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ANUS409

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"The Ten Worst "Actors" of All Time"

1. Quentin Tarantino
2. Matthew Modine
3. Matthew Broderick
4. Adam Sandler
5. Ellen Barkin
6. Molly Ringwald
7. Ed Begley, Jr.
8. Steve Guttenberg
9. Tom Hanks/Tom Cruise (tie)
10. Chaz Palmintari

Honorable Mentions: Christian Slater, Winona Ryder, Ben Stiller, Jeanne
Garafolo, Bette Midler, Goldie Hawn, Jonathan Silverman, Andrew McCarthy,
Rick Moranis, Ryan O'Neal, Wallace Shawn, Billy Crystal, Sandra Locke,
Ricki Lake, Pauly Shore, Mira Sorvino, Hugh Grant, Woopie Goldberg...

there are probably a ton more to add to the list. Feel free to send me
any that I left off...

Xiuhte...@worldnet.att.net

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On 2 Oct 1996 15:12:29 -0400,
anu...@aol.com (ANUS409)
asseverated the following adage, precept, epigram and/or apothegm:

:"The Ten Worst "Actors" of All Time"

Kris Kristofferson

:1. Quentin Tarantino

ana_pcook

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In article <52ueqt$e...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
anu...@aol.com (ANUS409) writes:

> "The Ten Worst "Actors" of All Time"
>

> 1. Quentin Tarantino
> 2. Matthew Modine
> 3. Matthew Broderick
> 4. Adam Sandler
> 5. Ellen Barkin
> 6. Molly Ringwald
> 7. Ed Begley, Jr.
> 8. Steve Guttenberg
> 9. Tom Hanks/Tom Cruise (tie)
> 10. Chaz Palmintari
>
> Honorable Mentions: Christian Slater, Winona Ryder, Ben Stiller, Jeanne
> Garafolo, Bette Midler, Goldie Hawn, Jonathan Silverman, Andrew McCarthy,
> Rick Moranis, Ryan O'Neal, Wallace Shawn, Billy Crystal, Sandra Locke,
> Ricki Lake, Pauly Shore, Mira Sorvino, Hugh Grant, Woopie Goldberg...
>
> there are probably a ton more to add to the list. Feel free to send me
> any that I left off...


Hey, how could you leave out WILLIAM SHATNER of GABRIEL BYRNE? These
guys are the pits!!!

co...@hkstar.com

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anu...@aol.com (ANUS409) wrote:

>"The Ten Worst "Actors" of All Time"

>1. Quentin Tarantino
>2. Matthew Modine
>3. Matthew Broderick
>4. Adam Sandler
>5. Ellen Barkin
>6. Molly Ringwald
>7. Ed Begley, Jr.
>8. Steve Guttenberg
>9. Tom Hanks/Tom Cruise (tie)
>10. Chaz Palmintari

>Honorable Mentions: Christian Slater, Winona Ryder, Ben Stiller, Jeanne
>Garafolo, Bette Midler, Goldie Hawn, Jonathan Silverman, Andrew McCarthy,
>Rick Moranis, Ryan O'Neal, Wallace Shawn, Billy Crystal, Sandra Locke,
>Ricki Lake, Pauly Shore, Mira Sorvino, Hugh Grant, Woopie Goldberg...

>there are probably a ton more to add to the list. Feel free to send me
>any that I left off...

Who are the best then?

Sam


Daniel Fredrick Etter

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> On 2 Oct 1996 15:12:29 -0400,
> :"The Ten Worst "Actors" of All Time"

> Kris Kristofferson

Nope. But only because he was in Sailor Who Fell From Grace with the Sea.

Dan


4885.6.009

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In article <52ueqt$e...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, anu...@aol.com (ANUS409) wrote:

>"The Ten Worst "Actors" of All Time"
>

>1. Quentin Tarantino

Absolutely.

(snip the rest. . .allot of "Huh?")

Ben Stiller. . . 'nuff said.

But what about the Lord God of Woodheads:

Keanu Reeves??

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kevin king

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kep...@hollywood.cinenet.net (4885.6.009) wrote:

> But what about the Lord God of Woodheads:

> Keanu Reeves??

Agreed, but check out Little Buddah. I was shocked at how good he
was, accent and all.


kevin


sha...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca

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I know people will diagree with me, but thought that Ricki Lake's
performance in Last Exit To Brooklyn wasn't that bad,(you know, good
enough to get her off of the 'Worst Actor' list, but not oscar mentionable).

Speaking of which, how come Ricki hasn't had John Waters on her show?
I'm would think that kind of trash would be just up his alley.

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Harvey Porter

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4885.6.009 wrote:
>
> In article <52ueqt$e...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, anu...@aol.com (ANUS409) wrote:
>
> >"The Ten Worst "Actors" of All Time"
> >
> >1. Quentin Tarantino
>
> Absolutely.
>
> (snip the rest. . .allot of "Huh?")
>
> Ben Stiller. . . 'nuff said.
>
> But what about the Lord God of Woodheads:
>
> Keanu Reeves??

BING! It was only a matter of time before someone mentioned his name on this thread.

Bryan Stewart

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Bruce Willis
Demi Moore
Mel Gibson
Keanu Reeves
Melaine Griffith
Christian Slater
Pauly Shore
Juliette Lewis
Goldie Hawn
Winona Ryder

Peter Ronaszeki

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anu...@aol.com (ANUS409) writes:

>"The Ten Worst "Actors" of All Time"

>1. Quentin Tarantino

Hey, he wasn't too bad in FROM DUSK TILL DAWN. And was absolutely perfect
in DESPERADO. No way should he be number one.

(snip)

>Honorable Mentions:
>Christian Slater

Nonsense. His performance in TRUE ROMANCE and recently BROKEN ARROW were
credible.

>Winona Ryder

See BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA.

>Rick Moranis

How can you say this? Do you think it is easy for someone to give the
hilarious performances he gave in GHOSTBUSTERS and SPACEBALLS? Perhaps
you just don't like his style.


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vicuna

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In article <52ueqt$e...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, anu...@aol.com says...

>
>>"The Ten Worst "Actors" of All Time"
>>
>>1. Quentin Tarantino
>>2. Matthew Modine
>>3. Matthew Broderick
>>4. Adam Sandler
>>5. Ellen Barkin
>>6. Molly Ringwald
>>7. Ed Begley, Jr.
>>8. Steve Guttenberg
>>9. Tom Hanks/Tom Cruise (tie)
>>10. Chaz Palmintari
>>
>>Honorable Mentions: Christian Slater, Winona Ryder, Ben Stiller, Jeanne
>>Garafolo, Bette Midler, Goldie Hawn, Jonathan Silverman, Andrew McCarthy,
>>Rick Moranis, Ryan O'Neal, Wallace Shawn, Billy Crystal, Sandra Locke,
>>Ricki Lake, Pauly Shore, Mira Sorvino, Hugh Grant, Woopie Goldberg...
>>
>>there are probably a ton more to add to the list. Feel free to send me
>>any that I left off...

Nice list. Don't forget about Mickey Rourke, Christopher Lambert, Darryl Hannah, Madonna and the piece of wood
impersonator Whitney Houston.
Ellen Barkin was good in the great "Sea of Love". Wasn't she?
Question: How come so many american stars stink? Ok, Madonna, without a voice and any talent, has fucked and
sucked her way to the top, that's no secret, but what about the others?


PhiShow

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Andrew Dice Clay
C. Thomas Howell
Shannon Tweed
Alicia Silverstone
Charlie Sheen (gotten worse)

finally....

everyone in "They Still Call Me Bruce"

Dan Helmick

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So nobody here has watched any movies made before 1987?

--

Michael Brooke

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Dan Helmick (oob...@ripco.com) wrote:
: So nobody here has watched any movies made before 1987?


I might have seen a couple...

Michael

Shawn50273

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"We have a winner!"

Steven Segal


S.

Jim McLennan

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In article <DyzuD...@rci.ripco.com> oob...@ripco.com "Dan Helmick" writes:

> So nobody here has watched any movies made before 1987?

This is understandable: crap actors make crap movies, that in a decade
or so will be completely forgotten. The process of memory is a highly
selective one, we remember only the best from an era and discard the
rest. In another decade or two, it'll be "Jean-Claude WHO?"
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alan

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In article <53gr6j$o...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, shawn...@aol.com
(Shawn50273) wrote:

> "We have a winner!"
>
> Steven Segal
>
>

I agree

sha...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca

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: Steven Segal


I think that the way Seagal speaks(his monosyllabic delivery) he should
play a "mentally challenged" action hero. It would be great to see Seagal
as Rain Man with a gun.

"Raymond, those blackjack dealers said that we can't play
blackjack anymore"

"Definetly gotta bust some heads, definetly gotta bust some heads"

Michael Brooke

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sha...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

: : Steven Segal


: I think that the way Seagal speaks(his monosyllabic delivery) he should
: play a "mentally challenged" action hero. It would be great to see Seagal
: as Rain Man with a gun.


Or how about Jean-Claude Van Damme as a kickboxing zombie? A *real*
one, that is, not the ones he's been playing up to now!

Michael


Brian Kraft

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jmcl...@trashcity.org (Jim McLennan) wrote:

>In article <DyzuD...@rci.ripco.com> oob...@ripco.com "Dan Helmick" writes:

>> So nobody here has watched any movies made before 1987?

>This is understandable: crap actors make crap movies, that in a decade
>or so will be completely forgotten. The process of memory is a highly
>selective one, we remember only the best from an era and discard the
>rest. In another decade or two, it'll be "Jean-Claude WHO?"

A 20 year old infamy: Truman Capote actually attempted to play a
character who was not Truman Capote in "Murder by Death" (1976).
Easy to forgive, because of his screenwriter work for "Beat the Devil"
and "The Innocents".
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The Wheel

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> DanI must VIGOROUSLY refute the placement of Kris Kristofferson on a "bottom
10 list." Anyone here see "LONE STAR?" Sure he consistently plays a
low-key toned character, but is that being misinterpreted as "bad
acting?" Let's hop back on the Keanu Reeves bandwagon if we're going to
go there...

THE WHEEL

Daniel Fredrick Etter

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Me too. I said he shouldn't be on there simpy because of his appearance
in SWFFGWTS. I think you want the guy I was replying to. Unfortunately,
IU has not saw fit to fix our newsreader TIN (the only civilized way to
read news) so that the attribution displays correctly.
But no, I haven't seen Lonestar.

> THE WHEEL

Dan


Ataru Moroboshi

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Peter Ronaszeki wrote:

>
> anu...@aol.com (ANUS409) writes:
>
> >"The Ten Worst "Actors" of All Time"
>
> >1. Quentin Tarantino
>
> Hey, he wasn't too bad in FROM DUSK TILL DAWN. And was absolutely perfect
> in DESPERADO. No way should he be number one.

I don't think he was THAT bad in RD, either.

> >Winona Ryder
>
> See BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA.

Why? For an example of WHY she should be on this list?? (Sorry.. but I
REALLY don't like that movie.)

> >Rick Moranis
>
> How can you say this? Do you think it is easy for someone to give the
> hilarious performances he gave in GHOSTBUSTERS and SPACEBALLS? Perhaps
> you just don't like his style.

I don't care for him much.. but I don't think he's bad enough to be on
this list...

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Ataru Moroboshi

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alan wrote:

> > "We have a winner!"
> >
> > Steven Segal
> >
> >
> I agree

Gotta disagree.. compared to most action hams, especially Ah-nold and
Jean Claude, he isn't THAT bad. (Of course, that's not saying much...) I
still think his movies are piles of shit, though.

Dan Helmick

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Jim McLennan (jmcl...@trashcity.org) wrote:

: This is understandable: crap actors make crap movies, that in a decade


: or so will be completely forgotten. The process of memory is a highly
: selective one, we remember only the best from an era and discard the
: rest. In another decade or two, it'll be "Jean-Claude WHO?"

Or "President Van Damme" ;-)

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Lonnie Harris

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anu...@aol.com (ANUS409) wrote:

>"The Ten Worst "Actors" of All Time"

>1. Quentin Tarantino


>2. Matthew Modine
>3. Matthew Broderick
>4. Adam Sandler
>5. Ellen Barkin
>6. Molly Ringwald
>7. Ed Begley, Jr.
>8. Steve Guttenberg
>9. Tom Hanks/Tom Cruise (tie)
>10. Chaz Palmintari

>Honorable Mentions: Christian Slater, Winona Ryder, Ben Stiller, Jeanne
>Garafolo, Bette Midler, Goldie Hawn, Jonathan Silverman, Andrew McCarthy,
>Rick Moranis, Ryan O'Neal, Wallace Shawn, Billy Crystal, Sandra Locke,
>Ricki Lake, Pauly Shore, Mira Sorvino, Hugh Grant, Woopie Goldberg...

>there are probably a ton more to add to the list. Feel free to send me
>any that I left off...

Okay, here goes...
10. Steven Seagal
9. Every actor appearing in the film "Clerks" (love the movie, hate
the acting.)
8. Wesley Snipes
7. Melanie Griffith
6. Antonio Banderas
5. Jean-Claude Van Damme
4. Pauly Shore
3. Demi Moore
2. Bo Jackson (see "The Chamber." Then talk to me)
1. QUENTIN TARANTINO


Michael Brooke

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Dan Helmick (oob...@ripco.com) wrote:
: Jim McLennan (jmcl...@trashcity.org) wrote:


Fortunately, like Arnold Schwarzenegger before him, there's a rather
major hurdle to get over (quite apart from the fact that he'd be
so wooden in Presidential debates that he'd make Al Gore look like
Jim Carrey, unless of course he started kickboxing his opponent) - he
wasn't born in the US.

Michael


Jim McLennan

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In article <961012105...@everyman.demon.co.uk>
mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk "Michael Brooke" writes:

Ah, President SEAGAL then. Secretary of State Van Damme... ;-)

ABlue892

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Steven Segal is by far the worst "actor" of all time. Ironic that he's
one of the highest paid, isn't it? Those other action hero types at least
make an effort, bad as they are. You get the idea that they make a
marginal attempt to take direction, unlike Segal, who decided to jump
right into giving it. That made a lot of sense (anyone actually go to see
that film he directed, by the way?) I remember him hosting Saturday Night
Live once. It was physically painful seeing the cast trying to get this
Karate chopping stiff through the episode.

Someone made a good point about Clerks, by the way. Great movie, no
acting whatsoever.

Your Name

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vicuna wrote:
>
> In article <52ueqt$e...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, anu...@aol.com says...
> >
> >>"The Ten Worst "Actors" of All Time"
> >>
> >>1. Quentin Tarantino
> >>2. Matthew Modine
> >>3. Matthew Broderick
> >>4. Adam Sandler
> >>5. Ellen Barkin
> >>6. Molly Ringwald
> >>7. Ed Begley, Jr.
> >>8. Steve Guttenberg
> >>9. Tom Hanks/Tom Cruise (tie)
> >>10. Chaz Palmintari
> >>
> >>Honorable Mentions: Christian Slater, Winona Ryder, Ben Stiller, Jeanne
> >>Garafolo, Bette Midler, Goldie Hawn, Jonathan Silverman, Andrew McCarthy,
> >>Rick Moranis, Ryan O'Neal, Wallace Shawn, Billy Crystal, Sandra Locke,
> >>Ricki Lake, Pauly Shore, Mira Sorvino, Hugh Grant, Woopie Goldberg...
> >>
> >>there are probably a ton more to add to the list. Feel free to send me
> >>any that I left off...
>
> Nice list. Don't forget about Mickey Rourke, Christopher Lambert, Darryl Hannah, Madonna and the piece of wood
> impersonator Whitney Houston.
> Ellen Barkin was good in the great "Sea of Love". Wasn't she?
> Question: How come so many american stars stink? Ok, Madonna, without a voice and any talent, has fucked and
> sucked her way to the top, that's no secret, but what about the others?


Yes, but who are the top ten Best Actors?
Easy to come up with actors that suck.
Lets give your listing some sort of a balance.
BTW Martin Hewitt is the worst actor of all time. His career include
some of the most embarassing and bad films of all time.
Especially his role as the liberal father in in the worst general
release
movie of all time, Endless Love, starring Brooke Shield.

Best actor; Samuel L. Jackson

The Critic

Darklady

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> Jim McLennan (jmcl...@trashcity.org) wrote:
>
> : This is understandable: crap actors make crap movies, that in a decade
> : or so will be completely forgotten. The process of memory is a highly
> : selective one, we remember only the best from an era and discard the
> : rest. In another decade or two, it'll be "Jean-Claude WHO?"


Hey, I happen to have enjoyed Time Cop...and even if it ultimately
becomes a big budget B-movie...who cares? I like The Beginning of the End
with Peter Graves (long live Burt I. Gordon!) and will watch it more often
than I'll watch the 10 Commandments of Gone With the Wind. Crap movies can
be some of the most enjoyable movies...and the ones we remember the most
fondly.

--- Darklady

Justin McGill

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Anyone thing Edward Wood from "Glenn or Glenda" he is BAD!!!!!!! hehe

Thomas Holbrook

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> > Fortunately, like Arnold Schwarzenegger before him, there's a rather
> > major hurdle to get over (quite apart from the fact that he'd be
> > so wooden in Presidential debates that he'd make Al Gore look like
> > Jim Carrey, unless of course he started kickboxing his opponent) - he
> > wasn't born in the US.
>
> Ah, President SEAGAL then. Secretary of State Van Damme... ;-)

Hey man, Van Damme could whup Kissinger's ass any day! Okay, having just
typed that, maybe I need to be medicated.

Jonathan Hertzberg

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>BTW Martin Hewitt is the worst actor of all time. His career include
>some of the most embarassing and bad films of all time.
>Especially his role as the liberal father in in the worst general
>release
>movie of all time, Endless Love, starring Brooke Shield.

Actually Martin Hewitt played one half of the young couple in Endless Love
with Brooke Shields. You are correct. He has starred in the some of the
worst and most embarrassing crappola churned out.

Jon

Winston Smith

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In article <53tpn1$2s...@news.doit.wisc.edu>, Jonathan Hertzberg
<jahe...@students.wisc.edu> wrote:

Yeah, this guy went to high school with my former girlfriend and, I think,
dated her once or twice (as she told it). You can imagine all the crap I
had to hear about the Great Martin Hewitt when "Endless Love" came out. I
actually met him at a pizza place in Claremont, CA when "EL" was still in
the theaters. Seemed like a nice enough guy. Needless to say I later
talked his acting and the movie down relentselessly to my girlfriend and I
was delighted when his career fizzled and he wound up a "B" movie stiff.
God, was I petty!

Thomas Holbrook

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In article <53slgt$b...@franklin.icok.net>, mcg...@icok.net (Justin
McGill) wrote:

> Anyone thing Edward Wood from "Glenn or Glenda" he is BAD!!!!!!! hehe

Antbuddys fink sentence above woodchuck makes know sense?????WhatWhat

Bill Binkelman

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ROTFL

Bill B

Jonathan D. Williams

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Looking at your list I can see why you probably would suck as a critic!
Though some of your list is true, Tom Hanks, Mira Sorvino, Tom Cruise,
and Winona Ryder are not even close to be deserving on being on a list of
worst actors, especially when names such as Chris Farley and David Spade
are not included on your list. Christain Slater is also a good actor
along with Whoopie and Bette Midler. Apparnlty you have no cinematic
taste whatsoever. My vote for worst definatly goes to Pauly Shore or
Leslie Nielson. My vote for best goes to Robert DeNiro.

> BTW Martin Hewitt is the worst actor of all time. His career include
> some of the most embarassing and bad films of all time.
> Especially his role as the liberal father in in the worst general
> release
> movie of all time, Endless Love, starring Brooke Shield.
>

Hughes

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10 worst actors (and actresses) of all time:-

10 Christopher Lambert
9 Jean-Claude Van Damme
8 'Tippi' Hedren
7 Robert Cummings
6 Melanie Griffith
5 Marlene Dietrich
4 Henry Thomas (after ET)
3 Dennis Hopper
2 Steve Gutenberg
1 Keanu Reeves


Moloko

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thhu...@indigo.ie (Hughes) wrote:

>10 worst actors (and actresses) of all time:-

> 10 Christopher Lambert
I don't say he's the best but I think you can find some worse

actors than Lambert. For Instance, I thought he was quite good in
'Greystroke' and the first 'Highlander'.
> 9 Jean-Claude Van Damme
I can't argue with you on this one. Sometimes he makes me ashamed of
being Belgian...
> 8 'Tippi' Hedren
Allright, she's not great, but I think her role in 'the Birds' is
very watchable.
> 6 Melanie Griffith
I agree
> 5 Marlene Dietrich
You like her or you don't like her. For me, I like her.
> 3 Dennis Hopper
I think this is a bit over the line. Hopper has made some very bad
films but he has, on the other hand, given some excellent
performances. 'Blue Velvet' is one of them, his little role as the
journalist in 'Apocalypse Now' is very good and (I might get flamed
for this one) his performance in 'Speed' was watchable, indeed.
> 2 Steve Gutenberg
Have you seen 'Diner'. I still haven't seen it, but I have heard
that he's quite good....
> 1 Keanu Reeves
Maybe, although I liked his performance in 'Bram Stoker's Dracula'
and 'Speed'.

Just an opinion,


moloko


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Michael Brooke

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Moloko (fdh...@club.innet.be) wrote:
: thhu...@indigo.ie (Hughes) wrote:

: >10 worst actors (and actresses) of all time:-

: > 8 'Tippi' Hedren


: Allright, she's not great, but I think her role in 'the Birds' is
: very watchable.

To be fair to her, she was never an actress - she started out as a
model and only got the lead in 'The Birds' because Hitchcock fell
madly in lust with her (completely unrequited) and was determined to
make her a star. Hitchcock biographer Donald Spoto argues very
persuasively that the reason that 'Marnie' is so flawed is that
halfway through production Hitchcock made a major pass at her, was
rebuffed, and completely lost interest in both her and the film
(before this was revealed, numerous mostly French critics were falling
over each other to explain why the film was so technically poor by
Hitchcock standards!)

: > 3 Dennis Hopper


: I think this is a bit over the line. Hopper has made some very bad
: films but he has, on the other hand, given some excellent
: performances. 'Blue Velvet' is one of them, his little role as the
: journalist in 'Apocalypse Now' is very good and (I might get flamed
: for this one) his performance in 'Speed' was watchable, indeed.

Dennis Hopper's acting is a bit like Ken Russell's directing - the
talent is obvious, but usually misapplied. But his 'Blue Velvet'
performance alone should disqualify him from this list.

: > 1 Keanu Reeves


: Maybe, although I liked his performance in 'Bram Stoker's Dracula'
: and 'Speed'.


And there speaks someone who clearly isn't English! I don't know
whose English accent was worse in 'Dracula' - Winona Ryder's for
trying and failing or Keanu Reeves' for not trying at all (Tom Waits,
on the other hand, managed a perfect English accent without breaking
sweat). The girlfriend I saw the film with was American, and madly in
lust with Keanu Reeves, so while she was doing pelvic thrusts at
the screen I was covering my ears because his acting was so appalling.
But I do agree with you about 'Speed' -though that's a film whose
virtues lie in situation and technique rather than acting: pretty well
*anyone* could have played the lead, and it would still have worked.

Michael


Michael Brooke

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Oct 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/31/96
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Swing180 (swin...@aol.com) wrote:
: Keanu as Buddha was utterly disgusting. A total travesty and a cruel joke
: and a waste of Bertolucci's vision.


I don't know - I think Bertolucci's been doing a pretty good job of
wasting his *own* vision over the last twenty years or so...

Michael

Tim Tipton

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Nov 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/2/96
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Jill Clayburgh
Meg Ryan
Pauley Shore
Kevin Costner
Barbara Streisand
Kevin Kline
Mickey Rourke
Burt Reynolds
Leonard Nimoy
Goldie Hawn


Justin McGill

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Nov 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/2/96
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>Jill Clayburgh
>Meg Ryan Has her moments.. Unfortunately GUT werenching and cute.
>Pauley Shore see above.. and dumber than a wood post.
>Kevin Costner I'm sure he made a good movie.. uhhh, can't think of the title..
>Barbara Streisand
>Kevin Kline Seriously.. A Funny guy and a pretty good actor I disagree.
>Mickey Rourke Soft core porn film actor.
>Burt Reynolds Needs a better toupee
>Leonard Nimoy Well he had a good death scene in Star Trek II, but he can't sing
>Goldie Hawn she was funny.. Like 10 years ago.. Plus ? She married Snake Plissken
>

Aladdin Sane

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Nov 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/3/96
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Justin McGill wrote:
>
> >Jill Clayburgh
> >Meg Ryan Has her moments.. Unfortunately GUT werenching and cute.
> >Pauley Shore see above.. and dumber than a wood post. No way. Total waste of celluloid! Never had a funny idea, never will.

> >Kevin Costner I'm sure he made a good movie.. uhhh, can't think of the title.. Your thinking of his role in The Big Chill

> >Barbara Streisand
> >Kevin Kline Seriously.. A Funny guy and a pretty good actor I disagree. A very funny guy, esp. when he is trying to be serious.

> >Mickey Rourke Soft core porn film actor. Agree, such promise wasted.

> >Burt Reynolds Needs a better toupee Among a host of other needs.

> >Leonard Nimoy Well he had a good death scene in Star Trek II, but he can't sing

> >Goldie Hawn she was funny.. Like 10 years ago.. Plus ? She married Snake Plissken She has shown constant improvement from he Laughin days.
A. S.

Alex Gaal

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Nov 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/4/96
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Arnold x 10

Ruth Morgenthien

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Nov 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/4/96
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Hi! I totally agree your (and most everyone elses) feelings
about Kevin Kline who is on my favorite actors list.

Now, Leonard Nimoy:
Even though I am a star trek fan, i haven't seem him either on
the big screen as anything but spock, and I like the character.
I DO remember him in the new version of "Invasion of the Body
Snatchers" where I think he plays a doctor or maybe a shrink.
It was a bit part...couldn't tell whether he could act from that
short part.
just my own opinions.....
---ruth---
> > >Kevin Kline
> > NO !! Did you see 'A Fish Called Wanda'. His 'Otto' character was so
> > funny. I liked him in the 'Big Chill' as well. I'm sure you can find
> > some worse actors than him.

> > >Leonard Nimoy
> > The only film I ever saw with Nimoy and where he didn't play his Spock
> > character, was a film about the survivors of Auschwitz-Birkenau (the
> > title slips my mind at the moment). He tried to run a museum in this
> > town in the States and then he had to go to court and something like
> > that. Anyway, I liked him in the Star Trek movies but I'm not really
> > able to discuss his other acting performances...


> >
> > moloko
> >
> > Remember, the Force will be with you...
> > always
> > - Obi-Wan Kenobi -
>

> The Nimoy title was "Holocaust" --different-- from the 7 1/2 hr. film
> about a more immediate disaster of the holocaust. I saw it in school when
> I was in 6th grade and the waning Nimoy was nearly collapsing under the
> weight of the challenge of playing a REAL person as well as with old age.
> --Heroin Ninja
> hni...@juno.com

Ruth Morgenthien

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Nov 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/4/96
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Stak2 wrote:
>
> You can't say Kevin Kline is bad. Every thing he said in "A Fish Called
> Wanda" was great. His Otto is a psycho for the ages.
I cannot agree with you more! Kevin Kline is on my favorite
list of actors...he can be zany and funny like in "A Fish
Called Wanda", and he is also great as a dramatic actor,
as seen in that great movie, Grand Canyon. He was incredible
w/Meryl Streep in Sophies Choice...this is obiviously
a man with RANGE...and not too bad looking either..
I know he does Shakespeare in the Park in the summer time
which proves he can *PROBABLY* really act also on the stage...
(am I gushing?) I feel the guy is a genious. So maybe his
shakespreare suck, I LOVE him in every movie I ever saw him
in...either laughing hysterically or crying my eyes out...
just my own opinion...
---ruthless-----

PJK

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Nov 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/5/96
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In article <327DE5...@cornell.edu>,
on Mon, 04 Nov 1996 12:47:21 +0000,

I saw him do Hamlet in New York and as the Pirate King in the Pirates of
Penzance. He just doesn't seem to do movie roles that are on the order of
difficulty of his live performances. The only thing I can think of in which
he really acts, as opposed to fool around, is Sophie's Choice. It's too bad.

Pjk

Steve Barbe

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Nov 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/5/96
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Has everyone forgotten that Kevin Kline was in The Big Chill?


Tony Long

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Nov 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/6/96
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: Pjk
Well, if by "fool around" you mean doing comedy, he does it well,
and it's said comedy is some of the most difficult acting to do!

One of my all time favorites: "I Love You To Death"

tony


Michael Brooke

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Nov 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/6/96
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PJK (pet...@vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
: In article <327DE5...@cornell.edu>,
: on Mon, 04 Nov 1996 12:47:21 +0000,
: Ruth Morgenthien <Ruth> writes:
: >Stak2 wrote:
: >>
: >> You can't say Kevin Kline is bad. Every thing he said in "A Fish Called
: >> Wanda" was great. His Otto is a psycho for the ages.
: >I cannot agree with you more! Kevin Kline is on my favorite
: >list of actors...he can be zany and funny like in "A Fish
: >Called Wanda", and he is also great as a dramatic actor,
: >as seen in that great movie, Grand Canyon. He was incredible
: >w/Meryl Streep in Sophies Choice...this is obiviously
: >a man with RANGE...and not too bad looking either..
: >I know he does Shakespeare in the Park in the summer time
: >which proves he can *PROBABLY* really act also on the stage...
: >(am I gushing?) I feel the guy is a genious. So maybe his
: >shakespreare suck, I LOVE him in every movie I ever saw him
: >in...either laughing hysterically or crying my eyes out...
: >just my own opinion...
: >---ruthless-----
: >
: >

: I saw him do Hamlet in New York and as the Pirate King in the Pirates of
: Penzance. He just doesn't seem to do movie roles that are on the order of
: difficulty of his live performances. The only thing I can think of in which
: he really acts, as opposed to fool around, is Sophie's Choice. It's too bad.


Then again, look at the screen performances of the likes of Laurence
Olivier and John Gielgud - generally not a patch on their stage work
(though Gielgud is a revelation in the recent 'Shine'), and I doubt
anyone is going to call *them* "two of the ten worst actors of all
time".

When Richard Fleischer was making 'The Jazz Singer' with Olivier, he
asked him why he was wasting his time and talent appearing in it, and
Olivier said that it was purely for the money - for all the acclaim
his stage work brought him, it was barely enough to live on (for
similar reasons, distinguished writers were only too happy to churn
out Hollywood screenplays that they privately regarded as hackwork).

And that's still true today - I read the other day that Stephen Rea,
who could easily have earned millions for film roles after 'The Crying
Game' is currently only earning something like two hundred pounds a
week - or $300 - for starring in the new Harold Pinter play in London,
and I think that's before tax!

Michael

PJK

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Nov 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/6/96
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In article <55okrs$e...@news.vcd.hp.com>,
on 6 Nov 1996 00:07:24 GMT,
>: Pjk
> Well, if by "fool around" you mean doing comedy, he does it well,
>and it's said comedy is some of the most difficult acting to do!
>
> One of my all time favorites: "I Love You To Death"
>
> tony
>

No, I meant fool around like Robin Williams did on his TV show. Granted he
fools around well, but if you have ever seen what he is capable of, you wonder
why he wastes his time doing some of the things he does. Maybe he enjoys it
and if so more power to him, but if the Broadway version of Pirates of Pen-
zance had been filmed as it had been staged it would have lived forever. In-
stead we have that dreadful movie he and the others in the cast did that was
forgotten a week after it was released. Most of the movies I've seen KK in are
a waste of his talent.

Pjk

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