No more Star Wars for you!
poll...@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
your dreamin'! Lucas and others are sick of the series and aren't
ever going to make parts 1,2,3,7,8, or 9!!! Same with The Terminator.
James Cameron basically vowed never to make another Terminator movie
because the second one was such hell to make.
CHP
Jim Goldstein
>CHP
WRONG!
They are scheduling the release of the new movie on the 20th anniversary
of the release of Star Wars. So you can expect the first of three in 1996.
I believe Lucas may be filming them concurrently like Back to the future II &
III. Thats what I remember reading out of the L.A. Times not too long ago.
David Stucky
STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE!
Lucas just happens to be one of the few movie directors that
does not believe in cramming all the movies up your ass
at the same time.
of the next three movies is set to out in 1997.
Gerry Schiela
Don't forget it is Lucas that is responsible for everyone attempting
to anally infix movies on the consumer.
Check the track record. How many sequels can you recall before 1977?
After Star Wars the race was on no longer to make a good film, but to
make a film that could be sequelized or to sequelize any successful film.
I never understood what makes people canonize a director anyway, but
to canonize him for not doing what he himself is responsible for...
very odd.
Gerry
9348...@vax1.dcu.ie
Dracula movies - Bucketloads of Beverly Hillbillies/old Ma
Kettle etc movies - 5 Dagwood and Blondie movies
About 15 Bond movies up to that date - I can keep going!
Lucas DID NOT invent rampant sequelisation (?)
That credit goes to whoever first wrote an
article for the bible!!!?!!!
-Ezi
In article
<Cos8n...@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v073...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (Gerry Schiela) writes:
> In article <94114.163...@psuvm.psu.edu>, David Stucky <DMS...@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>> FACT: Lucas has always planed to make *9* movies since the success of
>> STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE!
>>
>> Lucas just happens to be one of the few movie directors that
>> does not believe in cramming all the movies up your ass
>> at the same time.
>>
>> of the next three movies is set to out in 1997.
>
> Don't forget it is Lucas that is responsible for everyone attempting
> to anally infix movies on the consumer.
>
> Check the track record. How many sequels can you recall before 1977?
> (Deleted)
> Gerry
>
Timothy J Lehnerer
>In article <94114.163...@psuvm.psu.edu>, David Stucky <DMS...@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>> FACT: Lucas has always planed to make *9* movies since the success of
>> STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE!
>>
>> Lucas just happens to be one of the few movie directors that
>> does not believe in cramming all the movies up your ass
>> at the same time.
>>
>> of the next three movies is set to out in 1997.
>Don't forget it is Lucas that is responsible for everyone attempting
>to anally infix movies on the consumer.
>Check the track record. How many sequels can you recall before 1977?
Well, there's 16 Godzilla movies, the James Bond series, the
Dracula/Mummy/Wolfman stuff, the 4-movie Creature from the Black
Lagoon series, the Abbot & Costello cycle, and the series of Poe
films done by Roger Corman in the sixties. That good enough?
>After Star Wars the race was on no longer to make a good film, but to
>make a film that could be sequelized or to sequelize any successful film.
I'll buy that, but you'll have to convince me that before 1977
Hollywood didn't have any concerns about making a profit first.
>I never understood what makes people canonize a director anyway, but
>to canonize him for not doing what he himself is responsible for...
>very odd.
I don't know what you mean by "canonize" either.
>Gerry
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David Thiel
>> Don't forget it is Lucas that is responsible for everyone attempting
>> to anally infix movies on the consumer.
>>
>> Check the track record. How many sequels can you recall before 1977?
>>
>> Gerry
Plenty. Check your movie history. Film series have been with us since
the early days of the medium. Sherlock Holmes, Charlie Chan, Dick Tracy,
Blondie, Maisie, Andy Hardy, Matt Helm, James Bond, Sinbad, the Universal
horror films (Frankenstein, Dracula, Wolfman, Creature from the Black
Lagoon, the Invisible Man, the Fly, etc.)--all had multiple sequels. There
are plenty of non-series sequels as well: "Ensign Pulver," "For a Few
Dollars More," "Son of Flubber," "The Four Musketeers" and "The Godfather,
Part II" spring to mind. Sequels didn't start with "The Empire Strikes
Back."
David Thiel / Traffic Manager / WILL-TV / University of Illinois / Urbana
Internet: d-t...@uiuc.edu
Disclaimer: My views do not reflect those of WILL-TV, PBS or Barney.
Michael G Ayoob
> Dracula movies - Bucketloads of Beverly Hillbillies/old Ma
> Kettle etc movies - 5 Dagwood and Blondie movies
> About 15 Bond movies up to that date - I can keep going!
> Lucas DID NOT invent rampant sequelisation (?)
> That credit goes to whoever first wrote an
> article for the bible!!!?!!!
>
> -Ezi
>>Plenty. Check your movie history. Film series have been with us since
>>the early days of the medium. Sherlock Holmes, Charlie Chan, Dick Tracy,
>>Blondie, Maisie, Andy Hardy, Matt Helm, James Bond, Sinbad, the Universal
>>horror films (Frankenstein, Dracula, Wolfman, Creature from the Black
>>Lagoon, the Invisible Man, the Fly, etc.)--all had multiple sequels. There
>>are plenty of non-series sequels as well: "Ensign Pulver," "For a Few
>>Dollars More," "Son of Flubber," "The Four Musketeers" and "The Godfather,
>>Part II" spring to mind. Sequels didn't start with "The Empire Strikes
>>Back."
...and how could we forget the "Just When You Thought It Was Safe..."-taglined
JAWS 2?
A friend and I were arguing about "Shaft" the other day. He was
making fun of it, saying that nobody went to see it. I had to correct
him and tell him that in fact it had to have been a success for it to
spawn two sequels. He said that everything has sequels. But, I had to
tell him, there was no video and cable market in the '70s. If a movie
had a sequel back then it meant that a lot of people actually turned up
in the theatres to see the original. A _huge_ reason behind rampant
sequelization today is indeed because of video and cable, in which
endless sequels can be churned out for a film that had mediocre box
office at best (prime example - the "Howling" series). You can't blame
that on Lucas, either.
Mike
NEIL SORENSON SECTION 3
yeah right... as if we don't hear the dollar sign knocking on the
front door... besides, just because Lucas or Cameron don't make the
sequels doesn't mean that someone else won't... Cameron didn't
make the original ALIEN or TERMINATOR anyway....
Neil
Jim Goldstein
>Neil
Correction Neil.....Cameron did do the original Terminator, but you are
correct on Alien. Sorry, but I had to let it be known.
Jim
P.S. You can always tell because Cameron uses the same actors in his films.
Ex. Vasquez in Aliens = The Foster Mother in T2
Ex2. The punk in Terminator in the beginning = "Put her in charge"Guy
in Aliens.
Plus some other obvious ones.
Rob Moore
: yeah right... as if we don't hear the dollar sign knocking on the
: front door... besides, just because Lucas or Cameron don't make the
: sequels doesn't mean that someone else won't... Cameron didn't
: make the original ALIEN or TERMINATOR anyway....
Boy, there sure are some idiots in this newsgroup-and most of them have
posted on this thread. Cameron Directed Terminator. He did not direct
Alien. Get a Clue.
Giosi Farace
: v073...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (Gerry Schiela) writes:
: >In article <94114.163...@psuvm.psu.edu>, David Stucky <DMS...@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
: >> FACT: Lucas has always planed to make *9* movies since the success of
: >> STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE!
: >>
: >> Lucas just happens to be one of the few movie directors that
: >> does not believe in cramming all the movies up your ass
: >> at the same time.
: >>
: >> of the next three movies is set to out in 1997.
: >Don't forget it is Lucas that is responsible for everyone attempting
: >to anally infix movies on the consumer.
: >Check the track record. How many sequels can you recall before 1977?
: Well, there's 16 Godzilla movies, the James Bond series, the
: Dracula/Mummy/Wolfman stuff, the 4-movie Creature from the Black
: Lagoon series, the Abbot & Costello cycle, and the series of Poe
: films done by Roger Corman in the sixties. That good enough?
: >After Star Wars the race was on no longer to make a good film, but to
: >make a film that could be sequelized or to sequelize any successful film.
: I'll buy that, but you'll have to convince me that before 1977
: Hollywood didn't have any concerns about making a profit first.
: >I never understood what makes people canonize a director anyway, but
: >to canonize him for not doing what he himself is responsible for...
: >very odd.
: I don't know what you mean by "canonize" either.
If you mean why do people admire directors then the answer is simple. A
director is responsible for tranposing the film from a script into a moving
image. He is responsible for the entire look and feel (although the script
writer is also responsible). If the director is bad then the film will
invariably also be bad even if the script is actually reasonable. Bad directors
ruin a film just as much as bad acting. Therefore good directing should be
encouraged at all costs.
Also remember in the case of Star Wars the actors were largely unknowns and the studio felt that the film was going to bomb and so the success must in part
be down to George Lucas.
Joe
No .sig cos I can't think of one so there ....
Chris A. Hall
Right. And I believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and Liberal Republicans.
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