eijk

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Oldest bullring in Holland is Buffa's butcher shop.


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Pierrick

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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The oldest place as a bullfight one (if it's true that Arles is the oldest
arena) is Bayonne.

Luz (chairman of parisian group of aficionados - Paris - France -

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Dave Asatrian

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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In article <7nts48$qfg$1...@nusku.cts.com>,
"Gerry Campos" <gca...@cts.com> wrote:

> In each bullfighting country, what is the oldest bullring?
>
> Example:
> Spain's oldest bullring is ?

Spain's oldest bullring is Plaza de Toros de Ronda as far as I remember.

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Lyn Sherwood

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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A fellow aficionado told me, recently, that the largest bullring in the
world is not La Plaza Mexico, but that in Valencia, Venezuela. Any
comments?

Lyn


Jim Cornfield

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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Gerry--I always like to participate
in these discussions of the burning
issues of our times> Here are my
contributions: "The very oldest
bullring in continuous use inthe
entire world is the small 1000-seat
arena in Cañadas de Obregón, located
in the present-day Mexican state of
Jalisco and now called the Plaza
Rodolfo Gaona. This oval plaza was
constructed of stone some 80 years
before La Maestranza first opened its
doors.”--this from Hugh Hosch,
member and contributor to the
monthly mag for LAdeLA (Oct. 98
Issue) Other item, and I con't
remember where I got this: "The
oldest, and still functioning, Plaza de
Toros in Spain is at
Campofrío, in the Provincia de
Huelva." Hope this helps...now, I'm
going to go out and get a life (just
kidding). Saludos--JC

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Tor Engebakken

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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"C. van der Eijk" <c.van.d...@direct.A2000.nl> wrote:

Rond is the oldest in Spain and I think it was build originally as a
roman theater?

>The oldest "bullring" in France - as far as I know - is in Arles. The arena
>there is said to be a few decades older than its twin in Nīmes. Its date: end
>of the first century A.D. Both are oval-shaped
>and of course originally not built as bullrings but as amfitheatres, to host a
>wider spectrum of plays, fights and other activities.
>
>Christiaan M. van der Eijk
>
>
>Luke wrote:
>
>> The oldest in Mexico (I think.....at least this is what I've been told) is
>> in Tlaxcala, the capitol of the state of Tlaxcala. It's really, really
>> neat. THat's also the city where the first catholic baptism took place in
>> Mexico (or so my host father told me).
>>
>> Luke
>>
>> Gerry Campos <gca...@cts.com> wrote in message
>> news:7nts48$qfg$1...@nusku.cts.com...
>> > All Right enough is enough! Real question here, need all respondents,
>> except
>> > for the Anti's (which aint much, and they wouldn't know anyhow).
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >

>> > In each bullfighting country, what is the oldest bullring?
>> >
>> > Example:
>> > Spain's oldest bullring is ?

Lyn Sherwood

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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I had understood that the oldest plaza de toros in the world was Plaza de
Acho, in Lima.

Lyn


C.

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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There is a plaza de toros in a Manchego village (whose name escapes me) near
Valdepeñas that some authors cite as Spain's oldest. It is rectangular and very
nice.

Pierrick wrote:

> The oldest place as a bullfight one (if it's true that Arles is the oldest
> arena) is Bayonne.
>
> Luz (chairman of parisian group of aficionados - Paris - France -
>
> www.denfert.com/alternative
>
> C. van der Eijk a écrit dans le message
> <37A2CB4C...@direct.A2000.nl>...

> >The oldest "bullring" in France - as far as I know - is in Arles. The arena

> >there is said to be a few decades older than its twin in Nîmes. Its date:

Manuel Calzada

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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I think you are referring to Chinchon's Plaza Mayor, which doubles as the
Town's Central Square when not holding corridas.

In any case what is meant by Bullring ? In reality most town squares have
doubled as 'bullrings' in thousands of towns ..

Madrid's Plaza Mayor has been the site of many corridas (not the oldest by
any stretch of the imagination).


C.

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Aug 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/3/99
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I was referring to the plaza in the hamlet of Las Virtudes, which while square and serving as a multi -use plaza is none the less a plaza de toros. I was reminded of this by author of the passage below.

A knowledge person wrote:

>The name of the village is Las Virtudes.
>The plaza dates, they say, from 1641.
>Two festejos taurinos, novilladas I believe, take place actualmente el
>25 de Abril y el 8 de Septiembre.
>It IS very nice.

Chinchon is much more well known, both for its graceful lines and a festival de lujo that takes place there each October. Also for its anis.

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